Mean Girls

[00:00:00] Can you believe it's been 20 years since we were first introduced to the plastics?

[00:00:04] To celebrate this pop culture milestone, we're diving deep into the film,

[00:00:08] discussing its timeless themes, unforgettable characters and iconic lines.

[00:00:14] So grab your burn book and let's celebrate two decades of Mean Girls.

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[00:01:00] Welcome to the No More Late Fees Podcast. I'm Danielle.

[00:01:04] And I'm Jackie.

[00:01:05] And we're just two best friends, ex-blockbuster employees, re-watching some of the best and worst movies from the late 90s and early 2000s.

[00:01:13] This week, we are talking about the comedy Mean Girls.

[00:01:17] But before we dive in, let's get into some...

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[00:02:24] We're so excited to have our amazing friend, actress, and new mom.

[00:02:29] And returning guest, Gwen, back to join us.

[00:02:33] Hey, Gwen!

[00:02:34] Welcome back!

[00:02:35] Hi!

[00:02:36] Hi!

[00:02:37] It sounded almost like you were introducing a Halloween episode.

[00:02:39] You're like, we're not alone.

[00:02:43] There's a ghost in here!

[00:02:47] I'm alive.

[00:02:50] She made it, y'all.

[00:02:51] She a mother now.

[00:02:52] I made it.

[00:02:53] We were kind of close.

[00:02:56] No, we're doing just fine.

[00:02:58] Thanks for having me back again.

[00:03:00] We're so glad that you're here.

[00:03:02] So excited.

[00:03:03] Plus, you know, we got to get your numbers up, girl.

[00:03:05] People are starting to get close to how many times you've been on the show.

[00:03:09] Yeah.

[00:03:10] We don't want to stay.

[00:03:11] Yeah.

[00:03:12] I got to stay ahead.

[00:03:14] Yeah.

[00:03:15] If you want to get to know Gwen a little bit better, come back later this week as we play

[00:03:19] a Mean Girls Superlatives game in our bonus episode.

[00:03:23] And don't forget to go back to check out our previous episodes with Gwen, including She's

[00:03:28] All That, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and our Bridget

[00:03:33] Jones' episodes.

[00:03:34] Check out our show notes for all the links.

[00:03:37] And let's get into Mean Girls.

[00:03:40] So this is technically six.

[00:03:43] You're right.

[00:03:44] Because of the lost episode.

[00:03:45] The lost episode.

[00:03:47] The lost episode.

[00:03:48] So, yeah.

[00:03:50] Maybe one day we'll go and re-record.

[00:03:52] You've had other people get close to six?

[00:03:54] That's fun.

[00:03:55] I'm glad you have.

[00:03:56] For real though, I'm glad you have a lot of repeat questions.

[00:03:58] Thank you.

[00:03:59] And we got the best of the best for Mean Girls.

[00:04:02] Me too.

[00:04:05] My insurance guy is going to send you the paperwork for the next of kinship, okay?

[00:04:11] Oh, God.

[00:04:12] All right.

[00:04:13] I will sign whenever I need to sign for you.

[00:04:16] I don't even need to read it.

[00:04:18] Whatever it is.

[00:04:18] Yep.

[00:04:19] Signing.

[00:04:22] So, Mean Girls.

[00:04:24] Teenager Katie Herron was educated in Africa by her parents.

[00:04:28] When her family moves to the suburbs of Illinois, Katie finally gets to experience public school

[00:04:34] and gets a primer on the cruel, tact laws of popularity that divide her fellow students

[00:04:41] into tightly knit cliques.

[00:04:43] She unwittingly finds herself in the good graces of an elite group of cool students dubbed

[00:04:49] The Plastics, but Katie soon realizes how her shallow group of new friends earned this

[00:04:55] nickname.

[00:04:55] It stars Lindsay Lohan, Rachel McAdams, Tim Meadows, Lacey Chabert, Lizzie Kaplan, Daniel

[00:05:03] Franzese, Amanda Seyfried, Amy Poehler, and Tina Fey.

[00:05:07] It was directed by Mark Waters and the screenplay was written by Tina Fey, adapted from Queen Bees

[00:05:13] and Wannabes by Rosalind Wiseman.

[00:05:17] And you can currently watch it on Hulu.

[00:05:19] Before we start, let's get into our ratings rewind.

[00:05:21] So, you know the drill.

[00:05:23] Before we get into the movie, we will reveal the rating our Y2K versions of ourselves would

[00:05:27] give.

[00:05:27] Then at the end, we'll see if our current selves agree with our initial rating.

[00:05:32] Our scale consists of would buy it, would buy it again.

[00:05:35] The best would play on repeat.

[00:05:38] Five day rental.

[00:05:39] Would watch again.

[00:05:41] Two day rental.

[00:05:42] Okay, but nothing to write home about.

[00:05:45] Same day rental.

[00:05:47] Fetch is never going to happen.

[00:05:49] It's trash.

[00:05:51] All right, Gwen, we'll start with you.

[00:05:53] What was your Y2K rating of Mean Girls?

[00:05:57] My rating at the time would be would buy it again.

[00:06:01] Easily.

[00:06:02] I watched it many times.

[00:06:04] I tried to add another option into the thing as a joke and that didn't work.

[00:06:08] I was going to put it on Danielle's.

[00:06:10] Anyway, it was going to say something like would buy it again, but Tina Fey is fired.

[00:06:18] Yes, would buy it.

[00:06:21] Okay.

[00:06:22] Excellent.

[00:06:23] Same, would buy it.

[00:06:25] I owned it, watched it many times, memorized it.

[00:06:29] It's no surprise here.

[00:06:31] Would buy for sure.

[00:06:33] Excellent.

[00:06:33] I even made my own little mini burn book.

[00:06:38] Oh, oh.

[00:06:40] Oh my God.

[00:06:41] So that I can cuss out my haters.

[00:06:45] Do you care to read an excerpt from it?

[00:06:48] I have.

[00:06:48] I have yet to grace this one.

[00:06:51] Oh, brand new.

[00:06:52] This is a new one.

[00:06:53] Yes.

[00:06:53] The other one is done.

[00:06:55] Yeah.

[00:06:55] Yeah.

[00:06:57] You've filled up the previous one and so you need a new one.

[00:07:00] Yes.

[00:07:01] Yes.

[00:07:01] I think it's cathartic.

[00:07:03] So if you are like, especially the last few years has been hard.

[00:07:08] So go ahead and write in there.

[00:07:12] Let's get into.

[00:07:15] Box office.

[00:07:16] Box office.

[00:07:20] More forget burn book more like slam book.

[00:07:24] All right.

[00:07:25] The budget for this movie was $18 million.

[00:07:29] And it made $130.1 million.

[00:07:33] Now, Jackie, I added something in here because when I saw those numbers, I was just like,

[00:07:39] that's it.

[00:07:40] That's all it made.

[00:07:41] Yeah.

[00:07:41] I want to thought it worked.

[00:07:43] Right.

[00:07:44] Bewitched.

[00:07:45] We just did Bewitched.

[00:07:46] Bewitched.

[00:07:47] $131.4 million.

[00:07:50] Bewitched made more than Mean Girls.

[00:07:53] Let that sit in.

[00:07:55] Ow!

[00:07:56] Ow!

[00:07:58] Jackie, at first I thought I was one of your cats.

[00:08:00] Wasn't Bewitched like so stupid?

[00:08:03] It is the dumbest movie.

[00:08:07] That's what I remember.

[00:08:08] From what I remember, it was pretty stupid.

[00:08:11] It's like, you know, in Billy Madison at the end where like the guy's like, we are

[00:08:16] all now dumber for have listened to you.

[00:08:18] That's how I felt with Bewitched.

[00:08:20] Yeah.

[00:08:21] Yeah.

[00:08:21] I don't remember it being good.

[00:08:23] But it made more.

[00:08:24] Like I just.

[00:08:25] But the boomers loved it.

[00:08:27] Because of Nora Ephron.

[00:08:29] That was.

[00:08:29] It's the boomers.

[00:08:30] The boomers did it.

[00:08:31] Fucking boomers.

[00:08:32] It was the last movie they all saw.

[00:08:34] Put that in your burn book, Daniel.

[00:08:36] Wait.

[00:08:37] Let me.

[00:08:38] Let me.

[00:08:39] Hold on.

[00:08:40] The first entry.

[00:08:43] I'm ready.

[00:08:43] So excited.

[00:08:44] In the new burn book.

[00:08:45] I'm giddy with joy.

[00:08:47] Boomers who watched Bewitched.

[00:08:52] Oh man.

[00:08:55] Bewitched earned more money.

[00:08:57] I am flummoxed.

[00:08:59] You're bewitched.

[00:09:00] I am.

[00:09:01] I don't know if you can see.

[00:09:03] Boomers.

[00:09:04] Boomers who watched Bewitched.

[00:09:08] Oh, let me be specific.

[00:09:10] Okay.

[00:09:10] The 2005 movie.

[00:09:13] Yeah.

[00:09:14] Because.

[00:09:15] I don't have any problems with the original.

[00:09:18] No.

[00:09:18] I feel like this book is going to get long tonight.

[00:09:22] That's really funny.

[00:09:23] I.

[00:09:25] That needs to be your burn books.

[00:09:27] Specifically for the podcast.

[00:09:29] Because you got a lot.

[00:09:30] I think you need to keep that going.

[00:09:32] Yeah.

[00:09:32] A lot of hard opinions.

[00:09:35] Tina Fey.

[00:09:36] Okay.

[00:09:37] So she read Rosalind Wiseman's Queen Bees and Wannabes and called Saturday Night Live producer,

[00:09:43] a.k.a.

[00:09:45] Lauren Michaels.

[00:09:46] No, it's not her real daddy.

[00:09:47] But they've got such a strong relationship that it's.

[00:09:51] I think it's pretty much been said that when he finally retires from Saturday Night Live,

[00:09:56] she will most likely be the one to take over his predecessor.

[00:10:00] Oh, that's interesting.

[00:10:02] Very.

[00:10:03] I always thought I was going to be Keenan.

[00:10:05] No, I don't know what deal with the devil he's got going on with that.

[00:10:09] Like, dude, why are you on the show for so long?

[00:10:12] But you know what?

[00:10:13] I'm never going to stand in the way between a black man and a solid chick.

[00:10:17] Anywho, Lauren Michaels, she called him and she said, I want to turn this into a film.

[00:10:24] He contacted Paramount Pictures and purchased the rights of the book.

[00:10:27] And as the book is nonfiction, Faye wrote the plot from scratch,

[00:10:32] barring elements from her own experience at Upper Darby High School

[00:10:36] and her impressions of Evanston Township High School and Newtriar Township High School

[00:10:42] from her time living in Chicago,

[00:10:45] upon which the film's fictional North Shore High School is based.

[00:10:49] So that's how we started to get the rumblings of good old mean girls.

[00:10:55] Well, before we dive into the cast and crew,

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[00:11:59] Okay, so cast and crew, Faye Michaels and Paramount's chairman,

[00:12:05] Sherry Lansing, wanted to cast Lindsay Lohan

[00:12:07] after seeing her performance in Freaky Friday.

[00:12:11] And I believe she was originally cast as Regina,

[00:12:14] but she wanted to play the nice girl, so she switched roles, right?

[00:12:19] So what happened was, first of all,

[00:12:22] the thing about when movies are this big

[00:12:26] and so many people were trying to be a part of it,

[00:12:28] there is so much disinformation.

[00:12:31] I don't know, because different people have interviews,

[00:12:34] but at first it said that they wanted Lindsay Lohan,

[00:12:37] but then I read something that Hilary Duff was offered the role of Katie,

[00:12:42] but she declined.

[00:12:43] Now, I know, not in the thick,

[00:12:46] not in the thick of the Lohan-Duff feud,

[00:12:50] did they think these two were going to be in the same fucking movie together?

[00:12:54] Crazy.

[00:12:55] So I really wonder if that was the truth at all.

[00:12:59] Even though Hilary Duff had star power,

[00:13:02] I feel like this role needed somebody

[00:13:04] with a really strong acting presence.

[00:13:08] This was not just a teeny bopper film.

[00:13:12] No hate to Hilary,

[00:13:13] because I think categorically she has become a better actor.

[00:13:17] I've said that on the show a few times.

[00:13:18] So I kind of side-eyed that one.

[00:13:22] But actually, yes, Lindsay really wanted to play Regina.

[00:13:26] The problem was her team was like,

[00:13:29] because of this fucking feud,

[00:13:31] she was looked at as more the villain

[00:13:34] and not like the good, clean girl

[00:13:36] in comparison to like a Hilary Duff.

[00:13:39] So they were afraid that if she went and played that role,

[00:13:42] that it would just like cause problems.

[00:13:44] So, and I think Lauren and Tina wanted her to play Katie.

[00:13:50] So that's when Rachel McAdams was cast as Regina.

[00:13:55] Faye said that McAdams brought kind of like

[00:13:58] a kind and polite way to the character,

[00:14:02] making her perfect for such an evil spirited character.

[00:14:06] And Walt Waters, Mark Waters,

[00:14:08] because remember they worked together on Freaky Friday.

[00:14:11] He already knew Lindsay.

[00:14:12] He felt like she was a little intimidated by Rachel McAdams,

[00:14:17] I guess when they were like testing each other,

[00:14:19] you know, screen tests.

[00:14:21] And he thought that dynamic, he liked that.

[00:14:24] Originally McAdams had auditioned for Katie,

[00:14:26] but she was deemed a little too old for the character.

[00:14:29] How are you old too old for Katie?

[00:14:32] I think they meant like she had like more maturity to her.

[00:14:36] Less innocence to her.

[00:14:38] That would make more sense than like,

[00:14:40] Lindsay did innocent so well.

[00:14:43] She did.

[00:14:44] Lindsay could do anything.

[00:14:45] I'm sorry.

[00:14:45] She was so good.

[00:14:47] She's such a good actor.

[00:14:48] She is.

[00:14:50] But Hillary and Lindsay together

[00:14:52] would have been a different movie.

[00:14:54] Yeah.

[00:14:55] I mean, I would have loved to see it.

[00:14:57] Danielle would have been there with her popcorn.

[00:15:00] Eating it up.

[00:15:01] I would have had a sleeping bag.

[00:15:04] Why did I sound like I had a lisp?

[00:15:06] I don't know.

[00:15:07] I can't imagine Hillary is doing that.

[00:15:10] Maybe, maybe if she's like.

[00:15:16] I could see her as Katie for a while,

[00:15:20] but not the like manipulative version of her.

[00:15:24] Yeah.

[00:15:25] But yeah.

[00:15:26] Her little scrunchy face she does.

[00:15:29] Who else audition?

[00:15:31] For Katie, we had Kristen Stewart,

[00:15:34] Michelle Trachenberg, and Mae Whitman.

[00:15:36] I love me some Mae Whitman.

[00:15:38] Me too.

[00:15:40] She's just amazing.

[00:15:42] It's so funny that Michelle Trachenberg was in there

[00:15:45] because now we've done a few Lindsay Lohan movies

[00:15:47] and we learned that Michelle was going to be in Parent Trap before

[00:15:51] and she couldn't do it.

[00:15:53] And then she was also supposed to be in Freaky Friday

[00:15:56] and then she couldn't do it.

[00:15:58] So those two keep on just like,

[00:16:01] I guess at that time,

[00:16:02] if you were a certain actress of a certain age,

[00:16:06] it was inevitable.

[00:16:07] But I thought that was interesting.

[00:16:08] It looks like for Karen,

[00:16:11] we had Blake Lively

[00:16:14] and then...

[00:16:15] The producers didn't like her.

[00:16:18] The producers didn't like her.

[00:16:20] I love how the producers just said,

[00:16:22] keep looking.

[00:16:26] So interesting.

[00:16:28] Leighton Meester,

[00:16:30] Haley Duff,

[00:16:31] Kate Mara,

[00:16:31] Megan Fox,

[00:16:32] and Scarlett Johansson

[00:16:34] all were up for the role as Karen.

[00:16:38] I would have loved to see Leighton Meester in this movie.

[00:16:41] That would have been interesting.

[00:16:43] Megan Fox would have been a...

[00:16:45] A choice.

[00:16:47] She's...

[00:16:47] I think she plays a really good, mean girl,

[00:16:49] but like...

[00:16:50] I think she would have done great as Regina.

[00:16:52] Yeah.

[00:16:53] But not as...

[00:16:54] I think that would have been like

[00:16:55] where you would classically put her.

[00:16:57] Yeah.

[00:16:57] But like,

[00:16:58] it'd be interesting to have her play

[00:16:59] sort of against that.

[00:17:01] Yeah.

[00:17:02] And who are we...

[00:17:04] Like,

[00:17:04] Haley Duff,

[00:17:05] four things.

[00:17:05] Somebody really needed to hold her hand

[00:17:07] and say,

[00:17:08] it's just not gonna happen, boo.

[00:17:09] Yeah.

[00:17:10] It's just not.

[00:17:12] Yeah.

[00:17:12] Only if you're with your sister.

[00:17:14] That's it.

[00:17:15] That's the...

[00:17:16] That's it.

[00:17:17] Go do your Hallmark movies

[00:17:18] and call it a day.

[00:17:19] Pack it up.

[00:17:21] I just never saw...

[00:17:22] Like,

[00:17:23] I didn't see the talent.

[00:17:25] No.

[00:17:26] I...

[00:17:27] There was nothing about her

[00:17:28] that was appealing to me

[00:17:29] in any way.

[00:17:30] And that's not to say that

[00:17:32] every sibling

[00:17:33] of someone famous

[00:17:35] is the same.

[00:17:36] Because I fucks with Ashley Simpson.

[00:17:40] So does Ken.

[00:17:42] He has pieces of me

[00:17:45] on heavy rotation

[00:17:46] in the car.

[00:17:47] That's a...

[00:17:48] That autobiography

[00:17:50] CD

[00:17:51] did something to me.

[00:17:53] Okay?

[00:17:54] He loves it.

[00:17:56] Mary Elizabeth Winstead

[00:17:58] was asked to audition

[00:17:59] for the role of Gretchen Wieners.

[00:18:01] But then there was conflicting information

[00:18:03] that

[00:18:03] Casey Chabert

[00:18:04] was the first and only choice

[00:18:06] for Gretchen Wieners.

[00:18:07] But then it also

[00:18:08] says that

[00:18:09] I guess

[00:18:10] audition versus

[00:18:12] top choice

[00:18:13] are two different things.

[00:18:15] Because Ashley Tisdale

[00:18:17] and Vanessa Hudgens

[00:18:18] also auditioned

[00:18:19] for Gretchen.

[00:18:20] Yeah.

[00:18:22] Yeah.

[00:18:23] I think Ashley...

[00:18:24] I do like

[00:18:25] Ashley Tisdale

[00:18:26] as an actress.

[00:18:27] I think she does well.

[00:18:29] But I don't know

[00:18:30] if I could have seen her

[00:18:32] in these movies.

[00:18:32] And I feel like

[00:18:33] she was so much younger

[00:18:34] than the rest of the...

[00:18:35] Well, I guess

[00:18:36] Lindsay

[00:18:37] was young.

[00:18:38] Yeah.

[00:18:39] Maybe.

[00:18:40] America Ferreira

[00:18:41] and Kat Dennings

[00:18:42] were both heavily favored

[00:18:43] for the role

[00:18:43] of Janice Ian.

[00:18:44] I could have seen

[00:18:45] Kat Dennings

[00:18:46] play that role.

[00:18:47] 100%.

[00:18:48] Yeah.

[00:18:49] America Ferreira

[00:18:52] maybe.

[00:18:54] I mean,

[00:18:54] she's incredible

[00:18:55] acting wise.

[00:18:57] So I can...

[00:18:57] She probably...

[00:18:58] I mean,

[00:18:59] she must have crushed it.

[00:19:00] Yeah.

[00:19:01] But it's not her typical

[00:19:04] thing.

[00:19:05] Jonathan Bennett

[00:19:06] was actually

[00:19:07] a last minute replacement

[00:19:08] after the actor

[00:19:09] originally slated

[00:19:10] to play Aaron Samuels

[00:19:12] was fired.

[00:19:14] And then

[00:19:15] James Franco

[00:19:16] had previously

[00:19:17] been considered

[00:19:18] for Aaron

[00:19:19] along with

[00:19:19] Penn Bagley,

[00:19:20] Jared Padalecki,

[00:19:22] and Max Miganella.

[00:19:24] Boo,

[00:19:25] James Franco.

[00:19:26] Write him in the

[00:19:26] front book.

[00:19:27] Boo.

[00:19:28] Oh, yes.

[00:19:29] James Franco.

[00:19:30] Boo.

[00:19:31] Get out of here.

[00:19:31] Judd Apatow.

[00:19:33] Yes.

[00:19:34] Judd Apatow.

[00:19:38] And James

[00:19:39] the nasty

[00:19:42] Franco.

[00:19:43] Yeah, nasty.

[00:19:44] Yeah, nasty.

[00:19:45] But I do love

[00:19:47] that Tina Fey

[00:19:48] decided to hire

[00:19:51] Jonathan Bennett

[00:19:51] because

[00:19:53] of his resemblance

[00:19:54] to her long-time

[00:19:56] SNL co-star

[00:19:56] Jimmy Fallon.

[00:20:00] When nepotism

[00:20:01] works in your favor

[00:20:02] in a weirdest way.

[00:20:04] Evan Rachel Wood

[00:20:05] was offered

[00:20:05] a role in the film

[00:20:06] but turned it down

[00:20:07] due to scheduling.

[00:20:08] The movie she made

[00:20:09] instead,

[00:20:09] I was like,

[00:20:10] damn, girl,

[00:20:11] you really missed

[00:20:11] a bag on that one.

[00:20:13] Maybe this would

[00:20:14] have kept her

[00:20:15] from dating Marilyn

[00:20:15] Manson.

[00:20:16] Maybe.

[00:20:17] Oh, yeah.

[00:20:18] Different route.

[00:20:19] But they never

[00:20:20] say what role

[00:20:21] they offered her.

[00:20:23] So I was always

[00:20:24] curious as to

[00:20:25] which role

[00:20:26] she would have played.

[00:20:27] I can see her

[00:20:28] playing Katie.

[00:20:29] Yeah, I can too.

[00:20:31] Like, we know

[00:20:31] she can do

[00:20:32] Sweet and Innocent.

[00:20:33] We know she can do

[00:20:35] 13S.

[00:20:35] Crazy.

[00:20:37] Yeah, teenager.

[00:20:38] She could do

[00:20:38] she could have done

[00:20:39] oh my god.

[00:20:40] Regina?

[00:20:41] No, Janice.

[00:20:43] Janice?

[00:20:44] Oh, yeah.

[00:20:45] Yeah, true.

[00:20:45] I think she could have

[00:20:46] done it with a 13S

[00:20:47] like you were saying.

[00:20:49] Yeah, and Lizzie

[00:20:50] but Lizzie Kaplan

[00:20:51] was at first

[00:20:52] considered too

[00:20:53] beautiful for the role

[00:20:54] for which

[00:20:56] Waters felt

[00:20:57] a Kelly Osbourne

[00:20:58] type was necessary

[00:21:00] but Kaplan

[00:21:01] was chosen

[00:21:01] for being able

[00:21:02] to portray

[00:21:03] raw emotion.

[00:21:05] Poor Kelly Osbourne.

[00:21:06] I don't even

[00:21:07] this is not the first

[00:21:08] time on this show

[00:21:09] that we've heard

[00:21:10] something like this.

[00:21:11] Yeah, like

[00:21:13] interesting.

[00:21:13] I'm not ever going

[00:21:14] to say poor Kelly Osbourne

[00:21:15] because I think she

[00:21:16] and her entire family

[00:21:17] is trash.

[00:21:18] Let me put that

[00:21:18] in there.

[00:21:20] But

[00:21:20] well, I'm just

[00:21:21] saying like

[00:21:22] to be

[00:21:23] a type

[00:21:24] in a movie

[00:21:27] like

[00:21:27] and she can't

[00:21:28] even fucking act.

[00:21:29] They're just

[00:21:30] calling her fat

[00:21:31] and ugly.

[00:21:32] That's what they

[00:21:32] wanted to say.

[00:21:33] Yeah, that's what

[00:21:33] they do.

[00:21:34] Which is not nice.

[00:21:37] They're mean girls.

[00:21:38] Yes, definitely.

[00:21:41] Especially Sharon.

[00:21:46] You just had to

[00:21:47] part Lizzie's hair

[00:21:48] weird and then

[00:21:49] it was fine.

[00:21:50] Yeah.

[00:21:50] Just give her

[00:21:51] like a little

[00:21:52] funky hairdo

[00:21:53] and

[00:21:55] that's it.

[00:21:56] Yeah.

[00:21:57] The casting department

[00:21:58] searched high and low

[00:22:00] through four cities

[00:22:01] to find the right

[00:22:02] actor to play Damien.

[00:22:04] Love that.

[00:22:05] The perfect actor.

[00:22:06] I love that too.

[00:22:07] Yeah.

[00:22:08] That's so interesting.

[00:22:09] Casey and Daniel

[00:22:10] were the last actors

[00:22:12] tested for their

[00:22:13] roles.

[00:22:14] Tina Fey wrote

[00:22:15] two roles based

[00:22:15] on fellow SNL

[00:22:17] alumni

[00:22:17] Tim Meadows

[00:22:18] and Amy Poehler

[00:22:19] the latter of

[00:22:20] whom

[00:22:21] Fey thought the

[00:22:22] producers would

[00:22:22] perceive as too

[00:22:23] young to portray

[00:22:24] a teenager's mother.

[00:22:26] The cast

[00:22:27] additionally ended

[00:22:28] up with a fourth

[00:22:28] veteran of the show

[00:22:29] and a

[00:22:30] guestire.

[00:22:31] Now

[00:22:32] this is another

[00:22:33] thing where it's

[00:22:33] conflicting.

[00:22:34] I don't know

[00:22:35] wrote the role

[00:22:36] of Meadows

[00:22:37] or change it

[00:22:38] for Tim later

[00:22:39] but it said

[00:22:40] that Steve

[00:22:41] Martin

[00:22:42] a personal

[00:22:43] comedy hero

[00:22:44] of Tina's

[00:22:45] was asked to

[00:22:46] portray Mr.

[00:22:47] Duvall

[00:22:47] the school

[00:22:48] principal

[00:22:49] but he was

[00:22:49] busy shooting

[00:22:50] cheaper by the

[00:22:51] dozen with

[00:22:52] Hillary

[00:22:52] and declined.

[00:22:54] Chevy Chase

[00:22:55] was then

[00:22:56] suggested but

[00:22:56] producer Lauren

[00:22:57] Michaels refused

[00:22:58] to cast Chase

[00:22:59] because he

[00:23:00] banned the actor

[00:23:01] from ever

[00:23:02] hosting his

[00:23:02] show

[00:23:03] Saturday

[00:23:03] Night Live

[00:23:04] again due

[00:23:04] to some

[00:23:05] controversy.

[00:23:06] Then Tim

[00:23:07] Meadows

[00:23:07] was eventually

[00:23:09] cast.

[00:23:09] So I don't

[00:23:10] know if she

[00:23:11] rewrote the

[00:23:12] role to be

[00:23:13] more for

[00:23:13] Tim but

[00:23:14] essentially

[00:23:15] Tim just

[00:23:15] did his own

[00:23:16] version of

[00:23:17] yeah

[00:23:17] probably

[00:23:18] and he

[00:23:19] was so good

[00:23:20] I love

[00:23:21] he's I think

[00:23:22] so underrated

[00:23:23] and maybe he's

[00:23:24] not underrated

[00:23:24] it.

[00:23:25] Yeah.

[00:23:26] I thought

[00:23:26] he was he

[00:23:27] everything he

[00:23:28] did was so

[00:23:29] his timing is

[00:23:31] so good.

[00:23:31] He was so

[00:23:31] good.

[00:23:32] It was great

[00:23:33] because he I

[00:23:35] know Tina

[00:23:36] didn't write

[00:23:36] that for him.

[00:23:38] Here's the

[00:23:38] thing.

[00:23:40] I'm gonna

[00:23:40] start it now

[00:23:41] my train.

[00:23:43] I love

[00:23:44] pretty much

[00:23:45] any Tina

[00:23:46] Faye movie

[00:23:46] but I

[00:23:47] always had

[00:23:48] moments of

[00:23:49] uncomfortableness

[00:23:49] or side

[00:23:50] eyes.

[00:23:52] And like

[00:23:53] literally every

[00:23:53] project she

[00:23:54] makes.

[00:23:54] I enjoy it

[00:23:55] but that

[00:23:57] woman is

[00:23:57] racist and

[00:23:58] I don't even

[00:23:58] think she

[00:24:00] realizes it

[00:24:01] or notices it

[00:24:01] even though

[00:24:02] people call her

[00:24:03] out on almost

[00:24:04] every project

[00:24:04] she does

[00:24:05] because she

[00:24:05] does things

[00:24:06] that are just

[00:24:07] so stereotypical

[00:24:08] and she

[00:24:09] likes to

[00:24:09] say that it's

[00:24:10] just comedy

[00:24:11] and people

[00:24:12] are being

[00:24:12] too like

[00:24:14] not taking

[00:24:15] it seriously.

[00:24:15] To me it

[00:24:16] just feels like

[00:24:16] you really

[00:24:17] don't have

[00:24:18] community with

[00:24:19] black people

[00:24:20] or any other

[00:24:21] ethnicity

[00:24:22] for real

[00:24:22] for real

[00:24:23] because

[00:24:24] it is wild

[00:24:25] some of the

[00:24:26] shit she

[00:24:26] puts in

[00:24:27] movies

[00:24:27] especially

[00:24:28] the early

[00:24:28] 2000s

[00:24:29] when I

[00:24:29] don't think

[00:24:30] a lot of

[00:24:30] people were

[00:24:30] checking her

[00:24:31] as much

[00:24:31] as probably

[00:24:32] now.

[00:24:33] Even with

[00:24:34] Kimmy Schmidt

[00:24:34] there was

[00:24:35] some shit

[00:24:35] and I

[00:24:36] love the

[00:24:36] character of

[00:24:38] Titus

[00:24:38] like love

[00:24:39] it.

[00:24:40] But I think

[00:24:40] that had more

[00:24:41] to do with

[00:24:42] the actor

[00:24:43] himself

[00:24:43] just taking

[00:24:44] that role

[00:24:45] and just

[00:24:45] killing it.

[00:24:47] But yeah

[00:24:48] I would

[00:24:49] love to

[00:24:49] have a

[00:24:50] sit down

[00:24:50] with her

[00:24:51] and just

[00:24:51] say bitch

[00:24:52] what is

[00:24:53] going on

[00:24:53] with you?

[00:24:54] But the

[00:24:55] moment I

[00:24:55] realized that

[00:24:56] she grew

[00:24:56] up in

[00:24:58] like the

[00:24:59] suburbs of

[00:25:00] Chicago

[00:25:00] and even

[00:25:01] though she

[00:25:01] moved to

[00:25:01] New York

[00:25:03] no no

[00:25:03] access no

[00:25:05] real

[00:25:07] interactions

[00:25:07] with people

[00:25:08] of color

[00:25:09] and you

[00:25:10] could tell

[00:25:10] how she

[00:25:11] feels about

[00:25:12] them in

[00:25:12] every project

[00:25:13] that she

[00:25:14] does and

[00:25:15] it's

[00:25:15] you can't

[00:25:16] you can't

[00:25:17] tell me

[00:25:18] that you

[00:25:18] don't think

[00:25:18] that woman

[00:25:19] is not

[00:25:19] racist like

[00:25:20] I don't

[00:25:21] get it

[00:25:22] and I'm

[00:25:23] gonna put

[00:25:23] her in

[00:25:24] the book

[00:25:24] right now

[00:25:27] and it

[00:25:28] kills me

[00:25:29] because I

[00:25:29] love that

[00:25:30] that movie

[00:25:31] baby mama

[00:25:31] she cracks

[00:25:33] me up

[00:25:33] things can

[00:25:34] be true

[00:25:34] at the same

[00:25:35] time

[00:25:36] and it

[00:25:37] kills me

[00:25:37] because I

[00:25:37] love Amy

[00:25:38] Poehler so

[00:25:38] much but

[00:25:39] they're

[00:25:39] besties and

[00:25:40] I'm like

[00:25:41] birds of a

[00:25:42] feather

[00:25:42] motherfucker

[00:25:43] yeah

[00:25:44] even though

[00:25:45] I think

[00:25:45] she's way

[00:25:47] better like

[00:25:47] her projects

[00:25:48] I don't see

[00:25:49] that like

[00:25:49] I see

[00:25:50] with Tina's

[00:25:53] okay

[00:25:54] yeah

[00:25:55] what else

[00:25:55] we got

[00:25:56] I just

[00:25:58] had to

[00:25:58] lay the

[00:25:58] foundation

[00:25:59] no it's

[00:25:59] important

[00:26:01] and it's

[00:26:02] not just

[00:26:02] me like

[00:26:03] if you

[00:26:03] think it's

[00:26:04] just oh

[00:26:04] Danielle here

[00:26:05] we go

[00:26:05] again Google

[00:26:06] and you

[00:26:07] will see

[00:26:07] articles from

[00:26:08] people much

[00:26:09] smarter than

[00:26:10] me that

[00:26:10] dig deep

[00:26:11] into this

[00:26:11] because it

[00:26:12] is a

[00:26:12] problem

[00:26:15] what else

[00:26:16] we got

[00:26:16] Jackie

[00:26:17] thank you

[00:26:17] Danielle

[00:26:19] thank you

[00:26:20] I'm gonna

[00:26:21] read those

[00:26:21] articles

[00:26:21] yeah no

[00:26:22] like some

[00:26:23] of them are

[00:26:23] really good

[00:26:23] I'm gonna

[00:26:24] yeah I

[00:26:25] bet

[00:26:26] I think

[00:26:27] we've

[00:26:27] covered

[00:26:28] cast and

[00:26:29] crew pretty

[00:26:29] well

[00:26:30] should we

[00:26:31] just

[00:26:32] and we're

[00:26:33] gonna do

[00:26:33] things a

[00:26:34] tiny bit

[00:26:35] different

[00:26:35] this week

[00:26:36] because

[00:26:37] we all

[00:26:38] know and

[00:26:39] love Mean

[00:26:39] Girls

[00:26:40] so I

[00:26:40] don't

[00:26:41] think we

[00:26:41] need to

[00:26:41] go

[00:26:42] scene by

[00:26:43] scene like

[00:26:43] we typically

[00:26:44] do so

[00:26:44] we are

[00:26:45] just gonna

[00:26:45] talk about

[00:26:47] our favorite

[00:26:48] things

[00:26:49] things we

[00:26:50] found problems

[00:26:51] with

[00:26:51] the acting

[00:26:52] yeah just

[00:26:53] anything that

[00:26:54] that comes

[00:26:55] to our

[00:26:55] mind

[00:26:56] and it

[00:26:57] may be

[00:26:57] linear

[00:26:58] and it

[00:26:58] may not

[00:27:01] I do

[00:27:02] think that

[00:27:03] despite

[00:27:04] some of

[00:27:05] the

[00:27:05] discrepancies

[00:27:06] I said

[00:27:06] like the

[00:27:07] writing

[00:27:07] for this

[00:27:08] movie is

[00:27:09] impeccable

[00:27:09] so I

[00:27:10] think

[00:27:10] the thing

[00:27:11] that makes

[00:27:12] a classic

[00:27:13] a classic

[00:27:15] is that it

[00:27:15] can hold

[00:27:17] true

[00:27:17] in any

[00:27:18] time

[00:27:19] that it's

[00:27:20] a time

[00:27:20] capsule for

[00:27:21] the time

[00:27:22] period that

[00:27:22] it's made

[00:27:23] but it

[00:27:23] can also

[00:27:23] just

[00:27:24] like you

[00:27:25] can watch

[00:27:25] it right

[00:27:26] now and

[00:27:27] not feel

[00:27:27] like it's

[00:27:28] absolutely

[00:27:28] dated

[00:27:29] and I

[00:27:30] think Tina

[00:27:31] Faye did

[00:27:31] an amazing

[00:27:32] job with

[00:27:32] that and

[00:27:33] she talked

[00:27:33] about how

[00:27:34] she made

[00:27:35] up some

[00:27:35] of the

[00:27:35] slang and

[00:27:36] stuff in

[00:27:37] the movie

[00:27:38] so that it

[00:27:39] wouldn't have

[00:27:40] that kind

[00:27:40] of dated

[00:27:41] feel to

[00:27:41] it

[00:27:43] yeah it

[00:27:44] really was

[00:27:45] so I

[00:27:45] think the

[00:27:46] writing is

[00:27:47] impeccable

[00:27:47] and I

[00:27:48] think they

[00:27:48] found this

[00:27:50] is an

[00:27:50] example of

[00:27:51] a movie

[00:27:51] that was

[00:27:51] perfectly

[00:27:52] cast

[00:27:52] 100%

[00:27:54] yeah the

[00:27:55] casting

[00:27:55] was absolutely

[00:27:56] crushed

[00:27:57] in this

[00:27:57] movie

[00:28:00] literally

[00:28:01] don't

[00:28:02] think

[00:28:02] anybody

[00:28:02] was out

[00:28:03] of

[00:28:03] place

[00:28:04] even

[00:28:04] the

[00:28:05] background

[00:28:06] players

[00:28:07] I think

[00:28:08] one of

[00:28:08] the

[00:28:08] critiques

[00:28:09] of this

[00:28:09] movie

[00:28:10] though

[00:28:10] is that

[00:28:11] the

[00:28:12] diversity

[00:28:13] and we

[00:28:13] talked about

[00:28:14] this and

[00:28:14] she's all

[00:28:14] that where

[00:28:15] it's like

[00:28:16] the diversity

[00:28:16] of characters

[00:28:18] not just

[00:28:18] like

[00:28:19] ethnicity

[00:28:20] but like

[00:28:21] we get

[00:28:21] a good

[00:28:22] full gambit

[00:28:23] of the

[00:28:24] different

[00:28:24] types

[00:28:25] of people

[00:28:26] can be

[00:28:27] represented

[00:28:27] in this

[00:28:28] movie

[00:28:28] but it

[00:28:30] is at

[00:28:31] the expense

[00:28:32] of being

[00:28:32] stereotypes

[00:28:33] and background

[00:28:33] you know

[00:28:35] we have

[00:28:36] disabled

[00:28:37] characters

[00:28:38] we have

[00:28:39] gay

[00:28:40] characters

[00:28:40] black

[00:28:41] characters

[00:28:42] Asian

[00:28:42] characters

[00:28:43] and then

[00:28:43] what ends

[00:28:44] up happening

[00:28:45] is that

[00:28:45] they're

[00:28:45] caricatures

[00:28:46] and this

[00:28:47] is what

[00:28:47] we've talked

[00:28:48] about in

[00:28:48] the past

[00:28:49] of that

[00:28:50] if you

[00:28:51] don't have

[00:28:52] if you

[00:28:52] don't have

[00:28:53] that

[00:28:53] ability

[00:28:54] to put

[00:28:55] yourself

[00:28:56] in another

[00:28:57] person's

[00:28:58] shoes

[00:28:58] then you

[00:28:59] need to

[00:29:00] have writers

[00:29:00] that have

[00:29:02] that experience

[00:29:03] to help

[00:29:03] imagine how

[00:29:04] much funnier

[00:29:05] this movie

[00:29:06] could have

[00:29:06] been if

[00:29:07] you had

[00:29:07] people from

[00:29:08] that perspective

[00:29:08] helping

[00:29:11] so

[00:29:13] I'm with you

[00:29:14] there

[00:29:15] I'm with you

[00:29:16] I also

[00:29:17] like

[00:29:20] calling out

[00:29:21] the fat

[00:29:21] phobia

[00:29:21] in this

[00:29:22] movie

[00:29:22] as well

[00:29:23] that felt

[00:29:24] dated

[00:29:25] to me

[00:29:26] that

[00:29:27] and a

[00:29:28] couple

[00:29:28] of R

[00:29:28] words

[00:29:29] those

[00:29:29] were

[00:29:29] like

[00:29:29] the

[00:29:30] main

[00:29:31] glaring

[00:29:32] thing

[00:29:32] but yeah

[00:29:34] the

[00:29:34] stereotypes

[00:29:36] and I

[00:29:37] think

[00:29:38] yeah

[00:29:39] I can

[00:29:39] imagine

[00:29:39] you know

[00:29:41] Tina Fey

[00:29:41] being like

[00:29:41] oh well

[00:29:42] it was

[00:29:42] for comedy

[00:29:43] like I'm

[00:29:44] not

[00:29:44] stereotyping

[00:29:44] people

[00:29:44] stereotypes

[00:29:45] are

[00:29:46] she is

[00:29:47] yeah

[00:29:47] it was

[00:29:48] yeah

[00:29:49] and if

[00:29:50] you think

[00:29:50] the black

[00:29:51] community

[00:29:51] is annoyed

[00:29:52] with Tina Fey

[00:29:53] I mean

[00:29:53] they are

[00:29:54] but they

[00:29:54] don't care

[00:29:55] I mean

[00:29:55] I don't

[00:29:56] think they

[00:29:56] pay attention

[00:29:57] as much

[00:29:57] but the

[00:29:57] Asian

[00:29:58] community

[00:29:58] my god

[00:29:59] there are

[00:30:00] some videos

[00:30:01] on TikTok

[00:30:03] I was like

[00:30:04] shit

[00:30:04] I didn't even

[00:30:05] know

[00:30:05] or realize

[00:30:06] that

[00:30:06] that's

[00:30:07] fucked up

[00:30:07] Tina

[00:30:08] like

[00:30:08] they

[00:30:09] were pretty

[00:30:10] mad

[00:30:11] about

[00:30:11] I'm going

[00:30:12] down a

[00:30:12] rabbit hole

[00:30:13] later

[00:30:13] yeah

[00:30:14] I'm so glad

[00:30:15] I know

[00:30:15] that

[00:30:15] I'm so glad

[00:30:16] I know

[00:30:16] more about

[00:30:17] this

[00:30:17] insane

[00:30:18] but other

[00:30:19] than that

[00:30:20] again

[00:30:22] from a

[00:30:22] white

[00:30:23] girl

[00:30:24] perspective

[00:30:27] on par

[00:30:28] it was

[00:30:30] top work

[00:30:31] you know

[00:30:31] well

[00:30:32] and speaking

[00:30:33] about

[00:30:34] some of the

[00:30:35] stereotypes

[00:30:36] like right

[00:30:36] out of the

[00:30:37] gate

[00:30:37] we get

[00:30:38] the fat

[00:30:39] kid in

[00:30:39] class that

[00:30:40] farts a lot

[00:30:41] so you don't

[00:30:41] want to sit

[00:30:41] around him

[00:30:42] and then

[00:30:43] when they're

[00:30:44] introducing

[00:30:45] Katie

[00:30:45] has just

[00:30:46] moved here

[00:30:47] from Africa

[00:30:48] the teacher

[00:30:49] immediately

[00:30:49] assumes it's

[00:30:50] the black

[00:30:51] girl in

[00:30:51] class

[00:30:53] and

[00:30:54] first of all

[00:30:55] why not

[00:30:56] say which

[00:30:56] country

[00:30:57] I don't

[00:30:58] understand

[00:30:58] from a

[00:30:59] western

[00:30:59] point

[00:31:00] yes

[00:31:01] why

[00:31:02] yes

[00:31:02] why just

[00:31:03] Africa

[00:31:04] if you

[00:31:06] think about

[00:31:06] it

[00:31:07] the thought

[00:31:08] process

[00:31:08] that

[00:31:10] the

[00:31:11] colonized

[00:31:12] world

[00:31:12] looks at

[00:31:13] an entire

[00:31:13] continent

[00:31:14] one of the

[00:31:14] biggest

[00:31:15] continents

[00:31:15] on this

[00:31:16] earth

[00:31:17] you only

[00:31:18] name it

[00:31:19] by the

[00:31:19] continent

[00:31:19] you don't

[00:31:20] call

[00:31:21] any other

[00:31:22] continent

[00:31:22] like when

[00:31:23] I'm talking

[00:31:24] about England

[00:31:24] I talk

[00:31:25] about England

[00:31:25] I'm not

[00:31:25] saying

[00:31:26] Europe

[00:31:27] it's

[00:31:27] fucking

[00:31:28] weird

[00:31:28] and it

[00:31:29] plays

[00:31:29] into

[00:31:30] like

[00:31:31] so many

[00:31:32] white

[00:31:32] people being

[00:31:33] like oh

[00:31:33] over in

[00:31:34] Africa

[00:31:34] this

[00:31:35] and over

[00:31:36] in Africa

[00:31:36] that

[00:31:37] where

[00:31:39] I bet

[00:31:39] if you

[00:31:42] went on

[00:31:42] a street

[00:31:43] on a

[00:31:43] random

[00:31:43] neighborhood

[00:31:44] and asked

[00:31:45] somebody

[00:31:45] what the

[00:31:46] capital

[00:31:46] of

[00:31:46] Africa

[00:31:47] is

[00:31:47] many

[00:31:48] people

[00:31:49] would not

[00:31:49] correct

[00:31:49] you to

[00:31:50] say that's

[00:31:50] a continent

[00:31:51] and that

[00:31:52] blows my

[00:31:53] mind

[00:31:53] even when

[00:31:54] I watch

[00:31:54] my K

[00:31:55] dramas

[00:31:56] they

[00:31:56] when

[00:31:57] somebody

[00:31:57] one of

[00:31:58] the

[00:31:58] chabos

[00:31:58] or like

[00:31:59] rich

[00:32:00] people

[00:32:00] get in

[00:32:29] trouble

[00:32:30] South

[00:32:31] Africa

[00:32:31] or what

[00:32:31] like

[00:32:32] I

[00:32:33] think

[00:32:34] it's

[00:32:34] weird

[00:32:35] that

[00:32:35] Katie

[00:32:36] would

[00:32:36] come

[00:32:36] from

[00:32:37] that

[00:32:37] environment

[00:32:37] like

[00:32:39] growing up

[00:32:39] in Africa

[00:32:40] with African

[00:32:41] friends

[00:32:41] if she

[00:32:42] didn't

[00:32:42] grow up

[00:32:43] in like

[00:32:43] South

[00:32:43] Africa

[00:32:44] let's

[00:32:44] say

[00:32:44] and she

[00:32:45] grew up

[00:32:46] in an

[00:32:46] actual

[00:32:46] African

[00:32:47] country

[00:32:47] with

[00:32:48] black

[00:32:49] people

[00:32:49] that

[00:32:50] the

[00:32:50] first

[00:32:51] place

[00:32:51] she

[00:32:51] wouldn't

[00:32:52] be

[00:32:52] line

[00:32:52] like

[00:32:53] they

[00:32:53] showed

[00:32:54] that

[00:32:54] instance

[00:32:55] where

[00:32:55] she

[00:32:55] goes

[00:32:55] and

[00:32:56] talks

[00:32:56] to

[00:32:56] this

[00:32:56] black

[00:32:57] girl

[00:32:57] and

[00:32:58] starts

[00:32:58] to

[00:32:59] try

[00:32:59] to

[00:32:59] like

[00:33:00] engage

[00:33:01] with

[00:33:01] her

[00:33:02] like

[00:33:03] one of

[00:33:04] her

[00:33:04] friends

[00:33:04] it just

[00:33:04] didn't

[00:33:05] feel

[00:33:05] right

[00:33:05] like

[00:33:06] even

[00:33:06] if

[00:33:06] she

[00:33:07] grew

[00:33:07] up

[00:33:07] in

[00:33:08] Africa

[00:33:08] it

[00:33:08] makes

[00:33:09] it

[00:33:09] seem

[00:33:09] as

[00:33:09] if

[00:33:10] the

[00:33:10] country

[00:33:11] she

[00:33:11] was

[00:33:11] in

[00:33:12] was

[00:33:12] so

[00:33:13] ass

[00:33:13] backwards

[00:33:14] that

[00:33:15] she

[00:33:15] wouldn't

[00:33:16] know

[00:33:16] how

[00:33:16] to

[00:33:18] interact

[00:33:18] with

[00:33:19] people

[00:33:19] that

[00:33:19] seems

[00:33:20] because

[00:33:20] when

[00:33:20] you

[00:33:21] go

[00:33:21] to

[00:33:21] Africa

[00:33:21] you're

[00:33:22] just

[00:33:22] always

[00:33:22] on

[00:33:23] safari

[00:33:23] like

[00:33:24] those

[00:33:25] two

[00:33:25] things

[00:33:25] just

[00:33:26] go

[00:33:26] hand

[00:33:26] in

[00:33:27] hand

[00:33:27] and

[00:33:28] I

[00:33:28] just

[00:33:28] want

[00:33:28] to

[00:33:28] know

[00:33:29] Tina

[00:33:29] Faye

[00:33:29] why

[00:33:31] why

[00:33:31] was

[00:33:32] why

[00:33:32] why

[00:33:33] not

[00:33:33] she

[00:33:34] just

[00:33:35] didn't

[00:33:35] yeah

[00:33:36] she

[00:33:36] just

[00:33:36] didn't

[00:33:36] think

[00:33:37] specifics

[00:33:37] she

[00:33:38] didn't

[00:33:38] put

[00:33:38] any

[00:33:38] specificity

[00:33:39] into

[00:33:39] the

[00:33:40] whole

[00:33:40] Africa

[00:33:40] thing

[00:33:40] clearly

[00:33:41] there's

[00:33:41] no

[00:33:41] specificity

[00:33:42] there

[00:33:43] so

[00:33:43] that

[00:33:43] becomes

[00:33:43] a

[00:33:44] problem

[00:33:44] right

[00:33:45] yeah

[00:33:46] she

[00:33:46] didn't

[00:33:46] care

[00:33:47] to

[00:33:47] put

[00:33:47] that

[00:33:47] much

[00:33:48] specificity

[00:33:48] she's

[00:33:49] like

[00:33:49] they

[00:33:49] speak

[00:33:50] what

[00:33:50] Afrikaans

[00:33:50] and then

[00:33:51] they

[00:33:51] say

[00:33:51] she says

[00:33:52] Jonbo

[00:33:52] yeah

[00:33:53] like

[00:33:54] and then

[00:33:54] they have

[00:33:55] like

[00:33:55] fertility

[00:33:56] like

[00:33:57] vases

[00:33:57] yeah

[00:33:58] it's

[00:33:58] very

[00:33:59] like

[00:33:59] and she's

[00:34:00] like

[00:34:00] well

[00:34:00] it's

[00:34:01] a comedy

[00:34:01] doesn't

[00:34:01] matter

[00:34:01] it

[00:34:02] matters

[00:34:02] yeah

[00:34:02] and I

[00:34:03] think

[00:34:03] that would

[00:34:03] be

[00:34:04] the

[00:34:04] talking

[00:34:05] that's

[00:34:05] the

[00:34:05] talking

[00:34:06] point

[00:34:06] now

[00:34:06] is

[00:34:06] like

[00:34:07] I

[00:34:08] would

[00:34:08] hope

[00:34:08] now

[00:34:09] she

[00:34:09] wouldn't

[00:34:09] remake

[00:34:10] that

[00:34:10] the

[00:34:10] same

[00:34:10] but

[00:34:11] we'll

[00:34:11] have

[00:34:12] to

[00:34:12] read

[00:34:12] up

[00:34:12] on

[00:34:12] her

[00:34:12] history

[00:34:13] and

[00:34:13] see

[00:34:14] maybe

[00:34:15] not

[00:34:15] maybe

[00:34:15] she

[00:34:15] would

[00:34:16] so

[00:34:17] that

[00:34:17] I

[00:34:17] thought

[00:34:18] that

[00:34:19] was

[00:34:39] just

[00:34:39] whips

[00:34:40] around

[00:34:40] and

[00:34:40] goes

[00:34:40] your

[00:34:41] mother's

[00:34:41] chest

[00:34:41] hair

[00:34:44] your

[00:34:44] mom's

[00:34:44] chest

[00:34:45] hair

[00:34:46] I

[00:34:48] love

[00:34:48] that

[00:34:48] her

[00:34:49] shirt

[00:34:49] is

[00:34:50] like

[00:34:50] my

[00:34:51] favorite

[00:34:51] one

[00:34:52] of my

[00:34:53] favorite

[00:34:53] characters

[00:34:53] of all

[00:34:54] time

[00:34:54] like

[00:34:54] I

[00:34:55] just

[00:34:55] love

[00:34:55] her

[00:34:55] rage

[00:34:58] I

[00:34:58] love

[00:34:58] that

[00:34:59] her

[00:34:59] shirt

[00:34:59] just

[00:34:59] says

[00:34:59] rubbish

[00:35:00] when

[00:35:00] we

[00:35:00] meet

[00:35:00] her

[00:35:01] just

[00:35:02] that's

[00:35:02] who

[00:35:03] she

[00:35:03] is

[00:35:03] yeah

[00:35:04] unapologetically

[00:35:05] Janice

[00:35:06] and

[00:35:07] I

[00:35:07] guess

[00:35:08] the joke

[00:35:08] was so

[00:35:09] deeply

[00:35:09] embedded

[00:35:10] that a

[00:35:10] lot of

[00:35:11] people

[00:35:11] didn't

[00:35:11] get

[00:35:12] that

[00:35:13] the

[00:35:13] reason

[00:35:14] why

[00:35:14] they

[00:35:15] think

[00:35:16] Janice

[00:35:17] is a

[00:35:17] lesbian

[00:35:18] is because

[00:35:19] she's

[00:35:19] Lebanese

[00:35:20] and

[00:35:21] in

[00:35:21] middle

[00:35:22] school

[00:35:22] Regina

[00:35:23] got

[00:35:24] that

[00:35:24] confused

[00:35:25] with

[00:35:26] being

[00:35:27] a

[00:35:27] lesbian

[00:35:27] right

[00:35:29] which

[00:35:30] if

[00:35:30] you

[00:35:30] go

[00:35:30] down

[00:35:31] rabbit

[00:35:31] holes

[00:35:31] there

[00:35:32] are

[00:35:32] so

[00:35:32] many

[00:35:32] people

[00:35:32] that

[00:35:33] think

[00:35:33] that

[00:35:33] really

[00:35:34] it

[00:35:34] was

[00:35:34] a

[00:35:35] deflection

[00:35:35] of

[00:35:36] Regina

[00:35:37] who

[00:35:37] is

[00:35:38] most

[00:35:38] likely

[00:35:39] a

[00:35:39] lesbian

[00:35:40] herself

[00:35:40] yeah

[00:35:40] they

[00:35:41] talk

[00:35:41] about

[00:35:41] that

[00:35:41] a lot

[00:35:42] and

[00:35:43] when

[00:35:43] they

[00:35:43] talked

[00:35:44] when

[00:35:44] they

[00:35:44] cast

[00:35:44] Renee

[00:35:45] rap

[00:35:45] for

[00:35:45] the

[00:35:46] new

[00:35:46] musical

[00:35:47] yeah

[00:35:47] right

[00:35:48] um

[00:35:48] I'm

[00:35:50] watching

[00:35:50] some

[00:35:51] TikTok

[00:35:51] random

[00:35:52] TikToks

[00:35:52] of

[00:35:52] Renee's

[00:36:09] I

[00:36:09] I

[00:36:10] I

[00:36:10] to

[00:36:10] see

[00:36:11] her

[00:36:11] in

[00:36:11] a

[00:36:11] couple

[00:36:11] weeks

[00:36:12] I'm

[00:36:12] very

[00:36:12] excited

[00:36:12] she's

[00:36:13] performing

[00:36:14] at

[00:36:14] ACL

[00:36:14] she's

[00:36:15] so

[00:36:15] nice

[00:36:16] yeah

[00:36:17] I

[00:36:18] do

[00:36:18] love

[00:36:19] how

[00:36:21] when

[00:36:22] Katie

[00:36:22] meets

[00:36:23] Damien

[00:36:23] and

[00:36:24] Janice

[00:36:25] thank

[00:36:26] you

[00:36:26] when

[00:36:26] Katie

[00:36:27] meets

[00:36:27] Damien

[00:36:27] and

[00:36:28] Janice

[00:36:28] how

[00:36:28] they

[00:36:28] like

[00:36:29] kind

[00:36:29] of

[00:36:29] take

[00:36:29] her

[00:36:29] under

[00:36:30] their

[00:36:30] wing

[00:36:30] and

[00:36:31] then

[00:36:31] they

[00:36:32] lay

[00:36:32] out

[00:36:32] all

[00:36:32] the

[00:36:33] clicks

[00:36:33] and

[00:36:33] we

[00:36:38] so

[00:36:38] kind

[00:36:39] of

[00:36:39] see

[00:36:39] where

[00:36:40] everybody

[00:36:40] kind

[00:36:41] of

[00:36:41] fits

[00:36:41] and

[00:36:42] I

[00:36:43] love

[00:36:43] the

[00:36:43] little

[00:36:44] we

[00:36:44] end

[00:36:44] up

[00:36:45] seeing

[00:36:45] like

[00:36:46] a

[00:36:47] a

[00:36:47] drawing

[00:36:48] a pencil

[00:36:48] drawing

[00:36:49] of all

[00:36:49] the

[00:36:49] little

[00:36:50] tables

[00:36:50] and

[00:36:50] there

[00:36:51] are

[00:36:52] some

[00:36:52] hidden

[00:36:52] Easter

[00:36:53] eggs

[00:36:54] in that

[00:36:55] if you

[00:36:55] like

[00:36:56] freeze

[00:36:56] it

[00:36:56] I

[00:37:08] makes

[00:37:09] for

[00:37:09] Katie

[00:37:09] she

[00:37:10] wrote

[00:37:10] a

[00:37:10] cautious

[00:37:11] note

[00:37:11] for

[00:37:11] the

[00:37:12] woods

[00:37:12] behind

[00:37:12] the

[00:37:13] school

[00:37:13] saying

[00:37:13] make

[00:37:14] out

[00:37:15] zone

[00:37:15] warning

[00:37:16] there

[00:37:16] is

[00:37:16] sexual

[00:37:17] activity

[00:37:17] in

[00:37:18] these

[00:37:18] woods

[00:37:21] I

[00:37:22] love

[00:37:22] that

[00:37:22] and

[00:37:23] I

[00:37:23] also

[00:37:23] love

[00:37:24] there

[00:37:24] there's

[00:37:24] so

[00:37:24] much

[00:37:25] foreshadowing

[00:37:25] in

[00:37:26] the

[00:37:26] movie

[00:37:26] yes

[00:37:27] it's

[00:37:28] funny

[00:37:28] to

[00:37:28] me

[00:37:28] that

[00:37:28] most

[00:37:29] of

[00:37:29] this

[00:37:29] movie

[00:37:29] was

[00:37:29] shot

[00:37:30] in

[00:37:31] Toronto

[00:37:32] and

[00:37:34] I

[00:37:34] didn't

[00:37:35] know

[00:37:35] that

[00:37:35] yeah

[00:37:38] it

[00:37:39] was

[00:37:39] supposed

[00:37:39] to

[00:37:39] be

[00:37:39] set

[00:37:40] in

[00:37:40] Evanston

[00:37:41] Illinois

[00:37:41] but

[00:37:42] it

[00:37:42] was

[00:37:42] mostly

[00:37:43] shot

[00:37:43] in

[00:37:43] Toronto

[00:37:44] Ontario

[00:37:44] as

[00:37:45] well

[00:37:45] they

[00:37:46] did

[00:37:46] film

[00:37:47] some

[00:37:47] at

[00:37:48] Montclair

[00:37:48] High

[00:37:48] School

[00:37:49] in

[00:37:49] New

[00:37:50] Jersey

[00:37:51] let me

[00:37:52] put that

[00:37:52] in the

[00:37:53] burn

[00:37:53] book

[00:37:56] New

[00:37:57] Jersey

[00:37:57] New

[00:37:58] Jersey

[00:37:59] New

[00:37:59] Jersey

[00:38:00] don't

[00:38:01] I

[00:38:01] won't

[00:38:01] tell

[00:38:01] Ron

[00:38:02] hey

[00:38:02] yeah

[00:38:03] actually

[00:38:03] I

[00:38:03] don't

[00:38:03] think

[00:38:03] you

[00:38:03] would

[00:38:04] mind

[00:38:06] we

[00:38:09] do

[00:38:10] meet

[00:38:10] some

[00:38:10] of

[00:38:10] the

[00:38:11] teachers

[00:38:12] the

[00:38:13] health

[00:38:13] teacher

[00:38:14] is

[00:38:14] my

[00:38:14] personal

[00:38:14] favorite

[00:38:15] because

[00:38:15] he

[00:38:15] just

[00:38:15] his

[00:38:19] cautionary

[00:38:19] tale

[00:38:20] is always

[00:38:20] like

[00:38:21] have

[00:38:21] sex

[00:38:21] and die

[00:38:22] like

[00:38:23] just

[00:38:24] don't

[00:38:24] do

[00:38:24] it

[00:38:24] at

[00:38:25] same

[00:38:25] time

[00:38:25] he

[00:38:26] will

[00:38:26] get

[00:38:26] chlamydia

[00:38:27] and die

[00:38:27] he's

[00:38:28] a

[00:38:28] pedophile

[00:38:29] is

[00:38:30] oh

[00:38:31] yeah

[00:38:32] that's

[00:38:32] right

[00:38:32] that's

[00:38:33] him

[00:38:33] in

[00:38:34] this

[00:38:34] movie

[00:38:35] yeah

[00:38:35] that

[00:38:35] was

[00:38:36] like

[00:38:36] they're

[00:38:36] like

[00:38:36] haha

[00:38:38] I'm

[00:38:38] like

[00:38:39] what

[00:38:40] no

[00:38:40] and I

[00:38:41] hate

[00:38:41] that it

[00:38:42] was

[00:38:42] the

[00:38:43] two

[00:38:43] minority

[00:38:44] Asian

[00:38:45] women

[00:38:45] that we

[00:38:46] see in

[00:38:46] this film

[00:38:47] as well

[00:38:47] which

[00:38:48] like

[00:38:48] why

[00:38:49] I told

[00:38:49] you

[00:38:49] the

[00:38:49] Asian

[00:38:50] community

[00:38:50] hella

[00:38:51] pissed

[00:38:51] because

[00:38:51] it

[00:38:52] fetishizes

[00:38:54] their

[00:38:59] Tina Fey

[00:39:00] can get

[00:39:00] it

[00:39:03] we meet

[00:39:04] I don't

[00:39:05] even

[00:39:05] remember

[00:39:05] her name

[00:39:06] Tina Fey

[00:39:06] is

[00:39:07] the math

[00:39:07] teacher

[00:39:08] right

[00:39:09] and then

[00:39:10] there's a

[00:39:11] very angry

[00:39:11] German

[00:39:12] teacher

[00:39:12] oh

[00:39:14] yeah

[00:39:14] really

[00:39:14] briefly

[00:39:14] yeah

[00:39:15] and then

[00:39:17] Tim Meadows

[00:39:17] is the

[00:39:18] principal

[00:39:18] those are

[00:39:19] pretty much

[00:39:20] the main

[00:39:20] adult

[00:39:21] characters

[00:39:21] other than

[00:39:22] Katie's

[00:39:22] parents

[00:39:23] and

[00:39:23] then

[00:39:24] Regina's

[00:39:25] mom

[00:39:26] here

[00:39:27] is a

[00:39:27] tweet

[00:39:28] Alex

[00:39:28] Abad

[00:39:30] I don't

[00:39:30] even know

[00:39:31] if I

[00:39:31] said that

[00:39:31] right

[00:39:32] Tina Fey

[00:39:32] also has

[00:39:33] a shitty

[00:39:33] track record

[00:39:34] when it

[00:39:34] comes to

[00:39:35] depicting

[00:39:35] Asian

[00:39:36] people

[00:39:36] women in

[00:39:37] particular

[00:39:37] mean girls

[00:39:38] sisters

[00:39:39] 30 rock

[00:39:39] the underlying

[00:39:40] joke is that

[00:39:41] they're hyper

[00:39:41] sexual and

[00:39:42] looking for

[00:39:42] green cards

[00:39:43] can't speak

[00:39:44] English

[00:39:45] look

[00:39:46] there

[00:39:46] isn't

[00:39:47] sisters

[00:39:49] when confronted

[00:39:50] in 2016

[00:39:51] Fey was

[00:39:52] basically

[00:39:52] a shrug

[00:39:54] emoji

[00:39:54] that same

[00:39:55] year

[00:39:56] Kimmy Schmidt

[00:39:56] included an

[00:39:57] episode where

[00:39:58] Titus believes

[00:39:58] he is a

[00:39:59] geisha

[00:39:59] and comes

[00:40:00] under

[00:40:01] criticism

[00:40:01] from an

[00:40:02] Asian

[00:40:02] activist

[00:40:03] group

[00:40:03] the acronym

[00:40:04] for that

[00:40:04] group

[00:40:05] was called

[00:40:06] rape

[00:40:06] in the

[00:40:07] show

[00:40:07] Tina Fey

[00:40:08] is allowed

[00:40:08] to create

[00:40:09] whatever

[00:40:10] comedy she

[00:40:10] wants

[00:40:11] people are

[00:40:12] also allowed

[00:40:12] to feel

[00:40:12] however they

[00:40:13] want in

[00:40:14] response to

[00:40:14] it

[00:40:14] and Tina

[00:40:15] Fey

[00:40:15] isn't good

[00:40:16] at handling

[00:40:17] that

[00:40:17] criticism

[00:40:18] yeah

[00:40:19] sounds like

[00:40:19] she isn't

[00:40:21] holy

[00:40:21] shit

[00:40:23] disappointing

[00:40:26] I feel

[00:40:28] weird

[00:40:28] now

[00:40:31] facts

[00:40:31] on facts

[00:40:32] on facts

[00:40:33] I mean

[00:40:34] hey

[00:40:34] knowledge

[00:40:35] is power

[00:40:36] well and

[00:40:37] then we

[00:40:37] do get

[00:40:37] that

[00:40:38] classic

[00:40:39] mean

[00:40:39] girls

[00:40:40] line

[00:40:41] that's

[00:40:41] the

[00:40:42] Karen

[00:40:43] you can't

[00:40:43] just ask

[00:40:44] people why

[00:40:44] they're white

[00:40:45] like

[00:40:46] I actually

[00:40:48] laughed at

[00:40:48] that one

[00:40:48] it's pretty

[00:40:49] funny

[00:40:49] it is a

[00:40:50] pretty funny

[00:40:51] line

[00:40:51] yeah

[00:40:52] but it's

[00:40:53] still like

[00:40:54] commenting

[00:40:55] on

[00:40:57] on race

[00:40:58] but like

[00:40:59] making it

[00:40:59] reverse

[00:41:00] of like

[00:41:01] right

[00:41:02] minority

[00:41:03] like it

[00:41:03] just

[00:41:03] I love

[00:41:06] that line

[00:41:07] and simultaneously

[00:41:08] I'm like

[00:41:08] there's so much

[00:41:09] wrong with

[00:41:09] this line

[00:41:10] I love

[00:41:12] that from

[00:41:12] an ageism

[00:41:13] standpoint

[00:41:14] where she

[00:41:15] thought that

[00:41:15] they weren't

[00:41:16] going to

[00:41:17] want

[00:41:17] Amy Poehler

[00:41:18] to play

[00:41:18] the mom

[00:41:19] because she

[00:41:19] was so

[00:41:20] much

[00:41:21] like she

[00:41:22] was so

[00:41:22] young

[00:41:23] and really

[00:41:23] that not

[00:41:24] that much

[00:41:24] of an age

[00:41:25] difference

[00:41:25] between her

[00:41:26] and Rachel

[00:41:27] McAdams

[00:41:28] and the

[00:41:28] studio is

[00:41:29] like oh

[00:41:29] no that's

[00:41:29] perfect

[00:41:30] that's the

[00:41:30] way we

[00:41:31] like it

[00:41:33] we like

[00:41:34] that

[00:41:34] that sounds

[00:41:35] right

[00:41:36] she looks

[00:41:37] too old

[00:41:37] to be in

[00:41:38] this movie

[00:41:38] any other

[00:41:39] way

[00:41:39] she's

[00:41:40] got to

[00:41:40] be a

[00:41:41] mother

[00:41:41] to a

[00:41:41] half

[00:41:42] grown

[00:41:42] child

[00:41:42] the

[00:41:43] age

[00:41:44] difference

[00:41:45] between

[00:41:45] Amy Poehler

[00:41:46] and Rachel

[00:41:47] McAdams

[00:41:47] is seven

[00:41:48] years

[00:41:48] the age

[00:41:49] difference

[00:41:50] between

[00:41:50] Rachel McAdams

[00:41:51] and Lindsay

[00:41:52] Lohan

[00:41:52] is eight

[00:41:53] years

[00:41:54] so in

[00:41:55] Bizarro

[00:41:55] World

[00:41:56] Rachel McAdams

[00:41:57] could have

[00:41:57] played

[00:41:58] Lindsay

[00:41:59] Lohan's

[00:41:59] mom

[00:42:00] in this

[00:42:01] movie

[00:42:02] yeah

[00:42:03] nuts

[00:42:04] nuts

[00:42:06] casting

[00:42:06] is really

[00:42:08] weird

[00:42:10] so Tina

[00:42:11] Faye loves

[00:42:12] to like

[00:42:13] name

[00:42:13] characters

[00:42:14] after people

[00:42:15] she knows

[00:42:15] so she

[00:42:16] did that

[00:42:17] for these

[00:42:18] characters

[00:42:18] so in

[00:42:20] the 2014

[00:42:20] interview

[00:42:21] she said

[00:42:22] she was

[00:42:23] able to

[00:42:23] say like

[00:42:23] where some

[00:42:24] of the names

[00:42:24] came from

[00:42:25] Katie

[00:42:25] was named

[00:42:26] after Faye's

[00:42:27] college roommate

[00:42:28] Katie Gary

[00:42:29] Damien was

[00:42:30] named after

[00:42:31] Faye's high

[00:42:32] school friend

[00:42:32] Damien Holbrook

[00:42:33] who actually

[00:42:34] went on to

[00:42:35] become a

[00:42:35] writer for

[00:42:36] TV guide

[00:42:37] minor character

[00:42:38] Glenn Coco

[00:42:39] you go

[00:42:39] Glenn Coco

[00:42:40] is named

[00:42:41] after a

[00:42:42] friend of

[00:42:42] Faye's

[00:42:43] older brother

[00:42:43] the real

[00:42:44] Glenn Coco

[00:42:44] works as

[00:42:45] a film editor

[00:42:46] in Los Angeles

[00:42:47] Janice Ian

[00:42:48] was named

[00:42:49] after singer

[00:42:50] Janice Ian

[00:42:51] who was

[00:42:52] once a

[00:42:53] musical guest

[00:42:54] on the

[00:42:54] first Saturday

[00:42:55] Night Live

[00:42:56] episode

[00:42:56] in which

[00:42:57] she sang a

[00:42:58] song at

[00:42:58] 17

[00:42:59] which can be

[00:43:00] heard playing

[00:43:01] in the

[00:43:01] background

[00:43:02] when the

[00:43:02] girls are

[00:43:02] fighting at

[00:43:03] Regina's

[00:43:03] house

[00:43:03] oh weird

[00:43:04] the character

[00:43:06] Miss

[00:43:06] Norbury

[00:43:07] was named

[00:43:08] after a

[00:43:08] German teacher

[00:43:09] at Upper

[00:43:11] Darby High

[00:43:11] School where

[00:43:12] Tina Fey

[00:43:13] attended

[00:43:14] I love it

[00:43:15] I like that

[00:43:16] because I feel

[00:43:16] like if I wrote

[00:43:17] a movie I

[00:43:18] definitely would

[00:43:19] name characters

[00:43:19] after people I

[00:43:20] know or

[00:43:21] hated

[00:43:21] yeah

[00:43:24] my other

[00:43:25] favorite lines

[00:43:26] is Damien

[00:43:28] and Janice

[00:43:28] are in

[00:43:29] the bathroom

[00:43:30] because Katie's

[00:43:31] eating lunch

[00:43:31] in the bathroom

[00:43:32] and then this

[00:43:33] girl comes in

[00:43:34] and she's

[00:43:35] shorter

[00:43:36] and

[00:43:37] and

[00:43:40] and she's

[00:43:41] trying to tell

[00:43:41] Damien like

[00:43:42] you can't be

[00:43:43] in here

[00:43:43] this is the

[00:43:44] girl's bathroom

[00:43:45] and then he

[00:43:46] just turned

[00:43:47] out and was

[00:43:47] like oh my

[00:43:47] god Danny

[00:43:48] DeVito I

[00:43:48] love you

[00:43:49] and like

[00:43:49] chases her

[00:43:50] out of the

[00:43:50] bathroom

[00:43:51] I love

[00:43:52] your work

[00:43:53] oh it's

[00:43:54] so good

[00:43:55] you know

[00:43:56] one of my

[00:43:57] pet peeves

[00:43:58] let me write

[00:43:58] this down

[00:43:59] is what

[00:44:00] why in

[00:44:02] movies when

[00:44:04] somebody is

[00:44:04] ostracized or

[00:44:05] like can't

[00:44:07] hang out in

[00:44:07] the cafeteria

[00:44:08] out of all

[00:44:09] the places they

[00:44:09] choose to go

[00:44:10] eat in the

[00:44:11] fucking bathroom

[00:44:12] I know you

[00:44:13] eat the duty

[00:44:13] germs

[00:44:14] it's so nasty

[00:44:16] eating in

[00:44:18] the bathroom

[00:44:20] not

[00:44:21] not good

[00:44:22] it's not a

[00:44:22] thing people

[00:44:23] did I

[00:44:24] don't know

[00:44:24] why that's

[00:44:24] like such

[00:44:25] a cliche

[00:44:25] in movies

[00:44:25] I don't

[00:44:26] eat in the

[00:44:27] bathroom

[00:44:27] style

[00:44:27] you could

[00:44:28] like literally

[00:44:28] go sit in

[00:44:29] a hallway

[00:44:29] or in a

[00:44:30] classroom

[00:44:30] like come

[00:44:31] on

[00:44:31] the library

[00:44:32] somewhere

[00:44:33] outside

[00:44:34] yeah

[00:44:34] we

[00:44:37] we find

[00:44:38] out that

[00:44:38] she wants

[00:44:39] to lose

[00:44:39] three pounds

[00:44:40] and so she's

[00:44:41] trying to figure

[00:44:42] out ways

[00:44:43] to do that

[00:44:43] but she also

[00:44:44] expects when

[00:44:45] she whenever

[00:44:46] she says I

[00:44:47] want to lose

[00:44:47] three pounds

[00:44:48] that people

[00:44:50] find all over

[00:44:50] her and tell

[00:44:51] her that she's

[00:44:52] perfect and

[00:44:52] doesn't need to

[00:44:53] lose any

[00:44:53] weight but she

[00:44:55] also doesn't

[00:44:56] understand how

[00:44:57] like calories

[00:44:58] work because

[00:44:59] it's like she's

[00:45:00] looking at a

[00:45:00] yogurt and

[00:45:02] then she's just

[00:45:02] like I'm gonna

[00:45:03] go get cheese

[00:45:04] fries

[00:45:05] and it's funny

[00:45:06] is butter a

[00:45:06] carb things

[00:45:07] like that

[00:45:08] right

[00:45:08] we also have to

[00:45:10] remember that

[00:45:10] this movie was

[00:45:11] at the height

[00:45:12] the height of

[00:45:13] what like

[00:45:14] y2k anorexia

[00:45:16] that they

[00:45:17] were pushing

[00:45:17] all of us

[00:45:18] young people

[00:45:18] high right

[00:45:19] low rise

[00:45:20] jeans

[00:45:21] hip bone

[00:45:22] coming out

[00:45:23] kind of

[00:45:23] nonsense

[00:45:24] so I was

[00:45:25] surprised that

[00:45:26] Regina was

[00:45:27] even eating

[00:45:27] anything in

[00:45:28] the first

[00:45:28] place

[00:45:28] yeah

[00:45:29] let's talk

[00:45:30] about the

[00:45:31] rating

[00:45:31] so the

[00:45:32] rating

[00:45:33] they fought

[00:45:33] hard for

[00:45:34] the pg-13

[00:45:35] rating

[00:45:35] but there

[00:45:36] was a lot

[00:45:37] of jokes

[00:45:37] that had to

[00:45:38] like be

[00:45:38] changed and

[00:45:39] cut out

[00:45:39] because they

[00:45:41] were kind

[00:45:42] of like

[00:45:42] lingering on

[00:45:43] getting an

[00:45:44] r

[00:45:45] so in

[00:45:46] a scene

[00:45:46] where katie

[00:45:47] was asked

[00:45:47] if her

[00:45:48] muffin was

[00:45:48] buttered

[00:45:49] from i think

[00:45:50] it was was

[00:45:51] a jason

[00:45:51] it was originally

[00:45:52] supposed to be

[00:45:53] is your cherry

[00:45:54] popped the

[00:45:55] same went for

[00:45:55] the girl who

[00:45:56] made out with

[00:45:56] the hot dog

[00:45:57] this was

[00:45:57] supposed to

[00:45:58] be masturbated

[00:45:59] with the hot

[00:45:59] dog and

[00:46:01] they were

[00:46:01] omitted for

[00:46:03] a pg-13

[00:46:03] rating instead

[00:46:05] of an r

[00:46:05] i think

[00:46:06] there was

[00:46:07] another line

[00:46:08] that she

[00:46:09] tina faye

[00:46:09] ended up

[00:46:10] fighting for

[00:46:11] because

[00:46:11] the wide

[00:46:12] set vagina

[00:46:13] joke which

[00:46:13] yeah i love

[00:46:15] this fact

[00:46:15] the girl

[00:46:17] who plays

[00:46:19] this character

[00:46:20] with the

[00:46:21] wide set vagina

[00:46:22] she doesn't

[00:46:23] have many

[00:46:24] lines but

[00:46:25] every single

[00:46:25] line she has

[00:46:26] hits

[00:46:27] she's so

[00:46:29] good

[00:46:29] but it was

[00:46:31] becoming difficult

[00:46:32] to keep the

[00:46:33] wide set

[00:46:33] vagina joke

[00:46:34] but tina faye

[00:46:36] pointed out

[00:46:37] that anchorman

[00:46:37] or i'm sorry

[00:46:39] the the director

[00:46:40] pointed out that

[00:46:41] anchorman had

[00:46:42] similar dialogue

[00:46:43] and received

[00:46:44] that a pg-13

[00:46:46] rating so they

[00:46:47] won that battle

[00:46:48] for yeah and

[00:46:49] and like i

[00:46:50] don't even know

[00:46:50] how because when

[00:46:51] i think about

[00:46:52] it it's so

[00:46:53] tame and

[00:46:53] in comparison

[00:46:54] that's what i

[00:46:55] was thinking

[00:46:56] yeah

[00:46:57] violence in it

[00:46:58] because it's

[00:46:58] men it's men

[00:46:59] saying these

[00:47:00] things and then

[00:47:01] like young women

[00:47:02] say them they're

[00:47:03] like that's

[00:47:03] inappropriate which

[00:47:04] is so weird

[00:47:05] because the

[00:47:05] young women are

[00:47:06] the ones with

[00:47:06] the vagina

[00:47:09] and like when

[00:47:10] the men say

[00:47:11] vagina they're

[00:47:11] like haha so

[00:47:12] funny that's

[00:47:13] yeah pg-13

[00:47:13] is fine that's

[00:47:14] what it feels

[00:47:15] like to me

[00:47:17] wide set vagina

[00:47:18] is a clinical

[00:47:20] term like

[00:47:22] like you're not

[00:47:23] saying anything

[00:47:24] that you wouldn't

[00:47:25] hear maybe at

[00:47:26] a doc i i don't

[00:47:27] know if there

[00:47:27] are wide set

[00:47:28] vaginas but like

[00:47:29] which is vagina

[00:47:31] is not like a

[00:47:32] dirty word

[00:47:32] question for the

[00:47:33] audience if you're

[00:47:34] still listening

[00:47:35] do you have a

[00:47:36] wide set vagina

[00:47:37] is it real

[00:47:40] is it or a

[00:47:41] medium set

[00:47:42] or a small

[00:47:43] set small

[00:47:44] set narrow

[00:47:45] set

[00:47:47] please let us

[00:47:48] know but

[00:47:49] that was

[00:47:51] yeah like the

[00:47:53] least offensive

[00:47:54] joke in this

[00:47:55] whole movie

[00:47:56] could you imagine

[00:47:58] this movie being

[00:47:59] called anything

[00:48:00] other than

[00:48:00] mean girls

[00:48:02] no

[00:48:04] no

[00:48:05] it was

[00:48:05] what was it

[00:48:06] gonna be

[00:48:07] it was originally

[00:48:08] going to be called

[00:48:09] homeschooled

[00:48:10] boring

[00:48:12] yes very

[00:48:12] that's probably

[00:48:13] just like the

[00:48:14] title they held

[00:48:15] it or the

[00:48:15] holding title

[00:48:16] what is it

[00:48:16] called

[00:48:17] yeah

[00:48:18] that i

[00:48:18] don't know

[00:48:19] they send it

[00:48:20] out

[00:48:21] a script

[00:48:21] was a

[00:48:22] screenplay

[00:48:22] was titled

[00:48:23] that we'll

[00:48:23] come up with

[00:48:24] a better

[00:48:24] one later

[00:48:24] it should have

[00:48:26] been called

[00:48:26] wide set

[00:48:27] vagina

[00:48:27] do you guys

[00:48:29] think that

[00:48:29] regina was

[00:48:30] really really

[00:48:32] mean

[00:48:33] here we go

[00:48:36] i'm just

[00:48:37] i'm i'm

[00:48:38] just putting

[00:48:39] that question

[00:48:39] out there

[00:48:40] it's interesting

[00:48:41] because there

[00:48:42] were glimpses

[00:48:43] of her

[00:48:44] genuinely

[00:48:45] being nice

[00:48:46] and caring

[00:48:47] and then

[00:48:48] she immediately

[00:48:50] reverted back

[00:48:51] to meanness

[00:48:52] right

[00:48:52] which i think

[00:48:54] worked in her

[00:48:56] favor because

[00:48:56] you never

[00:48:57] really hated

[00:48:58] hated regina

[00:48:59] you were

[00:49:00] always just

[00:49:00] like

[00:49:01] why are you

[00:49:02] gonna be

[00:49:02] shitting

[00:49:02] intimidated by

[00:49:03] her

[00:49:03] i would say

[00:49:05] and like

[00:49:06] she

[00:49:07] how was i

[00:49:08] gonna say

[00:49:08] i just lost

[00:49:09] my thought

[00:49:09] my thought

[00:49:10] went right

[00:49:10] through the

[00:49:11] computer screen

[00:49:12] out the other

[00:49:13] side and to

[00:49:13] the front of

[00:49:14] my house

[00:49:14] down the street

[00:49:16] i would

[00:49:16] i would call

[00:49:17] her controlling

[00:49:18] for sure

[00:49:20] she she was

[00:49:21] mean in the way

[00:49:22] of like she was

[00:49:22] controlling of

[00:49:23] her friends

[00:49:23] but her friends

[00:49:24] had no spine

[00:49:25] yeah

[00:49:26] stood up to her

[00:49:26] so that's on

[00:49:27] them too

[00:49:28] yeah

[00:49:28] there were

[00:49:29] things she did

[00:49:29] that was mean

[00:49:30] like telling

[00:49:31] everyone that

[00:49:33] that janice is

[00:49:35] a lesbian and

[00:49:36] can't be at her

[00:49:37] birthday party

[00:49:37] that shit

[00:49:38] was mean

[00:49:39] yeah

[00:49:40] terrible

[00:49:42] definitely

[00:49:42] was not nice

[00:49:44] to her

[00:49:45] friend

[00:49:46] and i think

[00:49:47] she was

[00:49:48] very passive

[00:49:49] aggressive

[00:49:49] and i you know

[00:49:52] her meanness

[00:49:52] sometimes

[00:49:53] wasn't up

[00:49:54] front

[00:49:54] and i

[00:49:55] hate

[00:49:55] a passive

[00:49:55] aggressive

[00:49:56] bitch

[00:49:56] i'll tell

[00:49:57] you that

[00:49:57] but like

[00:49:58] when one

[00:49:59] of the

[00:49:59] girls

[00:50:00] when she

[00:50:00] said oh

[00:50:01] i love

[00:50:01] your skirt

[00:50:02] this is

[00:50:02] when katie

[00:50:03] is kind

[00:50:03] of recognizing

[00:50:05] her character

[00:50:06] that regina's

[00:50:07] characteristics

[00:50:07] that she's

[00:50:08] not maybe

[00:50:08] the best

[00:50:09] person

[00:50:09] she's like

[00:50:11] oh i love

[00:50:11] your skirt

[00:50:12] and then as

[00:50:12] soon as the

[00:50:13] girl walks

[00:50:13] away

[00:50:13] she's like

[00:50:14] i hate

[00:50:15] your effing

[00:50:15] skirt

[00:50:16] which

[00:50:17] you went

[00:50:18] out of

[00:50:18] your way

[00:50:19] to do

[00:50:19] yes

[00:50:20] yeah

[00:50:20] that was

[00:50:21] like just

[00:50:22] a power

[00:50:23] play

[00:50:23] right

[00:50:24] there's a lot

[00:50:25] of power

[00:50:25] plays a lot

[00:50:26] of like

[00:50:26] needing

[00:50:27] control

[00:50:27] in her

[00:50:28] life

[00:50:28] yes

[00:50:29] and i

[00:50:30] i think

[00:50:31] one of

[00:50:32] the things

[00:50:32] that this

[00:50:33] movie does

[00:50:34] really well

[00:50:35] is kind

[00:50:35] of showing

[00:50:37] that world

[00:50:39] of

[00:50:39] like women

[00:50:41] and how

[00:50:43] they

[00:50:43] operate

[00:50:44] now like

[00:50:45] if you

[00:50:45] pull back

[00:50:46] a little

[00:50:47] bit more

[00:50:47] yes

[00:50:48] you're

[00:50:49] seeing this

[00:50:49] in a

[00:50:49] high school

[00:50:50] setting

[00:50:50] i would

[00:50:51] love to

[00:50:52] see this

[00:50:52] in a

[00:50:53] work

[00:50:54] setting

[00:50:54] yes

[00:50:56] and

[00:50:58] again

[00:50:59] when i

[00:51:00] like

[00:51:00] i'm not

[00:51:01] mad that

[00:51:02] this movie

[00:51:03] primarily

[00:51:04] focuses on

[00:51:06] white girls

[00:51:08] because

[00:51:11] girl world

[00:51:12] is a big

[00:51:12] world

[00:51:13] and there's

[00:51:14] different

[00:51:14] dynamics

[00:51:15] and at

[00:51:15] the

[00:51:16] the

[00:51:16] like

[00:51:16] baseline

[00:51:18] many

[00:51:19] women

[00:51:20] can

[00:51:20] understand

[00:51:21] things

[00:51:22] as

[00:51:23] women

[00:51:24] but when

[00:51:25] you talk

[00:51:25] about

[00:51:26] the

[00:51:26] white

[00:51:27] women

[00:51:28] and

[00:51:28] culturally

[00:51:29] how

[00:51:30] and this

[00:51:31] is just

[00:51:31] me as

[00:51:31] an observer

[00:51:32] you guys

[00:51:32] tell me

[00:51:33] if i'm

[00:51:33] wrong

[00:51:33] that

[00:51:35] that

[00:51:36] passive

[00:51:37] aggressiveness

[00:51:37] is kind

[00:51:38] of taught

[00:51:39] because

[00:51:40] that is

[00:51:41] how

[00:51:41] survival

[00:51:43] happens

[00:51:43] especially

[00:51:44] when engaging

[00:51:45] with white

[00:51:45] men

[00:51:46] and so

[00:51:47] there becomes

[00:51:48] like this

[00:51:48] cat of

[00:51:49] cat of

[00:51:51] cat of

[00:51:51] clisphic

[00:51:51] situation

[00:51:52] that happens

[00:51:53] because of

[00:51:54] it and

[00:51:55] and like

[00:51:57] other cultures

[00:51:58] it is totally

[00:51:59] okay to be

[00:52:00] outspoken

[00:52:02] open

[00:52:03] and say

[00:52:04] what needs

[00:52:04] to be

[00:52:04] said

[00:52:06] without

[00:52:06] having to

[00:52:07] have like

[00:52:07] this

[00:52:08] underneath

[00:52:08] cattiness

[00:52:09] because it's

[00:52:10] taught

[00:52:11] i mean i

[00:52:11] think for

[00:52:12] women in

[00:52:12] general we're

[00:52:13] taught to

[00:52:13] be quiet

[00:52:14] and demure

[00:52:14] but i think

[00:52:15] it's even

[00:52:16] more put so

[00:52:17] on upon

[00:52:19] white women

[00:52:19] and so

[00:52:20] you see

[00:52:21] part of

[00:52:21] why white

[00:52:21] women are

[00:52:22] so terrifying

[00:52:22] yes

[00:52:24] especially

[00:52:25] at work

[00:52:28] for other

[00:52:29] women

[00:52:30] especially

[00:52:31] like women

[00:52:31] of color

[00:52:32] because

[00:52:32] they don't

[00:52:34] always necessarily

[00:52:35] operate in

[00:52:36] that way

[00:52:37] you know

[00:52:37] and i think

[00:52:38] this could also

[00:52:39] go to why

[00:52:40] sometimes it's

[00:52:41] so hard to

[00:52:42] have

[00:52:43] intersectionality

[00:52:44] with feminism

[00:52:45] because

[00:52:47] we can't

[00:52:48] have those

[00:52:49] conversations

[00:52:49] to kind of

[00:52:50] get to

[00:52:51] the nitty-gritty

[00:52:52] of that

[00:52:53] and how

[00:52:53] sometimes

[00:52:54] growing up

[00:52:56] with that

[00:52:56] puts other

[00:52:56] people in

[00:52:57] danger

[00:52:57] essentially

[00:52:58] so it was

[00:52:59] very interesting

[00:52:59] now as an

[00:53:00] older person

[00:53:01] watching this

[00:53:02] and seeing

[00:53:02] how it

[00:53:03] so can

[00:53:03] translate

[00:53:04] into what

[00:53:05] i've seen

[00:53:05] at work

[00:53:06] and how

[00:53:07] i have to

[00:53:07] operate in

[00:53:08] a totally

[00:53:08] different

[00:53:09] situation

[00:53:10] because

[00:53:11] of how

[00:53:12] you have

[00:53:13] people like

[00:53:14] a regina

[00:53:14] george

[00:53:15] who can't

[00:53:15] flat out

[00:53:16] be open

[00:53:17] about who

[00:53:18] they are

[00:53:19] yeah

[00:53:20] or even

[00:53:21] like a

[00:53:21] gretchen

[00:53:22] wiener

[00:53:22] who kind

[00:53:23] of hides

[00:53:23] behind the

[00:53:24] fact that

[00:53:24] like because

[00:53:26] she's always

[00:53:26] like my

[00:53:27] father invented

[00:53:28] toaster strudel

[00:53:29] and it's

[00:53:29] kind of like

[00:53:30] a funny

[00:53:30] throwaway

[00:53:31] joke but

[00:53:31] it's like

[00:53:32] she almost

[00:53:33] says it

[00:53:34] with the

[00:53:34] intent of

[00:53:35] like he's

[00:53:36] gonna come

[00:53:36] after you

[00:53:36] like he's

[00:53:37] big and

[00:53:37] scary

[00:53:38] right

[00:53:39] because he

[00:53:39] has all

[00:53:40] this power

[00:53:41] and money

[00:53:41] and so

[00:53:42] like i'm

[00:53:44] just gonna

[00:53:44] sick my

[00:53:44] daddy after

[00:53:45] you so

[00:53:46] she doesn't

[00:53:47] have to

[00:53:47] have any

[00:53:48] sort of

[00:53:48] spine or

[00:53:49] anything because

[00:53:50] she's just

[00:53:51] relying on

[00:53:52] the male

[00:53:52] figure in

[00:53:53] her life

[00:53:53] to fight

[00:53:54] her fights

[00:53:54] for her

[00:53:55] and she

[00:53:56] uses secrets

[00:53:57] as a way

[00:53:58] to hold

[00:54:00] power

[00:54:01] so even

[00:54:02] in that

[00:54:02] trio

[00:54:03] she holds

[00:54:04] dominance

[00:54:05] over karen

[00:54:06] karen seems

[00:54:06] like she

[00:54:07] doesn't care

[00:54:07] but she

[00:54:08] still has

[00:54:08] that weight

[00:54:09] she finds

[00:54:10] usefulness

[00:54:11] or just

[00:54:12] like being

[00:54:13] able to

[00:54:14] hold all

[00:54:14] of regina's

[00:54:15] secrets

[00:54:15] yeah

[00:54:16] and anybody

[00:54:18] else's that

[00:54:19] she needs

[00:54:19] to to help

[00:54:20] regina

[00:54:21] to survive

[00:54:22] yeah

[00:54:22] so it's

[00:54:24] just you

[00:54:25] know so

[00:54:25] i love

[00:54:26] seeing katie

[00:54:27] come into

[00:54:27] the situation

[00:54:28] who did

[00:54:29] not grow

[00:54:30] up in

[00:54:30] quote unquote

[00:54:31] girl world

[00:54:32] and especially

[00:54:33] white woman

[00:54:34] girl world

[00:54:35] not knowing

[00:54:36] these unsaid

[00:54:37] rules

[00:54:38] and and

[00:54:39] like having

[00:54:40] to figure

[00:54:40] this shit

[00:54:41] out and

[00:54:42] then you

[00:54:42] see janice

[00:54:43] operating outside

[00:54:44] of it she

[00:54:45] knows how it

[00:54:46] works but

[00:54:47] she rebels

[00:54:48] against it

[00:54:48] mainly because

[00:54:49] she was so

[00:54:50] hurt probably

[00:54:51] at a young

[00:54:51] age and

[00:54:52] says you

[00:54:52] know what

[00:54:52] i want

[00:54:53] to be a

[00:54:53] part of

[00:54:53] that shit

[00:54:54] but i

[00:54:54] would love

[00:54:55] to tear

[00:54:55] it down

[00:54:56] i would

[00:54:56] love to

[00:54:56] fuck with

[00:54:57] it but

[00:54:58] then she

[00:54:59] inadvertently

[00:54:59] she uses

[00:55:00] katie even

[00:55:00] though katie's

[00:55:01] in on the

[00:55:02] plan but

[00:55:03] she's not

[00:55:04] she doesn't

[00:55:04] have that

[00:55:06] understanding

[00:55:07] of right

[00:55:08] why what

[00:55:09] the motivations

[00:55:09] are behind

[00:55:11] janice's

[00:55:12] well she's

[00:55:12] just trying

[00:55:12] to take

[00:55:13] her power

[00:55:13] back to

[00:55:14] yeah

[00:55:14] right

[00:55:14] really

[00:55:15] interesting

[00:55:17] i thought

[00:55:18] this was

[00:55:18] gonna be

[00:55:18] a fun

[00:55:19] movie

[00:55:20] i hope

[00:55:22] people aren't

[00:55:22] mad and

[00:55:23] when they

[00:55:24] listen to

[00:55:24] this episode

[00:55:25] well it's

[00:55:26] conversations

[00:55:27] that we

[00:55:27] should be

[00:55:28] having and

[00:55:29] like not

[00:55:30] everything is

[00:55:31] fun and we

[00:55:31] can still

[00:55:32] enjoy the

[00:55:33] movie

[00:55:33] but also

[00:55:34] understand

[00:55:35] that there

[00:55:37] are certain

[00:55:38] things about

[00:55:39] it that we

[00:55:40] need to have

[00:55:41] conversations about

[00:55:42] and explore it

[00:55:43] on a deeper

[00:55:43] level

[00:55:44] well it's part

[00:55:45] of what's so

[00:55:45] great about

[00:55:46] this podcast

[00:55:46] and and

[00:55:47] and why i

[00:55:48] keep coming

[00:55:48] back and

[00:55:49] why everybody

[00:55:50] should listen

[00:55:50] to it because

[00:55:51] you talk about

[00:55:53] then versus

[00:55:54] now and

[00:55:54] there's so

[00:55:55] much that

[00:55:55] changes and

[00:55:56] the time it

[00:55:57] does so much

[00:55:58] and wisdom

[00:55:59] does so much

[00:55:59] and like you

[00:56:00] know as we

[00:56:01] age we learn

[00:56:02] and we grow

[00:56:03] and i think

[00:56:03] that's like part

[00:56:04] of the whole

[00:56:05] thing you guys

[00:56:06] are doing so

[00:56:07] it is super

[00:56:08] important and

[00:56:09] like yeah we

[00:56:09] can love this

[00:56:10] love the heck

[00:56:11] out of this

[00:56:11] movie and

[00:56:11] criticize it

[00:56:12] at the same

[00:56:12] time yes

[00:56:14] it's our

[00:56:15] favorite past

[00:56:16] time

[00:56:17] that's what

[00:56:18] that's what

[00:56:19] you both are

[00:56:20] so good at

[00:56:20] it you can

[00:56:21] find them on

[00:56:22] instagram

[00:56:25] no more

[00:56:25] late fees

[00:56:26] no give

[00:56:27] them money

[00:56:28] give them

[00:56:29] these

[00:56:30] i do love

[00:56:33] the dynamic

[00:56:34] like seeing

[00:56:35] the different

[00:56:36] friendships

[00:56:36] form between

[00:56:38] obviously you

[00:56:39] have the trio

[00:56:40] of the

[00:56:41] plastics then

[00:56:42] you have

[00:56:42] the trio

[00:56:43] of katie

[00:56:44] coming in

[00:56:45] with janice

[00:56:46] and damien

[00:56:47] and how

[00:56:48] they like

[00:56:49] you know

[00:56:49] let her

[00:56:50] be herself

[00:56:50] and

[00:56:52] they're just

[00:56:53] so welcoming

[00:56:54] to her

[00:56:54] and they're

[00:56:55] even welcoming

[00:56:56] because like

[00:56:57] let me tell

[00:56:57] you i've

[00:56:59] had that

[00:57:00] happen before

[00:57:00] where you

[00:57:01] make friends

[00:57:02] with the new

[00:57:02] person and

[00:57:03] then they

[00:57:04] decide that

[00:57:05] they want to

[00:57:05] level up with

[00:57:06] somebody else

[00:57:07] more popular

[00:57:08] and now

[00:57:09] you're not

[00:57:10] friends anymore

[00:57:11] yeah

[00:57:11] after they

[00:57:12] got their

[00:57:12] footing and

[00:57:13] they're like

[00:57:13] this is where

[00:57:14] i belong

[00:57:15] now i'm

[00:57:15] like okay

[00:57:16] bitch put

[00:57:17] you in my

[00:57:18] book

[00:57:19] i think it's

[00:57:20] great that

[00:57:21] when katie went

[00:57:22] to go sit

[00:57:22] with the

[00:57:22] plastics and

[00:57:23] didn't choose

[00:57:24] damien and

[00:57:26] and they

[00:57:28] weren't mad

[00:57:29] at her

[00:57:29] yeah and

[00:57:30] they were

[00:57:30] just like oh

[00:57:31] well this is

[00:57:32] perfect we can

[00:57:32] have the plan

[00:57:33] and one of

[00:57:33] my favorite

[00:57:34] scenes is

[00:57:35] you know katie

[00:57:37] decides that

[00:57:37] she's still

[00:57:38] gonna try to

[00:57:38] be nice to

[00:57:39] the plastics

[00:57:39] whatever and

[00:57:41] she you

[00:57:42] know less

[00:57:43] she meets

[00:57:44] aaron really

[00:57:47] likes him

[00:57:47] tells gretchen

[00:57:49] that she likes

[00:57:50] him and

[00:57:50] gretchen's like

[00:57:51] oh no you

[00:57:52] can't you

[00:57:53] can't like

[00:57:53] aaron it's

[00:57:54] just like

[00:57:55] against the

[00:57:55] rules

[00:57:55] she still

[00:57:56] goes about

[00:57:57] her business

[00:57:57] to do it

[00:57:58] and when they

[00:57:58] have the

[00:57:59] halloween

[00:57:59] party and

[00:58:01] of course

[00:58:02] gretchen went

[00:58:02] and told

[00:58:03] regina that

[00:58:03] like katie

[00:58:04] likes aaron

[00:58:05] now all of a

[00:58:06] sudden regina's

[00:58:07] like okay

[00:58:07] aaron's back

[00:58:08] on the market

[00:58:09] for me

[00:58:09] and when she

[00:58:10] like loses

[00:58:11] her shit

[00:58:12] and then goes

[00:58:13] back to

[00:58:13] janice's i

[00:58:14] guess they're

[00:58:15] at damien's

[00:58:15] house or his

[00:58:16] garage or

[00:58:17] whatever that

[00:58:18] blackboard scene

[00:58:19] i wrote it

[00:58:20] down it was

[00:58:21] aaron samuel's

[00:58:22] body and

[00:58:23] army of skanks

[00:58:25] oh yeah

[00:58:26] yeah yeah

[00:58:27] the way to

[00:58:28] take her

[00:58:28] down and

[00:58:28] i feel like

[00:58:29] whenever i'm

[00:58:30] ready to take

[00:58:31] down an

[00:58:31] enemy i do

[00:58:32] the same

[00:58:33] thing you

[00:58:34] gotta have

[00:58:34] on a

[00:58:34] chalkboard in

[00:58:35] your garage

[00:58:35] gotta have

[00:58:36] some sort

[00:58:37] of board

[00:58:38] something for

[00:58:39] everybody to

[00:58:40] see what

[00:58:41] you're plotting

[00:58:41] so you can get

[00:58:42] it done

[00:58:43] it's the high

[00:58:43] school level

[00:58:44] equivalent of

[00:58:46] the whiteboard

[00:58:47] in first wives

[00:58:48] club where

[00:58:49] they're

[00:58:49] down the

[00:58:50] ex-husband

[00:58:51] yeah and

[00:58:52] just like

[00:58:53] taking everything

[00:58:54] away from him

[00:58:55] that you know

[00:58:57] we talked about

[00:58:57] that in that

[00:58:58] episode because

[00:58:59] i was like i

[00:59:01] don't know where

[00:59:02] they got that

[00:59:03] board from it

[00:59:04] looked like a

[00:59:05] roadmap to

[00:59:05] success

[00:59:06] it was amazing

[00:59:09] one of gretchen's

[00:59:11] secrets is

[00:59:12] regina makes

[00:59:13] out with this

[00:59:13] other guy

[00:59:14] in the

[00:59:15] projection room

[00:59:16] on tuesdays

[00:59:16] and thursdays

[00:59:17] above the

[00:59:17] auditorium

[00:59:18] so they keep

[00:59:19] trying to get

[00:59:20] erin to go

[00:59:21] to the

[00:59:21] projection room

[00:59:22] but one

[00:59:23] of the things

[00:59:23] they do

[00:59:24] is just put

[00:59:24] a sign up

[00:59:25] that says

[00:59:26] swim practice

[00:59:26] is held in

[00:59:27] the projection

[00:59:28] room today

[00:59:29] it's

[00:59:30] swim practice

[00:59:30] will be held

[00:59:31] in the projection

[00:59:32] room above

[00:59:32] the auditorium

[00:59:34] it's so funny

[00:59:35] and i like

[00:59:36] when lindsey

[00:59:37] is like oh

[00:59:38] no my purse

[00:59:39] i think he's

[00:59:40] headed for the

[00:59:41] projection room

[00:59:41] above the

[00:59:42] auditorium and

[00:59:42] then looks so

[00:59:43] satisfied with

[00:59:44] that oh it's

[00:59:46] she's like i

[00:59:47] did it

[00:59:49] and damien is

[00:59:50] just like running

[00:59:52] for his life

[00:59:53] for damien i'm

[00:59:54] like he

[00:59:55] always in

[00:59:56] costume that

[00:59:56] one yeah

[00:59:58] yes he

[00:59:59] looks like a

[01:00:00] robber like he

[01:00:01] has just

[01:00:01] pantyhose on his

[01:00:02] head like

[01:00:03] at a high school

[01:00:04] and i love

[01:00:05] how like when

[01:00:06] they do go

[01:00:07] in there they

[01:00:08] catch coach

[01:00:09] car with his

[01:00:10] pedophilia

[01:00:10] yeah and

[01:00:13] like he's

[01:00:14] right there

[01:00:15] he you don't

[01:00:16] ever see what

[01:00:17] happens the

[01:00:18] resolution

[01:00:18] yeah the

[01:00:20] bag and

[01:00:20] everything

[01:00:20] i always think

[01:00:22] it's interesting

[01:00:23] how in some

[01:00:24] of these mean

[01:00:25] girl kind of

[01:00:26] movies where

[01:00:27] the queen bee

[01:00:28] thinks so much

[01:00:30] that she's on

[01:00:31] the top that

[01:00:32] she can get a

[01:00:33] little pet or a

[01:00:34] project and

[01:00:35] like remake

[01:00:36] them and

[01:00:36] that they're

[01:00:37] not going to

[01:00:38] be competition

[01:00:39] to them and

[01:00:40] we quickly start

[01:00:41] to see that

[01:00:42] after regina

[01:00:43] takes katie

[01:00:44] under her

[01:00:44] wing that

[01:00:45] katie flourishes

[01:00:46] and that now

[01:00:47] there's like

[01:00:48] talks in the

[01:00:49] school that

[01:00:50] katie may

[01:00:51] potentially be

[01:00:52] like the new

[01:00:53] regina george

[01:00:54] even when the

[01:00:56] fact that like

[01:00:57] unbeknownst to

[01:00:58] her and damien

[01:00:59] and you know

[01:01:00] what it is i keep

[01:01:01] going to call

[01:01:02] her janice

[01:01:02] lizzie but

[01:01:04] yeah and

[01:01:05] janice that

[01:01:06] the school

[01:01:07] actually votes

[01:01:08] for katie as

[01:01:10] one of the

[01:01:11] the nominees

[01:01:12] for queen

[01:01:13] or i don't

[01:01:14] know what

[01:01:15] was it

[01:01:17] spring

[01:01:17] playing

[01:01:18] queen

[01:01:18] yeah and

[01:01:21] i think regina

[01:01:22] does see

[01:01:23] that in

[01:01:25] katie and

[01:01:26] that's why she

[01:01:26] starts to do

[01:01:27] some of those

[01:01:28] things like

[01:01:28] with aaron

[01:01:30] and kind

[01:01:31] of just

[01:01:32] passive aggressive

[01:01:32] things towards

[01:01:33] katie yeah

[01:01:34] and i think

[01:01:35] she it's weird

[01:01:36] because she

[01:01:36] noticed it

[01:01:37] early on i

[01:01:38] think and

[01:01:39] still did the

[01:01:40] makeover and

[01:01:40] tried to was

[01:01:41] it like let

[01:01:42] me befriend

[01:01:42] her before she

[01:01:43] really becomes

[01:01:44] like her own

[01:01:46] thing maybe

[01:01:47] she was thinking

[01:01:48] like if i can

[01:01:49] get her in my

[01:01:50] orbit i can

[01:01:51] control her

[01:01:54] maybe yeah

[01:01:55] it's a really

[01:01:56] interesting question

[01:01:57] she seems like

[01:01:59] she could be

[01:01:59] controlled pretty

[01:02:00] easily because

[01:02:01] again she

[01:02:02] doesn't know

[01:02:02] the unsaid

[01:02:03] social contracts

[01:02:04] and how things

[01:02:05] work because

[01:02:06] she's been so

[01:02:07] removed from

[01:02:08] girl world

[01:02:09] quote unquote

[01:02:09] so for a

[01:02:11] while katie but