So Who Are We Podcasting About Next?

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to some podcast, an in-depth look into the career and filmography of someone.

[00:00:07] I'm Mike Smith. Joining me as always is my friend, co-host and fellow person who also

[00:00:13] likes whatever this podcast is about.

[00:00:15] Mike Decretia

[00:00:16] How you doing today Mike?

[00:00:18] Today's quite an exciting time here at Blank, a Complete Works podcast.

[00:00:22] Yeah, it's a new chapter in our lives really. Here's what's going on today. After four

[00:00:27] years Mike and I recently completed our podcast about Nicholas Cage. Man, I feel like I'm having

[00:00:34] Cage withdrawals a little bit.

[00:00:36] Yeah, especially with the announcement of National Treasure III.

[00:00:41] Yeah, I mean it's not announced I guess but it's supposedly being written by somebody.

[00:00:47] That's better progress than we've had in ten years for National Treasure III. It's

[00:00:51] been like two months since I watched a movie of Nicholas Cage and it feels weird. You

[00:00:56] know what I mean? I feel like I should be seeing some Cage stuff. There's a couple of the 2019

[00:01:01] Cage movies that we didn't cover in the podcast that are on Amazon Prime now and I'm like,

[00:01:04] man, I kind of want to watch Kill Chain. I kind of watch Kill Chain but I know we're

[00:01:09] going to do those bonus episodes at some point down the line so I don't want to

[00:01:12] watch them now because a lot of them are probably not going to be very good and

[00:01:16] I'm not sure if I want to watch them twice. But it's sad that we're done with the

[00:01:20] Cage chapter of our lives but also we have to start a new chapter Mike.

[00:01:24] Yes, starting fresh.

[00:01:26] And that's a very exciting thing. So yeah, we need a new actor to talk about on this

[00:01:30] podcast but rather than just talking about it like rational adults and figuring it

[00:01:34] out off air, we're going to turn this into a full tilt brawl to the death.

[00:01:42] I mean whoever we choose is likely going to take up the next couple of years of our

[00:01:46] lives so we've got to be very passionate about who we're going after here.

[00:01:50] Correct.

[00:01:51] So here's how it works. I've picked five actors who I'd like to podcast

[00:01:54] about and Mike you also picked five. Neither of us know who the other one has

[00:01:58] picked much like how we structure our top 10 episodes but this time the stakes

[00:02:02] have never been higher.

[00:02:04] Consequences will never be the same.

[00:02:07] Exactly so it can pretty much be anybody as long as they stick to a couple of

[00:02:10] rules all right there's a couple of rules that we laid out for the people

[00:02:13] that we are going to choose here today. The first one is that they can't

[00:02:17] have been in any movies that we covered under the Nicholas Cage podcast.

[00:02:20] We don't want any duplicate episodes and that eliminates a lot of people.

[00:02:24] Like right off the bat Nicholas Cage starred in 80 plus movies he worked with a lot of

[00:02:31] different actors so a lot of people who I would have loved to do a podcast about

[00:02:35] Samuel L. Jackson or Sam Rockwell or Julianne Moore can't do them they're

[00:02:39] gone hopefully neither none of those names were on your list Mike I don't

[00:02:42] know if you're like seriously scribbling.

[00:02:44] I might need a few minutes.

[00:02:45] No.

[00:02:46] All right rule number two that we laid out is that their career has to span at

[00:02:51] least 20 years meaning it has to have begun by the year 2000 at the very

[00:02:56] latest so there is that also and then number three ideally our picks are

[00:03:01] people who don't already have a ton of podcasts about them on the internet

[00:03:04] which is something that we had to deal with regarding Nicholas Cage.

[00:03:07] Yes during during the time of our podcast although I will say we were

[00:03:11] one of the first Nicholas Cage podcasts out there and obviously the best

[00:03:15] one.

[00:03:16] Clearly.

[00:03:17] Yeah obviously so we're gonna lay out our five picks one by one kind of like

[00:03:21] maybe structure our top 10 episodes on our Mike and Mike Cove movies

[00:03:23] podcast and then we each get to eliminate one actor from the other person's

[00:03:27] list until we each have one left and then it's a matter of convincing

[00:03:31] the other one that our choice is better so when I have one person Mike has

[00:03:35] one person he's got to make the case for why his is the better

[00:03:38] choice and I gotta do the same for myself so yeah in the event that we

[00:03:42] each had the same actor on both of our lists which is definitely a

[00:03:45] possibility because our tastes align in a lot of places that gives that actor

[00:03:50] an advantage and advanced them to the final round where they face off against

[00:03:53] whatever actor remains on each of our lists from the rest of the picking

[00:03:58] but it doesn't necessarily guarantee that the actor who appears on both of

[00:04:01] our lists is going to win I want to keep it like you know wild card rules

[00:04:04] it's good it's gonna be in that event it could be like a three-way

[00:04:07] race between these different actors so we'll see how this goes but yeah

[00:04:12] so uh Mike are you excited about this the possibility of getting on this

[00:04:15] this new podcast train I absolutely am I I'm sad like we mentioned before about

[00:04:21] a Nicholas Cage that was kind of bittersweet when you got that

[00:04:24] letterbox like year-in-review thing the email that

[00:04:27] Nicholas Cage was our most most watched actor and like that's over that'll

[00:04:31] never happen again most likely and that's that's sad

[00:04:35] but um I'm ready for some new stuff and it's going to be exciting to

[00:04:39] figure out who we're going to be covering absolutely so yeah again

[00:04:43] stakes never been higher this is going to determine the future of this podcast for

[00:04:46] the next couple of years probably so it's a big episode for us

[00:04:49] so Mike I'm gonna let you go first give me one of your names that's on your

[00:04:53] list okay the first person that I want to

[00:04:57] mention is none other than Denzel Washington Denzel Washington all right

[00:05:01] that's an interesting choice yeah he's got a total of 58 film credits

[00:05:05] according to IMDB so far so that you know

[00:05:08] clock us in it like just around two and a half three years ish and that's real

[00:05:14] nice that was definitely a factor we mentioned before

[00:05:17] off air before we started that like there were some people

[00:05:20] like I think it was William Sadler I looked up who's a great character actor

[00:05:24] but had like over 200 film credits because he's in like two minutes of

[00:05:27] every movie he's in for most of them so that'd be awesome but I have to

[00:05:32] have a life so he can't do that and yeah Denzel Washington I mean he's

[00:05:36] probably just one of the best working actors right now alive

[00:05:39] and I just feel like it could be interesting to see that

[00:05:43] you know I don't really know a whole lot about his early career just to see if

[00:05:46] he came on the scene and was just like yeah I'm the best immediately or if

[00:05:50] he's one of those guys that was kind of just like

[00:05:53] you know had a speaking a speaking role maybe you know to start as

[00:05:56] he likes some kid in a McDonald's or something like what was Samuel

[00:05:59] Jackson's first thing where he's just like a guy at a hold up or something

[00:06:02] right that was in coming to America you're talking about Samuel Jackson yeah

[00:06:06] yes yeah it'd be fun to see if something like that happens

[00:06:09] with Denzel to get to where he is now and then you know now he's been doing

[00:06:13] you know some action stuff with equalizer and he had his taken moment

[00:06:17] kind of thing so it'd be fun just to see that arc

[00:06:19] yeah fair enough Denzel one of the other great actors of our age and

[00:06:22] definitely a good pick for your team Mike

[00:06:26] my first pick on my team and this is yeah we're teams this is a competitive thing

[00:06:30] we're doing here Mike yes we're drafting I yeah exactly my my the first one I

[00:06:35] want to throw out there uh is one of my favorite screen

[00:06:37] presences one of my favorite actors mr. Jeff Goldblum

[00:06:41] oh man yeah Jeff Goldblum uh I think a huge draw for the internet who loves the

[00:06:47] meme of Jeff Goldblum and so for that reason alone I feel like you know

[00:06:50] hey maybe this podcast can be marketable you never know

[00:06:53] yeah uh and actually I was looking at it and you know I was trying to figure out

[00:06:57] I made sure on my list there were no like other podcasts about my people

[00:07:03] and I'm actually surprised there isn't one for Jeff Goldblum but there is and I

[00:07:06] feel that we can capitalize on that market quick search lives and bring

[00:07:09] a thing up uh there's tons of movies on the Goldblum

[00:07:11] resume uh that I think we would love talking about like Jurassic Park like

[00:07:16] The Fly like Independence Day some Wes Anderson movies Thor Ragnarok your

[00:07:20] favorite movie The Lost World god damn right

[00:07:24] uh but also crucial is that I think his early films

[00:07:27] where he's mostly playing bit parts include a lot of terrific movies in there

[00:07:31] like Death Wish is his very first movie yeah you know and he's in Annie Hall

[00:07:35] he's in Nashville and that kind of thing like he's in a lot of very good

[00:07:38] movies early on in his career so there won't be like you know a

[00:07:41] period where it's like all right they're appearing in bit roles in these

[00:07:43] terrible movies for a little while before they get to the good stuff kind of

[00:07:46] thing uh so for that reason alone and first those reasons I let

[00:07:50] the lead out there I think Jeff Goldblum will be a perfect choice

[00:07:53] for this podcast wow wow that's that's a huge pick not gonna lie

[00:07:57] never even crossed my mind somehow really Jeff Goldblum never crossed my

[00:08:01] he was he was genuinely uh the first one that I like

[00:08:04] hadn't mind for the season two this podcast yeah I'm taking a look at my

[00:08:08] long list and uh yeah he's not on there what

[00:08:10] of what what am I even doing he just toss it all out

[00:08:14] just give up now like because we're doing Jeff Goldblum

[00:08:16] for season two

[00:08:19] incredible we have eight more movies to uh or eight more actors to uh to

[00:08:24] recommend here so uh yes what's your next one

[00:08:26] my next one kind of uh was uh replaced somebody today this morning

[00:08:30] literally um really it was yes it was uh originally

[00:08:34] Sigourney Weaver was on my list uh and this morning I was like you know

[00:08:38] what fucking Viola Davis is incredible

[00:08:43] I want her on there instead all right yeah I don't know it's just like kind of I

[00:08:47] was for some reason was thinking about widows uh the

[00:08:50] Steve McQueen movie that came out I think was last year or the year before

[00:08:54] um and I don't know I just out of nowhere I was like you know what

[00:08:57] Viola Davis let's do it she's got 83 IMDB credits but I think a lot of them

[00:09:02] are TV movies and TV like appearances so it's probably way less or at least

[00:09:07] less than that right yeah so I don't know how we're

[00:09:10] going to handle TV movies we covered Cage's one TV movie or a pilot that he was in

[00:09:15] yes yeah I think um you know with with Cage it was easy because he didn't have

[00:09:18] any really TV credits to his name outside of his very first appearance

[00:09:21] best of times right which was a pilot that never got picked up for series so

[00:09:25] we were able to just review the pilot uh I think we would review TV movies if

[00:09:28] people are in TV movies uh I think for TV shows that they're on shows

[00:09:32] like Viola Davis is not having to do with murder right that show on ABC

[00:09:36] uh so I don't I feel like if it's a significant enough show

[00:09:40] maybe we would review it the first episode or something um or their first

[00:09:44] appearance on the show or something like that but uh I'm not really sure how we

[00:09:47] would handle like an actual TV series thing like I at the Jeff Goldblum kind of

[00:09:50] the same problem because he's on like two seasons of long order criminal

[00:09:52] intent I want to say we're gonna watch those now

[00:09:56] we're watching all 48 episodes or whatever yeah

[00:10:00] in the span of two weeks yeah uh yeah uh but yeah no I think the old

[00:10:04] Davis is a very good pick and one of the uh again strongest actresses

[00:10:07] working today uh so that's a good choice okay my number two pick over here

[00:10:12] uh again one of my favorite actors of all time I went to a movie marathon

[00:10:16] celebrating the work of this actor at one point which you were supposed to come

[00:10:18] with me uh for uh this and you were over sick and you

[00:10:22] couldn't go uh so this is like making up for it

[00:10:25] uh it is Kurt Russell uh and I want to do this podcast because I

[00:10:31] think it would be fascinating to chart Kurt Russell's career

[00:10:35] from Disney Child star to all-time great badass action hero

[00:10:40] before he settles into like a comfortable groove of being an awesome character

[00:10:42] actor uh like that feels like the stages of Kurt Russell's

[00:10:45] career and he like does it like I really haven't seen any of those early

[00:10:48] disney movies uh and that's like a huge blind spot for me I think that'd be

[00:10:51] really interesting to watch uh and I know we would have a last

[00:10:54] talk about his John Carpenter movies and there's so many Kurt Russell

[00:10:57] comedies and other action movies that he's in that I'm like mint a

[00:11:00] Kurt Russell podcast would be pretty dope uh so yeah Kurt Russell

[00:11:04] is a my next chick for uh for this thing man that's another really good book and

[00:11:09] one of the ones we kind of talked about before we decided we were gonna do it

[00:11:11] this way uh like way back like years ago we were like hey maybe next time we

[00:11:15] could do Kurt Russell uh right and yeah that's that's also

[00:11:20] a very good pick uh and especially now that Disney Plus

[00:11:23] um has all of his old when he was a child star uh his tv movie or

[00:11:27] his movies his early movies as a kid uh which you know before that would have

[00:11:31] been probably very difficult to find uh get access to

[00:11:35] that's a good point yeah that yeah now a lot of those old movies are available

[00:11:38] in disney plus so it'll be easier to do a Kurt Russell podcast than it would

[00:11:41] have been like a year ago yeah nice yeah all right

[00:11:44] Mike what's your what's your next choice uh my next choice is uh one

[00:11:48] actually suggested by our good friend EJ and that is John C. Riley

[00:11:53] John C. Riley that is a good one yeah yeah I think uh yeah EJ did suggest that

[00:12:00] one and he's not on my shortlist so there's that

[00:12:02] yeah but yeah John C. Riley that is a really fun one

[00:12:06] yeah I think that'd be really cool to see him go from a character actor you

[00:12:09] know starring in Paul they're not starring but featuring in Paul Thomas

[00:12:12] Anderson movies and stuff like that and then he meets Will Ferrell and

[00:12:15] changes his life and just becomes a comedy man

[00:12:21] and I think he's probably he's always been very funny but like when he's just

[00:12:23] full starring in comedy movies uh it would be really fun to see that transition

[00:12:27] he does have 105 credits according to IMDB now I don't know if that counts I

[00:12:32] didn't like take a quick look if there's tv stuff in there

[00:12:34] there probably is yeah there probably is and he's somebody who works a lot so

[00:12:39] yeah there's probably a lot of credits to his name for sure

[00:12:41] yeah now we did mention one at one point um I had mentioned to you there

[00:12:45] someone I picked specifically because of one single

[00:12:48] movie that I really want to review and talk about

[00:12:50] and that is John C. Riley in The River Wild

[00:12:54] I'm like 1990 something uh Helen Hunt's in it

[00:12:58] Kevin Bacon's in it uh the kid from Jurassic Park like the

[00:13:02] little uh the son you know Joe uh Mozilla or something whatever

[00:13:06] his name is uh yeah something like that Tim in Jurassic

[00:13:10] Park right is that the kid name yeah Tim yeah Tim in Jurassic Joe Mozilla I

[00:13:13] think he was in um he's in Bohemian Rhapsody

[00:13:16] yeah yeah yeah that's one of queen members yeah I know you're talking about

[00:13:19] yeah and this is a movie about this family is on a whitewater rafting trip

[00:13:22] and they come across some uh I forget if they're bank robbers or murderers or

[00:13:26] some shit and it's Kevin Bacon John C. Riley and one

[00:13:29] other guy that are escaping from like the U.S. marshals and they're also on

[00:13:33] the river and they take them hostage and it's like a fucking like hostage

[00:13:35] situation white river rafting movie and it's

[00:13:38] incredible and uh I want to do John C. Riley just to talk

[00:13:41] about that movie fair enough I mean I've never seen that movie so that

[00:13:45] would be a there you go get appealed for me sure uh that's a good one okay

[00:13:49] John C. Riley uh that is a really cool one and definitely you know a cool

[00:13:52] character actor choice yeah two as well uh all right my next one here

[00:13:57] one of my favorite actresses uh Natalie Portman who I love

[00:14:02] I think she's great and like Kurt Russell uh Natalie Portman was a child actor

[00:14:06] um but in very different movies than Kurt Russell was

[00:14:09] I mean she shared up in some greats early on I mean the professional and

[00:14:13] heat and Mars attacks uh and then and then joined up with the Star Wars

[00:14:18] prequels and then I think it's really interesting to see how her career kind

[00:14:21] of transcends from there uh where she kind of steps away from studio

[00:14:23] filmmaking for a decade has a lot of indies and small dramas and then

[00:14:27] ultimately kind of builds towards her Oscar for Black Swan uh and then

[00:14:30] she's been striking a balance between smaller films and bigger budget

[00:14:33] stuff ever since and it's had to come back in a pretty big way to a huge

[00:14:35] audience with a Thor 11 Thunder in 2021 uh so Natalie Portman I think

[00:14:40] had a really interesting career trajectory and uh definitely I think

[00:14:43] I think she would be a really great podcast subject

[00:14:45] yeah that's pretty cool I like that that's uh yeah good pick Mike

[00:14:50] yeah all right we are we got four more actors here to get through Mike so

[00:14:54] what's your uh what's your next one my number two pick

[00:14:57] well my whatever number four pick what uh whatever order I've been doing them

[00:15:02] from the bottom up even though I didn't put them in order

[00:15:04] we started from the bottom and now we're also at the bottom

[00:15:09] correct uh but that that actor is Eddie Murphy Eddie Murphy that is a great

[00:15:13] choice yes yeah he's got 60 credits on IMDB so like right in that sweet spot

[00:15:18] yeah of not gonna be killing ourselves too much although potentially we're

[00:15:22] right now at the the cusp of the eddy comeback uh you know Dolomite is my

[00:15:27] name big big waves uh coming to America too um I feel like there's

[00:15:31] another one that is in the works uh well he just hosts he just hosted SNL for the

[00:15:35] first time in like 30 years and there's a possibility of a Beverly Hills cop

[00:15:38] four that he's which he's been talking about for like 15 years but now it's

[00:15:41] like the closest to actually happening that it's ever been so yeah yeah it's

[00:15:45] but it's possibility yeah I mean just the to chart that that arc from you

[00:15:50] know like biggest name in comedy and movies and stuff in the 80s and

[00:15:54] was he the highest paid actor or the most bankable I forget exactly he had

[00:15:57] some kind of stat for a while there uh yeah he was I mean he's one of the

[00:16:02] biggest stars of all time absolutely yeah like he singlehandedly essentially

[00:16:06] saved seven our lives the show is on the air today because Eddie Murphy was a

[00:16:09] cast member in the 80s wow and there's a whole a whole like if you read um

[00:16:14] live from New York which is the side of the netline like our oral history book

[00:16:17] which I own um because I do because of course I do because I'm a huge nerd

[00:16:21] um you know the way the way everybody talks about Eddie Murphy like he was

[00:16:24] like the breakout star like he came on to the show right after the original

[00:16:27] cast at left and everybody thought it was gonna you know like Lord Michael's

[00:16:30] they even let the show uh wow yeah one margill's was gone to like five years

[00:16:34] and in those five years that's when Eddie Murphy came on and just completely

[00:16:36] took over SNL uh and you know and in the process became like the

[00:16:41] hugest star you know one of the biggest stars of all time

[00:16:44] like blackbuster movies 48 hours Beverly Hills cop and all this stuff so

[00:16:47] yeah Eddie Murphy awesome choice yeah and I think it'd be fun to to

[00:16:51] chart the uh the kind of you know transition from like kind of edgy

[00:16:55] dangerous actor that's in those early movies to like the family comedy guy

[00:17:00] uh to you know Norbit I guess and then now the comeback uh so yeah I feel

[00:17:07] like there's prime prime Eddie Murphy discussions to be had absolutely

[00:17:11] all right Eddie Murphy awesome choice here's my next one and this is mostly

[00:17:15] my excuse to watch a bunch of Hong Kong action movies

[00:17:18] Michelle yo whoa hell yes who is maybe a long shot uh because I'm not sure how

[00:17:24] much demand there is from Michelle yo podcast but I think she's awesome and

[00:17:28] I haven't seen enough of her Hong Kong action movies so this is basically the

[00:17:30] reason why I'm throwing her out there uh and she's at the center of one of the

[00:17:33] most successful foreign films of all time in the U.S. with the crouching

[00:17:36] tiger hidden dragon yeah which I do love and she remains at the forefront of

[00:17:40] very popular movies with a cameo and Guardians of Galaxy 2

[00:17:43] major role in crazy rich Asians and a supposedly pretty big part in the

[00:17:47] upcoming avatar 2 and 3 if those movies ever get released so that's those aren't

[00:17:51] real movies one name like those avatar movies are gonna come out and you're

[00:17:55] gonna love them you're gonna love them I'm telling you uh so yeah Michelle yo I

[00:17:59] think would be a really cool one for this podcast I think uh you know a

[00:18:02] different choice than what we've been doing but also still deeply within

[00:18:05] that kind of action movie mold that we that we really love so yeah yeah

[00:18:09] yeah I mean if we could just get to talk about yes mad on a podcast like

[00:18:12] right yes which is like her third movie so we'd be

[00:18:15] doing that pretty quick uh that'd be incredible now the only thing would be

[00:18:20] these might those might be really hard to find those movies this is true

[00:18:24] yeah you're very right about that we'll find out all right like who's your last

[00:18:28] uh who's your last pick who's your last draft pick here my last draft pick

[00:18:33] is uh none other than bill paxton bill paxton oh shit yes a bit morbid to

[00:18:40] say that it has an end date at least for the movies um but that was an issue in

[00:18:46] the cage you know where we had to leave some movies behind uh so yeah he's got 97

[00:18:50] credits according to imdb and uh I mean just one of the the all-time character

[00:18:55] actors I think that some was also a leading man like that kind of he somehow

[00:18:59] managed to do both where he just sort of had bit parts where he'd be like

[00:19:02] fuck yeah that's bill paxton and then he'd be the leading dude you know

[00:19:05] leading guy in twister or something um I was about to ask you did you pick

[00:19:09] bill paxton just so we could talk about twister not just because of twister but

[00:19:13] that definitely was a huge positive uh we finally crossed that off the list of

[00:19:17] podcasting about twister also um this really he really jumped to mind honestly

[00:19:22] when I um rewatched uh butcher baker nightmare maker where he's the

[00:19:28] captain of the basketball team on that movie and I was like holy shit

[00:19:31] uh we need to talk about bill paxton because he's that he's like that

[00:19:34] punk kid and terminator uh right his first movie is a has a vinegar syndrome

[00:19:38] blu-ray uh so like just weird shit that he was in uh and I think it'd be really

[00:19:43] cool to to track his uh his arc and his one directorial movie uh I think it's

[00:19:48] the only movie he directed frailty with Matthew Bacconi is incredible um so

[00:19:52] yeah I think we'd have a lot of fun tracking down bill paxton movies

[00:19:56] nice yeah I mean I love bill paxton that's a really good choice for your

[00:19:59] podcast and then okay my last one kind of in the same

[00:20:02] van is your eddie murphy one actually it's a comedian and I wanted to go a

[00:20:05] comedian on my shortlist because I wanted to mix up a little bit and I went with

[00:20:09] one of my all-time favorites and that is Steve Martin oh shit and his film

[00:20:14] career actually kind of goes a similar trajectory to eddie murphy's

[00:20:18] um where they're both starring in you know really big popular comedies

[00:20:21] uh for adults and they're really funny and great very stringy successful

[00:20:25] great movies and then that starts to give way to more mediocre family

[00:20:29] movie yeah yeah as time goes on uh plus we could do a whole series of episodes

[00:20:34] just on his bluegrass albums if we so chose we definitely could I think that

[00:20:39] would be the most unlistable thing imaginable

[00:20:43] if we did that but I would have so much fun doing it so

[00:20:46] yeah uh so yeah my last pick is Steve Martin for for those reasons

[00:20:50] wow that's incredible yeah actually uh Steve Martin actually totally unrelated

[00:20:55] came up I was without doing a board game night with one of my friends

[00:20:58] and uh it was like this we were playing to crypto which is whatever it's a whole

[00:21:01] thing we have to use like uh code passwords or or something like hints to

[00:21:05] get people to guess stuff whatever and I tried to get uh the word was

[00:21:09] nose that I had to get my friend to figure out and I used Roxanne

[00:21:13] and he didn't get it but somebody like you would have like

[00:21:17] and that's all I can say yeah there you go

[00:21:20] I mean I might have guessed uh the police if you said Roxanne but

[00:21:23] well he knew nose was the word like he knew knows the word

[00:21:27] I just yeah it was a whole thing don't worry about it all right

[00:21:30] uh all right so the recap here's what we picked uh my team Jeff Goldblum

[00:21:35] Kurt Russell Natalie Portman Michelle Yeo and Steve Martin pretty good group if I

[00:21:39] say so myself nice not bad your team Denzel Washington Viola Davis John C

[00:21:44] Riley Eddie Murphy and Bill Paxton a bunch of sorry losers who are never

[00:21:48] going to be apart what a bunch of scrubs

[00:21:54] all right so uh so here's how it's gonna work now these these names are out there

[00:21:58] Mike do you have all these written down my team and stuff yes okay yeah I wrote

[00:22:01] down okay and I wrote down all yours uh so we're going to go back and forth

[00:22:05] eliminating each other's team until there's one left I'm surprised there was no

[00:22:09] overlap between our lists actually honestly yeah that was a huge concern

[00:22:12] for me actually um I think in my long list I actually only

[00:22:17] have one of yours I only have Kurt Russell in my

[00:22:20] long list oh really okay yeah I know we I think

[00:22:23] originally the plan was we were just going to do Keanu Reeves

[00:22:26] um for season two of this podcast and then Patrick Willems uh who's a great

[00:22:30] you know youtube film critic he started a podcast called can't get enough of

[00:22:33] Keanu where he is just going through every movie that Keanu Reeves has

[00:22:35] ever made and I'm like well we can't just do that same thing

[00:22:38] yeah uh so yeah so unfortunately Keanu Reeves off the table but

[00:22:43] I think that opened it up for some more variety in our in our choices

[00:22:46] actually yes so that's a good thing so Mike I'm gonna let you go first who do

[00:22:50] you want to eliminate off of my list oh my god this is really hard Mike I'm not

[00:22:55] going to lie um that's what you do when you have

[00:22:58] such good picks on my end yeah I mean who knew I had such a worthy

[00:23:02] adversary um I am going to eliminate I think uh Steve Martin

[00:23:07] first okay all right Steve Martin's on that's a shame

[00:23:11] uh it's tough but I think for me he'd be the least

[00:23:14] interesting I think you think so I mean you see you don't want to

[00:23:19] review all this bluegrass albums is what you're saying

[00:23:22] I'm saying we need to do an off-mic episode for

[00:23:25] like a mic that's just the Steve Martin bluegrass review

[00:23:29] okay that's fair all right so Steve Martin's off the table that's a bummer

[00:23:32] but it means we don't have to watch the pink panther too

[00:23:35] so I'm uh so I'll take it as a win um on your list Mike uh I hate to do it

[00:23:43] I'm gonna eliminate Denzel Washington you son of a bitch

[00:23:48] I'm sorry but and my reasoning for this is because they're actually

[00:23:52] and you this was a few years back so you might not be aware of this podcast but

[00:23:55] there was a Denzel Washington podcast years ago that um

[00:24:00] W. Kamau Bell hosted I want to say um who's I don't know if you know him he

[00:24:04] had a he was a comedian he had like a late night show on FXX or something

[00:24:07] uh okay but he had a podcast called um Denzel Washington is the greatest actor

[00:24:11] of all time period uh where yeah they would just review Denzel Washington

[00:24:14] movies um fair and so yeah I feel like and I didn't even

[00:24:18] listen to that podcast I just remember like he was a guest on a different

[00:24:21] podcast where he talked about it and so and so for that reason

[00:24:26] I'm eliminating Denzel off your list that's fair that's legit

[00:24:30] all right so uh okay I have four left on my team Mike who are you getting

[00:24:33] rid of oh man um

[00:24:38] I think I think I'm gonna have to get rid of

[00:24:42] oh this is so scary um man I wish there was I think it's gonna have to be Kurt

[00:24:50] Russell what's Kurt Russell you get rid of Kurt

[00:24:53] my boy my boy oh I think so man well okay get give you some

[00:25:00] reasoning behind your getting rid of Kurt Russell

[00:25:03] it's just so many movies

[00:25:10] look it's gonna hurt yeah you're looking for something short and sweet is what

[00:25:13] you're saying right is that what I'm hearing

[00:25:16] uh I mean not not not exactly but uh oh man I don't know it's just hard it's

[00:25:23] just there it's a really tough choice and there's some people it's just

[00:25:27] they're gonna be let down and that's that's what it's gonna have to be

[00:25:30] I guess I guess you're right yeah I'm starting to feel I'm starting to feel it

[00:25:33] that was a hurtful thing on your end to me

[00:25:36] uh all right on your list now uh okay so you got four left you have

[00:25:42] Vio Davis, John C Riley, Eddie Murphy and Bill Paxton

[00:25:45] um I think I'm gonna have to get rid of Vio Davis

[00:25:49] yeah sometimes I like that I am very sorry but I feel like

[00:25:53] of all these actors Vio Davis incredible actress

[00:25:57] stars in some great movies but the kind of movies that I most enjoy watching

[00:26:01] are typically not the kind of movies that Vio Davis makes you know what I mean

[00:26:04] you know what I mean yeah definitely like all these guys have comedies or action

[00:26:08] movies or whatever and like Vio Davis makes some great dramas and she's

[00:26:11] you know been good in various things um plus this way we don't have to watch

[00:26:14] Suicide Squad so you're welcome

[00:26:18] we're gonna miss out on the Suicide Squad or whatever it's called the

[00:26:21] new one well we'll probably review that for Mike who might go to the

[00:26:23] movies anyways oh shit I didn't even think of that

[00:26:27] yeah don't forget we have another podcast bike that may cover some upcoming

[00:26:30] movies fair fair fair all right so who are you

[00:26:34] gonna eliminate off my list Mike now I got three left

[00:26:37] mmm you got three left oh boy this is really hard because there's one person

[00:26:43] that I for sure want yeah I think so I'm gonna have to

[00:26:48] eliminate Natalie Portman Natalie Portman you getting rid of her

[00:26:51] getting rid of her oh man that is I know man it's a tough

[00:26:55] you're depriting our audience at a Mars attacks episode Mike I want you to know

[00:26:59] fuck

[00:27:02] and now I was just thinking about there's just the thing going around on uh on

[00:27:05] Twitter today or yesterday or whatever someone took the the audio commentary

[00:27:09] from the thing and just cut it up like cut cut it so it's all

[00:27:12] the parts where it's John Carpenter and Kurt Russell laughing

[00:27:14] yes man can I have Kurt Russell back

[00:27:18] it's he's already gone you already live he's already gone he's out you

[00:27:22] fair fair call and now Kurt Russell is gone forever from this podcast if

[00:27:27] maybe he'll get to he'll get a chance at season three the complete works

[00:27:30] maybe but at last season two he has been eliminated he's disqualified his

[00:27:35] movies are deleted from the public consciousness nobody remembers who he

[00:27:39] is

[00:27:41] yes it's like uh it's like um what Thanos is playing in like end game where

[00:27:45] he's saying like oh I'll erase them and you they won't remember you this time

[00:27:49] you just erase Kurt Russell from all humanity

[00:27:52] yeah I hope you're sorry Arnold Schwarzenegger is a star overboard now

[00:27:55] and it's your fault all right your list um looking at it

[00:28:01] John C. Riley Eddie Murphy Bill Paxton I mean

[00:28:06] uh of those three I know who I want to make it to the end

[00:28:11] yeah actually so actually it doesn't really matter which one I live in again

[00:28:13] I can't because I'll be living in the other one later uh so unfortunately I have to

[00:28:18] say goodbye to John C. Riley ooh baby I am sorry Mike

[00:28:23] John C. Riley's gone you will never get to talk about the River Wilds I'm gonna

[00:28:26] have to start a river wildcast and just talk about that like Star Wars minute

[00:28:31] but for yeah but for this movie that no one remembers

[00:28:35] yes yep I saw what's his name Brian Sauer tweet about it one time

[00:28:39] Rupert Puppet speaks on twitter okay and he specializes in movies that nobody remembers

[00:28:44] correct wait no fuck

[00:28:48] all right so I have two left on my list like uh Mike right here chef Colby

[00:28:51] Michelle Yeo who are you getting rid of oh wait this is the hardest decision

[00:28:54] I've ever had to make about anything yeah because I 100%

[00:29:00] want to cover Michelle Yeo however I feel like tracking down her Hong Kong

[00:29:05] action movies and those early movies with hers may be way too hard

[00:29:09] for our means and our abilities for such things so I think I'm gonna have to

[00:29:13] strike Michelle Yeo all right Michelle Yeo is off the list which leaves

[00:29:18] Jeff Goldblum on my team which hey that's a pretty strong lead

[00:29:22] that is a very strong pick and actually he is the one that I most wanted

[00:29:25] to do on the team so that's that's right okay

[00:29:29] and you've got Eddie Murphy and Bill Paxson left on your team so I'm

[00:29:32] sorry Mike I'm getting rid of Mr. Bill Paxson

[00:29:36] no your twister episode will be uh we we gotta do twister at some point

[00:29:42] like we've talked about it so much but uh the Bill Paxson test

[00:29:46] will not is not meant to be uh I feel like I would much more

[00:29:51] enjoy doing Eddie Murphy podcast because like like the way you said I

[00:29:53] think he it's an analysis of one of the biggest stars of all time and

[00:29:57] see how his career went from comedies needed action movies a little bit

[00:30:01] and you know then start doing the family stuff and then kind of the comeback

[00:30:03] and all that so yeah Eddie Murphy is a good uh pick for you as well so I think

[00:30:08] the Jeff Goldblum versus Eddie Murphy battle has to begin now Mike

[00:30:11] oh my god first I would like to point out that I'm gonna have to now

[00:30:16] definitely have to do like a 90s action cast and just our crowd twister

[00:30:20] and the River Wilde it's two movies that I want to talk about

[00:30:23] and you've robbed me of the opportunity well you got rid of Kurt Russell

[00:30:27] Mike so I don't don't put that evil on me

[00:30:31] which is a John C Riley quote or movie

[00:30:39] yeah but I get what you're saying yeah um it's a shame we'll never hear it

[00:30:43] we'll never we'll never get to watch Talide Good Nights

[00:30:45] on this podcast it's a bummer it's a bummer for sure uh okay so

[00:30:49] I've got Jeff Goldblum you've got Eddie Murphy and Mike make the case for Eddie

[00:30:53] Murphy I feel like we kind of already we've

[00:30:55] made the case already uh just to see this the biggest star of a decade uh to go

[00:31:01] from the the highest person you know highest uh highest highs in

[00:31:04] Hollywood making whatever movies he wants uh and to disappear basically I

[00:31:09] don't remember when the last movie he made before Dolomite is my name uh

[00:31:13] came out do you remember it do you happen to know at the top of your head

[00:31:16] you're that kind of guy um you know what he made a

[00:31:19] movie called Mr. Church uh in like 2016

[00:31:23] I want to say uh that might have been his last movie before Dolomite is my name

[00:31:27] I'm gonna look at that right now I'm gonna go to his filmography and I think what

[00:31:29] we should do is just compare the movies of Jeff Goldblum versus Eddie Murphy and

[00:31:33] see you know what what we would have more fun talking

[00:31:36] about I think that might be the way to discuss this to figure this out

[00:31:40] this is tough all right so here's here's what we got for Eddie Murphy

[00:31:44] so first let me check to see if he had any movies before Dolomite

[00:31:46] yeah Mr. Church is his movie before Dolomite is my name which was 2016

[00:31:50] which was a drama that nobody saw yeah uh so okay so Eddie Murphy I mean I think

[00:31:56] it's gonna be a lot of fun to start with okay you've got 48 hours you've got

[00:31:59] trading places Beverly Hills Cop we we probably have to cover his stand-up

[00:32:04] specials too so Eddie Murphy Raw and Delirious

[00:32:07] coming coming to America another 48 hours but then we also do the Beverly Hills

[00:32:13] Cop sequels which aren't as good

[00:32:16] the West Craven movie Vampire in Brooklyn which I have not seen but I've

[00:32:19] heard not great things uh Golden Childs probably uh we would do Milan we'd

[00:32:25] have to do Milan um 90 professor Dr. Doolittle

[00:32:29] Bowfinger which is a great movie which stars Steve Martin so we'd get a

[00:32:32] Steve Martin thing in there oh yeah and then we have to do the Shrek movies

[00:32:35] also was that part of your plan Mike did you want us to do the Shrek movie

[00:32:38] you're goddamn right it was was that your evil plan this entire time

[00:32:43] we time it just right for Shrek 5 we'd be at the forefront of Eddie Murphy

[00:32:48] podcasting I I completely forgot Eddie Murphy was in Shrek when I

[00:32:54] eliminated when I kept him on your list you son of a bitch

[00:32:58] you can have back Bill Paxton if I can have back Kurt Russell

[00:33:05] it's too late Mike we're in the thick of it now

[00:33:07] my god all right so Eddie Murphy has a lot of movies I think we would have a

[00:33:10] lot of fun talking about and it's also like you know he's got a lot of

[00:33:14] movies but they're not like it's not like a cage level of movies

[00:33:17] there's probably like right maybe 35 to 40 movies on this list really and then

[00:33:21] like I mean how many was on the um the IMD thing that you checked

[00:33:25] was 60 okay but some of that's TV appearances

[00:33:29] for sure because he I mean he was a cast member on SNL

[00:33:32] back in the day and he hosted a couple times and

[00:33:34] you know that includes um the PJs which was a tv show that he was on

[00:33:38] and created stuff so there's a few different things on there which

[00:33:42] yeah so we probably have to talk about some of that too but yeah oh dream

[00:33:45] girls also on the thing too didn't win an Oscar for that

[00:33:49] nominated he was nominated for an Oscar for that he did not win I think that was

[00:33:51] the thing because he once he lost he left the ceremony he did not

[00:33:56] stay for the rest of it he was really mad about it but yeah so

[00:33:59] nutty professor two the clumps uh there you go so I mean Hercules baby

[00:34:04] yeah in all-time classic uh all right and then you compare it to the

[00:34:08] films of Jeff Goldblum uh Death Wish, Nashville,

[00:34:11] The Sentinel, Annie Hall, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, that's just the 70s,

[00:34:17] The Big Chill, The Right Stuff, Buckaroo Benzai, Silverado, The Fly,

[00:34:22] Earth Girls Are Easy, uh let's see here the player he has a cameo in

[00:34:26] of course Dress Up Park, Independence Day,

[00:34:30] your favorite movie of all time, The Lost World Dress Up Park.

[00:34:33] Correct just protecting her baby yep I saw you tweeting about that one

[00:34:37] the other day actually uh the Prince of Egypt is on the Jeff Goldblum

[00:34:42] list here which would be a cool one Cats and Dogs, the classic

[00:34:45] right yeah I have that on DVD I have Cats and Dogs on VHS

[00:34:51] my god it's like we've been preparing preparing for this podcast

[00:34:55] our entire lives Mike you have to watch the VHS copy

[00:34:59] if we do that episode I gotta fly bats in New York watch my VHS copy

[00:35:03] of Cats and Dogs uh let's see here

[00:35:06] absolutely uh some Wes Anderson movies, The Life of

[00:35:09] Quadruple Steve Zizzou and then yeah I started with the 2000s he's in

[00:35:13] less and less movies over time but he's in Steve Zizzou

[00:35:15] he's in a Tim and Eric's billion dollar movie he's in

[00:35:19] the Grand Budapest Hotel uh Independence Day 2, Guardians 2, he's

[00:35:23] well Guardians 2 he's like a closing credits cameo I don't know if that

[00:35:25] would count but of course Thor Ragnarok, Isle of Dogs,

[00:35:29] Jurassic World 2 that's not just a selling point for you

[00:35:33] so yeah I mean that's pretty much you know that's the Goldblum versus the

[00:35:38] Murphy Filmography which of those sounds more appealing to you

[00:35:42] man what's do we have a total on Jeff Goldblum

[00:35:46] according to IMDb

[00:35:49] here you go 127 appearances appearances that could be anything

[00:35:56] literally double Eddie Murphy Mike but that includes a lot of different

[00:36:01] Jeff Goldblum has done a lot of TV work also which is a great thing you know

[00:36:04] that includes um you know he's hosted SNL twice he was on

[00:36:08] Crank Yankers a couple of times he's on I'm looking at his IMDb he

[00:36:12] appears on Tim and Eric a few times uh Portlandia

[00:36:15] Law and Order of course uh where he was a catch member for two years

[00:36:19] so yeah I mean that that includes a lot of TV stuff so really I mean kind

[00:36:23] of I'm estimating here's kind of scrolling through I'm using Wikipedia

[00:36:27] as the uh as the list here in IMDb because they kind of separated by

[00:36:29] films and TV I mean it's definitely more movies than Eddie Murphy

[00:36:33] uh it's probably like 50-ish I would say maybe 50-ish more

[00:36:40] of 50-ish movies uh whereas I'm thinking Eddie Murphy is like

[00:36:43] 30-ish you know okay it's it's like maybe 30 to 40 whereas

[00:36:48] Jeff Goldblum's maybe like 50 to 60 that's my that's my yeah space on like

[00:36:51] just what Wikipedia is showing me here

[00:36:54] right so it is it is longer we will be doing the podcast that's like

[00:36:58] basically an additional year and a half of the podcast

[00:37:03] which is maybe not as much of a selling point for you I feel like I'm talking

[00:37:05] myself out of Jeff Goldblum now I well it's funny because I was going to say

[00:37:10] despite being uh longer or having more movies I think

[00:37:14] the movies of Jeff Goldblum would be more fun to watch and talk about

[00:37:19] if that makes sense he's in some weird fucking stuff

[00:37:23] plus Lost World yeah he's in a lot of weird stuff and there's a lot of variety in the kind

[00:37:29] of stuff he's in uh for sure too which is Eddie Murphy it's it's a lot of Eddie

[00:37:34] Murphy movies you know it's a lot of comedies right a lot of which are great

[00:37:38] um but I feel with Jeff Goldblum you know it's jumping around like with

[00:37:40] different kinds of like big name directors there's a you know Robert Altman in

[00:37:44] there there's Woody Allen there's Don Siegel and all you know all these

[00:37:47] different uh big names uh so I'm just looking at the 70s right now again

[00:37:51] there's more I can only look at so many movies at once

[00:37:55] uh on the competing right uh yeah I mean there's a lot of like really great

[00:37:59] movies Cronenberg and Spielberg and uh you know Lawrence Kasdan and uh all these

[00:38:04] great filmmakers uh Wes Anderson of course uh so yeah so between the two

[00:38:10] uh Jeff Goldblum Eddie Murphy it is like it's dead heat in my mind right now

[00:38:13] this is really tough yeah this is really tough I can't believe we don't have

[00:38:16] like a way to figure this out should we just like flip a coin or something

[00:38:20] should we call a friend what should we do should we call producer Colin ask him to

[00:38:24] read back the minutes of the podcast and figure out based on like what we've

[00:38:27] said so far who we should get towards uh we could I could we could cut here and

[00:38:33] I could call Colin text him or something and ask between the two of them

[00:38:37] what would he prefer and have him be the final armada

[00:38:41] um okay do that yeah do that

[00:38:45] okay we'll be right back uh hey yeah sorry uh we're doing podcast stuff you're

[00:38:55] not gonna be able to hear mic but you're on speaker you're on speakerphone

[00:39:00] okay because we're doing our uh you know pick the new a new episode new guy for

[00:39:05] complete works yep and we're out of dead we're deadlocked we can't we both

[00:39:10] want to do the other person's final person so as the producer of the show

[00:39:17] who who would you rather hear a complete works episode complete works season about

[00:39:24] eddie murphy or or jeff goldblum holy shit right that was that was really good

[00:39:36] right oh man so I selected I put up eddie murphy

[00:39:41] and okay don't tell me who uh whoops

[00:39:46] yeah but my this my initial thought was jeff goldblum jeff goldblum jeff goldblum

[00:39:51] is that it that's the one I think uh as decided by our unofficial official producer now

[00:39:58] I think it's gonna have to be jeff goldblum all right thank you Colin

[00:40:01] my first official actually a producer yeah the first official actual oh you checked the

[00:40:05] minutes that's a real thing jk yeah that's true okay uh all right we're gonna get back to the

[00:40:14] episode thanks thanks thanks for helping about a problem that's what I am talking to you later

[00:40:23] okay all right well there it is producer Colin has determined it he broke the tie

[00:40:30] jeff goldblum is the subject of the new season of complete works uh which means

[00:40:35] which means that I have emerged victorious oh wait no you stupid fool

[00:40:46] yeah there it is jeff goldblum I am very excited about this one Mike I think we're gonna

[00:40:50] have a lot of fun talking about jeff goldblum over the next like three years

[00:40:54] yeah uh but maybe you won't even see three years maybe we can like speed up the process a little

[00:41:01] bit maybe start at some point start doing this as a weekly podcast I would love to

[00:41:05] have enough time to do that if that's just a matter of like being able to do it I guess

[00:41:09] but yeah are you excited for jeff goldblum Mike yes that's who I picked yeah man it's

[00:41:14] pretty funny that we like flipped I wanted jeff goldblum you wanted any Murphy

[00:41:19] but in the end I won so there is that I guess I won I don't know the ed murphy one sounded really

[00:41:25] good too maybe we can save that for season three the complete works keep it in the back five it

[00:41:29] season three is Kurt Russell season three is Kurt Russell god damn it uh well I mean we'll

[00:41:34] probably have to do something like this again in in season three to uh you know figure out

[00:41:38] what we're gonna do but yeah so jeff goldblum is going to be the subject of the new season

[00:41:43] of the complete works and I am very very excited about that prospect it's a lot of great movies

[00:41:46] that we're gonna be getting to uh the first of which is going to be uh his very very small role in

[00:41:51] death wish from 1974 um yes that's going to be a lot of fun uh I mean again he's like maybe in two

[00:41:58] seconds of that movie um but it's a pretty good movie yeah I think we'll enjoy talking about it anyway

[00:42:03] were you at um was it Hudson horror show when they showed when we saw death wish

[00:42:07] I was not I was living in montana at the time so uh yeah you you went to that one I think you

[00:42:12] went there with a producer colon actually yeah there's actually a really funny moment where Jeff

[00:42:17] Goldblum's uh scene came up and the film melted so they had to or like whatever you know whatever

[00:42:23] happens with film things um came off the track or some shit so they like had to you know fast

[00:42:28] forward a little bit or wind the film forward and then put it back on so I missed his scene

[00:42:34] so so hot he melts the film that is uh projecting his image uh yeah Jeff Goldblum we're

[00:42:40] gonna be starting with death wish going all the way until the world according to Jeff Goldblum on

[00:42:44] disney plus maybe uh we'll see maybe we do the first episode of that whenever we come around to it but

[00:42:50] yeah all right so Jeff Goldblum the new subject completely works I think a worthy successor a

[00:42:55] successor to nipples cage absolutely all right so there we go we'll be doing that episode in

[00:43:01] about two weeks Mike Reckley finds you online this week you can find me at mdfilmblog on

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[00:43:16] uh twitter handle for this uh upcoming Jeff Goldblum podcast too so you'll be able to follow us over

[00:43:20] there as well and we got to think of a name for the podcast actually too uh which uh I think um

[00:43:26] you know like I was thinking about gold blooming in my head uh which is our community

[00:43:32] reference uh I don't know if you remember that but that's from the first season where um Jeff is

[00:43:37] like getting obsessed with like a pottery class and uh and he starts like muttering under his breath

[00:43:41] and obits like Jeff you're gold blooming and Jeff's like and just like gold blooming I uh uh I

[00:43:48] don't even I don't even know what that means uh so I think I think gold blooming will be a good

[00:43:55] uh podcast name I've also thought about gold bloom maniacs but I feel like that might be too

[00:43:59] difficult for people that's a lot of syllables yeah exactly I think gold blooming a complete

[00:44:03] works podcast could be the uh the future of this thing I like it unless we unless we figure out a

[00:44:09] different name in the meantime but anyway uh thank you for listening to the complete works on mike

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[00:44:21] and you can find the rest of our podcast on rapture press alongside the reviews do a podcast

[00:44:25] about comic books and movie news and all that nerdy stuff so our next episode of gold blooming

[00:44:30] is going to be the first one focusing on Jeff Goldblum and that's going to be death wish very excited

[00:44:35] about that plus keep an eye out for the next mic might go to the movies where we'll be discussing

[00:44:40] the new guy richie joint the gentleman which i'm also pretty excited about it looks like a fun

[00:44:44] yeah uh all right and that does it a new season of the complete works is upon us guys uh so

[00:44:51] thanks so much for listening and we haven't thought of a new outro yet so i'll just say thanks for

[00:44:56] getting in the cage see here i'm now by myself uh talking to myself that's that's okay