Wayans World: A Ranking of our Favorite Wayans Brothers Films

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Wayans Brothers Assemble. This bonus episode is a family affair as we reunite with our hilarious friend Gio. Get ready for laughs, debates, and a whole lot of nostalgia.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_02]: This week on the No More Late Fees podcast we are joined by returning guest, actor, and fellow 90s-2000s lover Gio. Welcome back.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, thank you so much for having me.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, so much stuff has happened since the last time you were here, but especially you're on a wonderful new podcast.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm on a podcast, we're on a hiatus right now, but it's called The Multitasker Podcast.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Love it.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's all about people who do multiple things like all of us here and how to balance that.

[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So we talk to people who are entrepreneurs and actors and own their own businesses, but still working 9 to 5.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And how they do those things while still trying to manage, you know, love life and stay healthy and drink enough water and have a social life.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_04]: That sounds like something every millennial needs because, you know, we're a hyper, what is it? Hyphenate?

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Multi hyphenates.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Multi hyphenate, thank you. Perfect.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So season one and two are up now, and then I'm executive producing a podcast that's going to be called The Tokens Podcast.

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was with my homegirl, Giovanni Samuels. She's the host of it.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's all about talking to people who are the only person of color, either on screen or off screen, and their experiences and how it's impacted them, but also how it's impacted, you know, people coming up in the industry or just viewers being able to see that representation.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's awesome. I can't wait to tune in to both catch up on your, your new podcast and check out hers. When does hers drop?

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Dropping soon. We don't have a date just yet. Some things just happened that we're trying to drop it around the documentary she did quite on set.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We just got nominated for not one, but two Emmys.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Grads to her and the entire team. So we're kind of trying to build it around that, build on that buzz. But yeah, congratulations and shout out to everyone who was a part of that for being brave enough to tell those stories and break down those walls so the next generation of young actors coming through can feel safe, feel heard, and do what they love without feeling like they're being victims or, you know, like they can't comfortably just move through this industry, which they should.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Well, absolutely love it. And when you guys do drop, just tag us and we'll share it.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to rank them. What do we got, Jackie? Which movies?

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So we have Scary Movie, Scary Movie 2, Little Man, Dance Flick, White Chicks, I'm Gonna Get You Sucka, and Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this is hard. Okay. Don't Be a Menace to South Central. That one was like, one of my favorites. But growing up, I like my dad loved I'm Gonna Get You Sucka, so I watched it so many times.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure like you came over to my house and you're like, we are watching this movie.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We have to watch this.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The Goldfish.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I only picked it once.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Really?

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have, like I was gonna say, I have very like spotty memories of it. I remember watching it when I was young.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And the Goldfish in the shoe was like one of the main things I remember.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Gosh, it's really hard to pick which one, but I, I would say my number one would probably be Scary Movie 1 because it was just like we had parodies before, but I don't think we ever, I don't think we ever had parodies of scary movies or like horror movies at the time.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Like poking fun at genres in general.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_02]: What were you gonna say to you?

[00:04:08] Ooh.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: What would be your number one?

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This is hard.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: This is hard.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Because Scary Movie 1, it's between Scary Movie 1 and Don't Be a Menace to South Central.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: For me, if I have one to go number one, I'm gonna probably do Scary Movie though.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Jackie, do you have any thoughts on number one?

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be honest.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Up until last night, I have only seen Scary Movie and I'm gonna get you sucker from this list.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, don't worry.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: A good portion of these are in our timeframe.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So you will be seeing most of these.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna say Scary Movie number one, Don't Be a Menace number two.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Same.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I would probably go white.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: White chicks?

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: No, actually for me I'm.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Scary Movie 2, White Chicks, I'm Gonna Get You Suck.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen Dance Flick or Little Man.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Or no, I did see Little Man, never mind.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen Dance Flick.

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I've gone Scary Movie 1, White Chicks, Scary Movie 2, and then Don't Be a Menace.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So those are my, that's my three.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And then Dance Flick.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, did you just say you've never seen Dance Flick?

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-mm.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Dance Flick was one of those unexpectedly funny movies that I often go back to, just when I need like a chuckle.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure you've seen the clip where she's, where Marlon comes in and she was like, what, what are you doing here?

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm here to pick up my son.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And he picks him up and he's like, hey son.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And that guy, he's like, I'll be back to pick him up again next week.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I have seen that one.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's Dance Flick.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: So Dance Flick, then I'll go, I'm gonna get you sucka and then Lil' Man.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Lil' Man was, eh, it was cool.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't find myself going back to it.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if it just so happens to be on TV and I'm flipping channels and I'm like.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, okay.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: So when I look at this list, I haven't, I'm like, do I, I think I have a lot of nostalgia with Don't Be a Menace.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's been a long time though.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I haven't seen Scary Movie 2.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm really, I don't even know if I've actually watched it all the way through.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to be honest.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It's hard sometimes because there's so many clips.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember if I see, saw it or not.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That's fair.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the one where.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I know what it is.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It's the little hand and like, I know kind of the premise.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't know if I've fully watched it.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So I can't be.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to advocate that Don't Be a Menace before Scary Movie 2.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Only because I haven't seen it.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You can only let you know.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_04]: The rest I'm fine with because I haven't seen Dance Movie or Dance Flick or yeah.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And Little Man, I agree.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It is okay, but it's not their best work.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I implore you to go watch Dance Flick.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I like I struggled with making this list because there's stuff that some of the other Waynes brothers have been in like Damon, like major.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Major pain.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Low Down Dirty Shame.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: But I don't think all of them were involved in like the production.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So my thought process is that there had to be at least two or more Waynes brothers part of the production.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's how I picked the list.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty good list.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Number one, Scary Movie 2, White Chicks 3, Don't Be a Menace 4, Scary Movie 2, 5, Dance Flick 6, I'm Gonna Get You Sucka and Little Man for number seven.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And quick question for all of us.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: If you could have the Waynes brothers remake any movie, which one would you pick?

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And to put some brains on it, let's pick movies from 1995 to 2005.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: If they could remake it.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a tip.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Or a-

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Any Waynes brother for this one?

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Just to know that the Waynes brothers as an entity would remake it.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Or is there a genre that you would like them to like make fun of?

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Or do a parody movie of?

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be interesting to see a remake of Bulletproof because I think the premise was really good.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_02]: There were some questionable things like Adam Sandler pretending to be handicapped in it that we would need to update.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the premise of it was really fun.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'd like to see a remake of that.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: A genre I would love to see them make fun of would be Disney.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Waynes brothers doing a parody on Disney movies I think would be hilarious.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I would go with black church movies.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Tyler Perry or even movies where they dress like women in some form.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Big Mama's House, all that shit.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So white chicks but to the next level.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Just black trauma porn for them to put a spin on it because it's so out of control.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Something called Not Another Church Movie?

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't-

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It had big names in it but they just did not promote it well.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I heard about it and said, oh, that seems interesting.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And then it just floated away.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Same.

[00:09:48] Same.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, that's a thing.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I think these are good choices and I wouldn't-

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen Bulletproof in so long so it'd be interesting.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Would you want it to-

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead, Gio.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm saying you just made me want to go watch it again, Jackie.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, that's a good one.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Would Damon Wayans Jr. just be in the remake?

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a great idea.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And Max Caulfield as Adam Sandler's character.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_04]: As Adam Sandler.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they did- Damon Wayans Jr. and What's-His-Face, who played Nick, they were in a movie where they played cops.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's be cops.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's be cops.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_04]: So it would be two out of one of the-

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do a little Schmidt-Damon Wayans Jr. action.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'd like to have Kim Wayans in it because I just don't see her enough anymore and she's-

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So fucking hilarious.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Kim Wayans is in Dance Flick.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to see her-

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_01]: She plays the horrible school counselor who does not do the job at all.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, Gio.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: So we have another thing for you.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So because we worked at Blockbuster, we asked our guests to give their picks that they would recommend at our virtual video store.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: So you could pick three movies you would recommend for our listeners to go check out.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, any movies?

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: A goofy movie.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch it.

[00:11:26] Um...

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: How are we not surprised?

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch it.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see what else.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to pick stuff that people probably don't typically think about that I enjoy but most people have not like.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: See, this is hard.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: This is so hard.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I-

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: When you are a movie person, there's now a million movies shuffling through my mind.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: This is not fair.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm also a nostalgic person, but oh man.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Why is all this pressure on me right now?

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really-

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: No pressure.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The Kid Cudi movie.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: On Netflix.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an animated film.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's called Interstellar or Intergalactic.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That movie is so good.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What, let me look at-

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Kid Cudi is so fun.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Just-

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Danielle's just throwing that out there.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Intergalactic.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch Intergalactic.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It is so good.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys haven't seen that one.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's an animated film.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's about this guy who's in love with this girl.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course they're going through like this rough patch, but you just-

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_01]: The animation style, I don't want to spoil anything.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Animation style is amazing.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's set to a real life standards, but the way that they're able to tell it

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: with the detailing and the animation just takes it to another level because

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: there are things you can do with animation that you can't do in real life.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's beautiful.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I got to go watch it again.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Intergalactic.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Think of one more, one more, one more.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get people stuff to go see that they probably haven't watched.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's another good one.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, got it.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: There is- what is the name of this movie?

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to my boy Cory Hardrick.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: If you can find this movie, it may be a little bit hard to find right now.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw that film fest a couple years ago, but it's called Destin.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's about a guy who you're looking at two different timelines of his life.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It was the multiverse before the multiverse.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It shows what happens if he makes one choice in life versus another choice in life.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And you see these two parallels of who he becomes playing out at the same time.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_04]: So sliding doors.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, almost like sliding doors.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And it shows how it affects the people around him as well.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But once again, don't want to give anything away, but check it out.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Very good pics. Very good.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And one last shout out of your social handle so people can go check you out.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, at Gio Johnson on everything.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: There's an underscore in there somewhere.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: G-I-O-J-O-H-N-S-O-N.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Just look for this face here.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And we'll put all the links in our show notes.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And don't forget to check us out at NoMoreLateFees on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and threads.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And stay tuned for the Sixth Sense episode next week.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And don't forget to go back and check out our White Chicks episode with Gio if you missed it.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_02]: As well as our Jeepers Creepers episode.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Jeepers Creepers, White Chicks, and I will be back in the virtual video store soon.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_02]: For Bulletproof, perhaps.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really waiting on you guys to do some DCOMs.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I know.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: We only did, so far we've only done Brink and Cheetah Girls.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: The first one?

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a controversial question for you guys on that.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll just leave it to the comments.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Was Galleria the villain of Cheetah Girls?

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Villain apologist.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Villain.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't the villain in part two, but in part one she was the villain.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to say villain.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_04]: She was a little too hyper-focused on...

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, she was driven and she needed to be checked.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't check her and then she didn't care.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And she made fun of Brenda for being poor.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Being adopted.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_03]: She needed a little bit more of a check.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't a solid check.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But...

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: If it would have been me...

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: If it would have been me, Toto would have still been down in that gutter.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not helping you after the way you talk to me.

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Jackal was the real villain.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Jackal was trying to push them into stardom.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he tried to push them, but...

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody changed before they hit the...

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at Pink. Pink was a whole R&B artist before becoming a pop star.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's who...

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Because of the label she signed to.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, I'm not trying to cosplay this light-skinned black woman no more.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And I appreciate that.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I did too.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And I still love Pink to this day.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Sharpay was not the villain.

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Gabriella was.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I had so much fun at you.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have any arguments with that.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_04]: That is outside my scope.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That was way after I was a Disney D-Com kid.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So, I don't know nothing about them high school musical movies.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch it and I'm sure you will come back and be like, Gabriella was a selfish little...

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Something I'm not going to say on here.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And with that, be kind and rewind.