Well, this is it. Mike and Mike are closing the book on Nicolas Cage, and they're doing it with their biggest episode ever. They'll comb through Nicolas Cage's entire career, look back on classic moments from his movies and this very podcast, and count down their Top 5 Worst Cage Movies, their Top 5 Favorite Insane Cage Moments, their Top 5 Best Cage Performances, and finally, their Top 10 Favorite Nicolas Cage movies of all time.
It's been a wild ride over the last four years, people. Thanks for getting in the Cage.
[00:00:00] And now it's time for getting the cage our flagship segment in which film star Nicholas Cage sits down
[00:00:06] With a fellow actor to discuss the craft and future project so please join me in welcoming Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Cage
[00:00:13] I think he's a genius. I mean he keeps getting hired for some reason and it's not because of his hair
[00:00:18] I don't know if I was in 70 films over 30 years and I spent each one talking at random volumes
[00:00:23] I might accidentally win an Oscar all right for example this just came in today
[00:00:27] I've got it right here you'd be playing a prisoner who asks if he can leave and the warden says yes, and then I leave
[00:00:33] Yeah, that's not a very interesting story. So this is the kind of picture you shouldn't do
[00:00:38] But I also remember you and me becoming best friends and watching every Nick Cage movie ever made
[00:00:42] Can you still quote them all no I purged myself of that nonsense? I bet it's still in there
[00:00:46] It's not we'll see there's a chance it's in there chance of zero put money that maybe it's there losing your money
[00:00:50] Okay, so will you help me? I don't know I want to but keep it a secret from Holt
[00:00:54] That's a lot of pressure. Hmm. I'm remembering correctly. Don't you eat a pressure for breakfast? Oh
[00:01:00] Nick Cage in the rock we are best friends. I am so in our first award tonight is best use of a wife beater and regional accent
[00:01:10] Denominies are Nicholas Cage raising Arizona my lawless years were behind me our child rearing years
[00:01:17] Let it hit Nicholas Cage
[00:01:19] Moonstruck
[00:01:22] My
[00:01:25] God present boy, okay see the award goes to
[00:01:32] Nicholas Cage
[00:01:35] This is my reality. This is how I learned to be in my being doesn't allow for Nicholas freaking
[00:01:59] Ah
[00:02:02] Nevertheless
[00:02:04] The time has come for us to ride on to our next adventure
[00:02:08] What is that?
[00:02:10] We're gonna have a three-way with the Declaration of Independence
[00:02:18] That was brilliant hello and welcome to the very first episode of the complete works an official podcast of film book calm
[00:02:25] My name is Mike Smith and joining me on this journey through a fascinating career is my good friend and film book cast co-host
[00:02:31] Mike to Chris you how you doing today Mike?
[00:02:33] Good. I'm excited for this potentially long and arduous task
[00:02:40] Exactly now the idea for the complete works was a simple one
[00:02:44] We thought it would be fun
[00:02:46] Exercise to go through in actors entire filmography film by film
[00:02:50] Breaking down each role and seeing how that actor evolved over time as well as sitting the ups and downs of their career
[00:02:55] And how they respond to it now there were a lot of actors that me and Mike consider for this exercise
[00:02:59] The selection was based on three criteria
[00:03:02] The actor has to be somebody that both me and Mike are big fans of above all we want to be enthusiastic throughout this podcast right Mike
[00:03:08] Yeah, it's always a good help. Yeah
[00:03:10] Number two the actor has to have a long and diverse career
[00:03:13] Seeing an actor grow over the course of 30 years holds more weight behind it than an actor whose career is only five years in
[00:03:19] and three
[00:03:20] The actor had to be somebody who had great appeal to the internet
[00:03:23] Somebody who we thought was popular enough to warrant an entire podcast devoted to their life's work now with all that in mind
[00:03:31] Mike and I decided there was only one person who could possibly be the first to get the complete works treatment
[00:03:36] And that my friends is actor Nicholas Cage
[00:03:39] That's right. This is happening
[00:03:42] Born Nicholas Coppola the nephew of director Francis Ford Coppola
[00:03:45] He changed his last name to cage to avoid charges nepotism in Hollywood naming himself after one of his favorite Marvel Comics characters Luke Cage
[00:03:52] Cage is well known for his acting style and in particular how wildly he can vary not even from film to film
[00:03:58] But sometimes from scene to scene his over and under acting is something that has been a recurring joke for years
[00:04:04] But I don't think it has been explored to this deep of an extent
[00:04:07] Since making his debut in 1981
[00:04:10] Nicholas Cage has appeared in over 70 films and today Mike and I are going to begin our insane
[00:04:15] misguided journey into watching each and every one and so
[00:04:19] Let's begin taking a look at Nicholas Cage's first on-screen appearance
[00:04:24] 1981's best of times
[00:04:39] The way is that Nicholas Cage
[00:04:52] Hello and welcome to the complete works for the final time an in-depth look into the career and filmography
[00:04:59] Of Nicholas Cage. My name is Mike Smith joining me on this journey into the depths of true cage them
[00:05:05] Is my friend co-host and fellow cageaholic Mike to creature
[00:05:09] How you doing it Mike? It's a bittersweet day here at the complete works yet again, but I'm doing okay
[00:05:15] Yeah, I am it is bittersweet. I would say I say joining me on this journey, but really ending this journey
[00:05:21] With me. It's been four years that we've been doing this podcast
[00:05:25] That's pretty dumb if you really think about it
[00:05:31] But it's been a great four years Mike it really has yeah, we've you know
[00:05:35] We kind of back then we were doing film book cast
[00:05:38] We had like kind of just met like a year beforehand or whatever
[00:05:42] We both finished college and like as we were finishing college like we were both like you know what?
[00:05:47] Maybe we should do another podcast like a second one
[00:05:49] Yeah on top of this podcast that we don't know if we'll be able to continue once we leave college
[00:05:53] Let's just start something new and then abandon it maybe
[00:05:58] Exactly, and I think I had the idea to do like a complete like an actor like an actor film by film type thing
[00:06:04] And then I pitched it to you and I was like, how about what you Nicholas Cage? And you were like, yeah, all right fine
[00:06:11] That about actually sums up my memory of that reaction
[00:06:16] If we have to like sure right
[00:06:20] Exactly, but from best of times to between worlds from Academy Award winning actor to
[00:06:25] video on-demand superstar from subtle nuanced performances to the opposite of that
[00:06:32] This is it. We have finally reached the end of the road with Nicholas Cage
[00:06:37] So like in the first episode of this podcast which premiered way back in June 2015
[00:06:41] I think we announced I think we announced this podcast in our review of Mad Max Fury Road for
[00:06:49] For film book cast to give people context of what was happening in the world in
[00:06:53] 2015 when then when the complete works first launched and changed everything
[00:06:58] In our first episode we laid out the goal of this podcast
[00:07:02] Which was to break down and analyze Nicholas Cage's entire career film by film
[00:07:07] See how he grew and changed over time and how that reflected the state of the film industry
[00:07:12] Mike it is now 90 episodes of the complete works. Do you feel like we have accomplished that goal?
[00:07:18] I mean in like a broad sense. Yeah, sure
[00:07:27] Think we did though. We we we did it. We covered
[00:07:31] When did best of times come out 1980 what?
[00:07:35] 1981
[00:07:37] 1981 to 2018 that's out of control. That is a
[00:07:42] ridiculous amount of time to cover
[00:07:45] Both of us are trying to do the math in our head. Yeah, it's it's still it's still
[00:07:49] Bunkers that we ended up finishing this podcast
[00:07:52] I'm not sure either one of us actually thought we would ever finish if you go back listen that first episode of the show
[00:07:56] That we did we were both like yeah, this is gonna be a long time that we're doing this, huh?
[00:08:02] Yeah, especially because we did look up there were some other Nicholas Cage
[00:08:06] You know podcasts covering them and none of them had made it all the way to the end. They all gave up
[00:08:11] You know like mid-2000s ish. I believe
[00:08:14] Right, it was something like that
[00:08:16] But although when we started there was like we didn't realize there were other cage podcast when we started
[00:08:20] And then when we figured it out
[00:08:22] We there was probably two or three other ones that were out there in the ether if you go on the like Spotify or iTunes now
[00:08:28] There's like 25 to 30 other Nicholas Cage
[00:08:32] Podcast wow propped up in our wake. We were really pioneers in the Nicholas Cage podcast movement Mike
[00:08:38] The tip of the spear if you will
[00:08:40] exactly
[00:08:41] So even if we haven't walked away with you know a grander sense of cage the person or the state of the film industry or whatever
[00:08:49] I think we I think we did leave with a great understanding of cage the performer
[00:08:53] Maybe we've gotten to the heart of who Nicholas Cage is maybe we've seen something that very few people will ever get to see
[00:08:58] Or maybe this whole thing drove us insane. Maybe we're more insane people
[00:09:03] Because of this who's to say
[00:09:06] What is actually the case?
[00:09:08] But the important thing is this is our farewell episode
[00:09:11] This is where we take the time to say goodbye to Nicholas Cage and close the book for now
[00:09:16] I mean we've talked with this in the last few episodes
[00:09:18] This podcast is about to evolve into something completely different as we choose a new actor to talk about and we're still figuring out what that is
[00:09:26] But I'm pretty confident that we'll return to Nicholas Cage at some point. Maybe you're not as confident as I am Mike
[00:09:32] maybe you're trying
[00:09:34] Maybe you're trying to like pull the rug out from under me being like no or never covering a cage movie again
[00:09:39] But you know, I think if we wait another few months, he'll probably have pumped out enough movies
[00:09:43] Keeps going for another couple of years
[00:09:46] I think you're right. Yeah, so, you know at some point we're gonna return to cage
[00:09:50] You know as bonus episodes here and there on the next podcast that we do whatever it is
[00:09:55] You know because he's got some 2019 movies that have come out this past year
[00:09:58] He's got some movies lined up for 2020 and so much beyond that
[00:10:02] But today we celebrate Nicholas Cage with a big blowout final episode
[00:10:07] We are reflecting upon the entire run of this podcast and Nicholas Cage's career
[00:10:11] We're gonna run down our top five worst Nicholas Cage movies
[00:10:15] And then our top five most insane cage moments
[00:10:19] And then our top five performances before finally getting into our countdown of the top ten
[00:10:25] Nicholas Cage movies ever and I'm excited to dig into that with you Mike
[00:10:29] So before we get into all our list making and things like that, what would you say you learned?
[00:10:37] I
[00:10:39] Think I learned patience most of all
[00:10:41] Just being able to enjoy you know the present and
[00:10:48] Accept something for what it is
[00:10:51] I
[00:10:52] Didn't know there was gonna be deep philosophical questions Mike. I would have prepared answers for these
[00:10:56] I mean, yeah, I don't know if they're deep philosophical questions
[00:10:59] But you know I want to reflect a little bit, you know
[00:11:01] We did just vote four years of our lives to watching every movie Nicholas Cage's ever started
[00:11:06] And you would think there'd be at least a slight bit of introspection like
[00:11:10] Why did we do this to ourselves kind of introspection
[00:11:13] I learned about a nouveau shamanism as an acting school, which is Cajun's I think invented
[00:11:21] new school of acting that he uses in the present day and I just love the the whole like philosophy behind that is just like
[00:11:28] Yeah, like whatever whatever works in the present like do it basically like don't just like go with the flow
[00:11:34] And I think there's a lot to learn there Mike. Yeah, I mean we've we've really we've
[00:11:39] Grappled with cage as performer and as a person and like his backstory and things that just go on in his life
[00:11:44] And I think that that kind of attitude per meets through a lot of his movies
[00:11:48] And perhaps permeates through this podcast in some in some sense or form
[00:11:52] But yeah, I mean just thinking back on just years and years of watching countless Nicholas Cage movies
[00:11:58] You know we had to take a hiatus for a little while or when I moved to Montana
[00:12:01] And you know even then we were still like we gotta come back. We gotta come back keep doing cage movies
[00:12:06] We can't do it
[00:12:07] The show must go on yeah, it's been a nice constant to know that like every two weeks
[00:12:12] I have to I have to watch another cage movie. It's weird
[00:12:15] It's weird to think that like you know next year, you know letterbox always does like you know your year review type thing
[00:12:21] And since you an email telling you what who was the director you watched the most and who's the actor that you watch the most
[00:12:26] And for the past four years
[00:12:28] Nicholas Cage was my most watched actor of the year now
[00:12:32] It's gonna be somebody else who knows
[00:12:35] Who it could be it just feels very weird and honestly, and there's a couple of those 2019 cage movies
[00:12:40] That we're not covering on this podcast until we get to a little bit later in our bonus episodes or whenever that goes down
[00:12:46] But like a couple of them are available on the game is on Prime now
[00:12:49] And I'm like man. I kind of want to watch them just like for
[00:12:52] Just for the completionist thing like I feel weird having not seen a Nicholas Cage movie at this point
[00:12:57] Yeah, I like on a letterbox you can go to something like an actor or director and like look at their
[00:13:03] Filmography and it shows you like percent watched and like Nicholas Cage is gonna hang it like 94%
[00:13:09] For so long
[00:13:11] Whatever it's at I forget what it's up to it's pretty close to done
[00:13:13] So you just want to be like man, I should just fucking watch Kill-Chain and get it over with
[00:13:20] Exactly
[00:13:20] But yeah, all right, so Nicholas Cage, you know
[00:13:23] This is our big tribute to you if you are listening to this podcast, which I assume he does
[00:13:28] Sure, I like to think it was cage listens to all the Nicholas Cage podcasts
[00:13:33] He subscribes to every page you're on
[00:13:35] Yes
[00:13:37] Our big tribute Nicholas Cage. Thank you for the last four insane years of this podcast
[00:13:43] They've driven us to depths of madness
[00:13:45] But also, you know has given us new insight into a lot of great stories and introduces some to some movies that we may not
[00:13:51] Have seen otherwise, which is also. Oh, yeah
[00:13:53] So we'll be talking about all that stuff throughout the episode right now
[00:13:57] We're gonna get into our top five worst Nicholas Cage movies of all time
[00:14:02] You are that shirt last year by the way, just so you know
[00:14:14] Pass them by
[00:14:16] In the center ring and their lines don't mean a thing. Why don't you let me try?
[00:14:30] I don't even have a song to sing
[00:14:35] All I know is la la la la la la la la
[00:14:40] Means I love you
[00:14:46] La la la la la la
[00:14:50] Means I love you
[00:14:54] All right, it's time for our top five worst Nicholas Cage movies of all time now Mike
[00:14:59] I want to lead off with this
[00:15:00] Because you know, I don't want to dwell too much on the negative
[00:15:03] You know, I want to you know talk about a lot of the big stuff that we really loved in this podcast
[00:15:07] But you know, I can't not acknowledge that his podcast also drove us insane a lot of the time
[00:15:14] So I feel like you know would be fun to talk about the five like the five movies that
[00:15:18] Were most maddening to us over the course in the last four years
[00:15:22] I've got a few honorable mentions that I'll mention
[00:15:24] I'll do my out of mentions after we do our whole list just because I don't want to step on any of your toes if you
[00:15:30] have
[00:15:31] Overlap that kind of thing and a disclaimer. We neither of us know
[00:15:35] What's on the others list for any of these lists?
[00:15:38] Right by the way
[00:15:39] So there could be some overlap there could be a lot of overlap because I think we like a lot of the
[00:15:43] Same movies and dislike a lot of the same movies
[00:15:45] Yeah, but you know, you have slightly different tastes than I do in some areas
[00:15:48] So who knows who knows where the list could lie
[00:15:51] We also didn't set up any kind of like stipulation for what qualifies for what?
[00:15:56] So who knows anything's possible is what I'm saying exactly
[00:16:00] All right
[00:16:01] So we're gonna start with you Mike will go like you then me then you then me and how we jet
[00:16:05] How we generally do this list kind of format. So what's your number five worst Nicholas Cage movie of all time?
[00:16:11] So I brought that up that we never talked about stipulations about what counts because my number five pick for worst movie is never on Tuesday
[00:16:18] It has Nicholas Cage for 30 seconds
[00:16:21] How you doing?
[00:16:24] Anybody hurt no everybody's fine
[00:16:28] I guess somebody left. Oh man, that's alright got everything under control
[00:16:45] Or one minute well one of his best cameo performances because he did have a bunch of those
[00:16:51] Yes, just the movie is so fucking dumb and problematic now in the lens of 2019
[00:16:57] Because we were we reviewed that I think it's 2016. It's pretty early or maybe
[00:17:02] 17 quite remember
[00:17:04] That was I want to say that was like 89 that would have been like yeah, that was probably 2016 review that movie
[00:17:10] Yeah, so we did we know we didn't have but we weren't fully formed adults yet
[00:17:14] I'd say even though we graduated college by them
[00:17:23] Yeah, yeah, I mean this movie is just bad though come on
[00:17:25] I went back and re-listen to our episode after the like the meme came back of that cameo performance
[00:17:32] Recently that was earlier this year. I think
[00:17:34] Yes, and we both weren't too hot on it then but we really could have come down harder. I think
[00:17:40] We actually did
[00:17:43] Number five worst movie. Yeah, I feel like I heard me never on Tuesday. Like it was definitely bad
[00:17:48] Don't get me wrong. It was not a good yeah
[00:17:49] I don't think it's like nearly as bad as a lot of the things that we've watched on this podcast
[00:17:54] I feel like I remember it like you know
[00:17:57] It is like you know obviously problematic today
[00:18:00] But you know, it's like a mostly kind of harmless, you know like dumb 80s comedy
[00:18:06] From what from what I remember like again
[00:18:08] It's been several years since I've seen the movie and all I really remember about the movies the Nicholas Cage scene because
[00:18:13] Obviously, it's the scene that we focused on the most and it had a weird resurgence earlier this year where yeah
[00:18:18] Where the Nicholas Cage scene kind of popped up which was kind of cool to see that kind of return to the service
[00:18:24] Yeah, the cage he keeps on going. Yeah, I mean this was I'll be honest
[00:18:28] The five worst might have been the hardest category
[00:18:31] Only because there's so many like obvious choices, which I'm sure we'll get into in the runners up where it's like
[00:18:37] I don't want to put that on a list like yeah, we all know about that
[00:18:41] but you know
[00:18:43] This was tough to narrow down five of the worst movies. That's all I'm saying
[00:18:47] Okay, fair enough. Yeah, never on Tuesday your number five worst Nicholas Cage movie
[00:18:52] All right my number five on the list also one that it was cages barely in
[00:18:57] Interesting but it's not never on Tuesday. It is from 2001 episode 36 of this podcast Christmas Carol the movie
[00:19:06] I don't have much time
[00:19:11] Little has changed in these chambers since my departure
[00:19:15] I
[00:19:18] Come to warn you. It's this about the foresight account
[00:19:22] I assure you Jacob everything is being intended to in accordance with your wishes. I mean what you would have wished
[00:19:38] I did it Ebenezer it is my
[00:19:45] Achievement I wear the chains of my ignorance
[00:19:49] The chains I forged in life
[00:19:53] link by link
[00:19:55] yard by yard
[00:19:58] I am do
[00:20:01] I'll be honest. I straight up forgot about them
[00:20:04] You and the rest of the world and probably Nicholas Cage also, I would guess hmm
[00:20:09] Yeah cage is in Christmas Carol the movie for about five minutes
[00:20:14] Playing Jacob Marley doing a very fun ghost voice
[00:20:19] That kind of thing
[00:20:21] But the animation is really bad, you know, it's an animated Christmas Carol movie
[00:20:24] It's like 80 minutes the animation is rough and it somehow takes you know, I talked about this in the review
[00:20:29] I think Chris a Christmas Carol is a basically perfect story
[00:20:32] That's why it's been adapted so many different times and so many different ways and you can tell it
[00:20:35] You know, it's a pretty straightforward thing and this movie somehow makes a Christmas Carol feel very rushed and incomplete
[00:20:41] It makes the Scrooge directly responsible for Tiny Tim's death
[00:20:46] He pours like a bucket of cold water on him which caused him to get pneumonia
[00:20:49] Yeah, which is pretty wild
[00:20:51] It takes like a weird detour where we're just following the development of an orphanage that's going on
[00:20:55] In the movie for some reason and also most of the story is told from the perspective of a mouse
[00:21:00] Like yeah, it's like a mouse hanging around doing its mouse thing and that's basically it
[00:21:05] It does feature Kate Winslet though
[00:21:07] There's another one who I'm sure barely remembers this movie existed except for the fact that she actually sang the movies theme song too
[00:21:12] So yeah, that's something I guess but yeah
[00:21:15] Christmas Carol the movie is my number five pick for the worst Nicholas Cajun movie of all time. I like it
[00:21:20] My my number four movie. This is an oldie, but goodie Mike
[00:21:25] Yeah, tell me if you remember this one
[00:21:27] Tempo de Uchidera
[00:21:29] That's what I was time to kill. Yeah, that's one of my honorable mentions actually. Oh nice or dishonorable mentions
[00:21:36] Yeah, this is a Italian a World War one movie. I think our world war two. I honestly don't even remember
[00:21:42] I think World War one. I feel like we're the one right? I think it's World War one where I mean at least the version we found
[00:21:49] Was clearly in Italian
[00:21:52] Translated to English through Google translate. I forget exactly what it was actually. Yes, English to Italian back to English
[00:21:58] There was a couple layers with subtitles. It was very weird. It was a very difficult movie to find in the first place
[00:22:05] Like it wasn't available anywhere. You couldn't stream anywhere. You couldn't get the disc anywhere
[00:22:09] So it was one of the very few movies that I like I don't really pirate a lot of stuff
[00:22:12] I had to use your kind of techniques and
[00:22:16] Alleged techniques alleged techniques and we had to figure out a way to watch that movie which we eventually did but the version that
[00:22:23] We found
[00:22:24] Yeah, I think was in English
[00:22:27] Dubbed into Italian
[00:22:28] Yeah, but then it had and then it was dubbed back into English and then I had English subtitles English subtitles like broken English
[00:22:34] Yeah, that it was very weird. It was a very
[00:22:37] And I mean that that was actually one of the only enjoyable things about the movie because you can kind of like laugh at some
[00:22:43] Of the broken English stuff that's like kind of taking place. Yeah
[00:22:47] But yeah, not a very good movie. No. Yeah, I mean pretty terrible
[00:22:50] I don't really quite remember anything about it
[00:22:53] I mean that's gonna be the problem with a lot of these movies because they're also from four years ago
[00:22:57] We watched them, but I remember it being I think not particularly engaging in any way and also featured a like brutal rape scene
[00:23:04] I remember us being very shocked by that in this movie. Yeah, so for that reason fuck this movie
[00:23:11] Yeah fair enough ten boot of Ujjidaere slash time to kill good news is if you've never heard of it
[00:23:16] You'll never hear of it again after this
[00:23:18] Yeah, there you go
[00:23:21] All right, my number four movie is the movie that broke me on this podcast
[00:23:26] This is from 2007 episode 49 of the complete works and that is a blockbuster that Nicholas Cage starred in called next
[00:23:34] mentalists
[00:23:35] Magicians illusionists
[00:23:38] You'd be shocked to know that sometimes
[00:23:40] Not often but sometimes it's the real deal
[00:23:45] Masquerading as an act
[00:23:48] hiding behind a few $50 tricks
[00:23:50] hiding in plain sight
[00:23:53] Because if the magician doesn't do that
[00:23:55] The alternative is impossible for others to live with
[00:24:00] Anyway, Wednesday night at the back page doesn't pay very well
[00:24:03] So I gamble but I don't play against other people only against the house
[00:24:10] So
[00:24:13] No mega jackpots no long shots
[00:24:16] The idea is to go unnoticed that way I can keep coming back
[00:24:23] I'm not a God. I can't see everyone's future only my own and only within two minutes
[00:24:32] Except for when I saw her
[00:24:33] But we'll come back to that. Oh nice
[00:24:37] This movie if you go back and listen to that episode
[00:24:40] Which I don't know if you have in a while Mike if you go back and listen to that one
[00:24:44] You can hear both of us but me specifically going insane in real time
[00:24:50] I remember as we try to like make sense of the ending of this movie. It's you know, it's a potentially cool
[00:24:57] sci-fi setup. It's cage. He's a magician
[00:25:00] In Las Vegas and he can see like five seconds into the future
[00:25:04] I can figure out how to manipulate the world and the stuff that he wants to happen
[00:25:07] And then it's completely undone by the dumbest ending
[00:25:11] That maybe any movie has ever had it's the back half the movie just didn't happen
[00:25:18] You know, and I still get mad when I think about it
[00:25:22] The entire back half the movie is revealed to be just one scenario that Nicholas Cage has gone through
[00:25:28] And you know like his weird future
[00:25:30] Technique powers or whatever and that's I mean the rest of the movies like dumb like you know
[00:25:34] There's a terrible romance with the Nicholas Cage and Jessica Biel who's like 30 years younger than him or something
[00:25:42] And you know Julia and more looks like she doesn't want to be there and all that stuff. It's a really bad movie
[00:25:47] It's enjoyably bad
[00:25:49] I think for a while until you get to the very end and it becomes infuriating
[00:25:54] Yes, like even just talking about it now
[00:25:56] I'm like bringing up all those feelings again. I'm like man this movie like destroy like I was
[00:26:00] livid watching
[00:26:03] The first time and see that ending it broke me. It's completely broke me
[00:26:07] I do remember you just like being totally unwound by that movie
[00:26:13] Your whole perception of reality was destroyed
[00:26:17] And it was great
[00:26:20] I think one of our most fun episodes of the show to listen to
[00:26:24] Us getting destroyed by that movie. But yeah
[00:26:27] All right, Mike what's your number three pick for top five worst Nicholas Cage movies?
[00:26:31] My number three pick continuing a trend of Italian war movies. Sorry Nicholas Cage
[00:26:36] Is Captain Corelli's mandolin? Oh boy, that's also one of my honorable mentions
[00:26:42] Perfect if I do that or start getting confused about when I'm supposed to come in and that in a concert
[00:26:48] All would be a disaster. Yeah, this is I believe World War two movies this time
[00:26:54] And cages an Italian soldier. I think and or maybe he's
[00:26:59] American I don't even remember but he's like goes to this. He's he's Italian you can tell by his accent in the movie
[00:27:06] Which is you know like he played a game of Mario
[00:27:14] Peter just because you have a mustache doesn't make you Italian
[00:27:19] But that's what Nicholas Cage did without the mustache
[00:27:23] Yeah, and there's like a very slow long drawn out like grand romance with capital G capital R
[00:27:30] Cage and this like woman in the village that whose house they're occupying or some shit
[00:27:35] I don't even quite remember it and it's just boring and long and who cares. That's it
[00:27:43] No, I agree with you
[00:27:44] I mean Captain cross mandolin
[00:27:45] It's weird it's it kept itself out of my bottom five because there is like some nice production value to it and things like that fair
[00:27:51] It's a nice looking. It's a nice looking movie
[00:27:54] But I like it was my like worst cage movie for a long time because it's boring
[00:27:59] Like it's just there's nothing to it takes forever
[00:28:03] It really feels like you know, it's trying to capitalize on a couple of different like Oscar Beatty type movies that came out around the same time
[00:28:10] It's like a mix of like Shakespeare and love and saving Private Ryan kind of thing like yeah
[00:28:16] But just as shitty as that combo sounds this movie's words
[00:28:21] So yeah, it's captain Correlli's mandolin
[00:28:24] And you know worth watching like YouTube clips to see Nicholas Cage's accent in the movie because it is a delight
[00:28:29] But otherwise yeah, not not really a worth your time
[00:28:34] My number three movie is a one that I think might actually be the most boring movie that we
[00:28:40] We reviewed in this podcast
[00:28:42] Interesting, you know up until like up until this movie
[00:28:46] It was Captain Correlli's mandolin for me who had the title of the most boring Nicholas Cage movie
[00:28:51] But that's and that's when we reviewed
[00:28:54] 2011 season of the witch
[00:28:57] Which is episode 58 of this podcast and you know the first five minutes of this movie kind of awesome
[00:29:05] It's it's Nicholas Cage and Ron Perlman and they're fighting in the crusades together
[00:29:10] And they're like badass soldiers doing their thing
[00:29:12] And then the rest of the movie is just this incredibly dull D&D campaign
[00:29:17] With no fun. There's no fun allowed and how dare of the wish
[00:29:22] It's very it's very weird because it has a pretty like horror
[00:29:26] Premise and then a cage talked about how it paid homage to the hammer horror movies and that kind of thing Christopher Lee even appears in the movie briefly
[00:29:33] And Claire Foy shows up in a very early role for her as the witch
[00:29:36] But it kind of like shoots itself in the foot by making it be like this thing where it's like
[00:29:40] Okay, they have to escort this girl who they keep saying is a witch
[00:29:42] But it's like unclear whether she's a witch and it's like, oh, why are you treating this girl this way?
[00:29:47] She's just a girl and that kind of thing and then she turns out to actually be a witch
[00:29:51] It's like well, all right
[00:29:56] All right, I guess yeah
[00:29:59] So season of the witch it's it like it's not like none of it is as fun as that sounds. It's very dour movie
[00:30:05] There's no like camp value to it. It's just it's rough. It's a rough movie for sure
[00:30:08] Yeah, and it's pretty funny when you said season of the witch my first actual thought was I thought Mike likes sorcerers apprentice
[00:30:15] But I got those mixed up
[00:30:18] Explained what movie it was I did like sorcerers apprentice with with all its one republic songs and everything. It was great. Yeah
[00:30:25] Stay tuned potentially
[00:30:29] Your number one cage movie of all time is the sorcerers
[00:30:34] Twist the sorcerers apprentice all along. Yeah, the true great cage movie
[00:30:40] What's your number two worst cage movie of all time my number two worst cage movie of all time?
[00:30:46] I set up a joke in my brain and then didn't do it and just laughed. Sorry everyone
[00:30:50] My number two movie of all time is trapped in paradise. I know how your mind works
[00:30:56] You know exactly what you're doing
[00:30:59] the whole time you
[00:31:02] stand there
[00:31:04] With this who me
[00:31:07] expression
[00:31:08] On your face
[00:31:11] Trapped in paradise. I think was that my
[00:31:13] Honorable mentions it was not no it did not make my own my dishonorable mentions, but that is a bad movie
[00:31:19] It's a very bad movie. It's a comedy starring Dana Carvey and John love it right and Nick cage and the cage yep
[00:31:28] No, imagine what Nick is not even in it. That's how fucking bad it is. No, I just hate this movie so much
[00:31:33] I know wedge in there somehow
[00:31:35] Yeah, and I once again don't really remember this movie
[00:31:38] I think it's like a bank robbery company right or like one of those kind of things
[00:31:43] Yeah, they're like three criminals who rob a bank in like a small town and I'm like
[00:31:47] Yeah, something like that and then shanigans ensue
[00:31:50] Make an amic from Twin Peaks is in it too. She's like yeah
[00:31:53] That's like a love interest for Nicholas Cage. Yeah fuck this movie. I can't believe you remembered all that
[00:31:57] That's crazy
[00:31:58] It'll count as my Christmas pick, you know, it's Christmas
[00:32:02] It is the Christmas yeah, that's one of those things I've seen people like talk about I think one of the great things about
[00:32:08] Being a Christmas movie is that no matter if you are good or bad people will just watch you every year until yeah at the end of time
[00:32:14] And so people like I know people who watch trapped in paradise like every year. I'm like, how do you do?
[00:32:21] I know it's insane. It's absolutely insane. But yeah trapped in paradise good pick for your number two like
[00:32:27] Now my number two is a much more recent Nicholas Cage movie from 2016 and that is USS Indianapolis men of courage
[00:32:36] Wow
[00:32:37] Yeah, good back great choice. Yeah
[00:32:39] That is an episode 76 of this podcast
[00:32:42] And I think this one's worse than a lot of the other ones just because this could be a really interesting movie
[00:32:48] Like this this is like a solid premise right there. It's a World War two movie
[00:32:52] I feel like it's been a recurring theme on our worst list so far
[00:32:56] It's a World War two movie with Nicholas Cage kind of leading the
[00:32:59] Was the Marines or the Navy or whatever
[00:33:02] And it's the true story of the USS Indianapolis who delivered the atomic bomb to Japan so the US could use it
[00:33:08] And then their ship got attacked by sharks and they went down
[00:33:12] You may have heard this story in jaws because quint talks about this whole thing in jaws in that movie jaws
[00:33:17] Quint is like a survivor of the USS Indianapolis and in jaws quint tells the whole story about it
[00:33:23] And it's way more compelling in that two minutes than the entire like two hour runtime of USS Indianapolis men of courage
[00:33:30] He does the whole thing right there. He really does he like every thematic point this movie makes in two hours
[00:33:35] Jaws does in two minutes and it's like man. Why couldn't I just been watching the Jaws this entire time?
[00:33:40] Right, you know, it's just a very dull movie and it's you know kind of
[00:33:45] Just saddled with it's like really like dumb kind of teen romance plot
[00:33:48] And then you know the movie kind of just
[00:33:51] Like stops like about three quarters of the way through and then it becomes like a trial movie and it just doesn't really work
[00:33:56] It's us at Indianapolis Metta courage one of the worst movies that it was cage has ever started and that's my number two pick
[00:34:02] I like it now to be totally honest. I'm really nervous about my number one pick
[00:34:06] Really for my yeah, except might pull an audible and I already forgot I had to look up what the title of the movie is
[00:34:12] And I already forgot it. That's how bad it is
[00:34:16] You're the movie you hated the most for this podcast the worst movie on this podcast you don't remember the name of it
[00:34:22] No, okay, so the number one movie I have written down as the number one worst movie is
[00:34:27] Zandali, but I don't feel off that I don't know if that like doesn't feel right because that is such a weird
[00:34:34] artistic movie for cage and it's so like fucking weird and
[00:34:37] I kind of wanted to cross it out and write down kiss of death with Nicholas Cage and
[00:34:45] Michael no, what's David Caruso?
[00:34:47] Whoa, wait your foot kiss of death as number one worst cage movie. I like that movie
[00:34:52] Did I I don't remember I haven't seen it in forever. I liked that movie. I feel like that was pretty good. That's pretty good movie
[00:34:59] Okay, I'll leave it as Zandali Colin check the minutes on my opinion of kiss of death and let me know get back to me
[00:35:06] There's the problem with this with this doing this is like we said we haven't seen some of these movies in four three plus years
[00:35:14] I don't have time to go back and watch the first 40 movies of cages
[00:35:18] Photography again, you can at least go back and re-listen to the podcast. I could have done that
[00:35:22] I did this there's a public record of our opinions of cage
[00:35:26] No nervous no, it's fine. It's honestly Zandali is a good pick for the worst. Okay?
[00:35:32] It's I'll pick from what I remember it was a pretty bad movie
[00:35:36] You know erotic thriller Nicholas Cage and judge Reinholtz the two yeah to most erotic people
[00:35:43] In the history of 90s cinema
[00:35:46] I think that was actually cage's first direct to video movie. I'm pretty sure
[00:35:50] Interesting if I recall correctly from that episode. Yeah, um, but yeah, no, that's a good pick for you
[00:35:55] No boy it does have a great cage freak out towards the end though
[00:36:38] That's that's why I was like maybe I shouldn't put it on here
[00:36:41] There's also them like having like tangoing or some shit
[00:36:44] I remember like the big climax of them facing off over this woman is like cage and judge Reinholtz
[00:36:49] Like tangoing on a dock
[00:36:51] I mean like yeah, any like drowns judge Reinholtz or some shit. I think I don't even remember
[00:36:56] Yeah, it's all come back to me now also Steve Bouchette
[00:37:00] What the fuck this movie is great
[00:37:05] This is why we had to do this episode so Mike could have a reassessment on Zandali
[00:37:08] Oh my god, I gotta rework my top 10
[00:37:12] Cross office number one worst is number one best
[00:37:16] Zandali the true masterpiece of Nicholas Cage's career
[00:37:21] What is your number one then?
[00:37:22] All right, my number one worst
[00:37:25] Nicholas Cage movie. This is a movie, you know, when we watch the movie
[00:37:29] I'm not sure if I thought at the time that it was the worst movie Nicholas Cage has starred in
[00:37:34] Um, but it was one of the ones that upset me the most maybe not as much as the ending of next
[00:37:39] Okay, but I think it was because I was lied to going into the movie and that is uh, a movie called
[00:37:45] Outcast from 2014
[00:37:47] Yes
[00:37:48] Holy shit episode 70 of this show
[00:37:51] Uh, which you know the movie is billed as Hayden christensen and Nicholas Cage
[00:37:56] It might even be the reverse it might even be Nicholas Cage and Hayden christensen
[00:38:00] Does Nicholas Cage is the big star of the movie?
[00:38:02] Nicholas Cage doesn't show up until like the last 20 minutes
[00:38:06] Of the right uh most of it is Hayden christensen
[00:38:09] Uh, and in case you haven't like figured it out from the star wars prequels Hayden christensen not the most compelling screen presence
[00:38:19] Uh, you know, I'm sure he can be a good actor in the right situation, but like that situation hasn't come around yet and
[00:38:25] You know Nicholas Cage to his credit when he does show up. He's pretty bonkers. He's pretty fun. He's got snake hands
[00:38:31] Um, yeah, which we which has been like a recurring joke of this podcast like hey snake hands
[00:38:35] He brought his own snakes. He brought
[00:38:38] He was not telling anybody. Yeah, he was what he suggested
[00:38:40] Hey, I'm gonna put snakes on my hands and they were like, all right your Nicholas Cage do what you do
[00:38:44] um
[00:38:45] But you know, he's only in like 15 20 minutes of the movie and you know, it's it's just
[00:38:49] Everything leading up to that is so boring and even when he is there like it's just it's too little too late essentially
[00:38:55] It's one of I think the most boring movies we've discussed and probably the most inconsequential
[00:38:59] Of Nicholas Cage's career. It feels like something he filmed in a couple of days and then bats kind of
[00:39:05] Yeah, which a lot of which a lot of the late period cage movies feel like that
[00:39:08] But this one even more so because he literally is in like the end of the movie and that's it
[00:39:13] Yeah
[00:39:15] So yeah outcast is my number one pick for the worst Nicholas Cage movie of all time
[00:39:19] Uh, I think these are both good lists because they actually didn't overlap at all. We had different opinions
[00:39:23] I'm impressed
[00:39:24] The worst cage movies are uh, but yeah, you you did mention
[00:39:28] Uh, Captain Trillias Mandolin and Tempura Idriderre, which I had my honorable mentions
[00:39:32] I also wanted to throw out my other honorable mentions, which were the humanity bureau
[00:39:36] Uh from 2018, uh, I think or maybe 2017
[00:39:39] 211 which was uh
[00:39:42] From 2018 also very inconsequential movie, uh and the runner from 2015
[00:39:48] Wow, but he did run a bunch. Oh, he ran
[00:39:52] Let it not be said that Nicholas Cage did not run and the runner
[00:39:56] Yeah, yeah, uh, I didn't like write down honorable mentions
[00:39:59] But my the things that I um why this was so hard was I didn't want to put like seeking justice and stolen
[00:40:06] And like you know that that era of and you know pay the ghost even though that movie was pretty fun
[00:40:11] But like that era of I will go to bad for stolen also. I like stolen
[00:40:15] I almost said trespass, but I think
[00:40:17] I also kind of like trust me
[00:40:19] Yeah further consideration. I actually think trespasses a blast
[00:40:24] Yeah, like it's stupid as hell, but it's a lot of fun. Uh, yeah, which I feel like you know
[00:40:28] These movies that we're talking about like trespass like stolen
[00:40:31] I feel like at a certain point we just kind of got like locked into a Stockholm syndrome type thing
[00:40:35] We're like, you know a couple years from now
[00:40:37] We watched them without the framing of this podcast or whatever. I feel like we might have different reactions to them
[00:40:42] Like why are we watching this garbage? But because we're like trapped in this Nicholas Cage funnel for the last four years
[00:40:48] Uh, you know, we're like hey stolen pretty good
[00:40:51] I think I think uh my favorite moment on the podcast
[00:40:54] I think was it stolen that has a
[00:40:57] Plots andopsis that uses the phrase seeking justice
[00:41:00] Where the title shows up in the plot of plots andopsis of another movie
[00:41:04] And that's my favorite thing of all time
[00:41:06] That was pretty great
[00:41:09] All right, so that's our list of the worst Nicholas Cage movies of all time now
[00:41:13] Uh before we get to the best we're gonna do a couple of like cage performance things and first
[00:41:18] We're going to talk about the five most insane Nicholas Cage moments
[00:41:49] Next you got in the Belmonts
[00:41:51] I wouldn't count on it
[00:41:53] Oh come on, wish you enthusiasm
[00:42:09] He really has got a cute in the
[00:42:11] Oh yeah
[00:42:15] He really loves you too, you're so lucky
[00:42:17] He's always telling Walter how wonderful you are
[00:42:19] He is? Yeah
[00:42:23] All right, so now it's time for our top five most insane Nicholas Cage moments and Nicholas Cage
[00:42:28] One of our favorite performers. I think he would have to be at this point
[00:42:32] Yeah
[00:42:32] If he wasn't when we started this podcast
[00:42:34] He has to be by the end of it. Uh, and one of the things we love about Nicholas Cage
[00:42:37] You know, he's able to do a lot of really interesting things as an actor
[00:42:40] He can play really subtle new on stuff
[00:42:42] But the thing that people know him more for
[00:42:45] Is that he gets insane and over the top and stuff like that when he gets into some of his roles
[00:42:50] And so I wanted to kind of do a countdown of our top five favorite most insane
[00:42:54] Nicholas Cage moments. I have some honorable mentions for this one as well that I'll throw in at the end
[00:42:58] Mike let's start with you. What's your number five most insane cage moment or performance?
[00:43:03] Uh, my number five is just overall the entire movie of wicker man
[00:43:08] This is the whole thing
[00:43:11] I guess specifically anything with bear suit cage
[00:43:14] Yeah
[00:43:14] We want to highlight one thing
[00:43:16] That or the the punching of all the ladies
[00:43:19] Just everything about wicker man because I feel like we've talked we talked about it in that episode
[00:43:23] That is kind of the birth of the cage meme
[00:43:26] Per you know the as we know him today
[00:43:30] Kind of thing and I think it deserves some more recognition Mike. I agree with you
[00:43:34] Yeah, I mean the not the bees scene is iconic and not even in the movie. That's how iconic that scene is
[00:43:38] You know, it's yes
[00:43:40] That's a scene that was in the director's cut at the wicker man wasn't even in the theatrical cut
[00:43:43] And it caught on the internet and people ended up
[00:43:46] You know doing the not the bees memes and things like that and it became the thing the cage was known for for a long time
[00:43:51] Just that kind of insane over the top stuff and the wicker man was right there for the internet
[00:43:55] So yeah, good choice and and we duped ourselves by be like no, let's watch the theatrical version
[00:44:00] Which it's not even in there. We're fucked up
[00:44:03] Yeah, I know we didn't realize it
[00:44:04] So we had to go watch the not the bee scene like afterwards just to refresh our memory
[00:44:08] Not that it's not already burned into our mind like so many bees
[00:44:11] Um in my eyes. It's in my eyes
[00:44:14] They're in my eyes his eyes are closed when he's saying that but the bees are in his eyes
[00:44:37] My number five most insane Nicholas Cage Malvin is the first 15 20 minutes of face off
[00:44:43] Nice
[00:44:45] Which you know, if you haven't seen face off a go watch face off. It's amazing
[00:44:50] And be you know, what I love about face off is that you know the first 15 20 minutes
[00:44:54] Cage gets to play the bad guy and then the rest of the movie he's the good guy
[00:44:57] But in that first 15 minutes or whatever when he's the bad guy, he's incredible
[00:45:02] I mean, that's Kate, you know cage going in the choir. He's grabbing like underage girls and he's shouting
[00:45:07] He's making weird faces and he's doing like his weird head dance and he's jumping around and you know
[00:45:12] Going from there
[00:45:12] He's dancing and he's double wielding golden pistols as he walks out of the car with his cape flowing in the wind
[00:45:17] And there's the the line I could eat a peach for hours and all that stuff
[00:45:21] It's amazing the first 15 20 minutes face off. He's great in the rest of face off
[00:45:25] That's a lot of insane stuff there too
[00:45:27] I was considering the moment where he wakes up and his face is gone and he
[00:45:31] And he's like smoking a cigarette and he's telling the doctor to put another face on him
[00:45:35] I have to go down to that too, but the first 15 20 minutes is just pure
[00:45:39] unbridled cage insanity
[00:45:41] And so I had to go with uh that those parts of face off. That's fair
[00:45:46] All right, Mike. What's your number four pick for your most insane cage moment?
[00:45:49] Uh my number four pick is another one. That's just the entire movie now as I'm thinking as I'm speaking
[00:45:55] I'm realizing this is less specifically cage
[00:45:59] Okay, but more the entire movie of left behind
[00:46:03] Just the whole
[00:46:05] Because cage is the straight guy in this movie, but the whole fucking movie is so insane
[00:46:11] And I loved it. It was so much fucking fun in the worst way
[00:46:16] It really was. Yeah, I remember watching like I actually almost put that on my top five too
[00:46:19] But I took it off because you know cage is really the straight guy in it and I want to be cage specific
[00:46:24] But that's I'm glad you brought it up because that was a great pick that movie's fucking nuts. It's so crazy
[00:46:31] That like every like even without all the left behind stuff just the way characters interact with each other
[00:46:36] It's like no human has ever
[00:46:38] Spoken to another human in this movie
[00:46:41] I remember the um
[00:46:43] The scene where the kids like oh they have like a 60 off sale or 90 off sale game stop
[00:46:48] Let's go and I was like game. Yeah, we'll never have a 90 off sale. What are you doing kid?
[00:46:53] What like 80 year old wrote this script?
[00:46:56] Yeah, the daughter is almost hit by a plane multiple times like when they crash
[00:47:02] It's so dodges out of the way of a plane and then has to dodge a bus or something like that like yeah
[00:47:08] It's nuts. So yeah left behind great choice. I'm very glad that it made your list
[00:47:13] Yeah, if I take anything away from this four years
[00:47:17] It's left behind that I'm gonna remember
[00:47:21] Yeah, that's a movie that I would like to like you know
[00:47:23] Just put on like we have a bunch of friends over and you're drinking or something like that and just like guys
[00:47:26] We should watch left behind and they're like no we don't want to watch left behind
[00:47:29] That's some like lame Jesus movie or whatever and you're like no guys trust me
[00:47:34] This movie snuts
[00:47:36] Uh, yes. All right now for my number four pick for the most insane Nicholas Cage moments
[00:47:41] I'm not sure if this is the most insane, but it's one that I like a lot
[00:47:44] It's it's probably because it's kind of couched within a pretty family-friendly cage movie
[00:47:48] And that is his big freak out in England in national treasure two book of secret
[00:47:53] Oh nice. Well, that's fine. That's what you want. Let's have it out right now
[00:47:58] Ah, so subtle. Oh, let me guess. It's the wrong time
[00:48:03] It's the wrong place. I'm wrong again
[00:48:06] Wrong about us wrong about Thomas Gates wrong that you'd like the queen hand chair
[00:48:11] You're wrong to assume I'd like the chair. You see you see everybody listen to this
[00:48:15] This is more interesting than that. She thinks that even when I'm right. I'm wrong. Isn't that right?
[00:48:21] Advocate just because I answer a question quickly doesn't make it wrong
[00:48:26] Not if the right answer is something we need to figure out together as a couple
[00:48:30] That's what couples do. Sure. You and you miss. She's taken out. Oh now look what you've done
[00:48:35] You brought the little barbies down on us. You take the missus outside. I'm staying right here
[00:48:41] And
[00:48:43] Good afternoon, sir. Hello
[00:48:46] Been drinking away just a nip just popped down to the pub for a pint bit of all right
[00:48:51] Going to arrest the man for that
[00:48:53] Going to detain a blighter for enjoying his whiskey. It's all right. That's enough. So beggars are mashed
[00:48:57] So bonzled squeak small peel pie sir. Haggars. That's it. Dismount the bannister
[00:49:10] That was brilliant
[00:49:12] Uh where he gets into kind of a fake fight with Diane Kruver and he's like shouting at her and she's shouting back
[00:49:17] And then he like slides down the banister and he's like yelling at the uh
[00:49:22] Yelling at the um the guards and he's like back as a mash
[00:49:25] Haggars like that
[00:49:27] Great cage stuff right there. So yeah, I mean he's pretty like you know
[00:49:30] He's fun action hero cage and the national treasure movies and he doesn't go too crazy in those movies
[00:49:34] Uh except for the plots of those movies are insane. So they took they fit the cage mold
[00:49:39] Um, but that that freak out national treasure too is one that I just remember like like really loving this time around
[00:49:44] When I got to watch it for the podcast
[00:49:46] My number three is the also the entire movie of vampires kiss
[00:49:52] Yeah fair enough
[00:49:55] I mean, I guess the highlight the you know the obvious choice is the the alphabet scene where he like
[00:50:00] derangely yells the entire alphabet uh at his secretary
[00:50:05] Uh running through the running through the streets of new york saying i'm a vampire. I'm a vampire
[00:50:10] Being chased around when he's covered in blood and shit. Um, yeah vampires kiss is a fucking crazy movie and I forget
[00:50:18] What magazine there was a whole article recently like last year maybe last winter. Oh really? I think uh
[00:50:24] Yeah, like an interview with the screenwriter about making that movie. It was the same guy that wrote
[00:50:30] Oh, shit. It's a scorsese movie
[00:50:33] Oh, man, I forget. I want to say mean streets, but I don't think it's mean streets
[00:50:37] I I don't know what you're talking about. You don't know. Okay. That's fine. I thought you would know with your
[00:50:41] I I I feel like if I looked it up, I would see it and I remember that sounds that sounds familiar
[00:50:46] Like the writer doing a scorsese movie
[00:50:48] But like it's been forever since I watched vampire's kiss and it's been forever since I've listened to that episode
[00:50:51] So I don't remember. Yeah, I'm sure we brought it up when we talked about it in the episode. I'm sure but uh
[00:50:57] Yeah, the the just is it was a screenwriter his first big movie that he wrote was a scorsese movie and he followed it up with vampire's kiss
[00:51:04] And uh and like how it was just absolutely bonkers and cage was like
[00:51:09] Everyone told him not to do it like his agent and his everybody and he was like, fuck you
[00:51:13] I want to do this movie and like he like seriously. I think he even still now considers it like one of his
[00:51:17] Big biggest best performances
[00:51:20] Right. Yeah, so I find that article it was within the last year or so
[00:51:24] And it was really crazy and wild at about like all the behind the scenes stuff
[00:51:29] And how cage insisted on actually eating the cockroaches that they got for him to eat and
[00:51:33] Like uh, yeah, so that's that's vampire's kiss. That's my number three pick
[00:51:37] I feel like it's a hot take to put it that low on my crazy performances list, but
[00:51:42] It's number three. I think you're right. It is kind of a bit of a hot take
[00:51:44] I'm looking up the uh, the writer right now. Joseph minion is the writer. Oh, he wrote after hours, which makes so much after hours
[00:51:50] That makes so much better than it's actually
[00:51:52] Yeah, I mean a after hours perfect movie also um and vampire's kiss also perfect movie
[00:51:58] Wow spicy
[00:51:59] Spicy I love vampire's kiss genuinely like didn't make my top 10 for best cage movies. It is in my honorable mentions
[00:52:06] I love that
[00:52:08] But yeah, vampire's kiss great choice
[00:52:11] And a pretty fairly obvious one, but it's also it might pop up with my list a little bit later too
[00:52:15] So we'll see we'll see
[00:52:17] My number three pick is actually a tie. I'm cheating this time mic. Um, oh, yeah, I'm cheating a little bit. It's a tie
[00:52:24] Um, because they're two different sex scenes in nicholas cage career
[00:52:29] And yeah based on our previous episode you can probably guess which two those are
[00:52:35] But it's a tie between the sex scene and drive angry in which nicholas cage
[00:52:40] Is having sex while in the middle of a gunfight also chugging whiskey and chomping out a big cigar. It's incredible
[00:52:47] Uh, never stopped having sex the entire time. Oh, yeah. Oh, baby
[00:52:52] What is you fucking naked? I never just row before gunfire
[00:52:56] And then the sex scene in between worlds which we just reviewed on the podcast last week
[00:53:01] Uh in which nicholas cage picks up a book called memories by nicholas cage
[00:53:07] And and starts reading out of it
[00:53:09] Uh, both of these scenes are fucking insane for different reasons, you know
[00:53:15] One's one is much more elaborate than the other and one's just in a pretty incredible fourth wall break
[00:53:19] Uh, but they're both insane and incredible and I remember I sat in the theater watching drive angry
[00:53:25] It was me and my two friends. We were there and like the only ones in the theater
[00:53:29] Uh, and we fucking were going nuts during the drive angry sexy and it's it's incredible
[00:53:34] And then the between worlds sex scene I was able to replicate that experience
[00:53:38] By myself at home watching it
[00:53:40] Watch about my tv
[00:53:42] Just it's they're both absolutely insane and both need to be seen to be believed. They're incredible
[00:53:47] So yeah, the drive angry sex scene in the between worlds sex scene
[00:53:50] One of many sex scenes in between worlds, but that's like the main one that I wanted to focus on
[00:53:55] Amazing. Yes. Those are there are both a tie from my number three spot right there. I love it
[00:53:59] My number two spot is also a cheat
[00:54:01] Uh potentially because I we didn't ever time cage's presence on screen
[00:54:06] But this might be his shortest potentially
[00:54:09] Because this is his role in the fake trailer in grindhouse as fu man shoe in the trailer for werewolf women
[00:54:32] There we go, I was uh, I was actually thinking myself like wonder if that would get
[00:54:36] So I didn't put it on any of my stuff, um, but that's a good choice because we didn't do like a full review of that episode
[00:54:41] Of that movie because like, you know, it's literally like 30 seconds of a fake trailer as part of a different movie
[00:54:49] Yeah, but we kind of tacked on like a 10 minute discussion of at the end of our ghost writer episode or something like that, right?
[00:54:54] Right. Yeah, I think so and yeah
[00:54:56] I wanted to bring it up just to you know, kind of try to use these lists
[00:55:00] Like my worst list I like, you know, go for the little less obvious things
[00:55:03] Try and highlight some stuff that we covered over the four years and I can't believe this is a thing first off
[00:55:10] That he's in a fake trailer in the grindhouse movie
[00:55:13] Um, and I think one of them that Eli Roth one is supposed to become a movie
[00:55:16] Like the Thanksgiving one I think or something. I mean that that was the rumor years ago
[00:55:20] I doubt that I'll actually have it at this point. I feel like the ship is probably sailed on fake grindhouse movies
[00:55:26] You know, I I feel like it'd be crazy if they just decided like now to do an adaptation of Thanksgiving or whatever, you know
[00:55:32] Or don't or or something. Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah. Yeah, but shutter will do it
[00:55:37] I mean if anybody would it would be shutter, but it'd be shutter. Yeah
[00:55:41] Uh, that's a great choice
[00:55:43] There you go. There's not really much to say because like we said, it's a couple seconds in this fake trailer
[00:55:48] But he's in it and that's all that matters. Yeah, and the trailer itself is pretty insane as well
[00:55:52] So there is that yeah, uh, all right
[00:55:54] My number two is uh one that you already mentioned Mike and it is pretty much all of vampires kiss
[00:55:59] Nice, but especially the abc scene which is one of the most iconic cage-free guts of all time
[00:56:04] Sometimes somebody puts a document in the wrong file and then it's miss filed. It makes it much harder to find
[00:56:11] Who who what do you mean? Who I don't know who exactly you don't no, I don't
[00:56:20] Whoever filed it in the first place, but
[00:56:23] For god's sake speeder. I am not telling you one single thing. You don't already know
[00:56:27] How could somebody miss file something?
[00:56:31] What could be easier? It's all alphabetical
[00:56:35] You just put it in the right file according to alphabetical order
[00:56:41] You know a b c d e f g h i j k elemental b
[00:56:48] u r s t u v w h y things
[00:56:54] That's all you have to do
[00:56:58] Very good, you know your alphabet. I didn't miss file anything
[00:57:03] That's what's not work time
[00:57:05] I'm sure that you didn't
[00:57:08] It's one of the first ones that I think I ever actually saw
[00:57:10] Um or like like I knew who Nicholas Cage was and I had watched like growing up
[00:57:15] I watched national treasure and that kind of thing and then by the time I was in high school
[00:57:18] I had a friend who like he was also really into movies
[00:57:21] And he was the one who told me about vampires kiss in the first place and he's like, yo
[00:57:24] This is a crazy nipples cage performance. You got to watch this
[00:57:27] And he showed me a video of cage doing the abc's and I was like, whoa
[00:57:31] I have to see this movie
[00:57:34] Uh this is so bad. I have to watch it twice
[00:57:38] Uh but it's incredible because he goes through every
[00:57:41] Range of emotion in the span of that abc countdown
[00:57:45] Yeah, you know the entire time he's doing abc
[00:57:47] It's like it's a different inflection for every single letter and every letter is like a different emotion that he's bringing to it
[00:57:54] Uh and it's it's just one of the great acting moments in nipples cage career
[00:57:58] I think people will think i'm joking about that. I genuinely think it's brilliant
[00:58:02] It's so good. Yeah
[00:58:04] And you know out of context it's silly and ridiculous and in context is also silly and ridiculous
[00:58:08] But it fits with the narrative of the movie overall
[00:58:11] So yeah, that's my number two is vampires kiss, especially the abc scene is what i'm saying with that one
[00:58:17] And then i'm guessing that we have the same number one. It's my I think so now
[00:58:21] I'm thinking about i'm looking at mine and i'm looking at it and i'm thinking he hasn't mentioned this one yet
[00:58:26] And there's no way this isn't on his list
[00:58:29] So, uh, let me know mike. What was your number one movie or number one most insane necklace cage moment slash performance?
[00:58:36] Uh, my number one insane performance crazy as moment
[00:58:40] Is really the whole movie, but actually it's only the first 45 minutes
[00:58:44] But actually it's only one scene where nicholas cage yells sam fucking peckingpaw in deadfall
[00:58:50] Uh
[00:58:53] Yeah, deadfall. That's also my number one man. Just fucking deadfall. It is the craziest nicholas cage has ever been
[00:59:00] I mean and you know he tried to recapture that a little bit with arsenal
[00:59:03] Right? He he was playing the same character in arsenal which came out a couple years ago
[00:59:07] Uh, and he kind of caught a little bit of that spark to some fun scenes in that movie
[00:59:10] Which is an overall pretty terrible movie. Uh good contender for worse nicholas cage movies of all time
[00:59:16] Yeah, I think that might have actually been the movie
[00:59:18] I was trying to try to remember uh when I came out with uh, right to whatever it was right to kill without what the fuck
[00:59:25] I can't even remember that movie time to kill the temple dudes dairy
[00:59:28] Oh kiss of death the one kiss of death that one there we go, but I actually meant arsenal man. Okay, hold on
[00:59:35] See that's the problem. Anyway, deadfall. That's the problem with a lot of nicholas cage movies
[00:59:38] They all have pretty similar titles and they're all kind of about the same thing
[00:59:41] yeah
[00:59:43] Like even us who are nicholas cage experts at this point. We still get mixed up some from time to time
[00:59:49] Yes, correct
[00:59:50] But yeah, deadfall not about deadfall. We'll never get wrong about deadfall deadfall is so singularly insane
[00:59:55] It's directed by his brother christopher coppola and he kind of just let cage do his thing go nuts
[01:00:00] Got a stupid wig big nose sunglasses indoors all the time all the time all the time
[01:00:07] Uh, who's the it's michael bean in this in michael bean? Yeah, it's michael bean peter fonda
[01:00:12] I want to say in this movie too
[01:00:14] Charlie sheen shows up for a bit as like the fucking devil or something or it's a he's his pool pool hall devil guy
[01:00:21] He's the pool hall devil man who is like in a like a pinstripe red suit with a fingerless glove and all that stuff
[01:00:27] There's a guy with a lobster claw and it's barely addressed
[01:00:31] Is that peter? Who is that that plays?
[01:00:34] That's not peter. I don't think peter fonda is the lobster claw glad
[01:00:37] I think he's somebody else. I think he might be michael beans dad or something in the movie
[01:00:40] Or their boss or whatever, but uh or no michael beans dad dies in the movie
[01:00:45] And so he goes to work for his dad's brother who I think is peter fonda
[01:00:48] Um also known as lobster claw man
[01:00:52] Lobster claw man was a different guy
[01:00:54] I don't know big if true. We'll find I am almost positive
[01:00:57] But uh anyway, no because I feel like lobster claw guy was it was somebody no lobster claw guy was angus scrim
[01:01:03] Angus scrim was lobster claw man
[01:01:05] Okay, I don't know who that is
[01:01:08] I'm in love with everything about this. That's all that matters
[01:01:13] The important thing is dead falls fucking nuts and cage
[01:01:17] Sorry, what are you looking at?
[01:01:19] I'm just laughing at how crazy deadfall is
[01:01:23] Like even just talking about like it seems weird like we haven't watched this movie in like three years
[01:01:28] Probably yeah, and like we're trying to remember details about it
[01:01:31] And we're both like that can't possibly be what happens to deadfall right and like nope that is
[01:01:35] That's it. Yeah, but it's it's cage. I was most insane. It's just one of the weirdest performances. He's done his career
[01:01:42] Are you telling me that was his fucking money?
[01:01:47] Somebody's after your job boy, I bet he even stole your woman
[01:02:21] Uh and he dies uh by a friar all he gets dumped into
[01:02:32] Into a deep friar and that's how he dies. It's how he goes
[01:02:35] And then the movie goes on for like 35 minutes after that
[01:02:38] And it's like why is this movie still happening without this insane nipples cage before?
[01:02:42] Yeah, so you're right. It's not it's not him
[01:02:45] It's not peter fonda. Okay, but I don't I don't know who it is
[01:02:48] Is it james coburn james coburn was in this movie james coburn was in deadfall
[01:02:53] On the poster his name is on the poster
[01:02:55] Why are so many people in deadfall?
[01:02:57] What the fuck?
[01:02:59] We need to wait pause. We need to watch deadfall again. We'll come back to this episode
[01:03:03] Quick break go watch deadfall
[01:03:05] If there was any movie we should have rewatched before this episode it was deadfall
[01:03:09] It was deadfall
[01:03:10] I was thinking about rewatching it before we reviewed arsenal actually just to kind of like compare contrast
[01:03:14] But uh it just never I'd never got around to it
[01:03:16] But now now I feel like when we watched deadfall. I think I described it as like it was kind of it
[01:03:21] Like it wasn't good
[01:03:22] But it was like, you know, I was like morbidly curious to find out what happened and now looking back on it
[01:03:27] I'm like that movie's fucking nuts and I kind of want to watch it all the time
[01:03:30] Uh, I think yeah, I think I remember our reaction being that after cage gets deep fried
[01:03:36] It kind of like stopped and was dumb
[01:03:38] But while he was in it. It was great. Well great air quotes. So the thing is after cage gets deep fried
[01:03:43] That's when charlie she shows up and that's when uh lobster claw man shows up
[01:03:47] Yeah, whoever that might be we'll never know
[01:03:49] So there is cool. There's like weird crazy shit going on even after cage dies
[01:03:54] But cage really is like the lifeblood of this movie
[01:03:56] And it's and it really is like why is this movie still going on now that tickles cage is not in the movie? Yeah
[01:04:01] Uh, but yeah, so that's cool
[01:04:02] We both picked the same number one for most insane nipples cage performance and moments and all that stuff
[01:04:07] If you haven't seen deadfall watch it. It's amazing
[01:04:10] Uh, all right, and I think that wraps up that section of the show mic
[01:04:13] We're about halfway done now now we got to move on into our top five
[01:04:17] Oh, actually I have to I had a couple honorable mentions. I wanted to get out there before we move on sure
[01:04:21] Uh, so real quick just a few uh the scene in matchstick men where he shouts at the guy online and says
[01:04:27] Beating on the side of the bone until you've
[01:04:33] Yep classic, uh the snake hands from outcast I threw that in there as the honorable mention
[01:04:37] Uh, the scene in ghost rider 2 when he pisses fire
[01:04:42] And also the scene in ghost rider 2 where he's yelling you scraped me that for two
[01:04:47] Uh
[01:04:48] Yep, uh the scene in haimun in vegas where he's stuck in line at the airport behind ben stein
[01:04:53] Um, do you know that? He's like just shouting at him. It's like what are you gonna do send me to airport jail?
[01:04:59] Which is a thing now, but it wasn't in 1992
[01:05:02] How about that?
[01:05:03] And I did mention the not the beach from the wicker man and also the scene in bad lieutenant port called new worldians
[01:05:07] Um when he interrogates the old lady, uh, which is one of my favorite scenes in any of these movies
[01:05:12] Uh, and it actually like I really killed me not putting it on with the top five
[01:05:16] I was like kind of just barely not there and honestly there's a lot of bad lieutenant scenes that could have made the cut there too
[01:05:22] I was gonna say what about the like tap dancing on his grave or whatever scene when he's all
[01:05:26] Coked out. Yeah
[01:05:28] Uh, but all right, that's those are uh, those are my honorable mentions now to move on into our top five best
[01:05:33] Nicholas cage performances
[01:05:42] Play
[01:05:46] Eyes of night and lips as bright as flame
[01:05:53] Tangerine
[01:05:57] When she dances by
[01:06:02] Say you read us there and cavoie, oh
[01:06:07] So
[01:06:12] I've seen
[01:06:14] Times went and you
[01:06:23] All right, it's time to get into our top five Nicholas cage performances of all time
[01:06:27] Uh, and once again, I've got some honorable mentions. I'll throw in there at the end
[01:06:30] But I don't want to you know steal any of mike's thunder uh before we kick off the list
[01:06:34] So mike what's your number five best Nicholas cage performance?
[01:06:39] my number five best Nicholas cage performance is
[01:06:43] Check out mike's instagram for a recent picture of him as hi mcdonough from uh, raising arizona
[01:06:50] The cullen brothers uh joint that night. I had a dream
[01:06:56] I drifted off thinking about happiness birthing new life
[01:07:02] But now I was haunted by a vision of
[01:07:08] He was horrible
[01:07:10] A
[01:07:13] lone biker of the apocalypse
[01:07:16] A man with all the powers of hell at his command he could turn the day into night
[01:07:25] And laid to waste everything in his path
[01:07:32] He was especially hard on the little things
[01:07:35] The helpless and the gentle creatures
[01:07:38] He left a scorched earth and his weight befalled on even the sweet desert breeze that whips across his brow
[01:07:46] All right, it's hi is the name
[01:07:50] Some characters call him hi, but it's a job
[01:07:54] Man, I love the cullen brothers movies. That's great. Uh, I don't think I ever noticed that they call them
[01:08:00] Call them hi
[01:08:02] Um, yeah, just like that good good early, you know first first third of his career
[01:08:08] leading man like dunce doofy
[01:08:12] Southern hot stuff leading like I don't know
[01:08:15] It's just like a great mix of everything about nickle's cage and when he was the the prime
[01:08:20] character actor of our age at that time
[01:08:24] And it's just the hair and the mustache and the open Hawaiian shirt. That's fucking great. He steals a baby
[01:08:30] He does that is part of the movie
[01:08:32] Uh, yes, I love nickle's cage stage on Mcdonough that might pop up a little bit later down on my list
[01:08:37] And yeah, I did go as a hi for uh for halloween this year
[01:08:40] And it was one of one of my better halloween costumes
[01:08:42] I would say I put a little bit of effort into it in the fact that I like I shaved my beard
[01:08:47] Which was yeah, you know a big sack. I had a great stash. I did thank you and it grew back very fast. So it was fine
[01:08:52] Yeah
[01:08:54] All right, my number five best nickle's cage performance of all time
[01:08:58] Going with my boy david lynch sailor rippley and wild at heart
[01:09:07] Oh
[01:09:11] Wow
[01:09:13] Surprise for you
[01:09:15] My snake skin jacket
[01:09:18] Thanks, baby
[01:09:19] They'll ever tell you that this here jacket represents a similar my individuality and my belief in personal freedom
[01:09:25] So 50,000 times
[01:09:27] I got us a room at the cave there and guess what?
[01:09:31] Param is playing at the hurricane
[01:09:34] Stabbing in steer one of my favorite like that's a movie that um, I had not seen before we started this podcast
[01:09:39] Uh, so one of my favorite discoveries of the show was uh, wild at heart
[01:09:43] Amazing chemistry with laura darne um in this movie
[01:09:46] Who is also excellent and cage just fits right in with just an over-the-top david lynch kind of world
[01:09:51] Like can you imagine nidlis cage showed up in twin peaks to return?
[01:09:54] if like
[01:09:56] With the jacket. Yeah, we just as his character from wild at heart
[01:10:00] I would have been the coolest shit. I would that would have been amazing
[01:10:02] And it's also this is one movie where he really channels elvis presley
[01:10:07] Who is one of nidlis cages heroes? He kind of does that in a couple other movies too
[01:10:10] It pops up in a few of his movies notably in honeymoon in vegas
[01:10:13] Which you know has all the elvises kind of dive bombing out of the out of the sky and stuff like that
[01:10:18] Wait, that's going on my top five craziest moment
[01:10:22] We got a backtrack we gotta do it all again
[01:10:24] And plus, you know, he married elvis's daughter in real life. So there is that too. Oh, yeah
[01:10:28] Yeah, uh, and also don't forget nidlis cage suggested the snakeskin jacket himself
[01:10:32] He uh, he actually said like to david lynch. Hey can my character wear a snakeskin jacket david lynch is like, yeah, okay
[01:10:38] So you wrote it i think he just
[01:10:40] likes wearing snakes
[01:10:44] Imagine if he was wearing the snakeskin jacket with the snakes on his hand from outcast he'd be invincible my god
[01:10:50] Be the most powerful creature on earth the world can't handle that many snakes on nidlis cage
[01:10:58] All right, so that's my number five picks sailor rippley and wild at heart mike. What's your number four cage performance of all time?
[01:11:05] Uh, my number four cage performance of all time is sailor rippley from wild at heart
[01:11:11] Yeah, i'm glad you had that whole conversation about it because this is the one
[01:11:14] I mentioned in between that uh, I feel like i'm cheating a little bit because I didn't get a chance to rewatch wild at heart
[01:11:19] And this is the one that I definitely would have like if I wanted to the most
[01:11:23] Uh, because it's been a long time and I remember it being really good
[01:11:26] But I don't have a whole lot to say about it because it's been a long time
[01:11:30] Um, but yeah just that weird fucking cage. I remember the Elvis impression he's doing. I remember
[01:11:36] uh, the scene where like
[01:11:37] They pull up on the side of the road and just like start like mashing to punk music and he like back flips into the car
[01:11:43] And like they're just like doing all this crazy shit. And yeah, it's just like a crime
[01:11:47] Like rock. I think it's a crime movie, right? Yeah
[01:11:50] Crime dark comedy kind of like weird
[01:11:53] Yeah, bunch in surrealist stuff. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's great. It's all that good shit. Yeah, there it is
[01:11:57] Absolutely. Yeah, I mean I I haven't watched it in a while either. I bought the blu-ray. Um, shower factory put it out
[01:12:02] Not too long ago or maybe a year or two ago
[01:12:04] Actually, I have two copies of the shower factory while the heart blu-ray
[01:12:08] Hey, yeah, if you want one it was weird
[01:12:10] I bought it and then like a week after I received it
[01:12:13] They sent me an email saying there was something wrong with your blu-ray
[01:12:15] We're sending you a new one
[01:12:17] And I was like, I haven't even opened my blu-ray to find out what was wrong with it. But now I have two
[01:12:22] Sweet. Hey, I know a person that is your friend. It doesn't have any so hey
[01:12:26] Let me know. I'll send you his deeds. Yeah, give me his info
[01:12:31] All right, let's move on to my number four best Nicholas Cage performance right here
[01:12:35] And I'm going with Roy Waller in matchstick men
[01:12:38] Look doc, I spent last Tuesday watching fibers on my carpet and the whole time I was watching my carpet
[01:12:45] I was worrying that I might bomb it and the whole time I was thinking I'm a grown man
[01:12:49] I should know what goes on my head and the more I thought about it the more I realized that I should just
[01:12:54] Blow my brains out and end it all
[01:12:56] But then I thought when I well if I thought more about blowing my brains out
[01:12:59] I started worried about what that was going to do to my goddamn carpet. Okay, so
[01:13:04] That was a good day doc and and I just want you to give me some pills and let me get along with my life
[01:13:10] Oh, wow
[01:13:11] Yes, did you forget this one? Is this one that you forgot?
[01:13:14] No, I'm a big fan of matchstick men, but I didn't know make your top
[01:13:18] Top top list there. That's awesome. I mean I I liked matchstick men the movie a lot
[01:13:22] I thought it was a lot of fun
[01:13:23] But I think cage's performance is the best thing about it
[01:13:25] And this is a role that asks a lot of Nicholas Cage
[01:13:28] You know he has to play the cool con man, right?
[01:13:29] But he also has to play the insecure OCD tendencies that are going on throughout the movie
[01:13:33] There's a lot of like ticks that he has to hit that might seem from other actors like they're overdoing it
[01:13:38] But I think cage manages to find the right balance there
[01:13:40] And I think he does a really interesting thing where those ticks just fade away as soon as he's on the job and the con
[01:13:45] And that kind of thing like he's in his elements
[01:13:47] Uh, which is really cool in all the while developing a really strong relationship with the girl that he thinks is his daughter
[01:13:53] Uh, who not to spoil anything a matchstick man, but that's the entire twist
[01:14:00] I don't know if I got me so good
[01:14:04] Uh, but yeah Roy Waller matchstick men really good performance from Nicholas Cage and that's my number four pick
[01:14:08] I like it. Uh, my number three pick
[01:14:11] Is Nicholas Cage as castor trey from faceoff nice now castor trey or castor trey slash shawn archer in faceoff
[01:14:19] Uh, wow, okay
[01:14:21] I guess first
[01:14:22] First is castor trey because you mentioned those first 15 minutes are just like wow. They're so good
[01:14:28] Uh, especially that choir scene
[01:14:31] it's just like
[01:14:32] It's like looking to the lord while grabbing this choir girl's ass and it's just the silliest fucking thing of all time
[01:14:38] It's not it's bananas. Yeah, and the whole the whole prison plot line with like the magnetic shoes like what even is this movie
[01:14:46] Yeah
[01:14:47] Yeah, this is great and it's just it's it's peak the finale to the we made it my trilogy
[01:14:52] You know you got to share some work. Oh, yeah, absolutely
[01:14:54] You got to show some love that we made in my trilogy one of the great cinematic trilogies of all time
[01:14:58] For those who don't listen to this podcast regularly and just jumping in now
[01:15:02] The we made it my trilogy is the rock con air and faceoff the three action movies that cage made in a row
[01:15:07] In the 90s
[01:15:08] And they are fantastic great great choice from faceoff and a great kind of like that is cage kind of stretching his muscles a little bit
[01:15:14] He's also he's not just doing Nicholas cage. He's also doing trevulta
[01:15:18] Which is pretty incredible to watch
[01:15:20] And trevulta is also doing Nicholas cage and you know, he's also doing an incredible job too faceoff just so good
[01:15:25] It's incredible
[01:15:26] I just I love the story of the behind the scenes thing we talked about I think in the episode
[01:15:30] We're like cage and trevulta like locked themselves in a cabin and just like stared at each other
[01:15:35] Figure out everybody like their mannerisms. Yeah, they like studied each other for a week or something like that
[01:15:39] Like just isolated alone. It's it's nuts. So yeah face face off is a great choice for your number three best cage performance
[01:15:45] And my number three is one that you've already mentioned Mike. It is h.i. mcdonough in raising arizona
[01:15:50] Nice, which yeah, I uh no surprise there. I'm a huge huge huge raising arizona fan
[01:15:55] And I don't see Nicholas cage in this movie
[01:15:58] Like he fully embodies h.i. mcdonough to me like the regional dialect is just right the long narrative passages that he has in the movie are incredible
[01:16:06] The physical comedy that he has on display is just nuts
[01:16:08] Like I think this is cage at at his funniest because it's his funniest performance
[01:16:13] And he really disappears into the character in a way that like, you know, I think nipples cage is a phenomenal actor
[01:16:19] Um, but very rarely do I feel like cage like just disappears into a character
[01:16:23] Like I feel like i'm always aware that i'm watching Nicholas cage generally
[01:16:26] Right, uh, but a.john mcdonough is one character where i'm like that's not cage
[01:16:30] That's a jenna. That's
[01:16:33] You know, he's he's just so good at embodying that role with a grid in the character
[01:16:37] It's so much fun to watch
[01:16:38] Uh plus raising arizona is a movie that I've been watching
[01:16:41] Pretty much nonstop since I was 10. So i'm a little biased but still
[01:16:45] A.john mcdonough and raising arizona my number three nipples cage performance
[01:16:49] All right, mike. What's your number two? My number two pick is a little bit tongue-in-cheek
[01:16:54] Um, okay, you know, maybe it's not the best
[01:16:58] Nicholas cage per se
[01:17:00] Interesting, you know, it might not be good quote unquote with
[01:17:05] You know, but that is Nicholas cage as edward malice in wicker man
[01:17:10] Whoa
[01:17:11] this first
[01:17:13] Tell me
[01:17:15] Yes, I think
[01:17:16] Yeah, how to get burned how to get burned. How to get burned how to get burned
[01:17:20] I don't know
[01:17:22] Twist never saw that coming did not not in a million years
[01:17:27] I think you'll take your number two best in this cage performance
[01:17:30] As the wicker man, but I am very curious to hear
[01:17:33] Where this comes from?
[01:17:35] Okay, so it might be coming from when I wrote down
[01:17:38] Uh, you know we the categories we were going to be doing I wrote top five favorite performances rather than best performances
[01:17:45] however
[01:17:46] I'll make the case that this is number two because it is like the birth of the meme
[01:17:51] I think like I mentioned it in the crate. It's definitely one of the most insane
[01:17:55] Things but cage like kind of commits to that insanity in a way that is like impressive. I think and a lot of his movies
[01:18:02] Uh, we kind of talk about you know, his willingness to just go for it and do the insane thing that whatever he wants to do
[01:18:08] and um
[01:18:09] Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like never, you know putting it these deserves to be on the like top five
[01:18:14] performances not best movies performances
[01:18:17] Like his his commitment to this bit and the you know, we're here probably because of wicker man
[01:18:22] We wouldn't we wouldn't have these past four years if it wasn't for that movie. So I wanted on the list
[01:18:26] Okay. Yeah fair enough. I think you made the case for it. I
[01:18:29] I mean, I think he's fine in the wicker man
[01:18:32] And no, he's good. He's good. I mean and there are moments, you know
[01:18:36] There are moments where he is like really diving into like the weird pulpy shit in that movie. That's a lot of fun
[01:18:40] Uh, and there is some great
[01:18:43] Classic cage like over the topness with the not to be seen
[01:18:46] How to get burned and all that stuff
[01:18:49] But yeah, it wouldn't come anywhere close to my top five cage performances. I'm very
[01:18:54] Like I'm kind of ecstatic that it made yours. Uh, just
[01:18:57] I'm glad. Yeah. All right. So that's uh Edward ballast in the wicker man
[01:19:01] I wouldn't even remember the character's name if you hadn't had a look at him
[01:19:04] I'll be totally honest. I just looked it up right now
[01:19:08] All right, I I'm going to my number two which is um
[01:19:11] If the wicker man was the birth of cage on the internet
[01:19:14] I feel like my number two
[01:19:16] Is
[01:19:17] Sort of the natural evolution of Nicholas
[01:19:20] Yes, yes it happened
[01:19:24] You did it the absolute madman
[01:19:28] The final episode I finally used your catchphrase. Uh, yes
[01:19:32] Uh, this this to me like, you know last year when Nicholas came like it felt like you couldn't escape Nicholas cage on the internet
[01:19:38] Last year uh in the same way like this past year everybody's talking about kianna reeves because of like john wick
[01:19:43] And all these different things that he was in last year
[01:19:45] There was one performance that nicles cage had that dwarfed most other performances in 2018 and kind of reminded people
[01:19:52] Nicholas cage is not just like an internet meme. He's a great fucking actor
[01:19:55] And that is uh the performance of red miller in mandy
[01:19:59] Not your favorite planet
[01:20:04] Jupiter
[01:20:06] Yeah, no doubt
[01:20:08] Jupiter
[01:20:11] Oh god
[01:20:16] Well because the surface of his atmosphere is a storm that's been raging for like a thousand years
[01:20:23] In the eye of the hurricane so huge that I could just swallow over it
[01:20:29] Yeah, that's what's my favorite planet. That's wild
[01:20:35] What's yours
[01:20:46] Saturn probably
[01:20:47] yeah
[01:20:49] Saturn's pretty cool
[01:20:51] And that was one of the first ones that we discovered and he once discovered so there's like a lot of cool
[01:20:57] ancient myths about it and stuff
[01:21:04] I changed my mind. Well, I collect us. This isn't a planet
[01:21:14] Yeah, but it's planets
[01:21:19] Nice it's the ultimate nicles cage performance, uh, you know, it distills his entire career into one being
[01:21:25] He plays tenderness. He plays rage. He plays grief. Uh, he does action
[01:21:29] He has comedic moments and and it did single-handedly bring cage back into the cultural conversation
[01:21:35] In a way that like, you know, I I feel like around 2013 he made joe right and joe was a very good movie
[01:21:40] That he gave a very good performance in
[01:21:42] Um, and you know, it was pretty respected in film circles and things like that
[01:21:45] But I didn't really like catch on like mandy did I feel like I feel like mandy
[01:21:49] We're still talking about it today. You know
[01:21:51] Like people are still the stubborn mandy on like shutter and things like that and all that stuff
[01:21:56] It's only been a year since mandy came out sure but I feel like it's one of those things that like people are going to keep discovering because it is
[01:22:01] Just such a weird crazy experience and a great visual thriller ride and also nicles cage
[01:22:06] Just going crazy in the movie and he's great in it. It's so good
[01:22:09] Uh, so yeah red miller and mandy that is my number two nicles cage performance again
[01:22:14] I think probably like the ultimate nicles cage performance
[01:22:17] Um, I think there's one that's slightly better and we'll talk about that my number one
[01:22:20] But i'm curious what your number one is mike. I i'm thinking it might be mandy
[01:22:24] But it might be something else. Let me let's find out
[01:22:27] I can either confirm or deny that my number one pick is mandy. Uh, well actually, I guess I can I do have to confirm
[01:22:33] Yeah, that is my uh, number one pick. I have to talk about it. Yeah, I felt like it based based on um, like our review of mandy
[01:22:40] When we talked about it a few weeks ago. I was thinking like yeah, your his number one is probably mandy
[01:22:46] Yeah, my number one performance of nicles cage is mandy for sure
[01:22:50] Um, it is the natural evolution of nicles cage as an actor
[01:22:54] Uh, like you mentioned it kind of synthesizes all of his
[01:22:57] His uh, his roles his previous roles and to being the the tender tender leading man
[01:23:02] Uh husband, you know father type kind of thing even though he's not a father in this movie, right?
[01:23:07] And then just pure action cage and insanity the chugging the vacca and screaming
[01:23:12] Uh in the bathroom which in other movies we talked about in our review of mandy in other movies with other actors
[01:23:17] That would have just been like a goof but in cage in mandy with cage
[01:23:21] That is like actual genuine heartfelt
[01:23:23] Like raw
[01:23:25] Anger pain and it's like amazing that that scene
[01:23:28] Like he can convey that in that kind of scene
[01:23:31] Um, and yeah, fuck dude mandy just rocks. That's all yeah, it fucking does if you haven't seen mandy yet
[01:23:36] I'm so curious
[01:23:38] I'm so curious what your number one is
[01:23:40] Uh, well my number one, uh now that we're moving on to the line
[01:23:43] My number one best nicles cage performance of all time across 89 episodes of this show
[01:23:48] It could happen to you
[01:23:52] Obviously no i'm going with best of times. Uh, what are you crazy?
[01:23:56] Guarding tests honestly
[01:24:00] Guarding test there's never been a movie that doesn't exist more than guarding tests. It's
[01:24:07] It's it's completely wiped from my memory except for the fact that the last 15 minutes or so of guarding tests are five and bonkers
[01:24:15] Although I will say I mean best of times though. He does actually give a legit great performance at best of times
[01:24:20] Yeah, that's true. There is one section. That's incredible
[01:24:23] I remember we came back to that so many times over the course of this podcast
[01:24:25] We like man, we're invested times when he gave that like monologue to the screen this weird goofy 80s tv show pilot
[01:24:32] That's like a weird sketch comedy laugh-in type thing and then cage just has like this three minute monologue about going or
[01:24:38] It's incredible
[01:24:40] It was like the first indication like whoa cage is a great actor
[01:24:42] But no that's not my number one pick. Uh, my number one pick is from 2002 gut cage nominated for an oscar
[01:24:48] His second time and a well deserved one
[01:24:51] His role as charlie kaufman and donnell kaufman in adaptation. Okay, there's a serial killer, right?
[01:24:57] Well, no wait and he's being hunted by a cop
[01:25:00] And he's taunting the cop right sending clues who his next victim is
[01:25:04] He's already holding her hostage in his creepy basement
[01:25:07] So the cop gets obsessed with figuring out her identity and in the process
[01:25:11] Falls in love with her even though he's never even met her
[01:25:14] She becomes like like like the unattainable like like the holy grail
[01:25:19] It's a little obvious. Don't you think okay? But here's the twist
[01:25:22] We find out that that the killer really suffers from multiple personality disorder, right?
[01:25:28] See he's actually really the cop and the girl all of them are him
[01:25:33] Isn't that fucked up?
[01:25:37] The only idea more overused in serial killers is multiple personality
[01:25:41] On top of that you explore the notion that cop and criminal are really two aspects of the same person
[01:25:47] See every cop movie ever made for other examples of this
[01:25:50] Mom called it psychologically tough
[01:25:53] Yes, uh, now this is a great movie one of my favorites, uh one of like before we started this podcast
[01:25:59] I knew I had seen a bunch of nipples cage movies
[01:26:01] But certainly not as many as I've seen now
[01:26:05] But adaptation is one that I had seen and really loved and uh, you know
[01:26:08] What I love about adaptations that cage manages to give life to both charlie and donald
[01:26:12] And make them feel like distinct separate people while also being very funny and also hitting some emotional depths that uh
[01:26:19] He would occasionally hit in the back half of his career like he does that with mandy definitely
[01:26:23] Uh, but not nearly as often as he did in the 80s and 90s
[01:26:26] Uh, and I've had so many people ask me why I do a nipples cage podcast
[01:26:31] Because these people think oh nipples cage. He's a bad actor right because you know all the internet memes and stuff
[01:26:36] Uh, yeah, but I can also guarantee that those people have never seen adaptation
[01:26:41] And that if they had they'd shut their stupid faces
[01:26:45] Uh, yeah, no adaptations fantastic. I think it's really I think it really is cage's best work
[01:26:50] It's and it's a tight call between that and mandy and raising arizona
[01:26:53] I think all five of these performances I've just mentioned are like truly fantastic cage performances
[01:26:57] Um, but I think adaptation gets the edge because it is caged essentially doing two different performances in the same movie
[01:27:03] Characters that look virtually identical, but he manages to make them feel extinct people
[01:27:07] If you always know when you're watching charlie and when you're watching donald throughout the movie
[01:27:12] Uh, and so yeah adaptation. I think this is the best nipples cage performance. Yeah, I like it good choice
[01:27:18] Yeah, fair it up. All right. And now uh, just a quick a few quick honorable mentions before we go on into our final segment of the show
[01:27:25] Wanted to mention uh, ben sanderson leaving las vegas as one of the best cage performances the one that won him an oscar
[01:27:30] For sure
[01:27:31] Also funny that didn't make either
[01:27:35] Yeah, it's the way the oscars work I guess but uh, uh, damon mcgree slash big daddy and kickass also
[01:27:42] Hi, after me, uh, joe in joe
[01:27:47] Great performance from cage, uh, tarant mcdonough in bedluntenporta called new war leans
[01:27:52] And once again peter lou in vampires kiss
[01:27:55] Uh, which I always have so much fun saying his name peter lou is uh, I think how he pronounced it in the movie. It's great
[01:28:02] Uh, any uh quick performances you want to throw out there mic?
[01:28:05] Anyone that you wanted to add to your list but couldn't couldn't quite cut it in the end time
[01:28:08] Um, not really this one. Uh, I actually didn't I had a hard time selecting
[01:28:13] Five but there wasn't any that were like in contention if that makes sense
[01:28:16] You're at tough and hard coming up with five
[01:28:19] You're a tough time selecting five, but you made room for the wicker man
[01:28:22] Look man, it was hard because I tried not to
[01:28:29] Uh crossover lists too much like I didn't want a lot of the same movies coming up
[01:28:34] Uh, so I was trying not to pick stuff that was on my top 10
[01:28:37] Sure, uh favorite movies. So that was why I was tough. So that's you know wicker man
[01:28:41] wicker man had to sneak in at number two with that
[01:28:44] totally fine
[01:28:45] Totally fine. Uh, all right now let's move on into the final segment of the show mic
[01:28:49] I can't believe we're almost done with this thing. I mean, we're not even almost done
[01:28:51] So we got quite a bit of this this segment's longer than the rest of them
[01:28:55] We're counting down our top 10 not the top five the top 10
[01:28:59] Nicholas Cage movies of all time
[01:29:01] Love me
[01:29:37] Now this is it after four years and 89 episodes
[01:30:02] Mike and I are ready to countdown our top 10
[01:30:05] Best Nicholas Cage movies of all time now
[01:30:08] This can be any movie that we've covered on this podcast, you know
[01:30:12] Now never on Tuesday already pops up and Mike's top worst so we can we can guess it won't show up on his best list
[01:30:17] But you never know
[01:30:19] It's possible
[01:30:20] Uh, but I'm but what I'm saying is that like even if cage like barely in the movie
[01:30:23] It might be on the list in some capacity
[01:30:25] I'm mostly saying that for myself because there is one movie on my list that is going to
[01:30:29] Make that wonder wonder what it is
[01:30:32] Yes, so anyway, uh, let's start off with you Mike. I have some I have some honorable mentions
[01:30:37] I'll do that afterwards again just to not step on any of your picks
[01:30:40] What's your number 10 Nicholas Cage movie of all time?
[01:30:44] Uh, my number 10 movie of all time favorite Nicholas Cage movie is uh, paul schrader's dog eat dog
[01:30:50] So let me ask you something
[01:30:52] Do you think I look like Humphrey bogart? No
[01:30:57] Well, you see that's interesting because i'm a big film buff bogart was the best the king
[01:31:02] When I was in the joint there was a movie producer who was in there with me and I I said to him
[01:31:05] I says do you think I look like Humphrey bogart? He says well, yeah, you do
[01:31:11] But a stretched out version of him
[01:31:16] It's a fantastic story. So we're your boys. I don't bring him stuff like this. No, nah, they just know what they need to know
[01:31:24] Okay
[01:31:25] Shall we order a bottle of wine? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that sounds good
[01:31:28] So greco tells me you're a heavy guy
[01:31:32] I'm not referring to your weight. I mean that apparently you are a gentleman of some power and influence
[01:31:39] Now, well, I try my best. It is a shitty economy out there. So we all got to work over time all the time
[01:31:45] I heard that
[01:31:48] I was thinking myself like I really love doggy dog too. And I was thinking I was like, no, maybe that should be like higher up
[01:31:53] But it didn't quite make my list. So I'm glad of age years. Yeah. I mean this was um
[01:31:58] This is like crying movie. We start Willem Dafoe and Nicholas Cage and some other person who I can't remember off the top of my head
[01:32:04] And some third guy. Yeah, some yeah some Jai Courtney motherfucker
[01:32:11] Definitely you gotta look nothing like Jai Courtney. No, but it's just some generic white guy in a crime movie
[01:32:18] Yeah, and this is just like a weird dark comedy just the darkest comedy ever
[01:32:23] And uh, it ends with this weird lynching
[01:32:27] Death dream sequence where Cage is doing a Humphrey Bogart impression
[01:32:33] And it's just like
[01:32:35] A treatise on police brutality or some shit. I think I don't even really know
[01:32:40] But yeah, this movie was like a revelation for us in this late era cage
[01:32:45] Yes
[01:32:46] You know stretch we were in there for a while and we were just getting tired of these vod crime movies
[01:32:51] And then here comes Paul Schrader our boy and it was awesome
[01:32:54] Yeah, and especially I mean it was so nice to have doggy dog because cage had worked with Paul Schrader
[01:32:58] Uh, well, I guess twice before because he had written bringing out the dead
[01:33:01] But he also directed dying of the light, uh, which we had reviewed a few weeks before doggy dog
[01:33:07] And we both were pretty negative on that movie. We did not like that movie that much at all
[01:33:11] And so doggy dog comes around and it's like, oh man, this is the fucking movie
[01:33:14] Like yeah, this is the one. Yeah, I'm so glad that a cage schrader
[01:33:18] Collaboration worked out the second time. So that was pretty cool
[01:33:21] Yeah, so yeah, great choice for your number 10 doggy dog. That's a good one
[01:33:25] And you know, my my number 10 is actually also a dark comedy
[01:33:28] Also, also like weirdly dark in places but also like, you know, kind of emotional and heartfelt and uh, the movie is
[01:33:35] The weatherman from 2005
[01:33:37] Turtles, turtles, turtles
[01:33:40] Turtles, turtles, turtles, turtles
[01:33:47] Man, I'd like to put my face in there
[01:33:50] Right in there
[01:33:54] My hips are cold
[01:33:56] That's when you know it's cold
[01:33:58] I like eating pussy, char saws. A lot of guys don't. Well, maybe they do. Maybe that's just black guys, char saws
[01:34:04] What happened to the guy who was trying to go around the world in a balloon? Did he make it?
[01:34:08] I should put some espionage or stone plutonium in my novel, char saws. Spice it up, Neil Young
[01:34:13] Fuck it's cold
[01:34:15] Neil Young, what why am I thinking about Neil Young, Neil Diamond, Neil? There's not a lot of famous Neil's. Is this Wednesday?
[01:34:20] I wish he had two dicks
[01:34:22] I thought the whole family was going to lose Spanish together this year that never really happened
[01:34:26] I haven't had a Spanish omelette in a long time
[01:34:29] Here we go. Nice, uh
[01:34:31] Which was directed by Gore Verbinski. That was episode 44 of this podcast
[01:34:35] If anyone wants to go check that out, uh, I think this might be the most underrated movie of the location's entire career
[01:34:40] It is so good. Uh, you know again very dark comedy
[01:34:45] Utilizes a stream of consciousness cage narration ends up feeling very profound and emotionally affecting. I think cage is great in this movie
[01:34:52] I really love the relationship he has with his daughter in this movie. Uh, I love Michael Cain in this movie
[01:34:57] Uh, delivering one of his best performances genuinely. I think the scene where Michael Cain
[01:35:02] Um kind of shows up at the end and is like playing the bob seager song with Nicholas Cage
[01:35:07] Uh, and he just gives them the speech but like in this shit life all we had like
[01:35:12] It's so good
[01:35:14] So good in that scene. Uh, it's incredible. And yeah, this is Gore Verbinski directing who um
[01:35:19] Had just come off making pirates of the caravan and it's about to jump right back into pirates of the caravan two
[01:35:23] He made this movie in between two gigantic
[01:35:26] Fucking disney blockbusters and it's like this weird esoteric like you know, niggas cage dark comedy thing
[01:35:33] Uh, I just love the weatherman. So it's it's so much fun
[01:35:36] And I think uh one one of my favorite discoveries in this podcast for sure was the weatherman
[01:35:39] You want to know a fun fact? Um, I realized there is a glaring omission on my list and just before we started
[01:35:45] I am now shifting uh everything down one to put in that movie that I forgot about
[01:35:50] Oh really and what's what's now at number 11 and was number 10 is the weatherman
[01:36:03] That's great. So I'm glad you guys try to see for it too
[01:36:06] So the weatherman was almost in your top 10 just got cut out at the last second
[01:36:10] Yeah, it's just unfortunate for the last one but but still got some love which is nice
[01:36:15] It still made it and that's all that counts. There we go. All right, Mike
[01:36:19] You got a when you reached the movie that you hastily added in there. You gotta tell me what it is
[01:36:25] I think you'll know
[01:36:28] We'll find the well, let's yeah, we'll get to it. Well, yeah, let let me know when it comes around
[01:36:32] But what's your number nine? Number nine was the movie. No, I'm kidding. That's not the movie
[01:36:39] The number nine movie is the trust starring Elijah Wood and Nicholas Cage
[01:36:45] David, please open it. I asked you nicely
[01:36:57] I'm sorry
[01:37:01] Look if you're scared, I get it. It's okay
[01:37:05] But I'm not and and I've I've come this far
[01:37:10] So please open the door
[01:37:12] You'll get a skill
[01:37:18] I'm gonna ask you one more time
[01:37:21] Please open it
[01:37:30] Open it! Open it!
[01:37:32] Open it! Open it! Open it! Open it!
[01:37:39] We're going with the late period VOD cage for your top 10
[01:37:45] Yeah
[01:37:46] You know we had we got there's how many there's 89 movies. We only have top 10
[01:37:50] But I feel like the last the 10 10 9 8 maybe we can kind of like fuck around and highlight some movies that
[01:37:56] That movie people wouldn't out of uh, people wouldn't get to you normally in their Nicholas Cage viewing
[01:38:02] Um, so yeah, I wanted to highlight the trust which was another one of those like kind of hidden gem um late age
[01:38:09] late stage cage
[01:38:12] Movies there and it's a another crime dark comedy crime movie
[01:38:17] Which I guess is pretty funny that cage made a lot of those at the end there
[01:38:20] Yeah, and it's just absolutely insane about cage and alleged wood are like the
[01:38:25] In a the evidence collector cops or something like that
[01:38:29] They like run the evidence lab and they decide to pull off a heist
[01:38:33] Uh, and it just goes predictably terribly wrong because everyone that's bumbling idiot criminals
[01:38:38] And then it's like reveal that cage
[01:38:40] Might be more sinister than we anticipated and and shenanigans get darker
[01:38:46] And it's a I had a lot of fun with the trust. I liked it a lot. Yeah, I like the movie a lot too
[01:38:50] I remember the ending being very very weird
[01:38:52] Uh, like you don't actually know what happened to Elijah wood at the end and that kind of thing
[01:38:56] But yeah very fun movie
[01:38:57] I love, you know, just the back and forth between Elijah wood and cage
[01:38:59] They were kind of fun together, uh, and yeah cage is performance like
[01:39:02] You know the way it starts revealing like way more sinister intentions. It's really really solid
[01:39:07] So yeah the trust from 2016 definitely a good one to uh to check out
[01:39:11] And I believe available on Netflix right now if people want to watch it
[01:39:14] Uh, all right. Now my number nine movie
[01:39:17] Going back to the 90s here 1998 episode 31 of this podcast directed by mr. Brian de Palma. It is snake eyes
[01:39:24] Other jobs for oh shit. Sorry, sir
[01:39:28] Oh
[01:39:33] Shit you kind of went the stupid way didn't you Cyrus?
[01:39:36] Oh, oh, oh, I got a cut. I need a medic medic medic medic
[01:39:41] Well that's a start
[01:39:44] What what what do you want? What do you think?
[01:39:47] No, yes. No come on. This is not fair man. Come on. Call the cop
[01:39:53] No
[01:39:53] Hey, I'm out of here about all this Cyrus. You gotta keep positive
[01:40:01] You see when we have these little visits
[01:40:03] I allow you
[01:40:05] I permit you
[01:40:06] I give you the opportunity to pay for all the extra police work that you create
[01:40:13] That doesn't feel nice to contribute to society for a change
[01:40:26] Friend Cyrus everybody loves rick santoro
[01:40:30] Nice, which is a very de palma thriller
[01:40:34] With I think a bit of a letdown ending. I will say like the ending it's of the movie
[01:40:38] It's like, you know, it's I think we talked about in the episode
[01:40:40] It's like a I think that it was supposed to be something else
[01:40:43] But they ran a budget and couldn't do exactly what they wanted to do so the ending itself
[01:40:46] It's like it's whatever but everything leading up to the ending is so much fun. It's aces
[01:40:50] Especially I mean the highlight of the movie is that long 15 minute opening shot
[01:40:54] Um, that's just you know single take just following cage through the arena and the hotel and it's cage
[01:40:59] Kind of just doing everything in his actor's arsenal. He's like poison at people
[01:41:03] He's shouting and he's beating people up and it's just it's so much fun
[01:41:06] So yeah, I'm going with snake eyes as my number nine. I think it's a ton of fun
[01:41:10] And I think honestly one of brine de palma is more underrated movies too. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Good pick
[01:41:16] My number eight pick is
[01:41:19] I forget. I don't even remember any of the information about this movie like as far as director or here
[01:41:23] It came out but mom and dad
[01:41:25] You
[01:41:51] Yeah, it's a horror movie quote unquote uh about
[01:41:54] About um, the parents in the world decide to uh murder their children and it's directed by both of the guys from crank
[01:42:03] One of the guys from crank brine taylor who also I mean those two guys together
[01:42:07] Uh co-directed ghost writer too also
[01:42:10] Right and then brine taylor wants solo to do mom and dad with nickless cage. Yeah, and who's the mom?
[01:42:14] I for is it the one on a rider? No, no, it's not what I wish it would be on a rider. That'd be incredible
[01:42:18] Holy holy shit. No uh selma blare is the is the mom selma blare. That was it. Man. I was close
[01:42:24] I mean, yeah, they both have dark hair. Uh, I don't know what that means. Yeah, selma blare. Um
[01:42:29] Yeah, and this is a a in a bonkers fucking horror movie. It's it's just insane and and cage
[01:42:36] Uh, I can't remember exactly what he yells, but when they're trying their their children barricade themselves in the basement at one point
[01:42:42] And it's them
[01:42:43] uh
[01:42:44] Cajun selma blare trying to convince them to open the door
[01:42:46] And and they shoot through the door and all this crazy shit goes on
[01:42:50] And then there's the the big climactic scene emotionally where cage, uh destroys a pool table with a sledgehammer
[01:42:58] And it's pretty powerful stuff. I'm gonna say it is. Yeah, that's great. I mean it really is like it's one of those things
[01:43:03] I remember um
[01:43:04] When mom and dad was coming out like that was a scene that everybody highlighted like oh man
[01:43:07] Nicholas Cage just the hokey pokey and destroys pool table to sledgehammer
[01:43:09] And like that was like, oh, it's the crazy cage scene and then you watch the movie and it's like the emotional trucks of the film
[01:43:15] Yeah
[01:43:17] So it's pretty nuts and yeah mom and dad's a ton of fun
[01:43:19] Uh and a good choice. I think for your number eight. Uh, it's not in my time 10
[01:43:22] But it's very it's a very good choice now
[01:43:24] My number eight is one that we've mentioned a couple times already on the podcast
[01:43:27] Uh, it's uh directed by mr. John Wu
[01:43:31] From uh episode 29 of this episode 97 the capper to the we made a mock trilogy as you discussed before
[01:43:37] Of course i'm talking about wind talkers
[01:43:45] No, obviously i'm talking about face off come on face off. It's fucking amazing
[01:43:49] It's one of the most insane action movies ever made, uh, especially in english
[01:43:54] Skate
[01:43:56] So once we kidnap super cop then what?
[01:44:03] Tiny surgery i'd like to take his his face
[01:44:13] Off
[01:44:20] Excuse me. I have to use the little voice we we own him
[01:44:31] cat
[01:44:34] You want to take his
[01:44:36] Face yes
[01:44:38] His face
[01:44:41] Eyes skin
[01:44:46] It's coming off the face
[01:44:55] Uh, it's got and it's got nicolas cage imitating john travolta while john travolta imitates niggolas cage
[01:45:01] And it's got just incredible john wu action set pieces like john wu one of the great action directors of all time
[01:45:07] His career in america
[01:45:09] Relatively mixed but face off is easily his best american movie
[01:45:13] And you know it's just everything that john wu has ever done in movies
[01:45:16] Like expounded upon the 10, you know, it's it's you know
[01:45:19] There's doves and there's speedboat chases and there's dual wielding pistols
[01:45:23] And there's so much cool shit happening in face off and yeah, it's it's a blast
[01:45:27] I think probably the best action movie of a nicolas cage career unless you count my number three pick
[01:45:33] Which we'll talk about later
[01:45:35] Oh
[01:45:36] Interesting
[01:45:37] So yeah, that's my number eight. It's face off and uh, yeah, it's a great one
[01:45:41] So mike, what's your number seven nicolas cage movie? Uh, my number seven nicolas cage movie is uh
[01:45:47] david gordon greens joe
[01:45:49] You paying my boy? What are you paying my boy? Oh, yeah
[01:45:54] I ain't sure you got paid no probably saves it because he's smart by this gmc off of me
[01:46:01] Doing way
[01:46:03] Another yeah
[01:46:06] He ain't so smart. He don't know nothing
[01:46:11] Yeah, neither do you
[01:46:17] I'm gonna shoot you straight
[01:46:19] What
[01:46:41] Yeah, this is the the kind of um
[01:46:43] Kind of kind of pre cage assance kind of kind of the first inklings of the cage assance
[01:46:49] After he'd been in a long string of vod action trailers
[01:46:53] Um, and he gets this really dramatic kind of slow paced
[01:46:59] Just real like crunchy dramatic role and uh, he's great in it
[01:47:04] I loved him in this and I think it was such a refresher at that point in our our episode, you know our
[01:47:10] Our path. I forgot. I can't think of words right now because I'm so worked up about joe mike
[01:47:15] That's really what's going on. I mean it really is very emotionally affecting film. You're crying right now. Just think yeah, I'm crying right now
[01:47:22] Um, yeah that one kid the actor who's great. He's in a bunch of other shit that I forget about
[01:47:26] Ty sherrydon who was in the tree of life and mud and I think now he's what cyclops in the x-band movies
[01:47:31] I guess not anymore, um, but
[01:47:34] But he was a cyclops and x-men apocalypse and uh in dark phoenix and he was also leading ready player one
[01:47:40] Uh also, yes, I was rattling off the entire career of ty sherrydon because that's the thing that I have
[01:47:44] I can't believe that just happened. Yeah
[01:47:46] This jai kourtney motherfucker no, um
[01:47:51] And the whole
[01:47:53] And the guy from doggy dog both as jai kourtney motherfuckers neither one could look anything less alike
[01:48:02] It's not it's not so much as an appearance as a role they play in the movie
[01:48:08] Sure, although ty sherrydon plays a pretty
[01:48:11] Yeah, exactly. It's more of an emotional thing. Jai kourtney is a state of mind
[01:48:16] By the by the way the next the next series of the complete works will be the jai kourtney
[01:48:20] Damn it
[01:48:24] No and the whole backstory
[01:48:26] Get the fuck out of here with that the whole behind the scenes backstory
[01:48:30] Uh about the the the actor man, uh the guy that plays the father in this movie
[01:48:35] Uh being like an actual homeless alcoholic man that kind of like they just found and then he
[01:48:40] Disappeared and then he died I think it's actually in real life. He's actually dead. Um, that's why he became out of something like that
[01:48:46] Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, there's a whole there's a whole lot of stuff going on with joe. Yeah, there is absolutely joe very good movie
[01:48:51] Uh directed by David Gordon green uh and definitely let the earliest indicator
[01:48:54] By like the cage of sance is a thing that could happen in the near future and yes, man
[01:48:58] Be a finally kind of coalescent to something uh and for my number seven
[01:49:02] I'm going all the way back to episode five of this podcast
[01:49:06] What we're allowed
[01:49:08] In the year
[01:49:11] 1984 uh a movie directed by Richard Benjamin and written by Steve cloves who will go on to write most of the harry potter movies
[01:49:17] This movie was maybe the biggest like delightful surprise for me this entire podcast is one that has stuck with me
[01:49:23] Uh since we reviewed it. I am talking about uh 1984 is racing with the moon
[01:49:33] When the heat's on there's nobody can lay down a set of pins faster than me. I'm the best you got
[01:49:37] No, you're not
[01:49:39] Oh
[01:49:40] Well then you got me boss
[01:49:43] Wow
[01:49:44] Which is just a terrific coming of age story
[01:49:48] Two teenagers in 1940s during the summer right before the shift off of world war two
[01:49:53] The cage had already popped up in a few movies up to that point obviously there's episode five of this podcast
[01:49:57] So I mean he was already in valley girl, right valley girl who already come out
[01:50:00] He was already kind of pretty well known about that point
[01:50:02] I think this was his first like really great performance in a movie
[01:50:06] Or at least his first really great really substantial performance at least outside of of course his role in best of times
[01:50:10] um
[01:50:13] And it's just so much fun. I love like the friendship between him and shan pen
[01:50:15] I love like nicolas cage's rolls kind of the troublemaker in town
[01:50:18] Uh, there's you know this whole weird subplot where cage and shan pen just are hustling people in pool
[01:50:24] And that's like the 15 minute diversion in the movie that really has no bearing on the rest of the movie
[01:50:28] But it's just so much fun
[01:50:29] And I love the jazzy big band score they've got going on
[01:50:32] Racing with the moon is my number seven and uh, it's a delight
[01:50:35] Do you I mean it's been a long time since we review this movie mike
[01:50:38] Do you remember like anything?
[01:50:40] um, I
[01:50:41] You know hadn't thought about racing with the moon until
[01:50:45] Uh between worlds when you mentioned that nicolas cage stars alongside is it hopper pen?
[01:50:51] sharpenson
[01:50:53] That was technically we're gonna call that a cage reunion. Yes
[01:50:56] And that was the first time I thought about racing with the moon since then
[01:51:01] But I think I think I do remember it being very good. I do remember it being pretty like emotional
[01:51:05] There was kind of a string there where cage was in these
[01:51:08] Kind of like, uh, you know like american graffiti era
[01:51:12] americana movie coming of age movies and there's a couple there in that
[01:51:15] Yeah, a movie which some of them may come up later. I don't know. We'll see yeah
[01:51:18] There was a couple of coming of age movies like I mean best of times is sort of a coming of age thing
[01:51:22] It's sure no, I guess
[01:51:23] But you know there was you know his earliest career
[01:51:25] He was like playing teenagers and a couple of them they were like teenagers who were about to go off to war
[01:51:29] Uh, like like racing with the moon or like with birdie with matthew mone dean
[01:51:32] Or with the best of times and it with that weird little aside that he has
[01:51:36] You know
[01:51:37] Who could forget the boy in blue? No, I'm kidding
[01:51:40] The boy did he go he didn't go to war that movie. I don't know. He was a crew guy. I know it's about sailing
[01:51:45] It was rowing that's rowing
[01:51:47] Fuck man chris from plumber wasn't that movie
[01:51:50] He was you're right
[01:51:53] All right, mike. What's your number six movie for Nicholas cage
[01:51:56] My number six movie is a little bit of a joke
[01:51:58] But also not really because you know, i'm a long time proponent of making this the hashtag crudes cast
[01:52:04] and number six
[01:52:08] What are you doing? Yeah, wow, I was up all night because like all these ideas just kept coming to me
[01:52:15] Um, is that a snake belt new and improved
[01:52:20] Ow, it's even self
[01:52:24] What is that on your head it's called desperation
[01:52:28] I call it a rug rhymes with grug and this one I call it a ride rhymes with grug
[01:52:36] That doesn't it's gonna get us places faster than shoes
[01:52:40] Yeah, try to keep up
[01:52:46] I am so glad if I was thinking about selling like actually when we were starting this like I wonder
[01:52:50] Like if we're gonna bring up the crudes in this podcast like
[01:52:54] Because you know, I I really enjoyed the crudes didn't make my personal top 10
[01:52:58] But I was like, I wonder if we're gonna like work that because I mean hashtag crudes cast it's gotta be yeah
[01:53:04] Not only did it make my top 10 bike. It's my number six
[01:53:07] Yes, it's not even number 10. It's number six. Um, but yeah, I had I actually genuinely really do like the crudes
[01:53:14] It's sometimes you just got to put like a dumb animated kids movie on sure and the crudes is a great choice up there
[01:53:20] You know, I think it's a lot of fun
[01:53:23] Emma stone is in it. I forget who plays the like the advanced human who does the like, you know, the one that has fire
[01:53:29] I think was ryan reynolds. I want to say was ryan reynolds. Is it ryan reynolds? I think that might be right
[01:53:33] Yeah, yeah, yeah crudes cast man. It's great
[01:53:38] Yeah, what's the sloth's name the sloths uh, they hang out with who's uh belt belts
[01:53:43] Yeah, because because he has a belt also a belt. Yeah, cage is ug I think uh his character's name is rug rug crude
[01:53:50] Grug you're right. Yeah. Yeah, and who's the grandma? It's like chlores leechman or something
[01:53:55] Chloros leechman's in that yeah, chlores leechman. I think it's um
[01:53:59] Uh, chlores leechman is the grandma who cage hates uh a kathryn keener is his wife
[01:54:04] That's it and then I think it was yeah, crudes is fucking great. Yeah, then I forget who was the son
[01:54:08] I feel like it was some kind of comedy guy
[01:54:10] Um, yeah, whose name i'm blanking on I want for some reason I want to say chris vermin's plaza, but I don't think that's right
[01:54:15] Uh, so who knows maybe it is but but anyway crudes. It's great. It's a delight
[01:54:22] You know it's k it's a caveman times. What more do you want?
[01:54:25] Uh, and yeah theoretically crudes to december 2020 we may be seeing it happen. So uh, yeah potential
[01:54:32] Stay tuned for a bonus episode in a few years
[01:54:35] All right hashtag crudes cast will live again
[01:54:37] Uh, and now for my number six. I am uh actually going all the way back again to episode four of this podcast
[01:54:45] Uh, yeah, I feel like we covered a lot of the best movies really early on
[01:54:48] In the podcast
[01:54:50] Uh episode four the podcast cage's first collaboration with his uncle, uh, francis forcopla
[01:54:55] I'm talking rumblefish from nice niggas nice. He's coming along then, huh? Oh in Canada, man
[01:55:01] Well if he's bringing friends and i'm bringing friends
[01:55:05] Yeah, but you know how that's going to turn out rosty james
[01:55:07] Everybody will end up getting into it you bring people he brings people you're gonna have to fight
[01:55:11] If you think i'm going to that vacant lap by myself, man, you're fucking crazy
[01:55:15] Come on. Watch your language over there. Watch it
[01:55:18] Break it down break it down cool it off
[01:55:21] You're smoky steve goes wherever I go
[01:55:24] Steve come here sit down
[01:55:27] Damn the rusty james has been a long time since we've had that kind of trouble chicken smoke
[01:55:31] Oh smoke's a chicken
[01:55:33] Bok bok bok
[01:55:35] Smoky doesn't work company does smoking wait a second
[01:55:38] DJ
[01:55:39] I
[01:55:44] What you don't want to come fine, we don't need to james. You know i'm gonna be there man
[01:55:51] But you know what the motorcycle boy said about gang motorcycle boy hasn't been around for two months
[01:55:55] So don't go telling me about that. What if the motorcycle boy came back and found out what?
[01:56:01] I said what if your brother came back and found out
[01:56:04] My brother ain't back man. All right. I'm sick of hearing this shit
[01:56:08] Which is just a terrific experiment for in support copula
[01:56:11] And a great companion piece of the outsiders too both, you know both copula movies both
[01:56:16] Based on s.e. hinton novels
[01:56:18] But where the outsiders is like, you know kind of the more mainstream approach to adapting this kind of novel
[01:56:23] Rumblefish is like the complete opposite
[01:56:26] And it's you know cage and a supporting role in this movie
[01:56:29] About the gorgeous, you know black and white cinematography the incredible score from a stewart copeland from the police
[01:56:35] Just that kind of like constant percussion going on. That's it's really great
[01:56:39] And the terrific performances from matt dillon who's incredible in this movie mickey roark diane lane
[01:56:44] Like I think this is another one of those like underseen gems that people like, you know
[01:56:47] I feel like it's gotten a little bit more for reputation over the last couple years
[01:56:51] I think criterion put it out didn't you buy the criterion disc at this movie?
[01:56:54] I own the criterion of this. Yeah, and this was one of the ones
[01:56:57] I was referencing with the you know those americana coming of age stories that might show up later
[01:57:02] I had a feeling rumblefish was gonna be coming back
[01:57:05] Yeah, fair enough. Uh, yeah, so you I mean you got the criterion for this
[01:57:08] So yeah criteria put it on blu ray and it's kind of like been rediscovered a little bit
[01:57:11] And you know frances for copla his work has been a little bit more reappraised in recent years
[01:57:16] I feel like I mean he just put out
[01:57:17] Um the new cut of apocalypse now apocalypse now final cut which I saw in three years
[01:57:22] It was great in the new 4k, but he also just did a director's cut of the cotton club
[01:57:26] Which uh, yeah review way back in the day
[01:57:28] I haven't watched it since and I am really interested to watch the director's cut of the movie
[01:57:31] I think it's called the cotton club on core and I've it's on blu ray for like $15
[01:57:35] So I might just like you know jump on it and see uh, see how it see how it goes
[01:57:39] But yeah, so uh rumblefish though. I think one of copla's best movies
[01:57:44] That I've seen at least and I've seen a good chunk of copla's movies
[01:57:47] And you know very early supporting for on some cage
[01:57:50] Again not in too much of the movie, but he's a significant enough presence where it's like
[01:57:53] Yeah, this is kind of a cage movie, but also just the movie itself just so good on it
[01:57:58] Yeah, I can't wait to watch that uh chris here again or well to watch it again on that chris here in addition
[01:58:04] That I'm sure that's dope. All right my number five pick coming in hot
[01:58:09] In the top five starting that we made at my trilogy with the work
[01:58:12] Why didn't you just tell them where the microfilm was and
[01:58:16] Create a solution
[01:58:19] The moment they had the microfilm they'd suicide me some solution
[01:58:24] I'm going to end it up here
[01:58:26] This brings me to another question
[01:58:29] And broke out. Let me see if I can get this straight
[01:58:33] You went down the incinerator chute on the mine garden
[01:58:37] The tunnels to the power plant
[01:58:39] Under the seam engine that was really cold by the way
[01:58:43] And into the cistern through the intake pipe, but
[01:58:47] How in the name of zoos is butthole?
[01:58:51] Did you get out of yourself?
[01:58:54] I only asked because in our current situation
[01:58:57] Well, it
[01:58:58] Could prove to be useful information
[01:59:00] Maybe you're starting with the rock. I was thinking about the rock is one of my honorable mentions
[01:59:05] Uh, and it's fucking great and you know, there was a time
[01:59:09] When I liked the rock a little bit more than face off time like brought face up
[01:59:13] I think I've seen face off more since then like I've watched face off a couple of times since we reviewed it
[01:59:17] Okay, and so face off like inched a little bit ahead for me, but the rock still fucking great
[01:59:21] Yeah, this movie rocks. Hey, um, this is one of those movies
[01:59:26] Where you know, uh, if it's ever on tv like if you're flipping even if you find like the tnt or tbs cut
[01:59:32] Like you gotta stop and watch see what's going on even one commercial break, you know just to check it out
[01:59:39] And it's it's just it's nico's cage shone connery
[01:59:42] breaking into
[01:59:44] Alcatraz to stop ed harris the terrorist
[01:59:47] Yeah, what were you I need to say to get you to watch this movie
[01:59:50] I know it's great. There's a there's a hammer chase in the beginning because it's 1994 or whatever the fuck this movie is
[01:59:56] Uh, yes, 96. Uh, so there's a hammer chase
[02:00:01] And it's shone connery is just old and grumpy and it's great. He breaks out of prison with a quarter
[02:00:09] It's awesome. Yeah, and it is michael bay before he like, you know
[02:00:12] He was taking hollywood by storm already with the one two punch like bad boys in the rock
[02:00:16] But like full bayhem would not be achieved yet
[02:00:19] This was like slightly more restrained michael bay and a new michael bay movie just dropped in netflix
[02:00:24] Called six underground, which I have not watched yet. I've heard the first 20 minutes are like fucking amazing
[02:00:29] And the rest of the movie is very questionable, but
[02:00:31] Which sounds like a michael bay movie to me
[02:00:33] Yeah, but uh, i'm really curious to watch it and see how it plays because I've heard like, you know
[02:00:36] This new one it's like, you know netflix's approach
[02:00:38] You just don't give any studio note just let the auteur do whatever they want and that's a very dangerous thing to do for michael bay
[02:00:43] So
[02:00:45] But the rock is like I think it's the best version michael bay. It's most of the best parts of him and
[02:00:51] The least amount of the worst parts of him
[02:00:54] All in one uh all in one movie it's still I I think pain and gains is best, but the rock is a very close second
[02:01:00] I love which stars the rock which stars the rock there you go layers
[02:01:05] charlie with the connection to the board
[02:01:07] carol
[02:01:10] All right now let's move on to my number five nculus cage movie of all time, uh, which features my favorite nculus cage performance of all time
[02:01:16] It's adaptation
[02:01:18] Episode 39 of this podcast directed by spike jones written by charlie kaufman
[02:01:22] I just don't want to ruin it by making a hollywood thing, you know, like like like an orchid heist movie or or something
[02:01:28] you know or
[02:01:29] You know changing the orchids into poppies and
[02:01:33] Turning into a movie about drug running, you know, why can't there be a movie simply about flowers?
[02:01:39] I guess we thought that maybe
[02:01:41] Susan or lean and and and larage could fall in love. Okay, but i'm saying it's like I don't want to cram in sex or
[02:01:49] guns or car chases
[02:01:52] you know or characters
[02:01:54] you know
[02:01:56] learning profound life lessons or
[02:01:59] Growing or coming to like each other or overcoming obstacles to succeed in the end, you know
[02:02:03] I mean it's it's the book isn't like that and and life isn't like that
[02:02:07] You know, it just isn't and
[02:02:13] I feel very strongly about this and like I said, okay
[02:02:16] Just finest performance the academy gave him his second nomination for this one
[02:02:20] And the dual role of charlie and donald kaufman really only the beginning of how meta this movie gets
[02:02:25] I mean it's a great
[02:02:26] Great hollywood satire and a look at a man driving himself insane for the pursuit of great art
[02:02:32] And then finding only really finding a semblance of happiness in like selling out and getting into a commercial success
[02:02:37] I think
[02:02:38] You know it's charlie kaufman kind of analyzing his own neuroses, but also analyzing the state of hollywood in general and I love it
[02:02:44] It's so much fun
[02:02:46] But also very emotional and very intense and meryl streep is great in the movie
[02:02:49] chris cooper is really great in the movie
[02:02:51] And you know it's I love the connections to being john mouth which started happening in this movie too because charlie kaufman
[02:02:56] Had written that movie and also despite jones directed it and so you have like, you know
[02:03:00] John q that just popped up like wordlessly in the middle of a scene and that kind of thing
[02:03:04] And that's fun. So yeah adaptation is my number five nipples case movie of all time. It's great
[02:03:08] I can't believe that's the number five for you
[02:03:10] I feel like that that could have been a way higher movie if I had to make a list of what I thought your number your
[02:03:15] list would be
[02:03:18] We should have like made lists for each other to figure out like what like matched up done predictions
[02:03:24] Yeah, that's my number five, uh, that's pretty funny because my number four pick is adaptation
[02:03:29] There it is
[02:03:32] Yeah, everything, uh, mike just said yeah, I agree. I concur ditto
[02:03:37] It's got one of my favorite things like where like where he goes to like that writing class or whatever
[02:03:42] And uh, brian cox is teaching it right
[02:03:45] Yeah, and he tells him never ever use a day of sex machina and then the movie ends with him getting saved by an alligator
[02:03:52] You get saved by a day of sex machina. Um, yeah
[02:03:55] I mean this is just what a what a fucking performance from cage doing the dual roles and like you mentioned earlier
[02:04:00] Uh, where it's like you can always tell exactly which one like who is who even when they're only on screen separately
[02:04:06] And I think I remember recently. I don't remember what it was. It might have been one of those like, um
[02:04:10] Vanity fair like top rolled things that cage did he might have done one of those videos and he talked about uh
[02:04:16] You know, they filmed one scene as one as like one of the characters and then he put an earpiece in
[02:04:21] Uh and filmed the other half of the scene with his dialogue being fed back to him
[02:04:25] So like that's how you'd film both halves
[02:04:27] Which is pretty wild. That's a pretty cool way to have to make this movie and cage is just he's just
[02:04:32] He's just perfect chef's gifts in this movie. Yeah, he is he is fantastic
[02:04:35] So yeah, that was adaptation my number five and mike's number four
[02:04:37] Uh, I don't know if my number four, uh, remember how I prefaced this by saying like we're doing any movie that we covered in this podcast
[02:04:43] Even if nicklas cage is barely in the movie
[02:04:45] Uh, because that's where this is coming back to we're going all the way back to episode two
[02:04:50] Ha for this podcast
[02:04:52] My number four pick uh for the best movies that we've covered
[02:04:55] Uh as fast times were as went high
[02:04:58] Sir, if you just give me a minute, I'll find the forms. I'll take care of everything. I don't have a minute. You've made me lady now
[02:05:04] I am so tired of dealing with incompetence. It says 100 guaranteed you moron
[02:05:11] Mr. If you don't shut up. I'm gonna kick 100 percent of your ass
[02:05:15] That doesn't count
[02:05:16] That's why I prefaced it by saying it does
[02:05:20] Okay, that's fair. You cheated. That's why I warned you ahead of time that it would count
[02:05:24] Uh, yeah, this one is a bit of a cheat because cage is maybe in four seconds of this movie
[02:05:30] Does he have any lines? I don't think he even says anything zero lines
[02:05:33] He has a reaction shot when judge ryan holds being fired in the uh in the fast food joint and that's pretty much it
[02:05:40] I think he also pops up in the opening montage of kids like in high school
[02:05:44] Where like puts a kick me sign somebody's back or something like that
[02:05:47] Yeah, but yeah fast time first run high. I know cage is barely in this movie
[02:05:50] But he is in it. We did cover it on this podcast because this is the complete works
[02:05:55] Uh, and this is one of my favorite movies of all time. So I feel like I had to be on
[02:06:00] Fair uh, this is directed by Amy Heckerling who would go on to make clueless and look who's talking movies and uh
[02:06:06] A couple of other big things european vacation
[02:06:09] But uh, yeah, we covered this movie accounts. It's great. It's one of the best high school movies of all time
[02:06:14] I think filled with just memorable characters and relatable situations. I think it's funny. It's sometimes devastating
[02:06:18] It's got a great soundtrack
[02:06:20] Very early performances from jennifor jason lee and judge ryan hold and feedy kates and his race worth moon co-star shan pen
[02:06:26] Uh and forest woodiker and a whole lot more and of course, nicholas cage
[02:06:31] Uh who again barely in the movie. I know this movie shouldn't technically be on the list of the best nicholas cage movies
[02:06:38] But we did cover this movie on the podcast and I am putting it out in there because
[02:06:42] It's my list and it's my list and I can do what I want to so
[02:06:46] Yeah, god damn it. It's our podcast
[02:06:48] All right, so that's my number four pick. I know uh, I'm guessing that means you didn't pick fast
[02:06:55] No, I did not pick fast on the first one high. Okay. What movie did you think I was gonna pick out of curiosity or maybe it'll pop up
[02:06:59] One of our lists, so maybe it'll pop up. We'll see. Okay. Uh, what's your number three movie of uh,
[02:07:04] Frenniful's cage mic
[02:07:06] My number three movie, uh, is the jill and ethan cohen's raising arizona
[02:07:11] All right, fair enough. Look at that. I don't know why I said that like so definitively like, huh
[02:07:16] Yeah, raising arizona. I mean what we talked about it
[02:07:20] What no you said as if like nobody had ever thought about picking raising arizona
[02:07:24] as one of the best nicholas cage movies
[02:07:28] Yeah, you fools you pleads I picked raising arizona
[02:07:32] You absolute philistines
[02:07:36] Yeah raising arizona is great. That's all I gotta say. I don't know we talked about it a bunch before in the talk performances
[02:07:41] Um, that's all I don't want you to say anything more. There's ramy cam. That's dope
[02:07:48] Yeah fair enough. So yeah raising arizona. I'm getting a little punch drunk mic
[02:07:52] I mean so am I it's it's whatever it's you know
[02:07:55] We're almost like we're like two hours into the podcast. I think we can we've earned that right?
[02:07:59] Yeah, but yeah raising arizona. It's great. Love that movie might pop up on my list later on
[02:08:04] We'll see what happens. We'll see we're kind of running out of space here. I don't know
[02:08:08] Well, we'll see what happens Mike. Who's the say what?
[02:08:12] Allegedly, I didn't say it will happen. Uh, all right
[02:08:16] Now my number three movie of the of the year of nicholas cage is a career
[02:08:21] We could do a top 10 list of just movies the cage put out in one year, but
[02:08:25] We could we could do that
[02:08:26] But no my number three movie that nicholas cage ever started in one that we covered very recently on the podcast
[02:08:31] Episode 88
[02:08:33] Of the show uh directed by miss miss yours. Peter Ramsey, rodney rothman and bob perichetti
[02:08:38] It's a movie called spider man
[02:08:40] Into the spider
[02:08:42] My name is peter parker. My name is penny parker. My name is peter parker. I was bitten by a regular
[02:08:50] In my universe it's 1933 and i'm a private
[02:08:53] I like to drink egg creams and I like to fight nazis a lot
[02:08:57] I'm from new york into year 31 45
[02:08:59] I have a psychic link with a spider who lives inside my father's robot and we're best friends forever
[02:09:05] Sometimes I let matches burn down to my fingertips just to feel something anything
[02:09:10] Fair which is you know, I think you know cage again
[02:09:14] He's a highlight of this movie. Absolutely a highlight of the movie spider man noir
[02:09:17] But he is just one part of a pitch-perfect ensemble in this movie
[02:09:21] Uh, and I love this movie so much
[02:09:23] And the 2010s have been pretty defined by supergirl movies as like the go-to blockbuster
[02:09:27] And there are movies that are more popular than spider verse. There are movies that made more money
[02:09:31] But this is the best superhero movie of the decade and one of the all-time greats nicles cage
[02:09:35] So much fun of spider man noir everything about the movie from its style to its message just feels like effortlessly revolutionary
[02:09:42] In a way that very few movies really feel anymore
[02:09:45] And uh, you know just I mean just the animation of this movie alone
[02:09:47] We talked about it a lot not that long ago, so I won't go too deep into it
[02:09:51] But spider man into the spider verse. It's great
[02:09:54] It's on Netflix right now people should go watch it
[02:09:56] And it's a page it's a light in the movie again only in like maybe five ish minutes of the movie all told
[02:10:01] Like he's in he's in the movie throughout but like if you kind of compile all his scenes together
[02:10:05] He's like in five minutes basically
[02:10:06] Yeah, but he is absolutely fantastic as spider man noir
[02:10:10] Like I used to love that character like you know growing up. I love spider man
[02:10:14] He's always been my all-time favorite superhero
[02:10:16] I played a lot of spider man games
[02:10:17] I read a lot of comics and spider man noir
[02:10:19] Was you know just one that I always had a lot of fun with and when I heard that nicles cage
[02:10:23] Going to play spider man noir. I was like I couldn't believe this was happening
[02:10:26] So yeah, it's like the dream come true and he was so much and he was so much fun again doing his Humphrey Bogar impression
[02:10:31] Right as spidey noir
[02:10:34] So yeah, that's my number three pick for the best niggles cage movie of all time
[02:10:38] Wow, uh, that's pretty funny because my number two pick
[02:10:42] It's spider man into the spider verse
[02:10:44] Which is the movie that I thought you were warning us about uh for being well no matter how little cage is in
[02:10:51] Uh, you know, we're still gonna count which is also the movie. I forgot about and bumped mother man dent number 11
[02:10:58] There it is. So I forgot about my number two pick Mike. Man, that's nuts
[02:11:03] Wow audible game changer. Absolutely. Yeah, you're playing with fire there, Mike. Yeah close to the edge
[02:11:09] Hey, if you wait till the last minute it only takes a minute
[02:11:13] Yeah
[02:11:15] And like you said, uh, it's just this movie revolutionized. Uh, I think animation animated movies, uh superhero movies
[02:11:21] It's I think the best superhero movie of the last however many years
[02:11:26] You want to say?
[02:11:28] Um, which is pretty funny because it's this kind of little like one-off thing on the side and it's going to change the game forever
[02:11:33] Um, it's got my girl spider gwen in it. We talked about that
[02:11:36] We just did like you said we just did an episode on this recently
[02:11:40] But go listen to us wax poetic on that episode, uh, because we spent a long time just being like this movie is great
[02:11:45] And it really is it is really great
[02:11:48] It's my number two movie all time
[02:11:50] Of of nick for nicholas cage you're saying for nick less cage or whatever. I don't know who knows
[02:11:55] Okay, well that would make your number one pick your favorite movie of all time just
[02:11:58] Okay, all right never mind. Yeah
[02:12:01] Uh, all right apparently not as passionate about number one. Maybe you're number one should have been spider-wiss
[02:12:07] All right my number two movie
[02:12:09] One of my favorite filmmakers and one that um, you know
[02:12:12] I was a fan of this guy. I was a fan of this filmmaker before we started the podcast
[02:12:15] But I became a much bigger fan of this filmmaker after we started the podcast
[02:12:19] Uh, i'm talking about david lynch with wild at heart for number two nickless grace
[02:12:23] Peanut i'm thinking of breaking parole on taking you out to sun california
[02:12:28] Say what?
[02:12:32] I'd go the far end of the world for you, baby
[02:12:35] You know I would
[02:12:37] Rockin good news
[02:12:40] Those two meals about dry it sweeter
[02:12:47] We got some dance on the day you texted me the other day and you were listening to our whole episode of wild at heart
[02:12:52] Um, and you and you were like man. We were we were so young then you hadn't even watched twin peaks yet
[02:12:58] I was like, oh my god, you're right. Uh, yeah, the twin peaks which has since become one of my all time favorite shows
[02:13:03] This was before twin peaks the return had happened. I think it had been announced
[02:13:06] Um, I think we might talk about that in the episode or like it don't I don't think so yet because you were like
[02:13:11] Oh, actually, no, it was yeah because you say like oh well this just got announced
[02:13:15] So I want to watch the whole series before then right um, yeah
[02:13:18] Yeah, so twin peaks the return had like just been announced
[02:13:21] Uh, relatively recently and I had like was starting to make plans like all right
[02:13:25] I'm gonna start watching twin peaks to catch up in time before twin peaks the return
[02:13:28] Uh, so I hadn't actually watched twin peaks at the time. I watched wild at heart
[02:13:31] Uh, like some kind of schmuck, you know, and you fool
[02:13:36] But I was david lynch fan based on what I had seen at the time
[02:13:38] I'd seen blue velvet. I'd seen a razor head a couple other things here and there
[02:13:41] Uh, but now like I've dived into most of his work and become a much bigger david lynch fan
[02:13:45] And I'm a twin peaks superfan like I love that show and I think twin peaks the returns one of the great
[02:13:49] Like arguably the greatest tv season of all time. It's incredible
[02:13:53] Uh, and wild at heart is one of my very favorite david lynch things
[02:13:57] It is weird and it's funny and it's silly and it's scary and it also has a lot of heart
[02:14:02] And it's very wild
[02:14:05] And you know a lot of that heart was present in twin peaks, but isn't often shown in his movies
[02:14:09] I feel like his movies tend to be a little bit darker than to then tweak between peaks actually was
[02:14:12] Um, but this movie feels very much of a piece with the original series of twin peaks
[02:14:17] Because it was made right around the same time features a lot of the same cast members
[02:14:20] I think sharon fenn shows up for a little bit
[02:14:22] And a couple other couple other I think I'm sure ali also shows up for uh,
[02:14:26] She plays glinda the good witch actually it's very end of the movie
[02:14:29] That's right. I forgot that's how the movie ends
[02:14:32] But the very heart of the movie is nicklas cage and laura durne together and they are incredible one of the great
[02:14:37] Cinematic couples of all time and we talked about cage performance earlier in the episode as sailor rippley
[02:14:41] He is so much fun
[02:14:42] I just love that criminal element that he brings to the movie
[02:14:44] But also that kind of like genuine love and affection that he has for laura durne
[02:14:48] And also the kind of weird outsized nicklas cage funny things that he does
[02:14:52] It's just great. Wild at heart. That is my number two pick for the best nicklas cage movie of all time
[02:14:58] And now I have a guess as to what your number one
[02:15:00] movie
[02:15:01] Is mike and I feel I think it could go a couple different ways
[02:15:05] But here's interesting. Here's what it'll be
[02:15:07] Um, I'm locking in a guess in my head. So why don't you tell me why don't you tell me right now?
[02:15:13] What's your number one?
[02:15:14] Nicklas cage movie of all time
[02:15:16] Pause real quick a fun a fun thing was uh, not red rock west
[02:15:21] I don't know. I did that wild at heart in that episode
[02:15:23] You uh, I believe mentioned some cage reunions and you say it'll be fun to track these for the rest of the thing
[02:15:28] So like that was like kind of the birth of your idea of cage reunions is that
[02:15:33] Is in that
[02:15:34] Uh, and I thought that was a a delightful walk down memory lane that we should all share
[02:15:38] That's pretty cool. I like that. That's pretty neat. Yeah
[02:15:41] Now back to my number one movie of all time
[02:15:44] Sure. I've I've caged now
[02:15:46] Caged movie of all time. I only watched nicklas cage movies. So these are the best movies ever made
[02:15:52] I've never seen any other movies
[02:15:55] And I've been trapped in this endless podcast hell for four years
[02:16:00] But the tunnel at the end the light at the end of that tunnel at the podcast hell
[02:16:05] Was mandy. I never was mad. That's the guess that I'd locked in my head. Yeah. Yeah, come on. Of course it's mandy
[02:16:24] Oh
[02:16:28] It's the distillation of everything we love about cinema. I think uh, just fucking bonkers balls out swing for the fences
[02:16:35] Uh, auteur cinema tm. Uh, however you want to say it, uh
[02:16:39] Yeah, and it's it's the it's actually I think it like we've been using the joke of like the natural evolution thing
[02:16:46] Uh, but I think it's true about mandy. It's like actually a real the real answer to that question if
[02:16:51] for mandy
[02:16:52] It's heavy metal. It's psychedelic. It's fucking weird latex knife dick coke snorting violence
[02:17:00] Uh eyeballs getting popped out
[02:17:03] It's just it's great. There's a tiger in a scene for some reason
[02:17:07] I don't know why I still haven't cracked that scene
[02:17:10] Yeah, but yeah, this is the movie I'm going to come back to you for the rest of my life probably
[02:17:14] Yeah, mandy's so fucking good. We uh, we're both big fans of that movie
[02:17:17] Really the true arbor of the cage of sans did not make my top 10. It was very close
[02:17:21] It's an honorable mention for sure. Okay
[02:17:24] But it did not quite reach top 10 level. It is great
[02:17:28] It's awesome and definitely features one of nicole cage's best performances
[02:17:31] In my estimation is number two best performance of all time. You're number one
[02:17:35] But uh, but yeah, he's incredible in the movie and mandy just the visual style that movie panoscosmato is just
[02:17:41] Going all out on what he was doing there and I mean the soundtrack too. We didn't mention before yo-han yo-han
[02:17:47] Yeah score
[02:17:49] Incredible there great support and performances from angiara's bro as mandy and linus roach as jeremiah sand
[02:17:54] Just fantastic all around like everything about mandy is so so good
[02:17:58] And a worthy contender for your number one spot. Oh, you'll allow it. I'll allow it
[02:18:05] Thank you. But watch yourself counselor
[02:18:11] Mandi is mic's number one nicole's cage movie of all time
[02:18:14] And now you can probably guess what my number one nicole's cage movie of all time is
[02:18:18] Uh, because I kind of alluded to the fact that this movie would appear on the list at some point
[02:18:21] It's my halloween costume from this year
[02:18:25] Directed by miss yours joel and ethan cohen episode 10 of this podcast
[02:18:29] I am of course talking about raising arizona from 1987
[02:18:34] Which one you get? I don't know nathan jr. I think give me here
[02:18:38] Here's the instructions
[02:18:41] Oh
[02:18:42] He's beautiful. Yeah, he's awful damn good. I think I got the best one. I bet they were all beautiful all babies are beautiful
[02:18:50] This one's awful damn good though. Don't you cuss around him? He's fine. He is
[02:18:55] I think it's nathan jr. We are doing the right thing aren't we high?
[02:18:58] I mean they had more than they could handle well now honey
[02:19:01] We've been over this and over this and there's what's right and there's what's right
[02:19:05] And never the twain she'll meet don't you think his mama will be upset? I mean overly well, of course
[02:19:10] She'll be upset sugar, but she'll get over it
[02:19:13] She's got four little babies almost as good as this one
[02:19:17] So that's when I was arriving convenience store
[02:19:32] Episode 10 that's crazy. Yeah, we watched this movie like
[02:19:37] Three or four years. It was 2015. I think we watched raising arizona and I recently rewatched it
[02:19:42] And I I didn't even need to I've seen raising arizona. I can't count the number of times
[02:19:46] I have seen this movie. It's one of those things that I've just been watching
[02:19:49] Like, you know on a loop since I was 10 or 11 years old
[02:19:51] I love this movie so much to one of my very favorite co-embrer this movies
[02:19:54] Uh, and it was my favorite cage movie before we started this podcast
[02:19:58] It remained my favorite cage movie
[02:20:00] When it was all set nothing changed
[02:20:03] Uh, I mean I was introduced to a lot of great movies and I and a lot of movies that I hadn't seen before
[02:20:07] Made my top 10 but raising arizona. I think it's just so ingrained into my personality and into my memories
[02:20:12] Like I can't get rid of raising arizona and I just rewatched recently. It's a perfect movie. It's great
[02:20:17] It's a supremely rewatchable
[02:20:19] Again, one of cage's best performances along with one of holly hunter's best performances too. I think she is
[02:20:23] Incredible in the movie. I like as good as cages in the movie
[02:20:27] I think holly hunter is equally as good
[02:20:29] Uh, and you know, she's like I love nipples cage
[02:20:31] But I feel like I imitate holly hunter's lines in the movie more
[02:20:34] In the movie, you know, just the way she's like she has like weird like she has like weird cage line readings in the movie
[02:20:41] Where she is like, you know, we got a child now everything's changed
[02:20:45] That kind of thing. It's great
[02:20:46] And it's you know, the co-embrothers at their zaniest
[02:20:49] With a bit of like the same ramy streak in them too like back when they were like hanging out with same ramy a lot
[02:20:55] And so you get like the ramy cam a little bit when they do the push up into the into the bedroom window and everything
[02:21:00] It's great the yololing soundtrack and never gets sick of that
[02:21:04] And it's a movie that is so like immediately immersive that like when the title finally shows up
[02:21:08] It's after an 11 minute narration and it's like a genuine shock
[02:21:12] Because you feel like no time is like but it's genuinely like when you
[02:21:15] Like when I watched the movie, I think when I watched it again for the podcast
[02:21:18] I had to like I checked the time to see when the title came up and it was like 11 or 12 minutes in
[02:21:22] It's like how how did I not realize that this too much time had passed and how
[02:21:25] Like how insane is it for them to just begin a movie with a 10 minute narration from Nicholas Cage?
[02:21:31] Like like detailing all backstory like not it's it's pretty nuts
[02:21:35] It doesn't play out the rules of cinema, but it is so much fun
[02:21:38] One of Joel and Ethan Cohen's best movies and my favorite Nicholas Cage movie is raising arizona from 1987
[02:21:44] There it is
[02:21:45] Yeah, and that was your number three on the on the list Mike. Yes my number three. Yeah
[02:21:49] Yeah, that's a good spot for it too, but it's
[02:21:53] But it's the best
[02:21:56] And then a couple of honorable mentions I want to throw out there
[02:21:59] Mandy and the rock were on your list Mike
[02:22:01] So I wanted to throw out leaving Las Vegas
[02:22:04] Vampires kiss again classic new bill tash movie and red rock west which um is a great
[02:22:10] neo noir
[02:22:11] That we really like when we saw it that actually is like my number 11
[02:22:15] On the list and just couldn't quite make the top 10
[02:22:17] But really really good and one that we were both saying like man
[02:22:20] We should be watching red rock west at some point because it's been a long time
[02:22:23] We remember really liking that movie
[02:22:25] But yeah, anything else any other movies that you wanted to highlight anything that you almost made your cut
[02:22:28] I mean I'm at the weatherman almost made your list weatherman was one off man. Just made it or just missed it
[02:22:34] Um red rock west I listened to our episode of it and we both really liked it
[02:22:37] But I didn't feel comfortable putting it on the list without rewatching it and I just didn't get the chance to
[02:22:43] Rumblefish was on my is in my honorable mentions
[02:22:45] I wanted to put it on there, but I couldn't quite work it out how I could get it on there
[02:22:49] Uh, and then one that just popped into my head while you were talking about racing with the moon
[02:22:54] But I haven't seen it in a very long time, which is birdie
[02:22:57] Which just just got a blu-ray release from arrow and like I was tempted to pick it up
[02:23:02] But I don't really remember anything about it. You know other than Matthew Moudine thinks he's a bird and that's great
[02:23:08] I mean that's that alone, but I remember it also being I think that might be post war
[02:23:13] It's one of those coming of age things. I don't really quite remember exactly
[02:23:15] I think it was both I think it's it's kind of like going back and forth between different errors in their lives
[02:23:19] And so you have like them leading up to the war and then you have been kind of reflecting on war afterwards. I think
[02:23:24] I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really remember but it was lumped in with that kind of like coming of age
[02:23:29] Americana era like racing with moon and rumblefish and that kind of stuff
[02:23:32] Right, so yeah wanted to mention it because I haven't seen it a long time
[02:23:35] I don't remember if it would be make my list, but there you go
[02:23:38] Yeah, fair enough
[02:23:38] And I also wanted to give a shout out to some other movies that we haven't really mentioned that much throughout this episode
[02:23:42] But that I think are great knowing one of my son of a bitch
[02:23:47] Knowing so good. I feel like that's a movie that you really hated when we went into the podcast
[02:23:52] We went into yeah when we went into this and I feel like I like almost convinced you that it was good
[02:23:57] Yeah, he did my great my great victory on this podcast is like knowing like he almost came around
[02:24:04] You almost got me. Uh, yeah, I think that movie is great
[02:24:07] It's you know dumb in certain places and like it's it's shaky at best
[02:24:11] But like it is I think I think it's swinging for some big fences
[02:24:15] It's having a lot of fun. Uh, Drive Angry also is another one that I really love
[02:24:19] That you did not so much
[02:24:22] But another one that I feel like I maybe convinced you a little bit that might be good. Yeah, maybe
[02:24:27] But that's a movie that I think is a blast and we did mention the sex scene in that movie
[02:24:30] In the most insane cage moments as well
[02:24:33] Also Moonstruck we didn't really talk about Moonstruck, but that's a oh, yeah
[02:24:36] A really great early cage movie
[02:24:38] I feel like people know it more as like because Cher was in it. She was the star and everything
[02:24:42] But it's a great romantic comedy and I feel like you know, I feel like when we reviewed it
[02:24:46] I feel like we both kind of reacted to it. I don't think either of us had seen the movie
[02:24:49] Um before we before we watched it. Uh, and we both watched it. We both like, yeah, that was fine
[02:24:53] Like I think we both kind of felt like it was like fine, whatever
[02:24:56] Um as time has gone on as the years have gone on like I've just like I feel like Moonstruck has grown in my estimation in my mind
[02:25:02] I haven't seen it since
[02:25:03] Um, but I've really like, you know thinking about like especially I mean Danny ILO just passed away and so I was like
[02:25:09] Oh, yeah
[02:25:10] Yeah, and so he was in Moonstruck and saw some people tweeting about his role in that movie and that kind of thing and you know
[02:25:15] So it's just it's just not my mind lately. I guess but uh Moonstruck's very good
[02:25:19] Bringing out the dead the martin scorsese movie that nickels cage was in
[02:25:22] Yeah, also a great movie very very good
[02:25:25] And also we we mentioned the rock we mentioned face off. We really haven't mentioned con air at all in this
[02:25:30] podcast
[02:25:32] We left it out. Yeah, it is the redheaded stepchild of the uh, if we made an opiology
[02:25:37] It is definitely it's good. It's fun. It's a it's a very fun action movie
[02:25:40] Um, but you know and it's got an amazing cast, you know with the negation john malchovish and john kewsak
[02:25:46] Steve bushemi and everybody but you know, it's it's it's not as good as the rocker face off
[02:25:50] And it's like by a significant margin, I think
[02:25:53] It's fun. It's a good time, but it's definitely not as good
[02:25:57] And yeah, I'm trying to think of any other movies. I wanted to give a quick shout out to
[02:26:00] I don't know the family man
[02:26:03] I thought about
[02:26:06] Yeah, was it surprisingly good? I don't remember. I think the family man was surprisingly good up until the ending which was deranged
[02:26:12] Oh, yeah
[02:26:13] It was a ridiculous like bananas ending that completely like destroyed whatever good will I have for the movie
[02:26:19] But it was good up to that point
[02:26:21] Early pretty good like it's not like, you know, it's not like a plus great stuff
[02:26:25] But yeah, yeah, it was an enjoyable time to another christmas movie. I think
[02:26:29] That is another or partially takes place at christmas at least. Yeah, you know what it is a christmas movie. Yeah
[02:26:35] Both national treasures. I mean we kind of reference that national treasure to war but you know, that's that's a big one
[02:26:39] You know
[02:26:40] Classic cage for sure classic cage blockbuster gone in 60 seconds. You want to throw that one out there?
[02:26:45] Yeah, sure. Why not gone in 60 seconds classic angeline joe lee, right? I think is in that
[02:26:50] Sure. Yeah, angeline joe lee, uh eight millimeter
[02:26:53] I almost put eight millimeter on the worst, but
[02:26:57] Did you really? Yeah, but like I also kind of like just for the laughs
[02:27:00] Wanted to bring up eight millimeter, but I felt like there were other movies that were more
[02:27:05] Deserving of being on the worst list. Right. Well, that's the thing
[02:27:08] I feel like we've covered so many movies over the course of this podcast
[02:27:10] And I want I want this episode to represent as many of them as possible
[02:27:14] That's which is why I'm just like shouting off like random movies at this point. You're just listing me
[02:27:19] Yeah, kick ass is great g-force guys go watch g-force. Yeah
[02:27:23] Cage plays a gerbil. It's wild
[02:27:26] How about the ant bully, which was you know one of the um
[02:27:29] One of the most insane kids movies I've ever seen in my entire life. What about what about astro boy?
[02:27:34] Astro boy, honestly pretty good. Like I liked astro boy. I thought it was solid
[02:27:41] Again that might be that might be part of the Stockholm syndrome thing that we have going on
[02:27:45] Or that I has to I feel like you've had clearer eyes than I
[02:27:48] A lot of these movies
[02:27:51] Where I was like, yeah astro boy. I mean, you know, it was it was no uh, it was no ant bully, but it was pretty
[02:27:57] No, the ant bully is much worse than astro boy
[02:28:00] Peggy sue got married, which you know had I think that might have been the first time we had cage doing a really weird voice
[02:28:05] That's the nasally voice. Yeah, I think that's a very nasally voice, which he repeated in g-force
[02:28:09] Right, which made more sense in g-force because he was a gerbil
[02:28:14] And Peggy sue got married. He's a human and it's very weird
[02:28:17] But he's great. He has great like, you know musical numbers with jim carrey and everything. That's great
[02:28:22] Not only is he human in Peggy sue got married. He's like a romantic lead. He's doing that fucking voice
[02:28:30] Right, yeah, I mean he's much more believable as a romantic lead in say moonstruck where he's actually given like a really great performance
[02:28:35] And he's very charming and like he's very masculine in that movie and Peggy sue got married. He's like this neboshi
[02:28:39] nasally
[02:28:41] guy
[02:28:42] And it's supposed to play into that like he's supposed to be kind of a loser in the movie that you know, yeah
[02:28:47] But uh, yeah, it's pretty solid stuff there. But yeah, uh any other random cage movies you want to throw out there before we start wrapping this thing out, Mike
[02:28:54] Um, man at this point I can't think anymore. So no
[02:28:59] I think we've exhausted our cage resources final time
[02:29:02] I have I've taken a deep sigh and the last four years of cage have just bled out of me
[02:29:08] I have no more thoughts about cage anymore
[02:29:10] All right
[02:29:11] That's it. I'm done
[02:29:13] Oh man, the curse has been lifted
[02:29:16] The evil has been defeated
[02:29:20] Can't do this cage has been turned to a happy frog. Yes exactly
[02:29:25] Oh man, okay. Yeah, I think we could finally start wrapping this up. We're closing the book on nicholas cage
[02:29:30] I can't believe we're finally saying that it's it's insane
[02:29:33] Uh, and like I said, we will eventually get back to his 29 team performances and beyond at some point with some bonus episodes
[02:29:39] Um for whatever the next podcast that we do is but for now
[02:29:43] We're saying goodbye to our friend Nicholas cage. We've finally gotten in the cage
[02:29:48] Gotten out of the cage
[02:29:51] We're alone in the cage. I can't I don't know
[02:29:54] Yes, we we are getting in we we were in the cage and now we're out of the cage and also, you know despite starring in range
[02:30:02] He is still just Nicholas
[02:30:09] Uh, I I couldn't let the final episode go without one more time doing that
[02:30:17] All right, mike that is the end of the complete works with Nicholas cage. So where can we find you online this week?
[02:30:25] You can find me at mdfilmblog on twitter and letterboxed
[02:30:29] And you can find me at m smith film blog on twitter, uh mike smith film on letterbox from radio mike sandwich on instagram
[02:30:35] Thank you so much for listening to complete works over the last four years. It has meant it has meant a lot to us
[02:30:40] Mike smith, that's my decrease show
[02:30:41] Don't forget to rate and review the show on apple podcast or spotify or any other podcast app
[02:30:46] If you want to contact us hit us up in nicklescagecompleteworks at gmail.com
[02:30:49] And you can find the rest of our podcast on rapture press alongside the review zoo a podcast about comic books and movie news
[02:30:55] And all that nerdy stuff
[02:30:57] So we're not really sure what the future looks like for the complete works yet
[02:31:00] But when we do you're gonna be the first to know about it
[02:31:03] We're gonna put out an episode in january
[02:31:05] Where we figure out who our next podcast will be about
[02:31:09] The name of the podcast might change but mike and mike talking about movies definitely won't
[02:31:15] Because we have two podcasts that do that
[02:31:17] This is also true. Have you got have you gotten your short list down for who you want for the january episode mike?
[02:31:23] Uh, so we we decided we're gonna do five actors a list of five actors
[02:31:27] And we're gonna take turns kind of do hit it out over who our
[02:31:30] Person should be right now my list is at six
[02:31:33] You're at six right now. Okay, so you gotta eliminate one more name and then we're duking it out
[02:31:38] We'll figure it out
[02:31:39] I mean if if we both happen to pick the same name that will probably be the name that we go with but you never know
[02:31:44] Anything's possible. We'll figure out we'll figure out how it goes
[02:31:47] So yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun figuring out who the next episode
[02:31:50] Who the next series of the complete works will be about
[02:31:53] Plus we still got mike and mike go to the movies going on and the next episode
[02:31:56] We'll have us talking star wars the rise of skywalker, which i'm sure will be a calm episode
[02:32:01] And no one will have any strong feelings about it one way or the other. No, I'm sure it'll be a pleasant discussion
[02:32:05] Yeah, it'll be a very pleasant discussion as star wars discussions always
[02:32:10] All right, thank you so much for listening over the years guys and thanks for getting in the cage one last time
[02:32:26] And