The River Wild (1994) / Barb and Star Go to Vista Del Mar (2021)

[00:00:00] Let's get together talk about the movies that we saw this week. We'll have discussions, talk about news, we'll laugh a lot and act like these are sounds all net on guest or Tuesdays and just the two of us.

[00:00:09] I'll smack some jokes and tell some folks a co-log and I'm gonna ask if I can buy go to the movies I can buy go to the movies. Yeah! I'm not even a little excited about this episode of Mike and Mike Go to the movies.

[00:00:34] It's big, it's bigger than anything you've seen and tomorrow Mike you're going to drown in it and the rest of us are gonna be all under with the raft. So I'm not gonna pretend that I give a shit about you and your stupid friend and your

[00:00:46] pathetic small time nothing life but I've got everything I care about in this world, in this podcast and I've got my dinner waiting at the other end and I know I could not do this. I can not row this big water man, that's the truth.

[00:00:59] I cannot do it but I'm gonna try. It's Mike and Mike go to the movie. Incredible. Did you like that I replaced I've got my daughter waiting at the other end with Mike Do you? Yeah! As I go into eat after this podcast. I did like that.

[00:01:12] Good, I'm glad. I'm Mike Smith and Jordan is always someone who put on some cool lots for the occasion. Mike, do you hear? I'm doing great. I love a movie that starts with a like, Miriam's Webster definition of. What Miriam's Webster defines cool lots as?

[00:01:32] Yes yes very good. What's been going on, Mike, do you? What's happening in your life? Not a whole lot, you know? You know, watch lots movies to go and work, do an old, do an old, do an old, do an old old, release-stage capitalism shit.

[00:01:44] But but I did watch three of the four bedboys movies. So you have the better weekend than most. And most, baby, that's right. I was getting ready all geared up. I've of course seen bedboys one in bedboys two before, but I had not seen bedboys

[00:01:58] for life to get ready for bedboys, right at Ryder die. Right. And so I was like, you know what? Like how I can hotfuzz. You ain't never seen bedboys two, right? Of course. Gotta do it. So I just re-watched all of them. Pentwa is too fine.

[00:02:10] Yeah, I think bedboys, you know, bedboys two, I think is the worst bedboys. It's crazy that you said that because I was thinking it. Yeah, it's pretty good. But it's two and a half hours long. That's too much.

[00:02:23] Yeah, I mean, it's a weird movie that's like there's never been a pure distillation of Michael Bay as a filmmaker. Correct. Then bedboys two, you know, p-dick excess. It is a big gem. It's a true othor products of Michael Bay.

[00:02:38] At the same time, it's not one that I like, I want to watch it anytime soon. Yeah. You know? Like it is undeniably cool. Like obvious. There's great moments in that point. Yeah. That likes that like, Jiu-Bake and Safehouse shoot out where they're like the cameras

[00:02:52] just spin into a circle throughout the whole house. You see everybody on both sides amazing. 10 out of 10. Yeah, isn't there? There's some kind of like car chase scene where like they're throwing dead bodies up the truck or something like that right there.

[00:03:03] They are driving a coroner's truck as it turns bodies are sliding out the back and stuff and they're running them over. Be like, whoa, you know, all this stuff. Yeah. That's cool. One car is off the back of the car truck. Everybody knows that incredible.

[00:03:18] Yeah, but for two and a half hours too much. Which it's an insane movie for sure. Did you have a favorite of them three bad boys is watching? I really like one which was a shock to me because I think it is absolutely also

[00:03:30] understrain to Bayham or Bayham but like on a budget. That's like what is it? 1994. It's 95 and it's his first feature. It's his first movie. That's crazy. Yeah. It's like super low stakes. It's Joey Pances. Amazing.

[00:03:44] But I also did really like the I'm too old for this shit stuff of bad boys for life. Yeah, that is a fun aspect of that movie to merge that with the Bayham stuff even though I know he's not the director of that movie but he does Bayham.

[00:03:57] He doesn't have any of you. I was just very funny. I think he's an all of them. He's definitely in the second one. They try to car track him and he's driving like a real beat up Joloppy kind of car

[00:04:07] and they're like no come on man and they turn and look and there's like a Ferrari so the car jack back guy instead or like common deer is vehicle. Gotcha. He's in that but I don't remember if he's in the first one actually. Yeah, I'm an anyway.

[00:04:19] Yeah, I don't know but yeah I really like bad boys for life. I mean it's weird like I don't know. I think I like the new bad boys is for life and I saw Ryder die and I enjoyed that one too. I thought it was pretty good. Nice.

[00:04:31] But I don't know. I like them. I think I technically like them more than the Michael Bay Bad Boys movies but they're also like missing something. They're like missing that touch of bay you know what I'm saying? I do like the like ammo squad in for life.

[00:04:44] Yeah, I assume they're back and they're there. Oh, they are. Yeah, I mean they're most of them. I think one of them is fucking Vanessa Hutchinson. Vanessa Hutchinson's but like somebody else became a big actor and I'm blanking on who it is.

[00:04:55] Oh yeah, he was in he was in May December that guy. Yeah Charles Melton. Charles Melton. Yes. Is in bad boys for life. He's not in bad boys Ryder die. Fascinating which makes sense because he's kind of skyrocketing now. But yeah, I don't know.

[00:05:08] I've always felt like kind of just took the fast and furious formula of being like we're going to give these guys a you know, a work family to get a family. Yeah, you got a family. You got a family literal witch. Oh yeah, that's crazy.

[00:05:17] That's a crazy movie. Yes. Yeah. And so Ryder die kind of continues that and it's like similarly successful. There's a great sequence featuring Reggie from bad boys to in bad boys for life. What? Yeah, Reggie has jokes on and law.

[00:05:30] Yeah, Reggie has a fucking killer action sequence in bad costs. What a die. It looks really good. Really good. I think a deal in Bala who are the two guys who replaced Michael Bay as like they're really like competent action directors. They're really good.

[00:05:43] They also worked on the Miss Marvel Disney Plus TV show, which also had some really stylish action and like camera work. They were also the directors of the back row movie that was canceled. Right. Like I deleted. Yeah.

[00:05:56] And watching the bad boys movies, you're like, I got it. I'm like, it can't have fit in that bad. It's got to have been. It was probably pretty good. Yeah. Must have ruled. So yeah, there was that.

[00:06:05] Yeah, I really, I think for life, my favorite of the four bad boys movies. Oh yeah. More so than the Michael Bay ones, which seems crazy. I haven't seen the Michael Bay ones in a while.

[00:06:16] But I remember watching the first bad boys for the first time and thinking it was really weird that like a key plot of the movie is like an identity switching thing where you know, it's like Marcus pretending to be a mic and Mike pretending to be a Marcus

[00:06:28] for a lot of it. And I thought that was very weird for that to be the plot of the first movie when we're just getting to know these characters. Well, there's just such archetypes.

[00:06:38] It's so fun to just be like, oh, he's this, you know, Mike is the super confident playboy and Marcus is like the motor mouth ain't over his head. Yeah, and just like what if we flip them? Very fun. Right.

[00:06:50] But that feels like something that like the second movie would do. Right. Like let's introduce us to these characters first and then do that plot. Yeah. But that's not quite how it happened. I also think at some point they should bring Taylor to you on a back.

[00:07:02] I was going to say the thing that ages that we've been in like really places it is that Taylor and he is the, it's like the main girl. I mean, like the person they have to protect. She rules that movie too. Yeah, she's great. It's good. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:07:16] So the bad. I'm glad you watched the first three but it sounds like you enjoyed them but like not enough to like make it have to be the theater to go watch bad boys for.

[00:07:22] Well, it's such a weird thing that yes, I watched them like all three in a row, like three days in a row is like right here we go. It's the weekend. And now it's just like 100 degrees here in New York.

[00:07:31] And normally like you go, like going in the movies when it's 100 degrees is like a thing. Sure. Yeah, air conditioning. Yeah. But like I do have to go outside at some point in order to get to the movies. I would either just stay outside at all.

[00:07:43] I'm good on that shit. So yeah, I just didn't end up going. So yeah, I mean if it, if it cools off this weekend, maybe I'll just take a ride over there and go see bad boys. Ratter day. Ratter day is the name of the day. Yeah.

[00:07:57] Also a weird thing that the third one was called a bad boys for life. Which would have been the perfect title for the fourth one. It's so weird. And you know it's crazy too, just in general. I guess, you know, sounds like Reggie's back.

[00:08:09] But these movies have such a much like the fast and furious movies like a deep continuity to them. Yeah, like there's the guy at the end of the first one who's like the computer

[00:08:18] ways that hacks them into the undercover cops, the cop that gets killed or whatever is file that's been locked and you find out his girlfriend is the secretary or whatever. He's like the super nerdy guy and he's like, you can give me a present.

[00:08:30] If I do this, he's the tech guy in the second one. He's back. He works for the police now and he's the super hacker guy and all that stuff. And then I guess Reggie comes is just having Reggie come back between two and three is crazy.

[00:08:41] And having him come back and four. So yeah, I don't know. It's such a joe pants and all of them. So yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, I was watching Ryder die and thinking to myself like, man, I should have done

[00:08:50] a bad boys rewatch before this because I didn't watch any of them since for life came out. That was like three years ago. And it feels like a very, it's a very direct sequel to bad boys for life.

[00:09:01] So if you've just watched that movie, you'll be primed for Ryder die. Perfect. Yeah, there's like recurring dialogue that they do. Like his crazy. Yeah, the end of the first one, Mike is always clowning on Marcus or how he drives and

[00:09:14] he has some crazy driving stunt stuff and he's like, that's how you drive. You drive like that from now on. Yeah, you know. And then at the end of bad boys too, I forget exactly what the situation is about Marcus shoots somebody.

[00:09:26] Oh yeah, because they're in quantum obey which is insane. And somebody's got a gun on Mike like holding a hostage and Marcus manages to shoot the guy over Mike shoulder and he's like, that's how you shoot. You shoot like that from now on.

[00:09:38] Like they use the same this same dialogue. A couple of like, this is a pile. Why are these movies so committed to continuity? They're Michael Bay movies. Historically, a director that doesn't really care about that. Yeah, it doesn't matter at all. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:09:51] Well, today we're not talking about the bad boys, maybe today Mike. That's not the subject of this episode. It's not. You're about to say something. But it's what we're talking about a movie that is in the similar time frame in vain. Sure, yes.

[00:10:03] I guess I don't think either of today's movies are like the bad boys is in any way. But the first movie or one of the movies is from that same era as the original bad boys.

[00:10:12] Same era and I feel like the other movie could potentially be saturizing movies like bad boys. Sure. I don't know. We could talk them away into that. I can see that. Alright, yeah, there you go. That's why we talked about bad boys for 10 minutes.

[00:10:23] Alright, because we're talking about these two movies today. It's time for Mike makes Mike watch, Mike. We're doing our monthly thing where I pick a movie that's to make you watch and you pick a movie to make me watch something that neither of us have seen before, right?

[00:10:36] Correct. Yes. Well, one then, uh, near and dear to the person who's making the honor, I can't figure out how to phrase this. A movie that the person really likes that they want the other one to watch. There we go. Yeah, that's the one.

[00:10:48] And so today, Mike D is making me watch Curtis Hansen's 1994 film The River Wilds, starring Mel Streep, David Strathar and Kevin Bacon. And I'm making Mike D watch a movie from 2021. Actually, this came out a month after bad boys for, or bad boys for life was 2020.

[00:11:04] So this was a year later. Barben Star go to Visa Delmar is the, is the movie, which was supposed to come out in theaters in like the summer of 2020. And then, of course, COVID happened. And then it got a directivity on demand release.

[00:11:16] And has since become kind of a cold object. Yes. Did it get, I mean, well, I can, whenever do we get a theatrical release at the time? So I feel like I remember this being like a rate as vaccines were coming out. This came out in February 2021.

[00:11:29] Oh, okay. So literally. Yeah, I didn't see it in theaters that first time. I've seen it twice. The second time was in a theater. I'll talk about them a little bit. But yeah, no, I think if this did get a theatrical release, it was probably a small one.

[00:11:42] And like, you know, probably didn't like, it'd drive in. Yeah, and people weren't going out to the movies at that time. So it just didn't happen. I think most people saw this for the first time on video on demand.

[00:11:51] This was one of those movies, you know, that era of COVID where here's a new movie on video on demand. I guess I'm paying $20 to rent it. Right. And so I did. I think I did a double feature of this movie and Judas in the black Messiah. Wow.

[00:12:06] Both came out like on the same day. And I was like, all right, I'm paying $20 for each of them. Oh, Judas was on HBO Max. Yes. That that's, that was like one of those HBO Max deal movies. But yeah, I think I, I think I watched this first.

[00:12:17] Which man, I should have done the other one. Whoops. That was a mistake. But anyway, which of these movies would you like to talk about first, Mike? The river wild or Barb in Star go to Vista Delmar.

[00:12:29] I mean, in that same vein, let's talk about the river wild first. All right, there we go. It's time for Mike makes Mike watch. People don't do the gauntlet anymore. Can you hear it? Oh, yeah, listen, I ran the gauntlet once. And I was 18 and completely insane.

[00:13:04] But I was with two other guys, experience guides and we were just lucky. There were two other people that summer who did not get so lucky. One guy got killed. And the others paralyzed for life. But don't worry, we're going to hit some threes and four pluses.

[00:13:24] You're going to scream your gut that young man. We are going to risk death a number of times on this trip. All right, that was from the trailer for the River Wild from 1994 directed by Curtis Hanson.

[00:13:41] Not speaking fused with River Wild, which is the Netflix remake slash pseudo sequel that came out last year. As far as a late and mester and Terran Killam, you've seen that version too, right, Mike? I have, yeah, Adam Brody also is in it.

[00:13:57] Right, yeah, dropped to the, it's cleaner. Yeah, that's just a remake that I think they asked the director or something about and he was like, no, no, it's a spiritual sequel or it's set in the same universe or some

[00:14:12] shit, they made up some shit, so not just be like, yes, it's a remake. That's so insane for it to be like them to say. It's set in the same universe as the River Wild, like that universe is what Earth? Like it's just like a movie that exists.

[00:14:23] It's not even Star Wars. Yeah, yeah. So strange. But that movie is pretty good. I mean, it's fine, but it is absolutely insane to watch it close to having watched this movie again in the same context because that movie is so fucking dark. It is so intense.

[00:14:39] There is the inciting incident for the whole thing that if I can remember correctly is lateemister and her friends are like, you know, I can't remember if they're like celebrating a sobriety or something.

[00:14:51] They're like, they're on a girl's trip, like it's kind of like a spiritual thing or whatever. They're going to go to end this river that used to go to end with their kids and Adam Brody and Terran Killin, what an embryo brother is the brother of lateemister for

[00:15:02] get wish one. And the, I think Terran Killin is the like, townny friend that just recently got out of jail and Adam Brody's helping him with this job as a river guide and all this stuff.

[00:15:10] And he attempts to sexually assault one of the girls and pushes her and she falls and hits her head on a rock and dies. And that is the like, but nobody saw it so he has to pretend that it's like an accident.

[00:15:23] Why I just found her and what happened? And this like boiling tension of will they discover and what's going on and like it's like what the fuck? This movie is insane. The river wild is like a, is like a janty thriller. It's like what's going on?

[00:15:37] I mean, people do die in the river alone. I die in this for sure. But there's not like attempted sexual assault and like, I didn't murder and stuff. I don't know as well. Anyway, it was river wild. It was river.

[00:15:50] Yeah, no, I, so I've not seen the 2023 river wild. I'm, I'm going strictly off of the 1994 film but why Mike? Why was the river wild? The movie that you wanted to make me watch.

[00:16:01] So this is a movie that is in the sort of like, Mike D. Pantheon foundational texts that I've talked about a lot. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's Jurassic Park and Terminator 2 and those kind of movies.

[00:16:12] But this is one of the, one of those movies that like almost became a joke in my house where every time it was on we had to watch. Like we'd, no matter like, oh man, the river wilds out again and it's like we've seen

[00:16:23] this at 100 times and it'd be you know 45 minutes in the movie. We were like, oh, we got to finish it like that kind of thing. And that would be movies also like, you know, die hard. Sure. And we get the state of Crimson Tide.

[00:16:34] Crimson Tide speed is in there also. These kind of movies. And so you get the, that's the foundational texts for Mike D. And for some reason I don't know if it was just the two months that the river wilds on HBO or something in 1999.

[00:16:45] I don't know like when this was happening but if he came one of those movies that like as a goof that like the whole family, oh man we got us to stop for a watch the river wild.

[00:16:54] So I see it a million times but I haven't seen it in a really long time and I've never really heard anybody kind of talk about it. So I always wondered if this was just some movie that only my family remembers and is really fond of.

[00:17:04] But you know, like obviously, I had to be at a state in Crimson Tide in Speed that those are, those are you know, Canon movies. Movies in the Canon. But not I've never really heard the river wild talked about like that. So I was like, I don't know.

[00:17:15] I wonder if this is just a Mike D. Anastasia movie but I know you're in front of a danger guy now so like maybe Mike Smith will let out of this quite isn't that territory.

[00:17:22] But it's not like an action movie necessarily but it's some really good, you know, you would qualify them as action sequences which are just white water acting. Right exactly. Yeah. And it's, and it's a peril stream.

[00:17:33] This is the second also the second straight there and I've made you watch this year. Oh yeah, with movies in May 1 right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's for a long time David Strathar and to me was the guy from River wild and I must be

[00:17:45] the only human existence that that has had that thought. I think you said that in the May 1 review. I think so. I'm like. Yeah. Yeah. No, I was vaguely familiar with the river wild. Mostly because you had talked about it in the past. Yes good.

[00:18:00] And you know, I just, I think I had seen the poster maybe or something like that. I don't know why it wasn't it. Like I watched a lot of like 90s thrillers from this era. Yeah.

[00:18:09] When I was growing up and stuff, I don't know why this was like never in the rotation, why this never came up with the family or whatever it was. It was right about Curtis Hansen who like his next movie was LA confidential which

[00:18:17] right, you know, big movie like a, you know, had direct some big movies also to eight miles and I think his movie before this was hand I watched the cradle. Like you know, a pretty, a pretty major director and yeah, Marlostreeb Kevin Bacon, some big names in here.

[00:18:29] And yeah, I thought the river wild fucking rocked. This movie rules. I was, I was having such a great time with the river wild. In addition to those three actors, Marlostreeb Kevin Bacon, Tata Strait there, you've also got Joe Mazzello and drafted his own Joe Mazzello.

[00:18:46] And drafted his own. I was gonna say, you know, a year after he was the kid in Jurassic Park, he was the kid in the river wild, which is fun. And then also John C. Riley is in this movie, early John C. Riley role, very fun to

[00:18:58] see him pop up in this. And he has a pretty significant role in here too actually. You're kind of just watching these five people from most of the movie. Like, everyone's noile on outside character comes in Benjamin Bratz as the Ranger love him.

[00:19:10] But for the most part, you're just following these characters. And I watched this movie with my girlfriend for a while at least. And it was a, I want to give you the experience of watching the river wild at home. Okay. So I start the movie. It's like 11 o'clock.

[00:19:26] We had just gotten back from her softball game. We're hanging out. And she's like, oh, I'm going to do like a craft or something. But you can watch your movie for the podcast. I was like, great. I put none of the river wild.

[00:19:35] I put on the river wild. And she's kind of into it. And she's immediately like, Oh, that's a really great dog. This dad's an asshole. Like all of that stuff. She's kind of into it.

[00:19:44] And then 20 minutes in, there's a moment where it seems like the dog is in danger. And so I had to stop the movie. Yeah. She made me stop the movie so that she could look up whether the dog lives her dies.

[00:19:57] I was going to say, does she know does the dog die? Yes. OK. Yes. She's well aware and says she looked up whether the dog lives her dies in the process kind of like read the entire class and have to stop the movie.

[00:20:07] Like read every night, every night, every night, every night, every night, and I was like, OK, are we good to start the movie again? And she's like, yes, this was not the movie that I thought this was. Based on the first 20 minutes.

[00:20:18] You know, I think when you watch the first 20 minutes of the movie, it seems like this is going to be a movie about this family that's kind of getting torn apart a little bit and maybe like, Marlostree finding a romance with Kevin Baker. Right. Yeah.

[00:20:32] Maybe it's a little bit of a survival drama. You know, like right exactly. And then very quickly after that, it turns into a crime thriller. Turns out Kevin Baker and John C. Rowley have robbed something. I think it's a banker. So it's not a cattle auction.

[00:20:47] A cattle auction. They robbed the cattle auction as you do. And they're using the river to escape to make their grand get away. And so then the movie continues. And she's still pretty into it. And then like an hour in,

[00:21:00] she realized that she forgot her water bottle at her softball game. Oh, no. And now it's like one in the morning. Oh my god. And we're like, well, I guess we have to go to the softball field and go get the river. Went to the softball field.

[00:21:13] It's one in the morning. Couldn't find the water bottle. It's gone. Of course. Which is a bummer. She's very upset about it. So we came home and she just went to bed and I watched the rest of the movie by myself. Incredible.

[00:21:23] But despite all the interruptions with River Wilde, had a great time with it. Really, really fun. Marlustree, nominated for 21 Oscars over the course of her career. Not for the River Wilde. And I got to tell you that seems wrong. Seems wrong. She's incorrect. She's unbelievable in this movie.

[00:21:42] She's so good. I feel like Marlustree is one of those actors that I often take for granted a little bit. Yes. I think what are like my kid? I was trying to think of like, what are like my canonical, moral-street movies?

[00:21:54] And I've never seen the Devil Wars Prada, which is a big one. You know, and I think I've come close to watching it a couple of times. We played it at the Rocks season recently and we were going to go and then we just didn't.

[00:22:04] And it's not like a canonical movie from my girlfriend, D-Thir. So there's not like a reason for me to watch Devil Wars Prada. I was like thinking about it and I was like, yeah, so few choice. I've seen it and thought it was okay.

[00:22:13] I didn't like it that much. I really like deer hunter. I really like, cream versus creamer. I think that's a really good movie. Death becomes her sure adaptation. But like, I'm not gonna be a... Not gonna be a...

[00:22:24] But like, I don't, I think the second Malimea is better than the first one. And she's barely in the second one because her character's dead. Right. You know, I don't know. I think she's, but she's somebody who, when she pops up,

[00:22:35] I'm not like mad about it and I generally think she's good in things. But I sometimes forget how good of an actress she can be. Or like maybe sometimes I feel like, okay, well, she's a little overrated. 21 Oscar nominations come on. Come on.

[00:22:46] We don't need to nominate her for into the woods. You know, that's what we need to do. But watching her in River wild, I was like, oh yeah, no, Marlustrie, she's great. Fantastic. She should have gotten off to an audition for this movie. She's great in this.

[00:22:58] It's so... I'm so happy that you like this movie. And maybe we evaluate my entire relationship with Marlustrie. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, like I said, there's a part of me that assumed that this is sort of just

[00:23:10] like a forgotten, like maybe it's not really that good movie because nobody ever really talks about it. But it turns out it's laughs and that's exciting. Yes, and I rewashed it and I agree. Like in rules. Good. I'm glad. Yeah, no. And also, we're married bonus.

[00:23:24] A lot of this movie was shot in Montana. It was shot in the Flathead River and the Kootenay River, both of which are in Montana and the Flathead River actually leads into the Clark Fort River, which is the river that flows right by my house in Missilele, Montana.

[00:23:37] Wow. So I had a special connection to the river wild as well. I was watching. The independent river that flows by your house and Missilele, my head is exactly like... Amazing. But yeah, I think it starts off with a very kind of

[00:23:52] 90s premise where it's a classic 90s dad who works too much. It doesn't have 10 for his family. The dog doesn't listen to him. The dog doesn't even listen to him. The dog doesn't like him. And it's the kind of thing you see in like hook or liar liar

[00:24:06] all those kind of films. Every movie. And David straight there and I think plays that character really well and does a really good job of showing up when he shows up and he's on the river with them.

[00:24:16] Like I first think he's not going to go on the trip because he has to work. And he's like an architect and he has to do architect things. He's got to get the accounts, he's going to ever do some sketches. Yeah.

[00:24:25] But if these sketches are in invite tomorrow, the whole building is down or whatever. I don't know. But yeah, the whole family is feeling very disconnected from the father and like the sun feels like he doesn't want to spend any time with them.

[00:24:37] And so he's like, oh, I'm sorry kids, I can't go on the vacation for the third year in a row. Right. And it's like the sun's birthday. It's the week of the sun's birthday and all that stuff. And so they go without him.

[00:24:49] But then he finally like he shows up at the last minute and's like, oh, hey, you guys ready to go? Oh, oh. But he has a very good job of like feeling very out of place for those first like few like, you know,

[00:24:59] that first stretch of the movie where they're on the river and he's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, very beautiful. Love it. Yeah, that's great. And he's like drawing every time they like stop to do anything and all that kind of stuff. But then like as the movie goes on,

[00:25:11] like, I don't know, he becomes like a cool action hero. Yes. It's great. Yeah, like once his family is threatened, he like becomes a dad. Like it goes into like pop of our modes. When he was like free solo climbing on that one

[00:25:24] or all like, it's so cool. And then he uses his architect expertise to Jerry Riga, a trathom baby. It's so good. Yes. Also not only does the dog not die, this is the most heroic dog ever seen in any movie. Maggie, one of the great movie dogs, fantastic.

[00:25:44] It's like this and the dog from prey are like the top one into like movie dogs, heroic movie dogs. And I just love like the completion of that mini arc between the dad and the dog where the dad kind of gets separated from the family

[00:25:59] and the dogs already run off because Kevin was about to shoot the dog and the dog's already run off. But the dog's been following the family on the ground this entire time. And then finally the dad and the dog meet up and they're running together.

[00:26:12] And then the dad has like jump off this cliff and so okay Maggie, I'm kind of three, we're gonna jump off the cliff, okay? And he jumps and the dog doesn't jump and then he's in the water it's like, okay Maggie, you can do it come on

[00:26:21] and Maggie finally listens to him and jumps off the cliff. Good. Fuck yeah. Ever in the crowd goes wild and we're ripping our seats out of the chair. I'm cheering on my couch like two in the morning. Like, yeah. Yeah, it's so fun, it's so good.

[00:26:35] And there is a wild, like wild, the able is a moment. It's very beginning in the movie because the Meryl Streep's father is deaf, which so they all know sign language which becomes important. So they can communicate without Kevin Bacon and John's you're finally knowing.

[00:26:49] But there's a moment where it's Meryl Streep and they're on the farm the day before they go on their trip or whatever. They've gone out to the country wherever my dad had I guess. Yeah. And she's talking to her mom saying like, I think my marriage is done.

[00:27:02] We don't talk, we don't connect whatever. And the mother's like, you know, when back in my day marriage, marriage meant something, you don't think like with your father's deafness, I would have left. And we're like, whoa! What the fuck? It's so crazy at a nowhere. Yeah.

[00:27:17] But while they said he or daughter too. Yeah, that's fucked up. That's her dad. So yeah, that is very funny. In retrospect. But that's also the grandma from John Teys Peak that jumps out of the boat and dies on the pond. Oh shit, that's that, actually. Cool, cool.

[00:27:32] Another foundational like Detect. Right? Yes, which I only watched for the first time two years ago. But yeah, fun movie. Fun movie, good stuff. So yeah, I'm glad you liked it. And then I loved the kind of conclusion also of setting up

[00:27:46] the like spirit, vision quest stuff and the like native journey. Right. And then the father using that in the Jerry Raging the trap. So he can like write the sign language up on the one, the cliff so they see it and stuff.

[00:27:58] So they know what's gonna happen and that. It's all. So good stuff. We used to have never figured where they took from us. You know, like this is definitely one of those movies that has that vibe to it because it's like kind of like

[00:28:08] no nothing mid 90s thriller thing. And it looks amazing and there's one shining particular that maybe really think that where it is just when the family goes past a bridal creek, which is like the final, the final takeout or whatever they call it

[00:28:23] that before the gauntlet, like it's where everyone has to get off the river. And the build up to the gauntlet is so good. So fucking good. But it's that moment where it's like it's dusk. There's other people getting off the river there

[00:28:34] and stuff like the end of the line. And there's just one guy up on a cliff playing his fiddle as we just take this real slow, wide shot moment as our family goes around the bend. And it's just like, this is beautiful. This is amazing. Yeah.

[00:28:47] And it's in a real place. You know, like they're on a river. And never forget what they took for us. Yeah, no, this must have been filming on the water. Very hard. I can't imagine that before things to do.

[00:28:58] And yeah, I think this movie does a really good job of it. I'm not exactly sure how they accomplished all the big white water stunts. But they look really good. And then when they finally get to the gauntlet at the end,

[00:29:08] it feels like you've really built up to it. And all that whole sequence is really harrowing and intense and Kevin Bacon's got the gun. And that's coming out every once in a while. And that moment at the end, when she has the gun

[00:29:20] and Kevin Bacon, and it doesn't have a bullet in it. But then it does. Yeah, it's very good. Oh man. Yeah. The moment when David's straight there and gets to the gauntlet first, right? And he like, crests the mountain or the cliff side.

[00:29:33] And it's just like this giant mat painting of the gauntlet. And then it's just like, he's like, my god. Like I wrote everything says, it's like so intense. And yeah, in that moment at the end where she's going to kill Kevin Bacon potentially with the pistol.

[00:29:45] And there's no bullet in it or whatever. And he's like, you know, you would have spent the rest of your life wondering if you ever had to kill me. And now you know, whatever. But there's no bullets, so kill him, John C. Riley.

[00:29:54] And she's like, there was a way to know. Bang, it looks like, oh, it's so fucking good. Man, so good. And Kevin Bacon's such a great, like, sleazy dude in this movie. Yeah. I mean, even from the beginning, I think one of my favorite things

[00:30:05] like that first 45 minutes of the movie before the big reveal happens and it turns out they like there's hints that something is uncomfortable. Yeah. And I love how just openly he's cucking David Strickler. Yeah. Throughout the movie, he's just absolutely jumping in.

[00:30:21] Immediately has a great relationship with the sun. Yeah. He's like, you didn't tell them about us right? Like when David Strickler shows up for the first time. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. Yeah. And I love the detail too.

[00:30:31] There's a moment early in the movie when he and Joe Mazzello first meet and Kevin Bacon gives him his hat. Yeah, that's like a James addiction hat. Or it's like a, I think it's a lot of losers. Lala Palusa, but like Joe Mazzello is like,

[00:30:41] oh man, you got to see James addiction so cool. It's a nice good, nice and 94. And he gives him Lala Palusa hat. And Joe Mazzello is wearing that for the rest of like for a while. But then once it's revealed that Kevin Bacon is a bad guy

[00:30:57] and he's like, once Joe Mazzello basically finds out that Kevin Bacon is the bad guy, I noticed that he's wearing a different hat after Wednesdays. He took off all of the clothes and had he's wearing a different one. I don't think I noticed that.

[00:31:07] Yeah, that's funny, which is a fun little detail. Yeah. I love just like, you know, every time he's interacting with the kids like, oh yeah, man. So cool. We're gonna go fishing together. Oh, here's $200 for you. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:20] And I love the moment when they're like making the plan it's straight there in a mirror street or like making the plan to like, okay, like excuse who wake up tomorrow will get in the river, will get on the river, will just ditch them right? Yeah.

[00:31:33] After that, I think it's after the $200 thing. So they've figured out something is wrong and we would be talking about this. At this point, because Marl's cheap goes skinny dipping and then she's like, like, take a look at him just like watching from this shadow. Yeah.

[00:31:45] And that's such a great shot too. It's a big wide shot and there's a lightning flash and you just see him off in the corner before she turns around and sees him. Yeah. It's amazing. So then then at the next morning

[00:31:54] and because David Strayther and made Joe Mazzello give the $200 back and he's like, ruin the, you know, it's awkward. He's like, I'm going with them. They're cool. They're my real friends and Joe's in the boat name and they immediately take off before the parents do

[00:32:05] and they crank the music up. Well, we can't hear you what? And they like take off, does like, oh, these guys are so slimy. They're not so good. He's showing Joe Mazzello the gun, like, when they're, but it's a very funny thing that I like to track

[00:32:18] on the podcast. The like all movies are the same joke that my friend makes. When we watch these, yeah. So we're watching this movie. We're watching the movie. And it's that scene when they're like, he's gonna show him the gun.

[00:32:30] But it's like right before that and he's like, oh, I forget what Joe Mazzello's character's name is, but he's like, work, work. Yeah, he's like, hey, work. You want to see something? And my friend's like, I'm gonna show this cute a gun. Like I said, Joe.

[00:32:42] No, no, I was like, hey, did you ever see this movie? He's like, no. And then he unzips the bag and takes out a gun. All the movies are the same. Yeah. So, and I like that John C. Riley is like, he's going along with everything,

[00:32:54] but he's like very uncomfortable with everything. Oh, yeah. He doesn't like it. And he even says, like, you know, you told me nobody was gonna get hurt. Now there's three dead people or whatever it is at that point. Yeah. Benjamin Bratt for a long time to me

[00:33:04] was the guy from the park ranger from Riverwile. Share in this two scenes. Yeah, which I like, I was bummed that he was killed. Yeah. But I think, you know, I liked his two scenes. I think when he shows up and he's like,

[00:33:18] oh, he's like a kid that Merrill's should be used to babysit. Right? He's a park ranger and they haven't seen each other in like 20 years, but it's like a very uncomfortable reunion because Kevin Bacon's got up to her back and he doesn't write about it.

[00:33:28] And there's a great, like the dad is like trying to like spell SOS in the sand. And yeah, Jonsi Riley notices and covers it up. Yeah, good stuff. The movie is maybe. Yeah. The movies. Oh, yeah. Any other thoughts about Riverwile Mike for you?

[00:33:41] I move on, type on the other movie. I've thought about the moment in Riverwile where it's at the end after they've flipped the boat and they've done like the booby trap stuff. Yeah. Where Merrill's Streep breaks Jonsi Rally's arm with the or for like 20 years.

[00:33:55] I don't know what it is specifically about that scene in the way he's like, wow, he spins around and his arm is all bloody. In fact, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Jonsi Rally, great. Yeah, I love how impressed Joe Mazzello

[00:34:07] is with his parents by the end of the movie too. Yeah, he comes around. Yeah. And like at that moment, where he's like, yeah, mom, here we go. I forgot about that. Yeah, it's very, very good. Yeah, it's too bad the daughter couldn't come on the trip.

[00:34:19] I don't know. She's too young. She was too young, especially for all this stuff that went down. Yeah. Who can't have her involved in a crime thriller? Yes. But yeah, the river wild, it rocks. I'm very glad that you maybe watched this movie

[00:34:30] like what my favorites in a while. So yeah, there we go. She'll move on, Mike and talk about our other movie today. We shall. All right, let's do it. It's time to talk about Barb and Star. Go to Vista Delmar. What are you doing?

[00:35:04] Oh, I was just playing with his lamp. I'm star, short for star breath. So yours is Barbara? Nope, it's just Barbara. I want to thank Barbara Star or hosting tonight's talking club and we're making their hot dog soups. I like the salt. I like the hot dog.

[00:35:23] It's not as runny as it usually is. What is she throwing at you? I hope she can say bigger tea. No big tea, she loves big tea. Even if it's just two eyes on a bunch of tea. It's so nice. Look, my new phone case. My favorite love-a-s.

[00:35:40] If like I'm listening to the ocean, wait, we're in circles. I know I'm going to take it home and do it to our land last. Hi. Hi. Hi. I'm Barb and this is Dan. What number again please? Six, 11. Six, 11. Oh my, Barb. Oh my gosh, she's six, 11. Six, 11.

[00:36:07] Wearing 124. Alright, that was on the trailer for Barb and Star. Go to Vista Delmar from 2021. Directed by Josh Greenbaum, written by Kristen Wagan Annie Mammolo, who both also star in the movie. And yeah, I think I wanted to make you watch this movie, because I watched this

[00:36:30] when it came out. I was movie I was excited for. But like, I think I had seen a trailer, but I had seen the poster for this movie, like walking through the AMC in late 2019 and early 2020 when Brightide, Bushy Tail, nothing could possibly go wrong.

[00:36:46] And then of course everything shut down. But it was supposed to come out in the summer of 2020. It was going to be a theatrical release. It was kind of being pushed as a big studio comedy. I think it was always destined to probably bomb.

[00:36:57] But it was, you know, what kind of drew me to it and not having seen the trailer in it like that. I don't think there were even was a trailer at the time. Is that Kristen Wagan Annie Molo had both written Brightides' Mays Together?

[00:37:10] And this was their first movie since then, together. And I was like, oh, wow, this is the follow-up to Brightides' Mays. Interesting. And then this movie kind of got sort of, it was pushed back and I don't want to say

[00:37:20] like, dumb, dumb video and demand, because at that point everything was coming out of a video and demand. But it kind of got released in video and demand in February of 21. And yeah, people were talking about it for a little bit. But that was kind of it.

[00:37:32] You know, it didn't develop too much. And then over the years, I don't know, I started seeing like, you know, more and more people kind of talk about Barbon's Star, going to visit them a little bit.

[00:37:39] And specifically at the Rocksy, it's a very pocta's movie among the staff. Interesting. And so I had, this was before my time at the Rocksy, but I know when this movie came out, when the theater was closed for the pandemic, everyone's the mildest staff would come

[00:37:53] to the theater and watch a movie together just like, you know, social distance in the theater. And Barbon's Star was one of those movies. And so the staff watched the movie, loved it, we're laughing a lot, all that kind of stuff.

[00:38:03] I know my Gemin's friend of the show has seen Barbon star like five or six times at this point. And so yeah, we talked about a lot, we referenced it a lot.

[00:38:13] And then last year at the Rocksy, we did a thing for our 10-year anniversary as a theater where we put out a poll for every year that we've been open essentially. So from 2013 through 2023, in our 2020 selection ended up being Barbon Star, what if you said, Del Mar.

[00:38:28] So people voted on which movies from each year that we would show. And Barbon's star ended up being the movie from 2020, movie didn't come out until 2021, but we didn't realize that when we were putting the poll together.

[00:38:38] And it just feels, and it was so much of a COVID movie. We were like, it counts. Yeah, that's 2020, right? And so we played it at theater in September last year. I went to it, it was a sold-out screening. And it was a delight, it was so great.

[00:38:52] I enjoyed the movie the first time I watched it, but I watched it, you know, I think my girlfriend was with me for at least some of it, but I was mostly by myself on the couch watching Barbon's song of his D'Amar.

[00:39:01] Lapt, had a good time, but rewatching it in September last year where they full crowd was really, really fun. It was a great experience and kind of drove home at how funny this movie is to me.

[00:39:13] And so I wanted to give you at least a fraction of that experience, Mike. So taste, exactly. So what did you think of Barbon's D'Amar? So every now and then there are movies that I see people talk about on film Twitter and stuff.

[00:39:28] And I just, I can't help but think that everyone's joking. Right. Like they have to be, it's gotta be a goof. You know, like the Venom movies, sure. That's stuff I can't think about. Those are the most obvious one that I came to my mind.

[00:39:44] I'm sorry, you're not excited for the Venom horse in Venom horse is cool but there's gonna be another hour, 45 minutes and I can't abide by that. I can't bother with these Venom movies anymore. Yeah, I can't do it.

[00:39:57] So I can't think of any other ones off the top of my head. One that I don't like, but stuff like that. Right, we're joking. This isn't a real thing. So unfortunately, how I felt about Barbon's D'Argo de Vistodomar.

[00:40:10] I think there are moments in this movie that are incredible and I think overall it's so close for me. I don't know, I got so right there man. I mean, I definitely acknowledge that's me being alone watching this movie.

[00:40:22] You know, I definitely, you know, comedies are better with a crowd. Yeah, I gotta say I make any watch comedies. That seems to be much more. Well, so here's the other thing too. Like, you know, there's other movies like this that you've made me watch that turn

[00:40:33] out to that I love. Like, the grubber and pop star. I feel like fall into that kind of like before I saw them. I was like, yeah, but everybody's joking. Right. Like kind of thing. But it turns out those movies are great and they really like them.

[00:40:44] So there's something about Barbon's D'Argo de Vistodomar. And I think part of it is that like had on a hat thing of this kind of cookie vacation comedy thing that's also a super spy secret evil plan thing. And the super spy evil plan thing.

[00:40:58] Like, and I know that's like the driving engine of the plot and all that crap. But like, Barbon's D'Argo de Vistodomar, I think are great characters that are very funny together and I would have just liked a justification comedy thing.

[00:41:08] I don't like with it's also partly a musical. Every time it has to like sland the brakes and do the doctor evil, whatever. I forget, doctor. No, I forget why this character cuts the big character is there. The evil character? Yeah, but Sharon Fisherman. Sharon Fisherman.

[00:41:25] Yeah, what it's got to do all that stuff and I don't know. It's just like, it's all, it is funny. Like in those moments too, especially the first one where it's like the evil scientist is like, but this is to help people, right?

[00:41:34] And they like have to be like, he doesn't know what the plan is. So many difficulties murderous mosquitoes thinking it's to like, I forget cold cattle or something which is very funny. But yeah, just overall throughout the whole thing I was like, oh, this would be funny.

[00:41:50] Like, you know, and like, oh, this is a joke. Part, like you can, like I don't know, there was just something missing and it's probably the communal crowd reactions to a comedy. So there's those moments that, that, you know, have that, I don't know, like, and you

[00:42:03] see his caveat is great. Reba's great. Damien Wayne's Jr.'s is very funny in concept, but something does not work for me for that. I like the idea that he's a secret spy that keeps accidentally revealing more and more

[00:42:15] of his own personal information is very funny, but there's something in the delivery and set up every time that just like, don't face it. And I don't know what I don't know what happened. I don't know what's missing.

[00:42:25] So yeah, Varvan Star is swinging a miss for me on first watch, which is unfortunate. Jamie Dornan's great. Like I recognize that there is a lot of potential in this movie, which is, yeah, did not land.

[00:42:35] Jamie Dornan was a mic nominee for best supporting actor in the 21st world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think he's incredible in this movie. I'm just disappointed in your reaction, Mike. Yeah.

[00:42:46] You know, it's a bit of a bummer, but yeah, I think if you watch again at some point in the near, in the near-ish future, maybe we'll get some friends together and watch it. Yeah, maybe some substances, you know, I don't know.

[00:42:55] I mean, I mean, that kind of stuff might help a lot. Sure. What's really interesting about Varvan Star to me is that, you know, like I said, this is Kristen McGame, Molo, they started the movie. They also wrote it.

[00:43:04] Their previous movie was Bridesmaids, which is, you know, I've seen Bridesmaids a bunch. I mean, I saw Bridesmaids in the theater and liked it a lot. I have watched it a lot in the past few years because it is one of my girlfriend's favorite movies. Love her.

[00:43:16] Love Bridesmaids and it's on and it happens to be on TV all the time. That's a big TNT movie. Yeah, yeah, it's actually on E most of the time. If it's anywhere, it's fascinating. Usually it's on E sometimes it's on like on MTV or something like that.

[00:43:30] But yeah, it pops up here and there all the time. And so I feel like I'm constantly seeing like 15 minute chunks of Bridesmaids all over the place, right? Just like the River Wiles in Vietnam in 1999. Exactly. Exactly.

[00:43:44] And so Bridesmaids is great movie, but it's a very different movie than Barbers Stargoat of Yves to Del Mar, which Bridesmaids is very much in that like, apatow comedy mold of the early 2010s, like late 2000s,

[00:43:55] when it was like, you know, there's a lot of like gross out humor. It gets very wild and ronchy, but there's a heart at the center of it and there's a lot of improv humor and all that kind of stuff.

[00:44:04] And I think Barbers Stargoat of Yves to Del Mar feels like I throw back to the 90s kind of comedy, specifically the Austin Powers movies. You mentioned that for Esel before and I thought that might have been like a 40 in Slip or something. Absolutely.

[00:44:16] Yeah, you know, it feels very much like an Austin Powers movie, but set through the lens of this vacation comedy. And I don't know that that really tickles me. That's very funny to me.

[00:44:25] I think the two characters, like the two interactions, just just them going back and forth together is so funny to me. And then you add on the, you know, the Austin Powers stuff, I guess.

[00:44:34] And I think it is maybe like a hat and a hat thing, but I think all that stuff is really funny too. You know, there's a lot of really good stuff there. I think Chris and Big Dunga dual role where she is both, she's Barber, right?

[00:44:46] Of Barber and Star or she's Star. I think she's Star. She is Star actually. You're right now. But yeah, Kristen, we got Star, but then also as Sharon Fisherman who is sort of in a relationship with Jamie Dornan's character, who has a love triangle sort of

[00:45:00] thing going on with Barber and Star. That stuff is very funny. I will admit that the love triangle and them all sneaking around each other's back to just constantly have sexes hilarious. It's very, very good.

[00:45:11] And I love that you know, when she's as Sarah Sharon Fisherman, the villain, she does not want to be like, she's like, like, she doesn't want to be part of the relationship with Jamie Dornan. Like, oh, yeah, Miss YouTube, I guess.

[00:45:23] Sure, you know, or she's like, oh, do you miss me too? It's like, well, you know, normally you're here and now you're not. Yeah, yeah, just his whole thing is he wants to be an official couple and she keeps

[00:45:36] being like, well, you know, I don't think I'm ready yet. Yeah, so funny. It's very, very good. And yeah, I think, but by do you think Jamie Dornan is the standout in this movie? And truly, like I really love what Ryan Gosling did as Canon Barbie.

[00:45:50] But this feels like, oh, this is like, this movie almost feels like the prototype for what Barbie was. Oh, yeah, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he definitely is leaning into that that he is Christian Gray, right? And the, yeah, right, the 50 shades of gray movies.

[00:46:04] And so they're just constantly burning down. And I'm just so funny. There's one moment in particular where I forget what it's going on. But Kristen Wigs, like, as star is like, well, you know, whatever they're having a regular

[00:46:16] conversation and she's like, well, what if we went on the stairs over there? And you know, whatever had said that forget what you've been using. But then it just like smashed cuts to them, like putting their clothes back on. Like on a, unlike a, like a lifeguard stand.

[00:46:28] Yeah, whatever. And she's like, well, okay, I gotta get going. So like, you know, thanks, you know, that was good. Thank you. And she gets up and walks off screen and then is like a beat of Jamie Dornan just like, whoo.

[00:46:39] And she comes back and she's like, one more time. And they just like, yeah, it's just so funny. Like I don't know. And they keep doing that. Yeah, he's like a love struck puppy the entire movie. The whole time. And it's very, very fun.

[00:46:50] And he does have, I think, the movies stand out sequence, which is his BPS number, uh, C-Bill's in the sand, which is just so, I don't know, it's played so sincerely. Yeah. It's so stupid.

[00:47:02] And yeah, I don't know, I just, um, him going like leap in and he's like leaping through the air as he's doing it. It's really great. Love it. Big fan. He's, he's doing the thing we talked about a lot on the Michelle Yopak cast where people

[00:47:14] would like say the name of their attack before they do it. Yeah, he's like just narrating his actions. Yeah, he's just like, yeah, just singing with things that he's doing. Like now I'm climbing a tree or whatever. Like it is. Yeah, it's good stuff.

[00:47:26] Yeah, it's very, it's very good. I'm, uh, this is a point that you didn't like it more, Mike. But are there any other scenes in the movie that stood out to you? Things that you wanted to give me shout out to? The Richard Cheese came over.

[00:47:36] Richard Cheese is very funny. I like him. But yeah, the thing that, um, that, you know, it made me think of and I think it's because of David Wayne's Jr. and just like Wayne's pit in the name.

[00:47:45] You know, it made me think of like date movie and, uh, epic movie and like the bad ones of those movies. And not, not that I'm comparing it to that. But like those came to mind and I was just like, I don't know.

[00:47:58] You know, like the way that this is like a throwback to a different era of comedy movie. Kind of thing. I was just like, I went to the wrong one in my associations in my brain while I was watching it.

[00:48:08] So that just put it off on the wrong foot and stuff. So yeah, maybe if I watch it like I said with, uh, you know, some animals and friends or something like it might land a lot harder. But that said the stuff with, uh, um, is it 80 Brian?

[00:48:21] No. Who's the, oh, the Vanessa Bear right? The like the talking club stuff is how we keep cutting back to them at home still. Well, it's like, for going to Bourbon star or doing at one point they're doing something

[00:48:34] in scene together and then it just cuts back to the talking club and she's like, you know, my favorite facial expression is like, yeah, it should make some silly face or whatever. Um, because they're only allowed to talk about the topic that comes out of the jar. Right.

[00:48:48] It's good. I don't know. That's a good recurring bit in the, the one woman from the office that wants to talk about her horse that week. They're not allowed to. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. There's stuff throughout the movie. Andy Garcia as Tommy Bahama. Yes.

[00:49:02] And he's like this spiritual guru got like a spirit vision that their bar has very funny. Very good. I have named Morgan Freeman that has the same work in Freeman. Yeah. You know, that's good. Yeah.

[00:49:14] No, it's, it's a movie that I think really benefited from having the crowd experience. I mean, I enjoyed it when I watched it the first time and like had a great time with it,

[00:49:23] but like didn't really think too much about it afterwards other than Jamie Jordan and his performance of Seals in the Sand. But watching with the crowd, I feel like there were so many jokes that I've forgotten about. And I don't know, it's, it's very rapid fire.

[00:49:34] There's so many jokes in this movie. It packs them in. Yeah. And yeah, it's like watching it in the theater like felt like we're watching a cult emerge as the, you know, it's still very young in the movie's life.

[00:49:46] It's only been out for like three years and you know, people have seen it. If people reference it every once in a while, but it's not like a very popular movie. It's not like a cult object in the same way as some other comedies are.

[00:49:56] And so yeah, this feels like one that I think should get more eyes on. Sounds like you don't think so. I'm a course. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not going to be one of those people that's like, you're wrong for liking this. She didn't work for me.

[00:50:09] There is the one really funny moment when Barbon Star gets to the hotel and it's like this big musical number and they're like, look at you know, like, welcome to your VK, whatever. They're like, it's a whole thing.

[00:50:18] And they say like the Palm Springs or whatever, Palm Springs motel instead of hotel. And it's just like record scratch. Like what did you say? And they're like they realize they're at the wrong place.

[00:50:28] And there's a really funny beat while the guy is explaining that like, oh no, you have rooms at the motel across the street. And then one guy comes in singing and he's like, Jason, you're always late. What the fuck? Like he's like, he's totally missing this song.

[00:50:41] That's a very funny, weird fourth wall thing. That was very funny. And yeah, then they go to the motel and I'd like that bit too where they're checking him and the guys like, so do you want to do a bit?

[00:50:51] They're like, yeah, he's like, all right, all right. He's like writing that in a notebook and sheets. No. With Pillars. And they're like, no, we don't need pillows. Like they're so embarrassed. They say no to the pillows. Good stuff. Yes, that's very good.

[00:51:09] I did also want to mention my favorite joke in the movie, which is when they first meet Jamie Dornan and he is, you know, they're at the bar and they're hanging out and, you know, they first meet him and he's like, oh, what room are you in?

[00:51:21] And he's like, I mean, I mean, room, you know, 1997 or something. And Bar was like, oh, star, did you hear that? 1997? Wow, oh my god. We're in six, oh four. That's very funny. And I actually really like that whole scenes, right?

[00:51:38] Because then they get like, I forget what they order but they get this crazy fishbow with a pirate ship and it's like nobody's at the bar tenders like nobody's ever been it managed to drink this. And if you finish it, there's a treasure at the end.

[00:51:49] He turns around, he turns back and they've completely drained it. And they're like, oh yeah, we're those pills and the treasure chest. They're just getting like really fucked up and it's like, you know, it's just a montage of them very drunk.

[00:52:02] It's like, I don't know, I like, we've heard dream or something like it's a crazy, you know, drug induced haze they're in, which leads them to the three way that they have in their hotel room and yeah, all that stuff takes the whole plan on. Yes. All right.

[00:52:17] Let's barb and star go to Vista del Mar, which yeah, unfortunately, might be didn't love but that happened sometimes. That's okay. Like I said, I really like the barb and star characters and like they're very Kate, they're wacky vacation stuff. Yeah.

[00:52:29] But it's the extra Austin power is level that I was just like I'm not interested in this part. I mean, that's like the whole plot of the movie. So it happens pretty free. Right. That is a lot of it.

[00:52:38] So yeah, if you're not on board with that, then that's going to bring things down for you. There's also one moment that I forgot about until I watched it in the with the crowd in that Austin power spot where there's like a little kid that's like her assistant.

[00:52:49] Yes. There's a moment where like she's on the phone with a little kid while he's like driving a submarine. And he's just like moving his hands up and down like the steering wheel and say, okay, okay, are you moving your hands up and down in the steering wheels?

[00:53:01] So you're going to look a little zigzag like. Yeah. It's like do whatever you do. Don't keep the wheel straight. Lots of little left and right turns. I have to be honest, I watched this a couple of days ago and every day on my drive

[00:53:16] two and from work. I think of that. Oh, really? So there will be a lasting impression of Marvin's star for me. Right. Just like lots of left and right turn. Yeah. Nice. All right, that's Marvin's star go to VcDumR and the river wild to very good movies or

[00:53:32] according to my deed one very good movie and one that's fine. That's fine. What's next? What's the next mic makes mic watch? What do we, what's the July lineup looking like? What is July?

[00:53:41] I feel like I went more summer blockbuster stuff but I'm not 100% off the top of my head. Okay, I will point out another really funny bit that I enjoyed in the Marvin's star.

[00:53:51] Is that the end of the movie when the big climax and the confrontation on the beach and all that stuff in Marvin's star are out on the jet ski and blah, blah, blah. And it's Jamie Darnin and Damon Wayne's junior fighting on the beach and they're just

[00:54:03] like summer assaulting together and they just keep summer assaulting like they just keep rolling over each other like it cuts back to them and they're still just rolling. You can tell they're like exhausted and this is like one take and that's very funny. Yes.

[00:54:19] So let's see, Franchalye, another foundational mic detects. Okay, it's a core. Okay. Do we have to have a column on that episode? We definitely could. Yeah, you know the core is a movie that I wanted to see when it came out in 2003.

[00:54:37] Like it was I was 10 and so I didn't have the agency to go to the movie theater by myself for anything like that. So I was at the behest of my parents who didn't take me to the core but I did want

[00:54:46] to see it at the time and never got around to us. So how can you not want to see a movie whose tagline is Earth has a deadline? I think it's a sound sick as hell, sound sick. That's great.

[00:54:57] And then by movie for you actually, Mike, which I'm going to try to make a point to rewatch this one actually. I often don't redo the rewatch for Mike makes Mike watch because I don't have the

[00:55:05] time but I haven't seen this in a while and I should watch it again. It's Streets of Fire. Oh, it's a hell movie for me to do it. Yes, which is a movie that's great actually Patrick Willam is just today a video about it recently.

[00:55:17] Yes, yeah like a thing about how the rest of the video basically about which is exactly how I feel a best Streets of Fire which is that for about 20 minutes this is the best movie ever made and the rest of it's good.

[00:55:29] The rest of it's pretty good, but like the first 10 minutes in the last 10 minutes unbelievable when you're watching when you're watching the musical performances out of sight, it's great. I think you'll really enjoy it Mike. Nice. I've been on a bit of a Walter Hill kick in general.

[00:55:41] That's true, yeah you just watched what was that movie Extreme Prejudice? Extreme Prejudice which Diabolic DVD should be delivering this week. I think it's very excited about that. So yeah, I mean it's one of those big kind of tent-pull director guys that I haven't

[00:55:56] really seen a ton of so I'm excited to fill it in and this is one of the big ones I think. Yeah, absolutely. Streets of Fire and the core. The core. The next Mike makes Mike watch us that I'll become an atcha sometime in July.

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