First Wives Club

[00:00:00] This week, we're dishing all the dirt on the ultimate breakup movie, The First Wives Club,

[00:00:06] and asking if there's anything more satisfying than watching these women get their revenge.

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[00:00:51] Welcome to the No More Late Fees podcast.

[00:00:53] I'm Danielle.

[00:00:54] And I'm Jackie.

[00:00:55] And we're just two best friends and ex-Blockbuster employees rewatching some of the best and

[00:00:59] worst movies from the late 90s and early 2000s.

[00:01:03] This week, we are talking about the 1996 comedy, The First Wives Club.

[00:01:08] But before we dive in, let's get into some housekeeping.

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[00:01:49] But we are not alone this week.

[00:01:52] We're switching it up and having our moms, aka Terry and Christine, give their

[00:01:57] commentary as we go throughout the movie.

[00:02:00] Kind of like pop up video, if you know what that is, but way more unhinged.

[00:02:05] Yeah.

[00:02:06] And if I'm scared and excited, yeah.

[00:02:11] And if you want to get to know our moms a little bit better, come back later this week as

[00:02:18] we test their knowledge on our friendship, the podcast, and so much more on our bonus

[00:02:22] episode.

[00:02:23] Let's dive into this movie, Jackie.

[00:02:27] Despondent over the marriage of her ex-husband to a younger woman, a middle

[00:02:32] age divorcee plunges to her death from her penthouse.

[00:02:36] At the woman's funeral, her former college friends reunite for the first time in nearly

[00:02:40] 30 years.

[00:02:42] When the three discover the reason for their friend's suicide, they realize that all

[00:02:47] of their ex-husbands have taken them for granted.

[00:02:51] And deciding it's time for revenge, they make a pact to get back at their exes.

[00:02:56] starring Bed Midler, Goldie Haan, Diane Keaton, Maggie Smith, Dan Hedaya, Bronson

[00:03:01] Pinchot and Marcia Gay Hardin.

[00:03:05] Among others, this movie is jam-packed with famous faces.

[00:03:10] Victor Garber, my boo.

[00:03:13] Victor Garber, the dad from 7th Heaven, which we do not refer to him by name.

[00:03:19] Sarah Jessica Parker, Jesse Spano from Save by the Bell.

[00:03:24] Elizabeth.

[00:03:25] Elizabeth Berkley.

[00:03:27] Berkley, thank you.

[00:03:30] Directed by Hugh Wilson, screenplay was by Robert Harling and it was based on the

[00:03:36] first wise club by Olivia Goldsmith.

[00:03:39] You can currently watch it on Paramount Plus.

[00:03:42] But before we start, let's go ahead and get into our ratings rewind.

[00:03:46] So you know the drill.

[00:03:48] Before we get into the movie, we'll reveal the rating our Y2K versions of

[00:03:51] ourselves would give.

[00:03:52] Then at the end, we'll see if our current sales agree with our initial rating.

[00:03:56] Our scale consists of would buy it, would buy it again.

[00:04:00] The best would plan repeat.

[00:04:02] Five day rental.

[00:04:04] Would watch again.

[00:04:06] Two day rental.

[00:04:07] It's okay, but nothing to write home about.

[00:04:10] And same day rental.

[00:04:12] Like most of the men in this movie, trash.

[00:04:15] Straight up.

[00:04:17] Trash.

[00:04:18] Ex-husband, Gabbage.

[00:04:21] All right.

[00:04:23] Well, I'll start with mine, I guess.

[00:04:26] It's not even a question.

[00:04:28] Would buy would buy it again.

[00:04:32] How about you, Jackie?

[00:04:33] Same.

[00:04:33] We own this.

[00:04:35] It was a mystery favorite she would throw on.

[00:04:39] Probably when she was mad at my dad.

[00:04:44] Well, I'm glad you brought it up.

[00:04:46] Let's hear what the moms had to say about their ratings.

[00:04:49] Mom, Terry, what was your Y2K rating of First Wise Club?

[00:04:53] Would buy it.

[00:04:54] Did buy it.

[00:04:55] Okay.

[00:04:56] Okay.

[00:04:58] Mom, what was your rating?

[00:05:00] Same day rental.

[00:05:03] What?

[00:05:08] Danielle, you know, I watched the movie and the meaning that I have now is a little

[00:05:16] bit different back then.

[00:05:18] Gotcha.

[00:05:19] I did want to tell the story of why I was like, Jackie, if we do First Wise Club, I would

[00:05:25] really like our moms to be on because I have a sentimental reason for this movie.

[00:05:29] So my mom and I, when we were first moving to Florida and it was just me and her, she

[00:05:36] would try to take me to different movies and stuff like that.

[00:05:41] And we would go to Albertsons because they had 99 cent movies and she would get like

[00:05:46] a pizza pie crust and we would make pizza together.

[00:05:50] And it would just be like a whole routine, fun girls night in together.

[00:05:56] And I remember specifically one of the movies that we watched in that time period

[00:06:01] was First Wise Club.

[00:06:02] So I think it imprinted on me in that way at the time.

[00:06:08] So that's why I picked the movie mom.

[00:06:10] I didn't know that you didn't love it that much until last night when we

[00:06:14] watched it and you're like, I don't remember any of this.

[00:06:19] I like the Joy Luck Club.

[00:06:21] Yes, we did.

[00:06:22] That was my, you know, that was meant more to me than, you know.

[00:06:28] Yeah, it's not in our time period, but I.

[00:06:33] I remember us very much loving that movie.

[00:06:36] A lot of a lot of commentary on that one.

[00:06:39] Yeah.

[00:06:41] So the movie had a budget of twenty six million dollars

[00:06:45] and it made over one hundred and eighty one million dollars worldwide.

[00:06:51] That's amazing.

[00:06:53] But also, like they thought it was not going to do much.

[00:06:58] It was going to be kind of a flop.

[00:06:59] It was up against a bunch of like men movies.

[00:07:03] I'm looking at the box office right now.

[00:07:05] And all three women want to do a sequel.

[00:07:10] And the studios don't think it'll make any.

[00:07:13] I'm sorry.

[00:07:15] I think as we continue to do this show,

[00:07:18] it just shows next.

[00:07:20] Don't even believe what they're selling or what they're saying.

[00:07:24] Yeah, because there's been proof points at this at this venture.

[00:07:28] Like you can't tell me that a female lead movie is not going to do well.

[00:07:34] You can't tell me that a black movie is not going to perform well,

[00:07:40] especially when you're we're seeing such small budgets that they were originally

[00:07:44] given and then they way exceed.

[00:07:47] And then it's like the goalpost moves again and again and again and again.

[00:07:51] We have had so many female directors, writers.

[00:07:55] And one of the trends is that you get these female directors.

[00:07:59] You give them these like big movies that nobody really wants their YA.

[00:08:03] Their women led movies and then they do extremely well.

[00:08:08] And then the second or third movie or sequel that they get, a man takes over.

[00:08:13] Yep. Every time.

[00:08:15] You know, and like if I was, for example, J.K.

[00:08:18] Rowling, she could have pushed Warner Brothers to say, you know what?

[00:08:22] I want at least one of the directors of the Harry Potter movies to be a woman.

[00:08:27] Yep. But we know she's trash.

[00:08:29] But yes, I think one of the movies that this movie was up against

[00:08:33] in the box office was a Bruce Willis movie and it beat it.

[00:08:37] It's not a diehard movie.

[00:08:39] It's like stand tall.

[00:08:40] Last man standing.

[00:08:42] There you go.

[00:08:43] Has some do it standing up.

[00:08:46] And there is nothing like as much as they're like, oh,

[00:08:49] it begins with a bunch of real movies.

[00:08:50] No, it was not.

[00:08:52] It was last man standing came in second.

[00:08:56] That was the first week for that.

[00:08:58] Then it was fly away home.

[00:09:01] Maximum risk, which I don't even know about.

[00:09:04] Never heard of it.

[00:09:05] Then is bulletproof with Adam Sandler and Damon Wainz.

[00:09:09] West Club grossed 105.4 million in the United States and Canada

[00:09:13] and 76 million in other territories for the total of 181.4 million dollars

[00:09:20] worldwide and it became the 11th highest grossing film of 1996.

[00:09:25] Oh, low Raj, low Raj.

[00:09:29] You know, sometimes we're on the same wavelength and sometimes you just be talking crazy.

[00:09:34] Your Ebert, writing for the Chicago Sometimes gave the first wise club

[00:09:41] two out of four stars.

[00:09:44] He declared the film heavy on incident but light on plot

[00:09:48] filled with heartfelt talks with slapstick and sitcom situations.

[00:09:55] Roger Marie Ebert.

[00:09:58] What were you thinking before we get into cast and crew?

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[00:11:23] So casting, Danielle.

[00:11:25] Ben Midler and Goldie Hahn were the first actresses reported to have landed

[00:11:30] one of the three starring roles, but Ben Midler had wanted to play

[00:11:33] the more glamorous role of Leece at first.

[00:11:38] OK, I'm not surprised by that.

[00:11:39] No, and I will say this movie top to bottom, aside from Mr.

[00:11:44] Camden, perfectly cast.

[00:11:47] Yes, like agreed.

[00:11:49] I don't think this movie would have had as much heart and levity

[00:11:54] if these three women had not been cast in these roles.

[00:11:58] It could have fallen really flat or felt very like whiny,

[00:12:03] you know, or that were pandering to the divorcee audience.

[00:12:09] But these women breathe such life into all of these characters.

[00:12:15] Yeah. That it was just fantastic.

[00:12:18] And they didn't take themselves too seriously.

[00:12:20] I think they're all comedic actresses because Scott Rudin,

[00:12:25] who is a legendary producer, he produced his film.

[00:12:29] And so he had intended to cast Jessica Ling for the role of

[00:12:34] Elise, I believe.

[00:12:35] And they decided to actually rewrite the character from the book.

[00:12:39] So if you know anything about the book, the movie is not that

[00:12:44] close to the book at all.

[00:12:46] They changed a lot.

[00:12:47] They almost call this movie script kind of like a Frankenstein situation.

[00:12:51] It was a lot of different pieces.

[00:12:54] They had different writers come in.

[00:12:56] They had some ghost writers come in to try to put it together.

[00:13:00] But I love down some Jessica Ling, OK?

[00:13:04] I do.

[00:13:05] But and I think she can be comedic.

[00:13:07] I see it watching American Horror Story.

[00:13:10] She has those zingers and there's nothing I don't think she could do.

[00:13:13] But Goldie Hawn just fit this role so much better.

[00:13:19] And she Goldie Hawn wanted to bring on Sally Fields.

[00:13:22] And I think Sally Field would have done great, too, in the role of Annie.

[00:13:26] But honestly, I don't.

[00:13:29] Either one could have gone for me because we've learned that she could

[00:13:33] play comedic comedic roles pretty well.

[00:13:36] But I think Diane Keaton was perfectly matched as well.

[00:13:39] Sally pulled out because she said she lacked musicality,

[00:13:43] which I think is kind of weird because they only have that one scene at the end.

[00:13:49] And they didn't have that scripted.

[00:13:52] It wasn't planned until the last minute because they were like, we don't have an ending.

[00:13:57] Oh, I did not know that.

[00:13:59] But also like Diane Keaton.

[00:14:03] Not a great singer, but that added to.

[00:14:08] The scenes is that like, I mean, she can carry a tune,

[00:14:13] but it's not she's standing next to fucking Bed Middler.

[00:14:16] Like you're not going to be bad.

[00:14:18] I to this day, even when I was younger, I remember thinking

[00:14:23] because you could tell that they were lip singing, which is totally normal for a movie.

[00:14:28] But as a kid, I was like.

[00:14:31] Putting two and two together.

[00:14:32] I just always thought, yeah, Bed Middler saying I never thought Goldie Hawn

[00:14:37] or Diane Keaton sang their parts.

[00:14:40] But apparently they didn't.

[00:14:44] So it wasn't it wasn't it fit the characters.

[00:14:48] Like that's what you expect in a group of three friends,

[00:14:51] not everyone is going to be a singer.

[00:14:54] I wish.

[00:14:57] I wish that Mandy Patinkin was cast as Aaron as originally intended.

[00:15:03] Unfortunately, he had to drop out and then was replaced by Mr. Camden.

[00:15:09] Yeah, I think I would have had a hard time hating Mandy Patinkin.

[00:15:13] That's true.

[00:15:15] He's a great actor.

[00:15:16] He probably would have brought me there.

[00:15:17] But rewatching this and seeing that pedo.

[00:15:21] It was very easy to hate him.

[00:15:23] Oh, yeah.

[00:15:24] Like immediately, I'm like, no, go away.

[00:15:26] Trash, that's why your hair is running away from your face.

[00:15:33] On site.

[00:15:36] On site.

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[00:15:44] episode.

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[00:15:49] of Danielle on site.

[00:15:53] The role of Dwardo originally went to writer David Rakoff through.

[00:15:58] But he was fired after only one day on set and was replaced by Brunson.

[00:16:03] And show pinch hot.

[00:16:04] I think he's so underrated.

[00:16:06] I love him so much.

[00:16:08] He's so good.

[00:16:10] Yeah.

[00:16:12] We were huge, perfect strangers.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:16] Fans.

[00:16:17] So like anytime we see her like it's bulky.

[00:16:20] Okay.

[00:16:21] I'm really disappointed that we didn't get John Stewart to play

[00:16:27] Elise's lover.

[00:16:28] Apparently he shot most of his scenes, but they needed to trim the fat.

[00:16:34] And so unfortunately he was cut out of the movie.

[00:16:38] I just love John Stewart so much.

[00:16:40] Yeah, it would have been cool to see Elise have a little love interest.

[00:16:44] But I also think it's kind of great.

[00:16:46] One of the my favorite things about this movie is that when people talk

[00:16:51] about it, sometimes I think people say romcom and it goes back to like

[00:16:56] when it's female centered, they don't know what else to call it

[00:16:58] besides a chick flick and a romcom.

[00:17:01] I love that it doesn't center around any of them dating per se.

[00:17:07] I know at the end we get Bette Midler's character.

[00:17:11] They say that her and Morty are getting back together, but it's really

[00:17:15] about their the core of their friendship and getting their vengeance.

[00:17:18] And I really like that.

[00:17:19] And I feel like the John Stewart like relationship, it would have been nice.

[00:17:24] Maybe he was doing the opposite of her ex-husband, but it would have,

[00:17:29] I don't know, I don't think it's that bad.

[00:17:31] But the director said John Stewart did a really good job.

[00:17:34] I want the John Stewart cut.

[00:17:37] Yeah, like the Snyder cut.

[00:17:39] I want the Stewart cut immediately.

[00:17:42] Give us the Stewart cut.

[00:17:44] Yes.

[00:17:46] Dan Hadea, he won who plays Morty.

[00:17:49] He won the role over Hector Elizondo.

[00:17:53] I love Hector Elizondo, but I think Dan Hadea

[00:17:58] was perfectly cast.

[00:17:59] He has that just tiny bit of like could be

[00:18:04] Schmarmy slime.

[00:18:05] Yeah.

[00:18:06] Yeah, where Hector is just is so endearing and I just love him.

[00:18:10] He's wonderful.

[00:18:12] Our boy, our boy Timothy.

[00:18:15] Here he is.

[00:18:15] He came off.

[00:18:17] I. All right.

[00:18:18] So Timothy Elephant, this is his movie debut.

[00:18:23] They were able to get him to come on because he impressed them

[00:18:26] with his local stage work.

[00:18:28] So he played Brett Artonin.

[00:18:32] I don't even know how to say this.

[00:18:33] I didn't even know the guy had a last name, but he plays the director

[00:18:38] for the movie that Elise is trying to get into.

[00:18:40] And he looks so fresh faced and baby, baby faced.

[00:18:44] You want to talk about that cameos?

[00:18:47] I was very proud of myself that I was able to spot some of these people

[00:18:50] because we were younger when this movie came out.

[00:18:54] And a lot of these people are like old heads, you know.

[00:18:59] It's kind of like for us, we're watching certain movies.

[00:19:01] We know who these people are, but like my sister's like,

[00:19:03] I don't know who these people are when I was trying to get her

[00:19:06] to watch Spice World.

[00:19:07] She's like, I don't get it.

[00:19:08] So yeah, so a ton of cameos.

[00:19:12] We get Ivana Trump, who in the movie famously stated,

[00:19:17] don't get mad, get everything.

[00:19:20] We have Gloria Steinem,

[00:19:23] Kathy Lee Gifford, author Olivia Goldsmith,

[00:19:26] director Hugh Wilson as the commercial director

[00:19:29] and Heather Locklear as the younger lover of James Notton's character.

[00:19:33] Gil. So yep.

[00:19:36] Clocked all of those.

[00:19:38] Well, maybe I didn't talk to the director or the author,

[00:19:41] but everyone else that like celebrity.

[00:19:44] I was like, oh, yep.

[00:19:45] There she is. There she is.

[00:19:48] So the line, don't get mad, get everything was the marketing department

[00:19:52] had decided that was going to be the tagline for the poster and for the movie.

[00:19:55] And so the director is like, let's make sure we add it to

[00:20:00] the script and head of on a say it, which it's the most one

[00:20:03] of the most iconic lines, even though there's so many lines that.

[00:20:07] So I. Brenda.

[00:20:14] It's like it just lives in my head all the time.

[00:20:18] Just like, well, there's a line that Brenda says where she's like,

[00:20:22] they're talking about Goldie Hans character, Elise, her plastic surgery.

[00:20:27] And she's like, did you get the whole enchilada,

[00:20:29] which originally was going to be, did you get the whole Ivana?

[00:20:33] But once Ivana came out, they changed it to the whole enchilada.

[00:20:38] Oh my God. Here's my question to you.

[00:20:41] OK. Who do you think

[00:20:44] out of the stars on the set was considered difficult to work with?

[00:20:50] I know the answer to this.

[00:20:52] It was. So should we jump right into the movie?

[00:20:57] Yes, let's do it.

[00:20:59] Oh, jump in is probably not.

[00:21:02] Oh, damn it.

[00:21:04] Sorry, Cynthia.

[00:21:07] So yes, the amazing, lovely stalker chanting.

[00:21:12] Please, Cynthia.

[00:21:13] It starts out as a flashback.

[00:21:15] The four of them, Cynthia, Annie, Elise and Brenda all graduated together

[00:21:21] in 1969. They graduated from college.

[00:21:24] Cynthia seemed like she was very affluent even back then.

[00:21:29] So she gave all of the girls a strand of pearls for their graduate

[00:21:32] as a graduation gift.

[00:21:34] I feel like they're all pretty affluent.

[00:21:37] Yeah.

[00:21:39] It's crazy how much money is really going on in this movie.

[00:21:42] Started like just put in there.

[00:21:44] But you know how when we talk about diversity and stuff like that

[00:21:48] in some of the other movies, there are some movies where I'm just like,

[00:21:51] that's fine. I don't I don't need it

[00:21:55] because this is a movie that let the white ladies do what the white ladies do best.

[00:22:01] That's the kind of feel I have for this movie.

[00:22:03] I'm not complaining about diversity.

[00:22:06] It's a very specific subset of like

[00:22:10] Upper East Side ladies,

[00:22:13] like we know of the ladies that they are depicting in this movie.

[00:22:20] I'll give you this.

[00:22:22] They are the grown up college versions

[00:22:25] of the girls from All I Want to Do.

[00:22:27] Yes.

[00:22:29] That's definitely

[00:22:32] very they always have those like feminist word roots,

[00:22:37] but then they let men dull their shine.

[00:22:41] Pretty much.

[00:22:43] Here we get that kind of flashback.

[00:22:46] Then it goes to present day.

[00:22:48] We see Stockard Channing as the grown up Cynthia,

[00:22:53] and she's just very distraught, very miserable.

[00:22:56] She has newspapers all around reporting on her ex-husband,

[00:23:01] who is like a tycoon baron remarrying this young hot girl

[00:23:06] played by Heather Locklear.

[00:23:08] She has her pearls that she gives to the maid

[00:23:12] and then asks the maid to also mail some letters made from coolest.

[00:23:18] Not the Mexican. Right.

[00:23:21] So Cynthia does commit suicide by jumping out of her penthouse.

[00:23:27] The next scene we are the next scenes we get

[00:23:30] are kind of introducing the other women.

[00:23:33] So that happens.

[00:23:34] We don't know much about Cynthia other than that.

[00:23:37] And then we're introduced to grown up Annie.

[00:23:39] She has a daughter named Chris, who she's very close with,

[00:23:42] who comes out as a lesbian.

[00:23:44] We find out she is separated from her husband, Erin,

[00:23:48] but they're still like hanging out and Chris is pissed.

[00:23:53] Yeah, she she loves her dad,

[00:23:55] but she hates the way her dad treats her mom.

[00:23:58] And also there she lives with her

[00:24:01] their grandmother is there, her mother

[00:24:04] grandmother is there, very opinionated.

[00:24:07] And it's really interesting, especially watching it now

[00:24:11] from the perspective of we understand so much more about

[00:24:15] generational trauma, women, women's expectations in the home

[00:24:20] and how are those those are imposed on Annie by her mom?

[00:24:27] Like, I know like her mom is very well intentioned, loves her daughter.

[00:24:30] But she's also like it'll work out because like she's just from that era

[00:24:35] where you don't get divorced, like you just work shit out, even if you're miserable,

[00:24:40] like you just stick with it.

[00:24:42] I love the dynamic of the three of them

[00:24:46] because it reminds me so much of in different aspects, like obviously

[00:24:52] my mom is not a what's the word?

[00:24:58] A wallflower like Annie is.

[00:25:01] But I really thought the dynamic between

[00:25:04] the three generations was very interesting and how loving they were

[00:25:08] and how the grandma came around at the end.

[00:25:10] It was super sweet.

[00:25:12] So I definitely asked my mom about how she felt about these characters.

[00:25:16] Let's hear what she said.

[00:25:18] I thought.

[00:25:21] It showed you so many the generational divide

[00:25:27] between the three, the three women, you know,

[00:25:30] the daughter who was a little bit more, I guess, a little bit more like now.

[00:25:35] And then the grandma who's still living in the fifties

[00:25:39] where how men she wanted her daughter to make it work in terms of a marriage.

[00:25:46] And then there was her daughter who would be in pulled from.

[00:25:52] She's just, you know, so conflicted about what should I do?

[00:25:56] And, you know, should I try to make this work?

[00:25:59] And well, there wasn't even a question of should I make this work?

[00:26:03] It was just I have to make this work.

[00:26:05] And her mom was just, you know, kind of prodding her along to,

[00:26:09] yeah, yeah, come on, let's go, let's go.

[00:26:11] And then her daughter who saw very, very clearly that no, that is a.

[00:26:20] He's a douchebag.

[00:26:21] Yeah, user.

[00:26:23] I didn't want to say all of that.

[00:26:26] The user and she saw right through him.

[00:26:30] So in that way, yes, I saw how whatever time frame

[00:26:35] that they grew up in really impacted how they dealt with a partner or a marriage

[00:26:42] or their thoughts on it or what to do about it.

[00:26:47] I just thought their dynamic reminded me of you, me and Anna a lot.

[00:26:54] Like, Nana being very critical and me being like, no, this is the new way

[00:27:00] to do it and you being like, OK, I guess find a happy medium.

[00:27:05] What about you, Mama Terry?

[00:27:06] What did you think to?

[00:27:10] To think about my family dynamics with my mom and my kid.

[00:27:16] We didn't come from the previous generation, my mom's generation never said anything.

[00:27:22] Yeah, they were just quiet.

[00:27:24] They were just quiet.

[00:27:25] So you never got feedback.

[00:27:26] You never got.

[00:27:28] You know, what do you do?

[00:27:29] So I never talked to my mom about anything, you know, about

[00:27:36] when my marriage was hurting, I didn't go to her because she did not talk about things.

[00:27:43] So for our generationally, I made sure that my kids felt that they could talk

[00:27:49] to me about anything because we just I missed that.

[00:27:52] I missed having, you know, someone to confide confide in and who would have my back.

[00:27:57] Yeah.

[00:27:58] And I think both did a really good job with like the fact

[00:28:02] that Jackie and I feel like we can tell you anything.

[00:28:05] I think at this point, it's probably TMI to the highest.

[00:28:09] I don't mind them.

[00:28:15] But, you know, Danielle, you are kind of prudish about certain things, though.

[00:28:19] I mean, when it comes down to it, I, you know, I would still want you to,

[00:28:25] you know, say whatever it is that's on your mind, but you are not.

[00:28:31] She still doesn't do that, Jackie.

[00:28:34] Is like, Mom, no, we're not going to talk about that.

[00:28:38] Oh, yeah.

[00:28:38] I don't want to talk about like communication is hard.

[00:28:47] It really is.

[00:28:48] And you have to work at it to be.

[00:28:51] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:53] I will keep that in my mother.

[00:28:55] I will try my hardest, but be careful what you ask for.

[00:29:00] I'm not a prude.

[00:29:01] No, I'm a prude.

[00:29:03] Okay.

[00:29:06] Christine, have you found as you get older that some things that you would have

[00:29:10] tolerated as you were younger?

[00:29:12] You're like, oh, what is happening with me?

[00:29:17] And I was like fine with that when I was younger, but you do you get you just

[00:29:22] change, you change as you age and your wisdom helps you out on.

[00:29:27] You're kind of what is happening over there?

[00:29:29] You you also care less about what other people think.

[00:29:33] Yeah.

[00:29:35] When you're younger, you worry about that or at least I did all.

[00:29:38] Yeah.

[00:29:40] I don't know if I ever really did.

[00:29:43] But, you know, in terms of with Danielle, I I I expected her to kind of

[00:29:50] come to me and say, I don't know if I would have freaked out or anything.

[00:29:55] I mean, there were other things that I freaked out about.

[00:29:57] But things I don't think I would have if she trusted me enough to to tell me,

[00:30:04] you know, I would probably do a long lecture, but which they don't like.

[00:30:10] No, I I I think I don't know for whatever reasons.

[00:30:13] I I I was that kind of her.

[00:30:18] She didn't think that I was.

[00:30:19] She was always afraid to come to me and say, but I was past that already.

[00:30:24] I was like, come on already.

[00:30:26] You know, she's like, yeah.

[00:30:27] My little friend and I thought it would be OK.

[00:30:32] I wanted her to do that.

[00:30:35] Well, I'm working on it.

[00:30:45] I think I I think I you know, I I ask some of my other friends and they're

[00:30:50] like, you tell your mom and your grandma way too much stuff.

[00:30:54] I mean, I tell you my bowel movements at this point and it's just like,

[00:31:00] is it necessary?

[00:31:01] I don't know. But if you don't have someone to tell that to,

[00:31:07] who are you going to tell it to but your mom? That's true.

[00:31:10] Somebody needs to care.

[00:31:12] Yeah. I just don't know if I'm ever going to get to the point

[00:31:18] where I'm going to be telling her about sex.

[00:31:24] OK, I'm comfortable with you don't have.

[00:31:29] I mean, Jackie and I don't even talk about sex.

[00:31:32] No, no, we don't talk about.

[00:31:33] But I do know, mom, if like something really weird happened or like I'm scared

[00:31:38] about something, yes, I would definitely tell you like 100 percent.

[00:31:42] And she'd be on the duress.

[00:31:44] Yes.

[00:31:49] This took a turn.

[00:31:54] The next scene is we're introduced to Elise and she's an aging actress.

[00:31:59] She's incredibly famous, but she wants to be youthful.

[00:32:03] She's starting to get the mom roles and things like that, which I'm

[00:32:07] surprised she hasn't already because in Hollywood, you start getting

[00:32:11] the mom roles at like 30.

[00:32:13] Yes.

[00:32:15] Swan's collagen filler in her lips.

[00:32:17] Her doctor is like, I don't think so.

[00:32:19] The doctor is played by Rob Reiner, who is love it.

[00:32:22] Fantastic director in his own right.

[00:32:25] So I'm sure it was just like one of these ladies called and was like, hey,

[00:32:29] Rob, do you want like this little bit part in this movie?

[00:32:33] Well, it's probably Scott Rudin because he knows everybody apparently.

[00:32:38] But in this scene, there's created Goldie Han simulated college

[00:32:42] and treatment by injecting her lips with a harmless saline solution.

[00:32:46] Though temporary, Han later remarked in interviews that the experience

[00:32:51] was quite painful and that it had discouraged her from ever getting collagen for real.

[00:32:57] I wonder if she's kept that sentiment.

[00:33:00] So you're telling me.

[00:33:03] We have seen movies in this time frame with fantastic makeup.

[00:33:11] Teens and practical effects.

[00:33:13] You injected saline into an actress's lips to simulate collagen injections.

[00:33:22] Like that could have been done with makeup.

[00:33:26] Agreed.

[00:33:27] That just thinking about it, I start visualizing it and it feels I feel

[00:33:32] pain about it. Yeah.

[00:33:33] It just yeah, it was unnecessary.

[00:33:35] I'm sure they could have put a prosthetic and it would have been fine

[00:33:39] if they could do what they did from misdoubt fire.

[00:33:41] What could we get?

[00:33:46] I guess this is ironic.

[00:33:48] The author Olivia Goldsmith.

[00:33:50] She wrote this book and the whole idea of this movie essentially was that

[00:33:57] all the societal pressure that are put on middle age women to stay looking

[00:34:01] young and beautiful and the result that some of them undergo like

[00:34:05] really bad cosmetic surgeries like we're seeing with Elise here

[00:34:09] and what ended up happening to Olivia is that she died in 2004 at the age of 54

[00:34:15] due to complications from anesthesia during an elective cosmetic surgery procedure,

[00:34:21] which that's looking horrible.

[00:34:24] Really scary.

[00:34:25] Don't mess with your face.

[00:34:26] Although like I feel like because in this movie they mentioned that

[00:34:30] they're like 46 ish.

[00:34:32] The ladies are playing younger than they actually were because they were all

[00:34:37] born within 45 days of one another and they all celebrated their 50th birthday

[00:34:41] is while they were shooting this movie.

[00:34:43] I love that.

[00:34:44] I do too.

[00:34:46] And I love that, you know, like, yes, they said that Miller was difficult,

[00:34:50] but I love that they didn't have it seemed to have any onset issues

[00:34:56] with each other.

[00:34:57] So could have just been she was opinionated and we already know

[00:35:01] in Hollywood what that means from an interview snippet.

[00:35:06] I read one of I don't know if it was the cast member, a cast member or crew.

[00:35:11] It was bulky.

[00:35:13] Was it?

[00:35:14] Yeah, he went on AVM.

[00:35:16] He defended the director and said that.

[00:35:18] But Miller was very kind.

[00:35:21] Yes.

[00:35:22] Also, I saw one where Joan Rivers lived in the neighborhood that they were

[00:35:27] shooting and she went up to the director and was like, what are you doing

[00:35:30] in here? Why are you in my neighborhood?

[00:35:32] Kind of like joking.

[00:35:33] And she was like, OK, well, if you're the director of this movie,

[00:35:35] why are you sitting in the car hiding in the car with the teamsters?

[00:35:39] Whatever he's like, I'm afraid of Beth Medler.

[00:35:44] I mean, I could see it.

[00:35:49] I can see where I feel like I don't want to be on any side of that right now.

[00:35:55] I'm going to go just sit somewhere.

[00:35:58] Yeah.

[00:36:00] So next we meet Brenda, played by Beth Medler.

[00:36:03] She is prepping for her son, Jason's Bar Mitzvah.

[00:36:08] She is divorced from Morty, who owns like an appliance store

[00:36:14] that started as like a homegrown mom and pop shop and has grown into this

[00:36:21] multimillion dollar company.

[00:36:23] And she was there at the ground level like she helped build that company

[00:36:27] with him and essentially he traded her in for a newer model

[00:36:32] played by Sarah Jessica Parker.

[00:36:33] Every woman handles divorce differently, especially when it comes to kids.

[00:36:38] And she is still hurting over the loss of Morty

[00:36:44] and also Morty cheated on her with one of the like store clerks

[00:36:48] or somebody that worked at the store.

[00:36:50] And so I think that even hurts 10 times more

[00:36:53] and they have like a contentious relationship.

[00:36:56] And it's all driven because she still loves him.

[00:36:58] She never wanted this divorce.

[00:37:01] Exactly.

[00:37:01] And so she's she's just coping with the fact that like

[00:37:06] she's not young and hot anymore.

[00:37:08] And so that's where his his attention turned.

[00:37:12] And she's always kind of putting her son in the middle,

[00:37:15] asking him kind of questions about their dad.

[00:37:17] And he you could tell like he just doesn't want drama.

[00:37:20] He he's going to grow up with a ton of anxiety.

[00:37:23] 100 100 percent.

[00:37:24] Yeah, I I always commend my mom for not not doing that to me.

[00:37:31] Never never asking questions like she was curious

[00:37:35] as to what was happening with like my dad and my stepmom.

[00:37:40] She just kept it kept it a buck.

[00:37:42] She would complain about my dad cheating.

[00:37:45] I'm not going to lie.

[00:37:48] But she never made it like awkward for me to see my dad,

[00:37:53] which I always appreciated.

[00:37:55] And my mom did the same.

[00:37:57] She I mean, even after they had separated

[00:38:01] or and even after they had finally divorced,

[00:38:05] he came over every night for dinner.

[00:38:07] Like he had an apartment across town,

[00:38:09] but he came over every night for dinner.

[00:38:12] I do commend that the both of them did prioritize their child.

[00:38:16] And I could say that for both of you guys,

[00:38:18] that you both really made sure that as much as you could

[00:38:22] that we had relationships with their dad, no matter how mad

[00:38:27] or messed up they were, you guys really made sure

[00:38:31] that they were in our lives.

[00:38:33] And, you know, in tandem, I got to have a like a bonus dad

[00:38:38] because Ron was around all the time

[00:38:41] because Terry was making sure that her kids saw their kid,

[00:38:46] their son, their dad. Yeah.

[00:38:50] Son, father, brother, cousin.

[00:38:55] Now we are at Cynthia's funeral.

[00:38:59] We're introduced to Maggie Smith's character.

[00:39:03] Gwynnola. Oh, yeah.

[00:39:06] The wig, the wig on Miss Maggie,

[00:39:10] Miss Dame, Dame Maggie Smith

[00:39:14] is a side to.

[00:39:18] Behold, honey says.

[00:39:21] He goes, hey, it's McGonagall.

[00:39:24] And he's like, he she's looked the same since the 90s.

[00:39:28] And then he turns to me because Maggie Smith is a vampire.

[00:39:35] Like probably not.

[00:39:38] Yeah, we love her.

[00:39:39] Super weird kids.

[00:39:40] Like when you look at the ages of these people,

[00:39:44] like I don't even think she was that old when this movie came out.

[00:39:47] No, she's just always looked the same.

[00:39:50] Yeah, it's weird.

[00:39:52] But OK, love that she's in it.

[00:39:54] Love how deadpan.

[00:39:56] Unserious she is this movie.

[00:39:58] She is like the queen of divorces because what has she been divorced

[00:40:03] like five times three times?

[00:40:04] And so she's richer than God at the same time.

[00:40:08] So they needed they see we see her at the funeral first

[00:40:11] and she comes into play later.

[00:40:13] Yep, and then we're also introduced to the bell.

[00:40:19] It does.

[00:40:20] Duarte played by Bronson Pinchot, Pinchot.

[00:40:25] Who who Brenda works for essentially.

[00:40:29] Yes, he's an interior designer.

[00:40:31] Yeah, exactly.

[00:40:32] Yep. That's how the three ladies kind of reconnect is

[00:40:37] they see each other at the funeral and they're like,

[00:40:39] we had no idea that she was like this destroy and why would she do this

[00:40:44] and kind of just reeling from the fact that their friend just killed herself.

[00:40:48] So they all decide to go to lunch together.

[00:40:51] And so at first they're very standoffish.

[00:40:55] Yeah, but they start drinking, drink, start flowing

[00:40:59] and convo starts happening.

[00:41:01] I love when they ask Elise what she's had done.

[00:41:05] And Elise tries to say nothing with her like pillow lips,

[00:41:09] freshly collagenated lips and Bridget just looks like she's a quilt.

[00:41:17] There's a there's a few elements that show each other's personalities, right?

[00:41:21] When they first reconnect after the funeral is over.

[00:41:25] First you have Annie who.

[00:41:28] Is like all over the place, spastic, very spastic, normal

[00:41:32] Diane Keaton energy.

[00:41:33] So it's not random.

[00:41:36] Yeah, also when she she she wants to ask if they can go to lunch

[00:41:40] and it takes her forever to get there because she's so passive aggressive.

[00:41:44] Essentially, Brenda, of course, being just no filter queen that she is

[00:41:51] screams that we got to eat.

[00:41:53] So, you know, spit it out already.

[00:41:55] But Brenda and Elise are like just spit it out.

[00:41:58] And I do love that.

[00:42:00] Elise is such a she was very Mariah Carey about it where she's like

[00:42:06] pretending she doesn't know Brenda's fucking name.

[00:42:08] Yeah, she's like because Brenda's like hello.

[00:42:12] And Annie's like, do you remember us?

[00:42:14] And she's like, I don't know her.

[00:42:19] I was like, come on, Elise, stop with your bullshit.

[00:42:22] Yeah. And then when they get to lunch, like you were saying,

[00:42:24] they're not talking to each other, but I think they're all trying to front.

[00:42:29] And this scene makes me think like, wow, we don't have Facebook in this time period.

[00:42:36] So people really don't know what's going on in each other's lives.

[00:42:40] Maybe more Elise than everyone else because she's famous.

[00:42:44] So they're all trying to pretend and you don't you don't have text

[00:42:49] messaging like you would have to pick up a phone and call someone.

[00:42:53] There's no email really.

[00:42:55] Like we hadn't entered into the age of accessibility.

[00:43:01] Yeah. So yeah.

[00:43:02] Oh, let's jump back to the funeral.

[00:43:04] I forgot a couple of things.

[00:43:06] This is where we're introduced to Heather Lockley or as the second wife.

[00:43:10] And like he's trying to give the benefit of the doubt because they're

[00:43:13] like, how dare he bring her to Cynthia's funeral?

[00:43:17] Blah, blah, blah.

[00:43:18] And he's like, oh, you don't know.

[00:43:20] Like he made like she may be here to comfort him.

[00:43:23] He may be really upset, blah, blah, blah.

[00:43:25] No, he's straight up rubbing this lady's nipple at his ex wife's funeral.

[00:43:31] So nasty.

[00:43:33] These men.

[00:43:34] So gross.

[00:43:35] So gross.

[00:43:38] OK, now back to lunch.

[00:43:40] Brendan and Annie are wearing their pearls.

[00:43:42] I know Elise was not.

[00:43:44] Elise wasn't wearing any.

[00:43:46] No, she wasn't wearing the pearls.

[00:43:48] Yeah. She does say.

[00:43:49] Oh, you guys are wearing those pearls.

[00:43:51] Like she like she don't know where they are.

[00:43:54] We find out both Brenda is divorced and Morty has a new girlfriend, Shelley.

[00:44:01] Annie is separated and Elise is currently going through a divorce.

[00:44:07] So they're all essentially.

[00:44:08] A husband. Yeah.

[00:44:09] Played by Victor Garber.

[00:44:11] Yeah. I love Victor Garber.

[00:44:13] Not in this role.

[00:44:14] I still love him in this role.

[00:44:16] He does play douche very well, like in Legally Blonde.

[00:44:19] Yes. So then they start talking about Shelley,

[00:44:22] played by Sarah Jessica Parker as Morty's new girlfriend.

[00:44:26] Annie and Aaron have been together 25 years.

[00:44:29] They're now separated.

[00:44:32] And they're going to counseling.

[00:44:34] Yes.

[00:44:36] And their therapist is played by Marcia Gay Hardin.

[00:44:39] And she's like written books and all of this stuff.

[00:44:44] So she's like a renowned therapist that they're going to.

[00:44:49] During the course of the conversation,

[00:44:52] at one point, Elise is like, I wish I could just let it all go like you, Annie.

[00:44:58] Like,

[00:45:00] for Annie.

[00:45:02] She doesn't dress doubt.

[00:45:04] I would say Brenda dresses the most dowdy out of all of them.

[00:45:09] Annie just dresses

[00:45:12] like Hampton's casual is how I would describe her outfit.

[00:45:19] I don't know. She wears a lot.

[00:45:22] A lot of blazers and stuff like Annie looks like she's going to work,

[00:45:26] but she ain't got no job. Yeah.

[00:45:29] Any you ain't got no job.

[00:45:31] She gets one later.

[00:45:33] She does. But and then she puts on a power suit, which I really love.

[00:45:37] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:45:39] You know what?

[00:45:40] Annie's style in this movie is just I am keen.

[00:45:43] Yes. 100 percent.

[00:45:46] Yeah. And I love that for her.

[00:45:48] So find out that Elise's husband wants half of all of the assets and alimony.

[00:45:53] So this is a scene where they're sitting in a conference room with their lawyers.

[00:45:58] And she's like, what the fuck?

[00:45:59] Like I.

[00:46:01] You were no one.

[00:46:03] Now you're this super famous producer, probably making his own money

[00:46:07] and getting residuals off of her shit.

[00:46:09] And now you still want half of my shit.

[00:46:12] Like he has no like

[00:46:17] he doesn't care. Yeah.

[00:46:18] And the thing is, is like his lawyer, make sure to say anything they acquired

[00:46:24] together is either you you pay me for or we sell off and we keep the we split the proceeds.

[00:46:34] I wanted to ask our moms what they thought about

[00:46:39] the behavior of all the men once we're introduced to them.

[00:46:44] So let's hear what the moms have to say.

[00:46:46] What did you guys think about the husbands in this movie?

[00:46:49] We'll start with you, Mamatari.

[00:46:52] They all.

[00:46:55] Took advantage of their wives.

[00:46:56] They all took advantage.

[00:46:59] Of the fact that.

[00:47:03] They were involved in making the money, you know,

[00:47:07] that Miller's character worked the stores and Goldie Han did the movies

[00:47:11] and Diane Keaton kept the house.

[00:47:13] And then when they were ready to go to something else, it was like too bad for you.

[00:47:17] Yeah, they were all horrible.

[00:47:19] They were all horrible men.

[00:47:20] They weren't.

[00:47:22] They really were.

[00:47:23] Yeah, they were horrible.

[00:47:25] They obviously were not in the marriage for the marriage

[00:47:29] because they didn't care.

[00:47:30] They didn't care.

[00:47:31] And I think that's also a generational thing, too.

[00:47:33] At that time, when you looked at when you got married,

[00:47:36] it was like my only job as a husband is to make the money.

[00:47:40] And I think we're seeing that shift.

[00:47:42] A lot of the conversations that are happening right now is that women,

[00:47:46] because they can make their own money, they can be independent.

[00:47:49] They're asking a lot more of men.

[00:47:51] And so there's definitely a shift.

[00:47:53] So going back and watching some of those movies

[00:47:55] and seeing how these men were just like, it's totally fine about what we're doing

[00:48:00] is is insane.

[00:48:01] Like, what's the problem?

[00:48:03] Right. This is fine.

[00:48:04] Well, and it's even like when we were growing up,

[00:48:08] dad only had to get himself ready.

[00:48:10] You were packing the car, getting the kids ready.

[00:48:13] He just waited till everyone was in the car

[00:48:15] and then was in the bathroom for 45 minutes while we're sitting in the car.

[00:48:21] Oh, man, forget the vacation he booked

[00:48:24] where he booked a different hotel every night.

[00:48:27] What I was packing up

[00:48:31] four people, three of them children every day to go to a new hotel

[00:48:35] because he wanted to and he was not patient.

[00:48:37] So he'd be like, come on, we're ready to go.

[00:48:39] You ready? You ready? You ready?

[00:48:41] No, I have three kids and myself to take care of.

[00:48:43] Yeah. You have one you.

[00:48:45] Yeah. The one thing that he always said is

[00:48:48] I've never changed since the day we got married.

[00:48:51] And I would say that's the problem

[00:48:54] because you're a father now.

[00:48:56] You're a husband now.

[00:48:57] There's so many things that happen to you in 25 years.

[00:49:00] You should have changed.

[00:49:01] Yeah. And I don't think a lot of men change.

[00:49:04] They just don't.

[00:49:06] They don't think they need to change to adapt to.

[00:49:08] They don't understand.

[00:49:10] Yeah, they don't understand.

[00:49:11] They don't understand that it takes two people.

[00:49:14] You know, I mean, I find women to be like superheroes

[00:49:19] because of all the things that they had to do, you know,

[00:49:22] the children picking up and dropping off

[00:49:25] and and dropping off to all of the activities.

[00:49:28] And and, you know, if he's late working,

[00:49:32] it's not a priority to say, well, listen, I can't stay late today.

[00:49:35] I have to, you know, I have to meet with my kids teacher.

[00:49:38] And women are awesome because of all of the things

[00:49:42] the multitasking that a woman is capable of doing, not.

[00:49:46] That's it. It was just the capabilities.

[00:49:48] There's like so wide and varied and we can't do it.

[00:49:52] Yes, yeah, I do it because there is no choice.

[00:49:55] Yeah, there is no.

[00:49:57] And those men at movie there, they were just

[00:50:01] I didn't really like how they flunted the woman

[00:50:04] the the sidebar, the women who came along and and they were

[00:50:09] side and they were and they were skinny and glamorous

[00:50:12] and they can bail out.

[00:50:14] I want this. I want that.

[00:50:15] There was never anything about, well, you know,

[00:50:18] we have to kind of stick with our budget.

[00:50:20] It was OK to put the budget with a wife, but not with

[00:50:24] the side chick, as Danielle said.

[00:50:27] The disrespect was was just in your face.

[00:50:29] And I didn't like that.

[00:50:30] It was full on disrespect.

[00:50:32] That was the perfect word, Christine.

[00:50:33] Do we meet Morty next?

[00:50:36] Who do we meet next?

[00:50:38] Yes, so they're out shopping because

[00:50:41] Brenda needs a dress for the bar mitzvah.

[00:50:44] And so they go to this store and there's like this little

[00:50:49] like short, very form fitting dress in the window.

[00:50:54] And Brenda makes an offhanded comment about it.

[00:50:57] And then they walk inside Morty's there with Shelly.

[00:51:01] Shelly comes out wearing that dress

[00:51:03] and I I hate.

[00:51:06] I hate the weight shaming on both ends.

[00:51:09] I hate that.

[00:51:10] Brenda says, what?

[00:51:12] You can't buy her whole dress.

[00:51:14] You can't buy her a whole dress.

[00:51:16] But then Shelly immediately responds back with like some fat

[00:51:20] shaming comment and Brenda's not like Brenda is just a lady.

[00:51:24] Like she's not even heavy.

[00:51:27] And regardless, you just don't comment about people's weight

[00:51:30] like ever.

[00:51:32] Well, I think it's a projection because

[00:51:36] it is something that Brenda is insecure about within herself.

[00:51:40] And Shelly knows it.

[00:51:42] And so it's like a back and forth with these two very insecure people

[00:51:47] because essentially it's alluded that Shelly had a full on makeover herself.

[00:51:52] And maybe she was a little bit young, naïve and dowdy.

[00:51:55] And she uses Morty's money to, you know, upgrade herself.

[00:52:00] It's that whole thought you're not ugly.

[00:52:01] You're just poor.

[00:52:03] Yes, because in a future scene where she's having lunch with Maggie Smith,

[00:52:08] you can tell she's not refined at all.

[00:52:12] Like you fix the outside girl, but you got to work on the inside.

[00:52:16] Yeah.

[00:52:17] I in this scene, so they're at the store, like you said,

[00:52:21] and Duarte is with Brenda.

[00:52:24] Hope I said that name right.

[00:52:26] Duarte. Duarte.

[00:52:27] Sorry.

[00:52:28] He when he sees Brenda spot Morty,

[00:52:34] he's begging her not to go over there.

[00:52:37] But then when she does, he's hiding.

[00:52:40] And I've always questioned the fact that when he comes to decorate

[00:52:47] the house, why Morty never said, well, that's who my ex-wife works for.

[00:52:53] I don't think I think this is sus.

[00:52:55] Like why isn't he never meet Duarte ever?

[00:53:00] I didn't.

[00:53:01] I've never even pondered that.

[00:53:05] So I was like, OK, maybe that's why he didn't notice because he's hiding in this scene.

[00:53:09] I can understand if they got a divorce so he doesn't really know

[00:53:12] who his wife works for or whatever.

[00:53:14] And she does say that like they don't really interact with each other.

[00:53:18] They kind of talk through Jason essentially.

[00:53:20] But yeah, that was always one of my questions.

[00:53:23] Like how are you hiring the person your ex-wife works for?

[00:53:26] You didn't you didn't know that?

[00:53:29] OK, yeah.

[00:53:30] Now we're sitting with the director played by Timothy Oliphant

[00:53:35] and he he approaches her with this project.

[00:53:38] She's super excited because I think work has slowed down for her.

[00:53:42] And then she finds out it's for the role of the mother.

[00:53:46] Right, because she when she was at the lunch with the girls,

[00:53:49] she was boasting about this new play or movie.

[00:53:54] Sorry, this new movie that was coming out and that there's this really cool role

[00:53:59] of Monique, right? Yes.

[00:54:01] And so she thinks she's talking to the director about the role of Monique.

[00:54:06] And then he starts going, I'm thinking for the makeup, it's just like grotesque.

[00:54:10] And she's like confused because she's like, Monique is the lead.

[00:54:14] Why would you know?

[00:54:15] And she doesn't say it out loud, but he's like for the mother role.

[00:54:18] And you could tell she is just holding on by a thread to keep it together.

[00:54:23] So after that meeting, we see her just get absolutely trashed at a bar

[00:54:29] and going on and on about how she's going to he wants her to play the mother.

[00:54:34] And it's just the poor bartender.

[00:54:36] Yeah, he's very supportive.

[00:54:38] He is. And then eventually he's just like, I'm going to get you some coffee.

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[00:55:13] Annie is at home.

[00:55:15] She's cooking with her mom.

[00:55:17] They're figuring out dinner and she gets a phone call from Aaron and he's like,

[00:55:22] I want to take you out to dinner.

[00:55:23] Can you meet me at the hotel that I've been staying?

[00:55:26] So she's all excited.

[00:55:28] She gets all dressed up.

[00:55:29] They go out have a lovely dinner, go back up to his room.

[00:55:33] They bone.

[00:55:35] And then he tells her he loves her.

[00:55:38] She says I love you back.

[00:55:40] And then he's like, by the way, I want a divorce.

[00:55:43] Be a mount of just gaslighting from this man.

[00:55:52] And like love bombing.

[00:55:54] And I'm like, what is your end goal, sir?

[00:55:57] The way he does this is so cool.

[00:56:00] He's like, well, I was thinking it was a goodbye.

[00:56:02] A goodbye is when both people know that we're leaving.

[00:56:06] Like, let me have you've taken my choice away from me.

[00:56:11] It's so disgusting.

[00:56:13] And so he's telling Annie he wants a divorce and in the middle of it,

[00:56:17] could you imagine?

[00:56:18] Because we do have a scene where Annie does go to her therapist again

[00:56:22] played by Marsha Gay Hardin.

[00:56:24] And when she hits her with that foam bath,

[00:56:29] she should have won an Oscar.

[00:56:31] So the therapist's goal is to try to get Annie to stop

[00:56:36] being a people pleaser and to start tapping into her emotions.

[00:56:41] What her husband or ex-husband, soon to be ex-husband, Aaron likes to do.

[00:56:47] He likes to.

[00:56:50] Pretend that he's the victim in this situation.

[00:56:53] He likes to project that that Annie is a manipulator.

[00:56:57] And it's like the crazy one.

[00:56:59] Right. When Annie is having actual normal reactions to this

[00:57:03] and not even a normal enough.

[00:57:06] But in the span of this whole situation,

[00:57:09] Annie is just after they have sex, she's like, Oh, Dr.

[00:57:13] So-and-so would be so happy and proud of us because we.

[00:57:16] So she's thinking they're getting back together.

[00:57:17] She's telling him to bring his stuff back to the house

[00:57:19] and he's ready to like I'm out.

[00:57:22] And in the midst of all of this,

[00:57:25] their therapist walks at the door because the bitch has a key.

[00:57:30] And then they've been born.

[00:57:32] Right. So unethical.

[00:57:34] Let me tell you.

[00:57:36] When I would have rolled out my revenge plot,

[00:57:39] I would have definitely sent something to

[00:57:43] the whoever runs the board of the therapy board of New York.

[00:57:48] Yes, bitch needs her license revoked.

[00:57:51] You're not supposed you're sleeping with clients, bitch.

[00:57:55] And you've written books and stuff.

[00:57:57] I can bring down your entire fucking career.

[00:58:00] Yes, it's insane, insane.

[00:58:03] And on top of it, she's trying to tell Aaron.

[00:58:06] Oh, did you tell her yet?

[00:58:08] No. And then based on her reaction,

[00:58:12] do you think I've told her about you?

[00:58:15] And then Aaron's like, you're manipulating me.

[00:58:18] And then she's like, oh, the therapist is like, Aaron,

[00:58:22] her feelings are valid.

[00:58:24] Bitch, don't even, don't even.

[00:58:28] I will end you.

[00:58:33] I would pay to see you in that.

[00:58:38] Not that I want you to ever go through that situation.

[00:58:41] Jackie, I would never.

[00:58:42] I would never.

[00:58:43] I would never.

[00:58:44] I would never.

[00:58:46] I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

[00:58:47] First of all, I've never let it escalate.

[00:58:49] No. Far. There's no way.

[00:58:51] Well, and we know we know what gaslighting looks like.

[00:58:55] We know what victim

[00:58:57] like playing the victim looks like now.

[00:58:59] We can call that shit out, but like.

[00:59:05] I did it. I hated it.

[00:59:07] I know one thing that the reaction

[00:59:10] that you would think I would do is like yell and scream.

[00:59:15] I am a cancer through and through.

[00:59:17] OK. And I am for the long haul

[00:59:21] in the sense that you fuck me over like that.

[00:59:25] If you're not, you would be like

[00:59:28] if I was to just yell at you.

[00:59:31] And lose my shit.

[00:59:32] Oh, no. Oh, no.

[00:59:34] I am going to have a well executed plan

[00:59:38] to make sure that you will never forget.

[00:59:42] What you did to me.

[00:59:44] Yeah, as long as you live.

[00:59:46] Never forget for better or for worse.

[00:59:49] Bitch, it's for worse for the rest of your fucking life.

[00:59:52] The bar is in hell.

[00:59:56] That's one thing I could say if you and I

[00:59:59] have ever had beef in life, people in the world.

[01:00:04] And you were able to just like the worst thing that happened was

[01:00:07] that we're just not friends anymore.

[01:00:09] We're just not talking anymore.

[01:00:10] You got off lucky.

[01:00:12] I'll tell you that.

[01:00:14] Because you don't want me thinking you don't want me plotting.

[01:00:18] You don't want sometimes it's just not even worth it.

[01:00:20] But if it's worth it, I feel so sorry for you.

[01:00:25] And that's all I'm going to say.

[01:00:28] I am not one to be tugged with.

[01:00:33] And you know what?

[01:00:34] I'm sure if we asked my mom the question,

[01:00:36] you would say something maniacal.

[01:00:41] That's that's also the worst part.

[01:00:43] I can plot something by myself.

[01:00:46] Don't let Christine jump on this bandwagon.

[01:00:51] Shit me.

[01:00:52] She's rowing this boat too.

[01:00:54] At this point, they all received their letters

[01:00:56] that Cynthia had mailed out.

[01:00:59] The letters just reflect how sad Cynthia is that they didn't keep

[01:01:03] in touch and how she misses her friends and that she wishes

[01:01:08] that she had attributes of each one of them.

[01:01:11] So just a really touching letter, but also very sad

[01:01:15] that she was in this very lonely place

[01:01:18] and didn't feel like she could reach out to them.

[01:01:22] I mean, I know this movie is a comedy

[01:01:24] and it's all about revenge.

[01:01:27] But I think the biggest thing that you could pull from it

[01:01:30] is how important female friendships are.

[01:01:34] I think that now there are studies that come out about it.

[01:01:38] Say if you have really strong friendships, you live longer,

[01:01:40] you live happier lives.

[01:01:43] And I think that so many people get lost in marriages and kids

[01:01:48] and they don't prioritize their friendships.

[01:01:51] It's important even for men.

[01:01:53] Men having their friendships and their things.

[01:01:57] I think it's a Western thought process that

[01:02:01] significant others are the only relationships to have, essentially.

[01:02:07] While if you look at other societies, it's about community in general.

[01:02:11] And I could not exist without my female friendships.

[01:02:18] I just couldn't.

[01:02:19] I think about all the different groups of girlfriends that I have

[01:02:22] and how they just rally, like no matter what happens.

[01:02:26] I have really amazing guy friends.

[01:02:29] I'm not saying that I don't.

[01:02:31] But my female friendships feel my cup.

[01:02:34] They make me feel whole again.

[01:02:39] They lift me up when I'm having dark times and vice versa.

[01:02:44] And so I love that this is a theme in this movie

[01:02:48] that even after years of not talking to each other,

[01:02:50] they were able to come together and help each other.

[01:02:52] And that switch happens after they have that big blow up fight.

[01:02:58] Like in the beginning, them trying to come together was about revenge

[01:03:02] and it was very surface.

[01:03:04] And I think it comes back full circle that's why they change their

[01:03:08] motives of what they're doing this for.

[01:03:10] Right.

[01:03:11] I completely agree.

[01:03:13] And it's just having that sounding board someone.

[01:03:16] And there are toxic friendships as well.

[01:03:19] And just really working on identifying those friends that are your

[01:03:24] writer dies, they're going to be your mirror.

[01:03:26] They're going to support you.

[01:03:28] They're going to uplift you, but they're also going to be honest with you

[01:03:32] in hard times and really help you out, make really thoughtful

[01:03:39] suggestions about it and always checking in like, do you need to vent

[01:03:44] or do you need solutions, things like that and just really weeding

[01:03:49] out the people that don't serve you.

[01:03:52] I may tell a joke, but I won't tell a lie.

[01:03:57] And that's not always an easy thing with me.

[01:04:01] Like I'll sugarcoat it sometimes.

[01:04:04] You know, I don't think my approach is always like hurtful.

[01:04:09] Yeah.

[01:04:10] And it could be blunt, but sometimes it's like, if you have

[01:04:14] a bunch of people around you that are just going to be like telling

[01:04:16] you the good fluffy things, sometimes you've got to have real shit being said.

[01:04:22] You know, like this is not working.

[01:04:24] I see that things aren't working out here.

[01:04:29] I mean, we've had in some of my groups like checking in like,

[01:04:35] Hey, have you found a therapist yet?

[01:04:37] Have you asked them about like just checking in like, we see that you're struggling.

[01:04:41] Yeah.

[01:04:42] You know that you're struggling.

[01:04:43] Like we're going to keep you, hold you accountable for this because we know in

[01:04:47] the long run it's going to be better for you.

[01:04:50] You know, like those are the type of friends you need is like, we're always

[01:04:54] going to be here for you, but we also know that we can always do things

[01:04:59] to better ourselves.

[01:05:02] Yeah, it's just a blessing.

[01:05:03] It's a blessing to have female friendships.

[01:05:06] It's a blessing to have sisters.

[01:05:07] You know, some people their first and last friend is their sister.

[01:05:11] And so if you have it, your cousins, your friends, make sure that your

[01:05:15] fostering those relationships.

[01:05:16] Don't take them for granted.

[01:05:18] Make sure you're checking in because it is, it's literally for your help.

[01:05:24] If anything.

[01:05:25] So I don't back out this movie.

[01:05:27] You'll just buy a compound and you all just live in your houses with your

[01:05:31] pets and you all just live together happily ever after.

[01:05:35] Sheila and I are planning our golden girl years as we see it.

[01:05:42] We always joke that we're just going to all put put all the husbands in a

[01:05:48] house together and then we'll all have a house together.

[01:05:51] And so we can just visit them as needed.

[01:05:56] We don't want to get rid of them, but it does seem like a really better,

[01:06:01] a much better plan if you just live with all your girlfriends long term.

[01:06:05] Yeah, 100 percent.

[01:06:07] At first they call it revenge.

[01:06:09] And then they're like, no, it's justice.

[01:06:11] It's not just about revenge.

[01:06:14] Justice for all of the things that these men have put us through and all

[01:06:18] the sacrifices we've made for these relationships all to be to go to

[01:06:24] shit on the whims of these men.

[01:06:27] Yeah, they they come back together and they're like, you know what?

[01:06:32] Let's let's get these suckers and they're figuring out different ways.

[01:06:36] So they're trying to find dirt on Morty.

[01:06:39] And his business because to find out from her uncle Carmine, what do you feel

[01:06:44] like Uncle Carmine is probably like a mob boss?

[01:06:48] And so he just has a hand in everything.

[01:06:50] Okay.

[01:06:51] Well, he's Brenda's dad's brother.

[01:06:56] So he finds she finds out that Morty when he first started his business,

[01:07:03] like there was some issues and so a good amount of product for

[01:07:07] his store came from, you know, falling off the truck.

[01:07:11] And so Brenda never knew this.

[01:07:13] And this was because of when they first got married, I think they were

[01:07:15] just in a place of the dad and uncle decided to like help him out,

[01:07:20] which means that his business started off with some illegal shit.

[01:07:24] So they're trying to find.

[01:07:25] So her goal is to try to find proof of what happened.

[01:07:30] Then with the divorce with Elise, she decides because they're supposed

[01:07:35] to split their split everything 5050.

[01:07:39] She comes into his office unannounced and just has all these movers

[01:07:44] start taking all his shit from his office and he's losing it.

[01:07:47] They also get his Lamborghini later.

[01:07:49] And I love one of Elise's on the she's on the treadmill and she's walking

[01:07:55] and she's like, the Lamborghini.

[01:08:00] And they're just checking things off of the whiteboard that's in there.

[01:08:05] That whiteboard was epic.

[01:08:07] Like who the fuck made that?

[01:08:10] It was like a whole calendar year on a giant like wall.

[01:08:15] It just went across.

[01:08:17] Yeah. And there was different colors for the different men.

[01:08:20] So they were they were it was it was very interesting.

[01:08:25] So I love when like

[01:08:28] they take Bill's desk and he's like back off, Jacko.

[01:08:34] Johnny was like, I'm going to be saying that to you from now.

[01:08:39] At first he's like, this is my office.

[01:08:41] Like why are you taking my stuff?

[01:08:42] She's like, you said everything we acquired together

[01:08:46] and all of this because he wants all of her the gifts he's ever given her back.

[01:08:52] So she's like most of this stuff was gifts I've given you.

[01:08:55] So that goes into the pot as well.

[01:08:57] Like Elise knows her shit.

[01:09:01] She is and she's given him a hard time.

[01:09:03] I do love that we are introduced to Jesse Spann.

[01:09:08] Yes, Elizabeth Berkeley.

[01:09:10] So we meet her and we find out that she has the role of Monique.

[01:09:15] And because when she meets her and runs up to her,

[01:09:18] she's like, you're going to be playing my mother and she's like, what the fuck?

[01:09:22] So we find out Bill is with her.

[01:09:28] And she's very young.

[01:09:29] Well, we find out later how young she is.

[01:09:31] But she looks very young.

[01:09:34] And then we move on over to Morty.

[01:09:36] They kidnap him like full on kidnap him.

[01:09:41] And I love how Uncle Carmine is so fucking right or die.

[01:09:46] You know, he's like Morty is trash.

[01:09:48] You want me to take him out?

[01:09:50] And Brenda's like, no, no, no, we're just going to scare him.

[01:09:53] So they pull him into a meat butcher shop.

[01:09:58] Like the there's meat.

[01:10:00] Yeah.

[01:10:02] Is this this happens later?

[01:10:04] Because what?

[01:10:05] And they set up the meeting with Camilla.

[01:10:09] Is that her name or Cornelia?

[01:10:10] I don't know. Maggie, Dave Maggie Smith.

[01:10:13] They have onella.

[01:10:15] They have her play in to this whole thing because they need her

[01:10:19] to recommend Dwardo as an interior designer.

[01:10:23] So they get access into their apartment, Marty and Shelley's apartment.

[01:10:28] And so that's like what you were saying.

[01:10:31] We see that she's so uncultured, she doesn't know anything.

[01:10:34] And it's very easy to like throw the wool over her eyes.

[01:10:38] And so her Gwinnala.

[01:10:41] I love when Gwinnala is like take her fork because the way

[01:10:46] she is eating that salad is fucking ridiculous.

[01:10:51] So Dwardo comes and but he says like he needs space in the house.

[01:10:55] And so they go out.

[01:10:57] He kicks them out essentially and he gets the girls in.

[01:11:00] But of course, when Brenda sees this place, she is pissed because

[01:11:05] she's constantly having to beg Morty for money and all sorts of stuff

[01:11:10] just to like pay the rent for where her son and her live.

[01:11:13] Like it's awful.

[01:11:15] And so now she sees this apartment

[01:11:17] because he's always saying he doesn't have money,

[01:11:18] but he's buying Shelley all of these things.

[01:11:21] And she literally has carte blanche to his bank account.

[01:11:25] Yeah, it's he's he's trash all the way.

[01:11:28] And they find some documents, but they don't really find everything.

[01:11:32] And this is when you get the infamous window washing scene because

[01:11:37] like they're going to die.

[01:11:38] And I love that Maggie Smith is in the car watching all this shit.

[01:11:41] She's like, oh, God, there it is.

[01:11:45] So good.

[01:11:46] The physical comedy in this scene

[01:11:50] and the way first when Morty and Shelley arrive back home before

[01:11:57] they're done searching his office, the way Annie panics.

[01:12:03] And she's she throws the documents in like her clothes.

[01:12:08] She is so out of control.

[01:12:13] And then they like they're trying to get out

[01:12:17] and they finally get on the washer elevator thing.

[01:12:21] Yeah. And then like it seems like there's no

[01:12:27] governor on how fast it can be let down, which seems dangerous.

[01:12:32] Yes.

[01:12:33] It's that they like lie down and Annie like doesn't even want to get on it.

[01:12:38] They're like forcing her on it.

[01:12:41] And I love how Elise is like, look, I can do it.

[01:12:45] I do all my own stunts.

[01:12:47] And she's like, does one of them say you want to do it again or something?

[01:12:53] Yeah. At the end when Brenda, Brenda reaches the ground, she's like,

[01:12:57] do you want to do it again?

[01:12:59] And he's like, give me the fuck off for this thing.

[01:13:03] I do also love that the staircase in that apartment doesn't have any railings.

[01:13:08] Let me tell you the way my anxiety I could never I could barely make it

[01:13:14] on the little steps I have here.

[01:13:16] There I would fall.

[01:13:18] I'd be good. Oh, and in the window washing scene, they like go down

[01:13:23] and they stop at this other apartment and it's to a couple in bed.

[01:13:28] And the lady is like, is that Elise Elliott?

[01:13:32] And then they're like yelling, you look great.

[01:13:34] And she just goes, oh, there he is.

[01:13:36] And then they serve.

[01:13:38] I'm so good.

[01:13:40] And did you recognize who that lady was in bed?

[01:13:43] I don't remember. Who was it?

[01:13:46] It was Ellis Gray from Grey's Anatomy.

[01:13:49] That's right. I saw her.

[01:13:52] I saw her picture in the castles.

[01:13:55] I was confused because I had before I saw that like I started

[01:13:59] doing the notes, I saw John Stewart and I saw her and I was like,

[01:14:02] where the hell was where is she?

[01:14:05] Oh my God, yes.

[01:14:07] Yeah, spotted.

[01:14:09] They also figure out because they're like, we want to start this

[01:14:13] first wives club for one, Elise needs a place to store all her shit.

[01:14:17] And number two, we need a place where we can kind of like meet together.

[01:14:21] And at least it's just like, oh, yeah, by the way, I own this building.

[01:14:26] Right. You didn't think about that before.

[01:14:28] And first of all, how much are you that you own a building

[01:14:31] and you haven't you don't have to do anything with it?

[01:14:33] Like you don't have ten in New York.

[01:14:35] Right. Yeah.

[01:14:38] So yeah, she has that building.

[01:14:40] And so there the whole goal is to take all the assets

[01:14:46] that she's taken from Bill and sell it at Christie's

[01:14:51] and then give the money to Annie.

[01:14:55] No, Annie buys all of the assets for a dollar from her.

[01:15:00] Yeah. And then Annie's the one who does the auction at Christie's.

[01:15:05] Right. So that she can have enough money to buy Aaron's

[01:15:10] partners out of his ad agency.

[01:15:14] What's she essentially, I think she like helped start.

[01:15:17] Yeah. And she finds out that his partners went out

[01:15:21] because her daughter, Chris agrees to go and intern

[01:15:26] at the advertising agency to get recon for Annie and the ladies.

[01:15:32] And all I think the biggest thing that all these men did

[01:15:37] was underestimate their their wives.

[01:15:39] Yep. The scene in which Annie,

[01:15:42] I know probably bouncing from where we are, but when she goes in

[01:15:46] and Aaron comes into the office and sees that Annie's there sitting with his

[01:15:51] partners and their faces, the partners faces as they're it's like,

[01:15:58] this is some good tea, but.

[01:16:01] I'm a I'm a head out.

[01:16:04] Things are getting real real scary around here.

[01:16:08] And so Aaron starts pleading, he starts getting angry like he you could see him

[01:16:12] literally go from each stage of manipulation and.

[01:16:17] Yep. Because at first he's like, I'll take my all of my all of my accounts

[01:16:22] with me, you'll be left with nothing.

[01:16:24] I'll just go start another firm, blah, blah, blah.

[01:16:26] And she's like, oh, by the way, I just secured a $45 million

[01:16:31] ad contract.

[01:16:33] This is how rich people do business.

[01:16:37] I know that they're just like we're doing revenge, essentially.

[01:16:41] But this is how it works.

[01:16:43] I know a friend we're going to partner in this.

[01:16:45] We're going to make money here.

[01:16:46] So like the money just comes in a circle, essentially,

[01:16:50] because the big client that Annie has now is going to be Morty's business.

[01:16:55] Yeah.

[01:16:57] It's it's epic.

[01:16:59] And if Elise doesn't need more movies, I'm sure she could work with the studios

[01:17:02] to say, I think this ad agency could do the advertising marketing.

[01:17:06] Yeah.

[01:17:07] It's it's.

[01:17:09] It's just.

[01:17:10] Jeff's kiss.

[01:17:11] So while they're kind of redo reliving the window washing event,

[01:17:18] scaffolding stunt, they're at Elise's building.

[01:17:22] It is it does need a lot of work, but they're having like a little picnic

[01:17:27] and they're drinking wine and eating and just reminiscing.

[01:17:31] And so they did talk about how they they did like this girl group

[01:17:35] for Cynthia's 21st birthday.

[01:17:38] And this is when we kind of get like a very shortened rendition of you don't

[01:17:42] own me and Annie is very stage shy.

[01:17:45] She's like, I don't want to sing by myself.

[01:17:47] You guys have to sing with me mean girls.

[01:17:50] They're like, yeah, sure.

[01:17:51] And so they start out that way and then they stop singing when Annie gets

[01:17:55] like really into it.

[01:17:57] Not really nice.

[01:17:59] Actually, I would be out of this friend group.

[01:18:04] If I were any, I wouldn't be in this friend group.

[01:18:07] These women are not nice to themselves.

[01:18:12] Women who aren't nice to themselves are most likely not going to be nice to you.

[01:18:16] Yeah.

[01:18:18] So I'm glad that they like turn things around towards the end.

[01:18:21] I'm glad that Annie gets more of a backbone, but you could tell

[01:18:25] that these two start getting up on her.

[01:18:28] So in this moment, they do that joke.

[01:18:30] It's a joke, whatever.

[01:18:31] But when they do have their falling out at this is a house.

[01:18:35] This is when they're like going through her house and they're

[01:18:38] seeing like her golden globes or after whatever that they have.

[01:18:42] I love that the Golden Globe that that they pick up the talkie

[01:18:47] that Brenda picks up is actually Goldie Hans real Golden

[01:18:52] or was it an Oscar?

[01:18:55] It was an Oscar first and then they get the Golden Globe.

[01:18:59] The Golden Globe is what they throw.

[01:19:01] Right.

[01:19:02] So the funny thing is in this scene.

[01:19:06] I never put two and two together.

[01:19:08] And Jennifer Lawrence was like dragged for this.

[01:19:11] But in her acceptance speech after winning the Golden Globe

[01:19:14] for Best Actress in a Musical or Comedy for Civil

[01:19:16] Lightning's Playbook in 2012, she says, Oh, what does it say?

[01:19:20] It says I beat Meryl in reference to the line of this movie.

[01:19:23] But everybody like trashed her and said that pearls.

[01:19:29] Yeah.

[01:19:29] And said it was an insensitive comment because it just so happened

[01:19:33] she was up against Meryl Streep.

[01:19:36] And I'm like, oh man, I'm really mad as a 90s girl

[01:19:39] that I missed that reference.

[01:19:41] And we should apologize to Jennifer Lawrence for giving her

[01:19:44] shit for that.

[01:19:44] I didn't think anything of it.

[01:19:46] I thought it was funny, but a lot of people thought it was mean.

[01:19:49] So in this scene, they start arguing because Elise is frustrated

[01:19:54] that she's not finding anything on Bill.

[01:19:57] And she's like, you're going to have Morty, Morty nailed to the wall.

[01:20:01] Erin is going to, you know, be in big trouble.

[01:20:04] And so she just starts feeling sorry for herself

[01:20:07] and she's just having a hard time.

[01:20:09] She also mentions that she got an offer for this like Broadway.

[01:20:15] Not a Broadway, but like a theater role.

[01:20:18] And Annie's like, you should do it.

[01:20:20] And she's like, no, this is for a step down.

[01:20:24] Yeah.

[01:20:26] This is the time that they do really fall out

[01:20:28] and everyone is calling each other out on their shit.

[01:20:32] So Annie's trying to be the pacifist, tried to be the peacemaker

[01:20:36] and the both Elise and Brenda are like going at each other's throats.

[01:20:40] Brenda is calling out the fact that Elise is a full on alcoholic.

[01:20:45] She even pulls up a garbage bag with and you hear all of the bottles.

[01:20:48] It's pretty bad.

[01:20:49] Like that's a lot of bottles.

[01:20:52] And then Elise calls out Brenda for, you know, her behavior,

[01:20:58] like kind of holding a torch for Morty and all that stuff

[01:21:03] and not really having her own life situation.

[01:21:06] They they pit Annie against one another and tell her she has to choose

[01:21:09] which one she wants to be friends with at some point.

[01:21:13] And that's when Annie kind of loses it, like she, her anger finally comes through.

[01:21:20] It comes through because they make her choose, try to make her choose

[01:21:23] when she doesn't shoot, then they both start going after her back and forth.

[01:21:27] Yeah.

[01:21:28] And I'm just like, y'all are some bitches for real.

[01:21:32] Yeah.

[01:21:33] I love how Annie says you both have severe psychological problems.

[01:21:39] And then they all started slapping one another too.

[01:21:42] There ain't no way.

[01:21:44] Ain't no way.

[01:21:46] No, but before this scene, we get the scene at Christie's.

[01:21:52] And so Duarte and Grinnella are with Shelly.

[01:21:56] They're supposed to be buying things to decorate her house house with Morty.

[01:22:02] And they just keep like running up her tab that buys like this chase

[01:22:07] that she doesn't really want.

[01:22:08] And then there's this Japanese plate, a singular plate, and it's going for like

[01:22:15] $160,000 and she's like, Morty is going to be upset, blah, blah, blah.

[01:22:21] Brenda's in the back in disguise running up the tab.

[01:22:26] You have a lease that's sitting there and bidding on stuff to influence Shelly

[01:22:30] to buy it because Shelly looks up to Elise Elliott.

[01:22:33] And then you have Annie in the backkeeping track of how much money

[01:22:38] they're they're like essentially siphoning from Morty.

[01:22:41] She also purchases Bill Lambo and gives it to Morty as a gift.

[01:22:46] And Morty's like, you're spending all this fucking money.

[01:22:50] And she's like, I bought the Lambo as a gift for you.

[01:22:53] And he's like with my money like that.

[01:22:55] I bought me a gift.

[01:22:57] And then all she has to do is start taking off her clothes and seducing him.

[01:23:01] And he shuts up.

[01:23:02] I it's just so fucking easy.

[01:23:05] It's ridiculous.

[01:23:06] Elise goes over to Brenda's and.

[01:23:10] Says like, she she doesn't want to be like Cynthia.

[01:23:13] She doesn't want to live this lonely existence without friends.

[01:23:17] I like how she walks into Brenda's house and says something like,

[01:23:23] oh, this is real.

[01:23:25] Like it's like an actual like normal house.

[01:23:30] Like and then this is when they kind of come back together and.

[01:23:36] Forming that deeper bond and saying, like this is bigger than us.

[01:23:40] We can't let this happen to other women.

[01:23:43] We need to do something about it.

[01:23:45] We need to think globally.

[01:23:47] So Elise which drinking she's like, hey, you know what?

[01:23:51] We don't have to actually have dirt on Bill.

[01:23:54] We could just imply that we have dirt on Bill.

[01:23:57] So this is where it gets muddy, like did she.

[01:24:01] She takes the yearbook.

[01:24:04] So Elise takes Phoebe to lunch and they start talking.

[01:24:08] And that's when it's she finds out from that lunch

[01:24:13] all about Phoebe's situation and how old she really is.

[01:24:16] And then she digs up like the yearbook and stuff.

[01:24:21] Yeah. So. OK.

[01:24:23] Because like she did say we just need Bill to think

[01:24:26] like he's done something wrong. Right.

[01:24:28] But then she does actually find. Yes.

[01:24:31] That's where I was confused.

[01:24:32] OK. And this is also when she finds out that Phoebe was cast as Monique.

[01:24:37] Yeah. And that she be playing her mom.

[01:24:40] Well, I also like at the end of this this scene where they're at lunch

[01:24:43] where Phoebe's like, oh, you're not Satan.

[01:24:49] Damn, Bill.

[01:24:51] Well, could you imagine Jenny McCarthy,

[01:24:54] Walberg turn that she would have been Phoebe?

[01:24:56] Could you see her as Phoebe instead?

[01:24:59] I could.

[01:25:00] I she turned on the role and I'm wondering, bitch, why?

[01:25:03] What were you doing singled out like?

[01:25:07] Baseball like.

[01:25:10] This is top tier. Yeah.

[01:25:13] Jenny McCarthy.

[01:25:14] Why the hell did you say no to First Wise Club?

[01:25:18] She didn't know.

[01:25:18] Maybe she got the original script.

[01:25:21] Maybe because that was a mess.

[01:25:23] Yeah. And the feds show up at Morty's store or the the feds.

[01:25:29] Yeah, this is going to get kidnapped.

[01:25:33] Like we were saying.

[01:25:34] Yeah, Uncle Carmine and his team throw him

[01:25:38] throw a bag over his head and throw him in the trunk

[01:25:41] and they show up at the butchers shop and Brenda's like,

[01:25:45] I got all the shit on you.

[01:25:47] We've got letters.

[01:25:48] We've got your books like.

[01:25:51] Yeah, you're cooked.

[01:25:52] You're done.

[01:25:54] And she's like, you have two choices.

[01:25:56] You could either go to prison and lose everything

[01:26:01] or start giving me fucking money.

[01:26:04] Give me some money and I'm in control of everything.

[01:26:06] The marketing, the business like I'm in charge.

[01:26:10] Pretty much he's like, OK, I have no fucking choice.

[01:26:12] So after all of them invoke their revenge

[01:26:16] against their husbands and give them all cards,

[01:26:18] they have these cute little first wives club business cards made.

[01:26:22] And they're told to meet them the next day at a certain time.

[01:26:26] They get there. They're all I love how they're like sitting next to each other

[01:26:30] like they're in a waiting room. Yeah.

[01:26:32] And the daughter now works there.

[01:26:35] Love how she's just always like, hey, Daddy, even though she's like,

[01:26:39] I fucking hate you.

[01:26:42] And right before they go in, she's like, and by the way,

[01:26:45] I am a lesbian, a big one.

[01:26:47] And this really does tell for the time that

[01:26:52] how different times are like how that would have been like one of the worst

[01:26:56] things possible for.

[01:26:58] I mean, I know there's some people who are still ignorant

[01:27:01] that that would be the worst thing ever for their child.

[01:27:04] But at this time, it's crazy.

[01:27:06] Oh, and we also miss one of my favorite scenes,

[01:27:10] which is when they go to the lesbian bar

[01:27:14] and boo from Orange is the new black.

[01:27:16] Is that because Elise is a gay icon, of course.

[01:27:21] And they're like dancing and having a great time.

[01:27:25] And all of her fans are like dancing up on her.

[01:27:29] And she's just having a great time.

[01:27:30] And Brenda has to step in and say, like, let's go.

[01:27:33] And then one of the girls are like, she's with me.

[01:27:36] And she's like, no, she's with me.

[01:27:40] I love that scene so much.

[01:27:43] So so much fun.

[01:27:45] And Elise is just eating it up.

[01:27:50] Yeah.

[01:27:53] The husband's essentially you're going to start paying us.

[01:27:57] Right.

[01:27:57] And we're going to take your money and we're going to put it

[01:28:00] towards a more worthy cause that's bigger than us.

[01:28:04] Like revenge, if we just sought after revenge,

[01:28:07] we wouldn't be any better than y'all are.

[01:28:10] We're trying to make a difference.

[01:28:11] Right.

[01:28:12] There's a montage of like building renovations.

[01:28:16] Doing it for themselves.

[01:28:20] That was lovely.

[01:28:22] They meet with other like first wives, start consulting with them.

[01:28:26] Elise is in the play.

[01:28:27] They show up for her.

[01:28:29] It's like it's a huge success.

[01:28:31] So then we find out it's opening night for their efforts.

[01:28:36] And we find out it's the Cynthia Swan griffin crisis center for women.

[01:28:41] I feel like they should have taken the griffin off and just like

[01:28:45] given her, her made a name back since her ex husband was the one who kind of

[01:28:53] made her spiral anyway.

[01:28:55] Or the fact that his last name is on there.

[01:28:57] It's like always attached to him as a reminder that you're shit.

[01:29:01] That's true.

[01:29:02] But Kathy Gifford comes.

[01:29:06] It's like, gosh, this is so old.

[01:29:09] She comes and interviews them.

[01:29:10] And there's a scene in that scene when they're asked, she's like, is it true

[01:29:14] that the reason you started this, which calls it all your ex husbands were,

[01:29:18] you know, got younger, wise or whatever.

[01:29:20] And they're like, yeah, there's a scene that they cut because they were

[01:29:25] like, where's your husband, Kathy Griffords, husband, you know, very.

[01:29:32] Popular. Yeah.

[01:29:33] They're like, where's Frank?

[01:29:34] She's like, oh, he's at home watching Cody.

[01:29:37] And the last whip that Brenda says is that's what you think they took it out

[01:29:42] because literally, I think the next year, that's when his cheating scandal came out.

[01:29:50] Yeah.

[01:29:50] Whoops.

[01:29:52] As a child, I remember that shit rolling out on Regis and Kelly.

[01:29:56] And like, she was like, I'm gonna stand by my man.

[01:29:58] Oh yeah.

[01:29:59] Regis and Kathy.

[01:30:01] And like, that's my man.

[01:30:03] I'm gonna stick beside him.

[01:30:05] Just like Julie Chen Moonves.

[01:30:07] Ugh.

[01:30:08] Sad.

[01:30:09] All the husbands show up for the opening, but Morty drives up in Bill's Lamborghini.

[01:30:16] And Shelly is like, I'm not feeling special.

[01:30:18] Why are you going to your ex-wives thing?

[01:30:21] Blah, blah, blah.

[01:30:23] I'm not Brenda.

[01:30:24] And he like looks at her and he's like, no, you're not.

[01:30:28] Because all he asks is like, can you just come in for a little bit

[01:30:31] and then we can leave.

[01:30:32] And she can't even do that.

[01:30:34] And he realizes just like how self-centered she is.

[01:30:37] He goes in there and he sees Brenda and Brenda's day.

[01:30:41] Brenda is dancing with their son, Jason.

[01:30:43] Also when Jason had his bar mitzvah, he had brought Shelly and that was like a whole thing.

[01:30:49] And so now Jason's like, oh God, I don't want you guys to fight.

[01:30:53] But they're actually really nice to each other and Morty cuts in and starts dancing.

[01:30:58] And so we see reconciliation.

[01:31:00] Let me tell you, I rather sit on a hot hole of fucking fire than to take this man back.

[01:31:11] Especially because we forgot this part when Shelly is like trying to get in good

[01:31:17] after she spends all that money at Christie's.

[01:31:20] She's like, she says something about not being engaged and like the next scene

[01:31:27] we see with Jason and Brenda, Jason's telling him like, oh, dad got engaged to Shelly.

[01:31:34] So like you're now engaged to this woman that you left me for.

[01:31:39] And it's just going to take a dance in a little like the tiniest apology ever.

[01:31:46] And I'm going to swoon.

[01:31:48] I don't think so.

[01:31:49] There's no there's no way because despite like, OK, I get it.

[01:31:53] You guys both still love each other.

[01:31:55] Yeah, maybe he's having a midlife crisis.

[01:31:58] But he was he already showed you who he is.

[01:32:02] You as his wife, who helped him build his career that your family helped him build

[01:32:07] his career and when he divorced you, he gave you nothing that you're struggling.

[01:32:12] Yep.

[01:32:13] Right.

[01:32:13] And clearly he had enough to help me attain it.

[01:32:18] And just how mean he is to her without sticking up for her, putting Shelly

[01:32:25] in her place and saying, you know what?

[01:32:26] We're not together anymore.

[01:32:27] But that's some other my child do not speak to her like that in my presence.

[01:32:31] He does none of these things.

[01:32:34] You know, he cheats on her, which is also horrible.

[01:32:37] So like he's already showed you who he is as a person.

[01:32:43] So there's no fucking way.

[01:32:46] That's why I love when Annie was like, yeah, Erin asked for us to get back

[01:32:50] together and I told him go to fucking hell like in no way.

[01:32:54] And of course, Bill catches Shelly outside with his old Lamborghini.

[01:33:00] I know they deserve each other.

[01:33:03] Yes.

[01:33:04] 100% here with somebody.

[01:33:05] She's like, not really bitch.

[01:33:07] But he also he learns from his mistakes because he's like, how old are you?

[01:33:15] I would have been like, let me see that license.

[01:33:16] You don't hesitate.

[01:33:18] I'm going to need some papers to confirm that you are of age.

[01:33:23] Age of consent.

[01:33:25] So now that the event has ended, they're kind of closing up for the night.

[01:33:30] And they're all dressed.

[01:33:32] I was like, how did they freeze this dress code?

[01:33:36] Because it seems like almost all the women are in white and all the men are in gray.

[01:33:41] So it's not even like they were like, it's black tie because everyone.

[01:33:45] And I thought that was a really interesting thing to do.

[01:33:49] It's like kind of you don't even get like that stark contrast.

[01:33:54] You're gray to us.

[01:33:56] Like you fade into the background.

[01:33:59] So then we get the full, you don't own me dance routine.

[01:34:06] And that's how the movie ends is them dancing out of the space and into the street

[01:34:14] and they just dance off into the moonlight together.

[01:34:18] I love how like, I know this dance routine and I love how when Annie sings her or Diane

[01:34:24] Keaton essentially sings her part, she goes, I know that's going to be a jib.

[01:34:29] Tell me what to say.

[01:34:31] Like are you having a seizure or are you singing?

[01:34:35] That's what I'm like, Shelly, Sally Fields could have done it.

[01:34:39] Like she would.

[01:34:41] You just have to carry some sort of a tune.

[01:34:44] You don't have to be.

[01:34:46] Or be dubbed by someone else.

[01:34:48] It wouldn't be the first time.

[01:34:49] It's true.

[01:34:51] Well, that is First Wives Club.

[01:34:54] Let's hear from the moms on their like overall opinion about the movie and any

[01:35:00] other sprinklings of insight they have.

[01:35:06] Well, anything else that stood out for you guys for this about this movie?

[01:35:11] I liked, I like Diane Keaton's outfits.

[01:35:16] I like her stuff.

[01:35:17] I did.

[01:35:18] I liked how she put how she put together.

[01:35:22] I mean, Goldie Horn was a little bit different because she was more, you know,

[01:35:27] sexy and girly and she was fat.

[01:35:30] Yeah, she was fabulous.

[01:35:32] And then I just liked Diane Keaton.

[01:35:34] I think that goes back to Annie Hall, Arrow, which that movie and and she

[01:35:40] dressed, I liked her stuff.

[01:35:43] Yeah, it's about it.

[01:35:44] Yeah, I just think Diane Keaton was playing Diane Keaton like she does in a lot of

[01:35:48] movies. Yeah.

[01:35:51] That's true.

[01:35:52] What about you?

[01:35:54] I really enjoyed the end song.

[01:35:56] Yes. Yes.

[01:35:58] Yeah, that's a fun song.

[01:36:01] And their little dance.

[01:36:04] Jackie and Terry didn't bother you that all of their outfits weren't

[01:36:08] the same kind of white.

[01:36:09] My mom and I had this conversation last night.

[01:36:12] That one was like a winter white one had cream.

[01:36:15] Like, did it bother you?

[01:36:16] Did even think about it.

[01:36:17] Just a question.

[01:36:19] Ask my mind.

[01:36:20] Jackie.

[01:36:22] No.

[01:36:23] So mom, I am your daughter.

[01:36:25] More.

[01:36:26] It bothered you.

[01:36:27] It bothered me this time.

[01:36:29] I mean, I noticed it, but it didn't.

[01:36:31] I'm like, you know,

[01:36:32] it always bothered me about that movie.

[01:36:34] I love their outfits, but I'm like, wow.

[01:36:37] And you know what else it is if, OK, let's see.

[01:36:42] I say Elise was in winter white fully.

[01:36:44] And then Annie was in cream and then Brenda was in like off white.

[01:36:50] Fine.

[01:36:51] But Annie had a cream jacket with the off white outfit.

[01:36:57] And I'm just like, oh, did you?

[01:37:01] I do not notice that.

[01:37:02] I'm going to have to go back and look.

[01:37:04] You'll never not look at it again.

[01:37:06] I'll focus on that.

[01:37:09] Something to focus on.

[01:37:11] Yes.

[01:37:12] I have just a fun fact that I thought would be interesting.

[01:37:15] What would you guys have thought about Sally Field playing the role of

[01:37:19] Annie instead of Diane Keaton?

[01:37:21] Do you think it would have still worked or would you have preferred Diane Keaton?

[01:37:25] Oh, you just said Diane Keaton was playing Diane Keaton.

[01:37:29] Yeah.

[01:37:30] My opinion, Sally Field plays Sally Field in every movie.

[01:37:35] So it would have been the same.

[01:37:37] It would have been the same difference, right?

[01:37:39] Yeah.

[01:37:40] I think Diane Keaton was perfect for that role.

[01:37:45] She's kind of, you know, quirky and a wimpy, you know, wimpy.

[01:37:51] Because, you know, because her husband, he, ah,

[01:37:56] The pedo.

[01:37:57] He's been worst out of the three of them.

[01:38:00] He is the worst.

[01:38:02] Yeah.

[01:38:03] He was worse than what he did and how he conned her.

[01:38:07] You know, I didn't think that she responded besides screaming.

[01:38:14] I think that was enough.

[01:38:16] I would have killed him, you know, just for how he did.

[01:38:20] No, that was a total betrayal.

[01:38:22] I didn't like that.

[01:38:23] And I'm thinking,

[01:38:24] isn't there laws against therapists or was he not?

[01:38:27] Yes.

[01:38:28] I said this.

[01:38:29] She should have called the bar or whatever.

[01:38:31] Whatever association.

[01:38:32] Because not a lawyer.

[01:38:33] It's not a bar, but like there's a psychiatrist.

[01:38:35] Yeah.

[01:38:36] Yeah.

[01:38:37] An association.

[01:38:38] But I think there's rules about them having relationships with

[01:38:41] their parents.

[01:38:42] Patience.

[01:38:43] I really do.

[01:38:44] She could have gotten in trouble.

[01:38:45] I told Jackie, I would have ruined both their lives.

[01:38:48] Slowly and surely.

[01:38:49] But you know, I'm like, Marsha Gay Hardin.

[01:38:52] I do too.

[01:38:53] Yeah, me too.

[01:38:54] I like her.

[01:38:55] I think the rules were a little bit different.

[01:38:57] I think the rules were a little bit different.

[01:38:59] I like her.

[01:39:00] I think the rules were a little bit different back then, you know,

[01:39:04] as opposed to now where, I mean, I know that they're standards,

[01:39:09] but I do think how easily it was for them to get,

[01:39:15] you know,

[01:39:16] get all of the, what do you call it?

[01:39:20] The furniture and all the things they sold and everything that I'm

[01:39:24] like, wow, you know, I could have done that.

[01:39:28] I mean, that's too easy.

[01:39:31] I mean, that was very, very easy to do.

[01:39:34] Why couldn't I have done that?

[01:39:35] I could have sold everything and to my friends and yeah.

[01:39:40] So the movies made it look a lot easier.

[01:39:42] Yeah.

[01:39:43] And they're also extremely rich.

[01:39:45] I feel like rich people live by totally different rules.

[01:39:48] Yeah. Oh yeah.

[01:39:49] Yeah.

[01:39:50] They just called somebody and kind of taking care of it.

[01:39:53] I would have had the uncle like take care of all of them and just

[01:39:57] call it a day.

[01:39:58] None of this first West Club.

[01:39:59] Just take them out.

[01:40:00] Iced them.

[01:40:01] In y'all.

[01:40:02] Sorry mom.

[01:40:03] The script itself had an interesting Bernie.

[01:40:06] So it was, it originally belonged to Sherri Lansing who bought

[01:40:10] the unpublished manuscript of the novel in 91 after many

[01:40:14] publishers had rejected it.

[01:40:16] She handed it over to producer Scott Rudin when she became

[01:40:19] the CEO of Paramount Pictures in 92.

[01:40:22] She was quoted saying it was one of the single best ideas for a

[01:40:26] movie I had ever heard in a 1996 interview with the New York

[01:40:30] Times.

[01:40:31] The situation of a woman getting left for a younger version of

[01:40:34] herself was far too common, but we didn't want a movie about

[01:40:37] women as victims.

[01:40:38] We wanted a movie about empowerment.

[01:40:41] Scott Rudin then consulted Robert Harling to write the

[01:40:44] screenplay whose script was reworked by the director

[01:40:48] of the script was reworked by Paul Rudnick when Harding left to

[01:40:52] direct the evening star in 1996.

[01:40:55] I think it's very interesting that this movie about female

[01:41:01] empowerment and like taking power back.

[01:41:06] All of the screenplay writers seem to be men.

[01:41:11] But yeah, that I was, I'm not surprised at the time it's

[01:41:15] about women, but also I think they did a good job because

[01:41:20] there weren't anything.

[01:41:23] There was still a woman behind all this.

[01:41:25] So the great thing is that she was the CEO of Paramount.

[01:41:28] So I think she had a lot more to say about what was going on

[01:41:33] here.

[01:41:34] But also the fact that we also had a male director.

[01:41:39] Yeah.

[01:41:40] It was very male driven, which leads me to question like

[01:41:45] were there ghost writers who were women and they just were not

[01:41:49] credited with this movie?

[01:41:50] Probably a hundred percent.

[01:41:52] There were a lot of hands on this, on this script.

[01:41:55] So I wouldn't be surprised if other people had their hands in

[01:41:58] it.

[01:41:59] Well, if you, if you love this episode have questions for the

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[01:42:11] TikTok, Twitter, YouTube and threads.

[01:42:13] And let's get to our present day ratings.

[01:42:15] Start with you, Jackie.

[01:42:17] It's still a would buy.

[01:42:19] I enjoyed every moment of this movie and when Ken gets home,

[01:42:24] I'll probably rewatch it with him.

[01:42:26] Like it's so good.

[01:42:28] Same.

[01:42:29] A win is win.

[01:42:32] I love this movie a lot.

[01:42:35] It's one of my all time favorites.

[01:42:37] And it's probably because of the personal connection that I

[01:42:41] attach it with my mom.

[01:42:43] Speaking of the moms, let's ask them what their present day

[01:42:46] rating after making them rewatch it.

[01:42:48] All right.

[01:42:49] Now we're going to ask you guys now that you rewatch the

[01:42:52] movie, what your ratings today would be.

[01:42:54] So I'll start with, I'll start with you, mom.

[01:42:56] What would your rating be?

[01:42:58] I would do a five day rental.

[01:43:00] Okay.

[01:43:01] Because.

[01:43:02] I saw so many different things that I didn't pay attention to the

[01:43:06] first time.

[01:43:07] So yes, I'm going to go back and watch it again because I know

[01:43:12] there's just so many things.

[01:43:13] So I would buy it.

[01:43:17] But you don't have to because you can watch it.

[01:43:20] Yeah.

[01:43:21] But I would, I would still buy it if we couldn't watch it free.

[01:43:24] I would, I would definitely buy it.

[01:43:25] Yeah.

[01:43:26] Again, cause I would buy it.

[01:43:27] I would buy it.

[01:43:28] Okay.

[01:43:29] Well, Jackie and I said would buy it on both rounds.

[01:43:32] Apparently we very much like revenge a lot.

[01:43:36] I told you all the actresses in it too.

[01:43:38] Yeah.

[01:43:39] I enjoyed them all.

[01:43:40] And we have a couple of comments from Instagram.

[01:43:44] Or our quick drop.

[01:43:45] Those men are lucky.

[01:43:47] All they lost was their money.

[01:43:49] And that's the doom generation pie.

[01:43:51] I love, I love a vengeful response.

[01:43:56] This movie in all caps is a treasure and an amazing woman

[01:44:01] empowerment film from millennium underscore girl GURL.

[01:44:07] I love this movie, but I wish Rector,

[01:44:10] retro act, retro movie,

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[01:44:22] retro movie.

[01:44:23] So I wish rektira retro active recasting were a thing saying

[01:44:27] two words.

[01:44:28] Stephen Collins and that's from Angela to be PEC.

[01:44:31] And then.

[01:44:35] This movie 10 out of 10 from wherever sunshine.

[01:44:43] So if you want to be featured on our quick drop,

[01:44:45] give us a ring at nine zero nine six zero and six,

[01:44:47] and you could be featured on a future episode.

[01:44:51] And join us next week as we take on the DECOM Brink.

[01:44:55] And don't forget to come back next week

[01:44:57] for our bonus episode with our moms.

[01:45:00] And thank you again to our mamas for joining us.

[01:45:03] I know it was some heavy lifting,

[01:45:06] some technology that we had to learn how to use,

[01:45:09] but we appreciate y'all and we love you.

[01:45:12] And yeah, happy Mother's Day.

[01:45:15] Happy Mother's Day and thank you for having us.

[01:45:18] Thank you for birthing me.

[01:45:22] And as always, be kind and rewind.