Stargate (1994) / The Adventures of Tintin (2011)

[00:00:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get together and talk about the movies that we saw this week.

[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll have discussions, talk film news, we'll laugh a lot and act like geeks.

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we'll have a guest or two, sometimes it's just the two of us.

[00:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's crack some jokes and tell some folks to come along and hang with us!

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't my go to the movies.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't my go to the movies.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah!

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You have chosen wisely.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Bad news, Mike.

[00:00:29] [SPEAKER_01]: We've only got one episode of the podcast.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_01]: What's the good news?

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got one episode of the podcast.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's Mike and Mike go to the movies.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Incredible.

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Mike Smith and joining me as always is someone giving their regards to King Tut.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike to Chris.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_01]: How you doing today, Mike?

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Great.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That line my friends and I erupted when I was in Stargate anyway.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Great.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: How are you, Mike?

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that might have been the first time I've ever incorporated you into the intro in

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: some way.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it is.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It took eight years or whatever it's been and nine years and here we are.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Notorious anti-bit guy.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You got me to do a bit.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not big on bits.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't like to join in my songs whenever I do a musical intro.

[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But we made it happen so that's exciting.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exciting.

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on in the world that might decrease you?

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Not a whole lot.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I went to see King Gizzard in the Lizard Wizard which is a deeply

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: embarrassing name to say to people because you're like, there's no way they're going

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: to know who this is.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think you know.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you've seen them.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I've seen King Gizzard before.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, I went to a lot of concerts between the years like 2018 and 2021.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, not really in 2020 but like 2018, 2019 when I worked at the radio

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_01]: station and we get free tickets all the time.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And I definitely know King Gizzard came through Missoula.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I could have seen them.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely saw a lot of bands like King Gizzard in the Lizard Wizard.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of like Jam Band sort of thing.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But I can't say for sure that I've seen King Gizzard in the Lizard Wizard.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_02]: But you knew you heard of them, which is really the biggest

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_02]: familiar to kiddos.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So that was a lot of fun.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Much more of a kind of like a metal show than I was expecting.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So that was a lot of fun.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then I got an all night horror movie marathon coming up soon

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_02]: that I'm going to next weekend and I'm very excited for that.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to hear about it.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That includes Fright Night, right?

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And includes a couple of big titles, right?

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_02]: It's The Wraith, which is a movie I've never heard of.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But I remember Charlie Sheen or somebody or Corey Feldman.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's...

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like something like that.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: The blob remake Fright Night.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember what the fourth movie.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Mario Lucio Fulci movies in there, I think.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Dario Argento movie.

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's going to be a bunch of weird shit.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Last year I went, it was a zombie thon.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And this year it's just horror thon.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think there's an overriding genre or subgenre.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just horror stuff.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It's all on 35.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So it starts at 9 p.m. and goes till I think 6 a.m.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Incredible.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So that'll be a fun time.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping fingers crossed that the projectionist got some practice in between last year

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and this year.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_02]: If I remember, I talked about every single...

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Which you know, this is a lost art.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I totally understand.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to do this, but every single real change, which in 12 hours is a lot

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_02]: of real changes.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It was either late or early.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's either long enough that the screen went white, like late enough that the

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_02]: screen just went white or it came in and you were...

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_02]: You missed dialogue.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be fun.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that will be fun.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'll be a good time.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you're getting to do some kind of horror oriented thing.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_01]: While I'm going to be at the Campora Film Festival, which will be next weekend

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_01]: at the Roxy, which I think as this comes out, it'll probably be the weekend of.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm very excited about that.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be moderating a Q&A after one of the shorts blocks.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be going into both of the shorts blocks.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I've got tickets for everything now pretty much.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to the shorts blocks.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing the spooky stories in the garden.

[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm co-hosting Trivia at Oddpitch Brewing and I'm very excited for the two

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of main features, Santo and Blue Demon versus Dracula and the Wolfman

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and House in 35 millimeter, which is one of my favorite movies ever

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and a movie that I made Mike D watch many years ago

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: that I'm excited to watch on the big screen.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen on the big screen on 35.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be cool.

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's very cool.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I almost I literally after we recorded that episode last week or

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: ever with John, I almost went on the indicator website and bought the box

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_02]: at the Santo and Blue Demon.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's I think it's three movies, but they also have

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_02]: the movies like individually.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh, maybe I'll just get that one.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But I was like, actually, you know what?

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll save dollars.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I was looking at Santo's IMDB page and there are

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: at least like 33 movies that are called Santo and Blue Demon or Santo

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and Blank or Santo by himself versus this thing.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, one of them is like Santo and Blue Demon versus

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Frankenstein's daughter and like that kind of thing.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, excited.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Excited to see my first Santo movie.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It looks like a lot of fun.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a whole new world to enter and I found the I found the

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_02]: harrathon.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's it's The Wraith, The Blob from 1988, Fright Night,

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Dolls, the Stuart Gordon movie and then demons.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a Argento movie.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not directed by Argento.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's directed by his son, I want to say.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it might be.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it might be like Dario Argento presents.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like credited as a co-writer or something like

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But demons rules.

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a great time with demons and that's

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_02]: the final.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the like, you know, 4am to 6am movie.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_02]: That's got to be weird as fuck.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a great movie to watch in a theater.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it takes place in a movie theater and demons

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: was the very first movie that was shown for trash

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_01]: vaults at the Roxy.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Back in 2018, 20, it must have been 2019 I think.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it rules.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw demons for the first time there and changed my life.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It's terrific.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a great time.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's Lumberto Bava as the director.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Argento is involved.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there it is.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But all right.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But today, Mike, we made each other watch some stuff.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a classic case.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Once a month, me and Mike do this and Mike makes

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike watch where we each pick a movie for the

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: other to watch that they have never seen before.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And on today's episode, I am making Mike D watch

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Steven Spielberg's 2011 animated adventure film

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_01]: The Adventures of Tin Tin and Mike D in classic

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Mike D fashion is making me watch a Roland Emmerich

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_01]: joint.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Whoops.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Oops, all Emmerichs.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It was all Emmerichs, which I think this is the

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: third Emmerich movie that has been a makes Mike

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: watch.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You made me watch 2012, I think.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, 2012.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And then producer Colin did a guest makes Mike

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_01]: watch where he made us watch White House Down.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: A famously lost episode of the podcast.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, this time around you're making me

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: watch Stargates, which was really like Roland

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Emmerich's first kind of big hit.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: He did direct Universal Soldier in 92,

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: which I have also seen and it's pretty fun.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think Stargate was a pretty massive

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_01]: solid hit for him that then like led to Independence

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Day, which still has best film Independence Day.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It rules.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I had never seen Stargate.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd actually tried to watch it a long time ago.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if I've talked about it in the podcast yet,

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_01]: but we'll talk about that in a minute.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and you rewatched Stargate as well

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: for this episode, right Mike?

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And I rewatched Tin Tin.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's two months in a row where I did a

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_01]: rewatch of the movie I was making you watch.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Proud of you.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's a turn on a new leaf here on

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the makes Mike watch.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was mostly using this as an excuse

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to get to rewatch Tin Tin because I don't think

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually watched it since it was in theaters.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I've had the Blu-ray sitting on my shelf

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: for a long time.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, which of these movies would you like to talk

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: about first Mike?

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about Stargate first.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's do it.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for a Mike makes Mike watch.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They bury in quality.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_04]: It has been buried for thousands of years.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_04]: A mystery.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_05]: A secret.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: A threshold to the future.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Where'd you find this?

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen anything like this.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: One man will break the code and open the door.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this should read Stargate.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Probably in front of us the whole time.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: The other will lead the way.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Why are you here?

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm here in case you succeed.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Jackson has identified the seventh symbol.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Second storage.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Reserve power on.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: What is that?

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's your Stargate.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We've opened a doorway to a world we know nothing about.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_03]: The theme has locked itself onto a point somewhere

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_03]: in the Kaleam galaxy.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's on the other side of the known universe.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Your turn now.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_04]: They prepared for danger.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Begin final evacuation.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_05]: They expected the unknown.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Stabilizing system.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Initiating commencement sequence.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_05]: But they could never have imagined this.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: What a rush.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I hear and shoot anything that comes down that ramp.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Your job here is to realign the Stargate.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Can you do that or not?

[00:09:42] I can't.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: What the hell is going on?

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_05]: My orders were simple.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Track down signs of any possible danger.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_05]: While I bounce them.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't make it work without the seventh symbol.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: You got seven minutes.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Now the most amazing discovery of our time.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Jackson, wait for me.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Is about to become the most extraordinary adventure

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_05]: of all time.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Kurt Russell, James Spader, J. Davidson.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Stargate.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_05]: A Roland Emmerich film.

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That was from the trailer for Stargate directed by

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Rowan Emmerich from 1994 starring Kurt Russell

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and James Spader.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So, Mike D, why Stargate?

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you want to make me watch this film?

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You sound so sad.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Why in God's name?

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Why have you done this to me?

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So, I want you to watch Stargate because I didn't see

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: this movie until college and I knew about the TV spin-offs

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: which I was like, well, I didn't watch those

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's one of those things where you're like,

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: this is from a movie?

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The TV show definitely eclipsed the movie

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of cultural notoriety or anything like that.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Stargate SG-1 ran for like 10 years

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was like a sci-fi channel staple

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was on all the time

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and there were like three or four other Stargate shows too

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that were just also on all of the time.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember Stargate Atlantis

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_02]: but that's the only one I remember the title of.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know any other ones off the top of my head.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and Stargate Universe I think are the three main shows.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I didn't watch any of those.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Neither have I.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Neither have I.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: They were just always on.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They were just always there.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I would see them like when I was scrolling past

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: on my channel guide.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Another Stargate show, not watching that.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But I remember

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: just stuff to scroll past

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: but I remember in college I was at my friend's apartment

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and we had just picked up Thai food

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_02]: and then we got a little high

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and we're looking at their Blu-rays

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and she had Stargate on Blu-ray

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was like, what? Like the show?

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_02]: We went through that conversation

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and she was like, yeah, you never heard Stargate.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I love this movie.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, let's do it.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's watch Stargate.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So I watched Stargate pretty high

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_02]: while eating Thai food

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and it was the best Saturday afternoon

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I've had in a long time.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: So I wanted to bestow that upon you

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and I have watched the movie a handful of times

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: since then, maybe like two or three or whatever

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_02]: in the last 10 years,

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: which is insane to think about that college

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_02]: was 10 years ago.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think it's pretty good.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I usually have fun with it.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So I wanted to make you watch Stargate

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and I did not realize

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that I guess I'm a die-hard Roland Emberg fan

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: like against my will.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really understand.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things that last time we talked about

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: like, oh, what's next month's movies?

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, shit, it's another Roland Emberg movie.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, cause I think we were last month

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you made me watch the core, right?

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is very much in the vein

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: of a lot of Roland Emberg movies.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I made a joke about it or something

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and then, okay, all right,

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: what's next month that makes me quite sure

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: it's fucking Stargate.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So what did you think about Stargate, Mike?

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'll take it, I guess.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: What if we'll work my hope for it?

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I really appreciate,

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, we weirdly stumped a lot

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: for Roland Emberg on this podcast.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We have, yeah.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, partially because, you know,

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: we did talk about both Independence Day

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and Independence Day resurgence

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: on the Jeff Goldblum season of the podcast

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: on The Complete Works

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and we're both big fans of Independence Day.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that movie really holds up.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a really like, you know, it's like that pinnacle

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: of like kind of big dumb 90s action blockbuster, right?

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Foundational text.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Independence Day.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Movie rules and honestly,

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Independence Day resurgence,

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it's not good

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think it's better than people give

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_01]: the credit for maybe.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: There's some stuff that I liked in there.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, interesting.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember like being in the kind

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_01]: of voice of dissent in that episode

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: or being like, there's something here

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: a little bit, you know,

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: it's got a lot of problems

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know, there's some fun stuff.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think for the most part,

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I have kind of a love-hate relationship

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: with his movies

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think for the most part,

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think they are pretty dumb fun

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and we almost made it our mission

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_01]: to like stump hard from Moonfall

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: when that came out.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I still have the poster from Moonfall in my room

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: hanging up right next to me.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know,

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and Moonfall felt like kind of a return to form

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: for Roland Emmerich,

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of returning to that kind of disaster genre

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that he does really well

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and the kind of movie

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that you don't get to see that often

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_01]: in theaters these days.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't hit as hard as like twisters did.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Twisters ended up being a much bigger

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: like disaster movie hit

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: but Moonfall paved the way.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Plus also how far post, you know,

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_02]: vaccines and all that stuff

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_02]: that Moonfall came out.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know if movies in general

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: were back in a big way the way they are now.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Moonfall was 2022.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like early,

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: it was like February 2022 or something like that.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I think so, yeah.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah,

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Moonfall was a movie that I really enjoyed.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was dumb fun

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: in the same way that I thought

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: White House Down was dumb fun

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think 2012 I think is dumb fun for a while

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and then it's two hours and 40 minutes

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_01]: so it didn't really work for me.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Independence Day

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I think is like genuinely great.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Universal Soldier is really fun.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: DATCH tomorrow I haven't seen in a long time

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: but I remember liking it at the time

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah, I have now seen

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: thanks to this podcast

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_01]: most of Roland Emmerich's films.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple on here.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually still have not watched in full

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: the 98 Godzilla

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: which I know that's a big foundational text

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: for Mike D

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and several others on this podcast

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: so I wouldn't be surprised if that pops up

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: and Mike makes Mike watch down the line.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm regretfully putting this under duress

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm putting this on the list for next year.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if it stays.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, interesting.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Why under duress?

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You love the 98 Godzilla.

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I do love that movie

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's one of those things

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_02]: that like I can't in good conscience make.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody else watched the movie.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to enjoy this.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've never seen the 98 Godzilla.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen the Patriot either actually.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a Roland Emmerich movie.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The Patriot is a Roland Emmerich joint.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I have seen 10,000 BC

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: which is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I have not seen that movie.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot that existed.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's rough. It's real bad.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a few others here

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that I haven't gotten around to

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but for the most part

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like big action movie disaster stuff

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen most of it

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: but I had not seen Stargate.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I did try to watch Stargate a few years ago

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and basically I went

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: right before I left for Missoula

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_01]: like I was working at my office in New York

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the radio station

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and one of my coworkers

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: was getting rid of a bunch of her old DVDs

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember the story now.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And so I like walked into the lobby one day

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and there was this giant like pilot DVDs

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: that was just on the table

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was up for grabs

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's like oh my god

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: it's Christmas, this is Christmas Day.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to catch a Mike Smith, this is how.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was actually subpoenaed that day

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I was served

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I picked up a couple of good finds

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I got Ichumama Tambian on DVD that day

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: which was pretty cool

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_01]: but one of those DVDs was a Stargate DVD

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I took all these DVDs home

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and they stayed in my collection

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and I brought them all to Missoula with me

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: and like a full year or two later

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I was working through my Blu-ray collection

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: my DVD collection

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I landed on Stargate

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_01]: as like the next movie to watch

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm like okay here we go

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I take the DVD

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I open it

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's no disconcerting

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_01]: No!

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I had an empty Stargate case

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: that had no movie

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that I never bothered to open before

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: so I didn't actually notice

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_01]: that there was no disconcerting

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Amazing

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and so instead of renting Stargate

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I opted not to watch it at all

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Fair

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: but now I have seen Stargate

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know I think it's got some fun stuff in there

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it sort of suffers from

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_01]: some of the other problems

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I have with other Roland Emmerich movies

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: where it is too long

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: it's over two hours

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and I don't think it really sustains that length

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_01]: but I really enjoy

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_01]: the first half hour really reminded me of Independence Day

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: where it's just like a bunch of dudes in a room

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: working together for science

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Doing science

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's all science that's completely nonsense

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's delivered impassionably

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and that helps

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's cool

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and then I really like how bonkers and weird it gets

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: throughout the movie

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was something that has been a

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: a sustaining factor throughout

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: this Roland Emmerich journey that we've been on

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: is that we've really noticed like how much he likes to delve into

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: weirdo conspiracy theories

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: 100%

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's all there in Stargate

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's there

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it's still in Moonfall

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: where he's talking about how the moon is hollow

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's actually built by aliens

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and all that stuff

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know that's there in White House Down

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_01]: where they're talking about the secret tunnels

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: then those turn out to be real

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and Independence Day has Area 51 being real

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and 2012

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: all of this stuff

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_01]: all of these big disaster movies are all deeply into

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: the conspiracy theory element of it

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: and Stargate starts that I guess

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_01]: this is where it all comes in

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_02]: It is so funny that watching this movie

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_02]: and thinking about it like in the context of

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: the rest of his career

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_02]: that like oh yeah

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: here's James Fader

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_02]: giving a speech at a conference about some

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_02]: wacko theory that the rest of the scientific community

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_02]: has turned their back on

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_02]: like it was like oh my god

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it's been it's been here the whole time

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's one of those conspiracy theories where it's like

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: the Egyptians didn't really build the pyramids

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: it might have been aliens

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_02]: This is where they got the idea for History Channel

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: for ancient aliens

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_02]: just right here in Roland Emmerich's movie

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and so

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed Element of Stargate

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty solid

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't love it as much as other

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Roland Emmerich joints

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think the action is pretty cool

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the dynamic between

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Spader and Russell is pretty fun

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think weirdly Kurt Russell feels

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like a little miscast to me

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_01]: and that feels off

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: only because I really associate Kurt Russell with like

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_01]: a pretty cool like a laid back kind of persona

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You know

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and in this movie he is the uptight army guy

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_01]: His hair has never been so flat

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got the flattest top that's ever been cut

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's truly the first time you see him

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: he has very long hair

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's mourning the death of his son

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_01]: which is like you find out that information

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: in the most like inelegant way where

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Just the worst ADR there's ever been

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's such an insanely dark backstory

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: for that character too

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: because you see Kurt Russell

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like sitting alone in his

[00:20:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Gonna kill himself I think

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He has a gun

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like sitting alone in his son's bedroom crying

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and like these two guys walk up to the door

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and they talk to his wife and he's like

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: oh we're trying to see Kurt Russell

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's like oh maybe you can talk to him

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever like it's clear that their marriage is strained now

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think you could have gotten like

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: just from the context of Kurt Russell sitting alone

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: in his son's room that like his son died

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Like if one of them just saying like

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry for your loss sir

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: or like anything other than what they do

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like just having like that would have been enough

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and then like when they meet him and then leave

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_01]: they're like oh he seems like he's in a record whatever

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like yeah his son died

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: his son got hold of a gun and accidentally shot him

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah anyway let's drive out of the movie now

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're like whoa

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But when you see him he has like the very long hair

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's disheveled

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and then the next time you see him

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_01]: he's extremely clean cut

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: very short hair

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's almost like a jump scare

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it feels like

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah this isn't my Kurt Russell

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: This is not my beautiful house

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_01]: This is not my beautiful Russell

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and it is a weird like

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: so they go through the Stargate

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and they meet the civilization

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and one of the things that happens

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: is the civilization like grabs the guns that the military has

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and Russell's whole thing is like

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: they can't have the guns

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and it seems like it's because of that dark backstory

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: where he believes that

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: where it's like because my son

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: accidentally shot himself with like the gun

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: that was in my house

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: we can't give these people guns

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: but I don't think you needed the backstory

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: in order for him to be like

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we shouldn't give these people guns

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes I know

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_02]: It's insane

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking because we watched

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I watched the director's cut

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I wondered if that was the director's cut scene

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's not

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay yeah I mean the backstory

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah no that's in the theatrical

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I believe I watched the theatrical cut

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_01]: which is the one that's streaming for free on 2B right now

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_01]: which is how I watched it

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah so I mean

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kurt Russell's good in the movie

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: it's just like it feels like off from his usual persona

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily a bad thing

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: but it feels like he's like sort of playing against

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: what he is comfortable with

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_01]: and then James Spader is also

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: like a little

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: they both seem a little off in this movie to me

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's an alternate universe

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: where their roles are switched

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and it sort of makes sense

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah I can totally see that

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but I do like James Spader

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_01]: as like kind of the crazy archaeologist

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: who's going into all these insane theories

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and all that

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah I like the idea of the Stargate

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and like everything building up to like them

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: going through it

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really great

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, I can't express the like

[00:22:36] [SPEAKER_01]: joy that left out of my mouth

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: when it turned out Richard Kind was in this movie

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I saw you tweeting about him or whatever

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: recently and I was like it must be because of

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Stargate

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: He's so funny in this

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the two scenes that he's in

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he's great

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: he's like the linguist who is replaced

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: by James Spader essentially

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah I think all that stuff is great

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and then yeah when they go through the Stargate

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and they are in this sort of like

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like an ancient Egyptian

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_01]: nether dimension or whatever that

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_01]: they've taken them to

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and so looking for civilization

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and they find it up

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but then like the ancient Egyptian gods

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_01]: like come down and like they are fighting them now

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's bananas

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a wild time

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it for the most part

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah I think it's okay

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: it's wild to me that this movie

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_01]: launched a 10 season TV show

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: multiple spin-offs

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I think sequels I assume to the movie

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_02]: right there must be sequels

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a couple of direct to video sequels

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but never a direct sequel to this movie

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_02]: okay

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_02]: but yeah it's wild that the franchise

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_02]: you know is just built on

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_02]: what if the stars had a gate

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_02]: you know and it works

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it works somehow

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I don't know

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it was one of those things I think

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_02]: just being so blown away by

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_02]: like they're going for it

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_02]: which is sort of the whole

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: thing

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_02]: the driving force behind the role in Emmerich

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Uvara is just like yeah we're gonna do it

[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_02]: you know like this practical sets

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_02]: the scene at the beginning

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_02]: not at the beginning actually

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_02]: when they finally cross the

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you go to Stargate

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and they're looking for

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_02]: civilization and James Spader follows

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: those footprints in the sand

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah and he finds the like

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Wampa thing or whatever

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a real fucking thing they built

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: it looks incredible

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_01]: it looks so good

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was just

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: drags him through the sand

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah he gets tangled

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and by the unleash

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_02]: they run off to the desert

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_02]: but yeah it looks amazing

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was just like

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_02]: we would never forget what they took from us

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_02]: is what I'm saying about Stargate

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that's how desperate we've gotten

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and truly like when

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: they arrive at civilization

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and they meet everyone

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_01]: there are like thousands of extras

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: that are just like actually there

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: partaking in the film

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and this movie has a really strong

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: sense of scale

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that I think is rarer

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: in modern movies these days

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think it's something that Roland Emmerich

[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_01]: really excelled at as a director

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess he excelled at

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_01]: he's still very good at it

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Moonfall has that

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it does

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_01]: it really feels like

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: what if the moon fell

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_01]: you know what would happen

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_02]: it feels like the world is tearing us apart

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and then this earthquake

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_02]: splits the aisle down the middle mic

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: in 2012

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember yes

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and the couple

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: is moved apart by the earth

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a visual metaphor

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: cinema baby

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what I'm looking for

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't know if Stargate has that level stuff

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's fun

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was high

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and I really liked it

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it's the first time

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and that is fair

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I don't really know too much about the TV shows

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: like as far as what they do

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_01]: to continue the story or whatever

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: after you watched Stargate

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean did you end up watching any of the TV stuff

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: or did you just step to this?

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to besmirch

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: the perfect memory of Stargate that I had

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_02]: but I guess they must be good

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_02]: like I don't know

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_02]: like you said there's ten seasons of them

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a couple different

[00:25:49] [SPEAKER_02]: subspin offs and stuff

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_02]: so that's fun

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean obviously the movie is

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: heavily dealing with like ancient Egyptian imagery

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think the TV show also goes into that at first

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think it like kind of travels to other dimensions too

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I assume it's like a sliders situation

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: let me just keep going to different alternate planets and stuff

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: probably yeah

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: also wanted to mention French Stewart is in this movie

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_01]: he's one of the military guys

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: as a real bastard too

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_01]: yes, yeah

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: he like pushes James Spader down

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and also Zyman Hunsu plays one of the Egyptian gods

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that's right

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, yeah

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: so that was fun

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_02]: that's cool to see him

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, I don't know

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Stargate

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: you know by the time we got to like the last half hour of the movie

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty ready for it to be done

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: but at the same time

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_01]: like the action is pretty fun

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's got a weird like

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a very pro military movie I think

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, it's also a big white savior thing going on

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_01]: absolutely, yeah

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that's got a lot of stuff

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_01]: also part of it

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_01]: there's elements of it for sure

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: that feel like I don't know about this

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: but ultimately

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate the swing

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, I appreciate how big it goes

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad I finally watched it

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: just to fill out the filmography of Roland Emberich

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and truly Kurt Russell's line at the end

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: when he beats up one of the Egyptian gods

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Anubis

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: it's not even the main dude

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: it's just some guy

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: right, it's just some guy

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: he says yeah, give my regards to King Tut Asshole

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: great, love that

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and a cut in half with a teleporter thing

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_02]: rules

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and then James Spader stays behind

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_01]: he stays behind with civilization

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: he found people who respect him

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_02]: is this just trashy dune?

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is just trashy dune

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: it's a little trashy dune, yeah

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: the white guys come and arm an insurgency

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_02]: for the natives to overthrow their

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: president of god government

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: if a sequel were to happen

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: it would be called Stargate Messiah

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: it would have been about how James Spader turned out to be like

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: the Adolf Hitler of this race or whatever

[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: right

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: awesome, love that

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah, any other Stargate thoughts

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: that you wanted to throw out there Mike?

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: anything that you wanted to mention?

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_02]: not particularly about Stargate

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but I watched this with a couple friends

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_02]: in the discord that I'm always talking about

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and one of my friends said that he saw this

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_02]: in theaters when it came out

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_02]: and he was like obsessed with it

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_02]: and he was like got on VHS

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_02]: and they watched all the time

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_02]: so he was having a real like nostalgia trip

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_02]: when we were watching it

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_02]: so that was very fun

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: and then similar

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_02]: thought feeling about Kurt Russell

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_02]: in this movie

[00:28:11] [SPEAKER_02]: where I was like this is

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: it does feel weird that he's

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: like I said, flattest top that's ever been cut

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_02]: right he's a weird by the books

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: gotta follow the mission military guy

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_02]: so we immediately just followed it up with

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a palette cleanser

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and our Kurt for Kurt Russell breakdown

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_02]: a movie that I had made you watch a while back right

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: yes

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_02]: love this movie

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and yeah

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: my two friends had never seen it

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was like you ever want to see Kurt Russell

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_02]: just be the most wife guy

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_02]: like a normal wife guy

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and they were like what

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was like we're watching breakdown

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and we just started

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_02]: just started it

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a blast

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and I just really want to pitch breakdown again

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: or plug breakdown because that's a great movie

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_01]: yes

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen it in a long time

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: but I saw it for the first time

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: like two months before I showed it to you I think

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: at the Kurt Russell marathon

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: at the Elmah Draft House

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: right back in Nunkers

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: which that was back when Justin Liberty used to program it

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: it was a mystery Kurt Russell marathon

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: it was five movies

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_01]: you were supposed to go

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: did I get the flu or something

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: you were sick or something

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and so you couldn't make it

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: which was a bummer

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: but me and Nick Wormath went

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_01]: friend of the pod

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Nick Wormath

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_01]: we watched five Kurt Russell movies in a row

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_01]: we didn't know where they were going to be

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and breakdown was number two

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_01]: breakdown was the second movie

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and I had never heard of it before

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and it completely blew my mind

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it was like a full on five star movie for me

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: like I loved it so much

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: it was so great

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_01]: that was a great marathon

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it was also

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: used cars

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: was in there

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_01]: executive decision

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: was also in there

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_01]: escape from LA was the last movie

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: oh and Tango and Cash was the one that started it

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: it was Tango and Cash

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: breakdown used cars

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: executive decision

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: escape from LA

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: that was the five

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: nice

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: what a marathon

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and four of those were new watches for me

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I had seen executive decision before

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but the other four I had not seen

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and it was

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_01]: all really fun

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean escape from LA

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: it was fun to watch with a crowd

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_01]: especially like a crowd that was expecting

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_01]: to see escape from New York

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like that was like

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: classic vague

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and then they were very confused

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: when

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: cause they would also show trailers

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: for Kurt Russell movies before

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: the movie play

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_01]: but they showed a trailer

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: for escape from New York

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: before escape from LA

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and everybody's like

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: wait a minute

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: no

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: no

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: but it was a lot of fun to watch with a crowd

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: he surfs in that movie

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: he surfs

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a good time

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: anyway Stargate

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: did not watch it in the Kurt Russell

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_01]: marathon

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: did not get to see it

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_01]: four years ago

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: because it turned out I didn't have the DVD

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: but I finally got to watch it

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: thanks to Mike D from Mike's Mike Watch

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's what it's all about

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what we're here for

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_02]: that's what this whole series is about

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_02]: yes absolutely

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: sharing what we love

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: with the other person

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and speaking of

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_01]: it's time to talk about

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: our other movie from Mike's Mike Watch

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_01]: the one I made you watch this week Mike

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: which is

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The Adventures of Tintin

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_05]: you think you realize this

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_05]: but you're about to walk into a whole mess of danger

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_05]: for you

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_05]: what secrets do you hold

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_05]: let them escape

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_05]: that's Tintin

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: alright that was from the trailer for

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: The Adventures of Tintin

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: directed by Steven Spielberg

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: produced by Peter Jackson

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: co-written by Steven Moffitt

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: released in 2011

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: stars Jamie Bell

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Andy Serkis and Daniel Craig

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: among a few others as well

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah Mike D

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: you had never seen

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The Adventures of Tintin

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_01]: correct

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_01]: but the reason I wanted to make you watch it

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it was partially because

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_01]: it gave me an excuse to watch it again

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: this is a movie that I saw twice in theaters

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: when it came out

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I really really loved it

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and as you know

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big Spielberg guy Mike

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_02]: you're a noted Spielberg

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: noted Spielberg enthusiast

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know we've talked about Spielberg

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot recently on the podcast

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_01]: because we did our Jaws episode

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: for Roy Scheider

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know every once in a while

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_01]: we've talked about Jurassic Park

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_01]: in the past for the Goldblum season

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think we've reviewed

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe a couple of Spielberg movies

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_01]: on Mike and Mike Go to the Movies

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: or film book cast

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_01]: back in the day

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a bridge of spies

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_02]: we did an episode on maybe

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think we definitely did

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: a bridge of spies episode

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say we probably did

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: a ready player one episode

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_01]: did you see ready player one

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: no I haven't seen that

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: okay then I guess we didn't do it

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I think that was post-film

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_02]: book when we were doing new movies

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: right

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: right right right

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but in any case

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: we've talked about a few Spielberg

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: movies over the years

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_01]: but this is one that I really like

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and I've always thought it's like

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of a forgotten

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: or underrated Spielberg movie

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_01]: you know when talked about

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of Spielberg's

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: big blockbusters

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: or adventure movies

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you know everyone talks about Jaws

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Indiana Jones

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Jurassic Park

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: all that stuff

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: this one never really gets brought up

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and maybe it's because

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's an animated movie

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: maybe it's because it's

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_01]: a more recent addition to the canon

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it is

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think it rules

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it absolutely deserves

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_01]: to be in the conversation

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_01]: with those films

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I wanted to make you

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_01]: watch it Mike so you can

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_01]: join my cult of Tintin

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and so yeah

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: what did you think

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_01]: of the adventure of Tintin?

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah I had never seen this movie

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember when it came out

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_02]: and I feel like I have a memory

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: of like this movie having

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_02]: a reputation of being bad

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and I don't really know

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: where that came from

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: but I like I thought this was

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_02]: a bad movie

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_02]: or known as a bad movie

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: okay

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_02]: so when you picked it

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and you were like riding hard

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_02]: for it I was like oh no

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: what am I gonna play this off

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it looked in letterbox

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's like five stars

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: four stars

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_02]: four and a half stars

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: from all the people I follow

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like what?

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_02]: so when I finally got around

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: to watching it

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah it's a ton of fun

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_02]: just to get right to it

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a blast

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but I feel like maybe the first

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: 10 and 15 ish minutes

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I was kinda like

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_02]: like it's good

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's interesting

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's all that stuff

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm not really sure

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and then just at some point

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_02]: it just kinda won me over

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know when

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe it's when the captain

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_02]: gets introduced

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_02]: which is maybe like

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_02]: halfway through the movie

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I was just like oh okay

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in actually

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on board

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and I just like had a ton of fun

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah I think this is a

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_02]: really great late Spielberg

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: can we even say that

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_02]: if he's still making movies

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: 20 years all this time later

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: it's about 13 years after

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_02]: 10 now

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: late stage

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah late stage

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Spielberg I guess is the way

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: to say it right

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I think when you're 40 years

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_01]: into your career

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: late stage feels apt

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_01]: it feels appropriate

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_02]: so yeah I mean

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a really fun time

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and I would love to know

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_02]: if you I'm sure you probably

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_02]: have some of the

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_02]: like behind the scenes stuff

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: because I

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_02]: is it motion capture

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I assume

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know how they

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: made this movie

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_02]: but that is definitely

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: part of it

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_02]: because I remember

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I never saw Polar Express

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: but I was like why does

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_02]: everyone hate that

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_02]: but love this

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: because I assume

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a huge quality

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: difference

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: because I've never seen

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Polar Express

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: but I was like

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: this feels like

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: the same thing

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: right and it's going on

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: so but

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and just in terms

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: like the actual

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_02]: visual of the animation

[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's got all

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_02]: the Spielberg directorial touches

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_02]: which I think is like

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_02]: one of the coolest parts

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_02]: about this movie

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_02]: is like

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_02]: you can feel that he

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_02]: you can tell that he feels

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: like free

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: you know

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_02]: he's just like

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_02]: in the spirit

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: he's in the flow state

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's just like

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: going wherever

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_02]: he wants to put the camera

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_02]: and it sometimes feels

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: like overwhelming and weird

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: and though

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_02]: like well I can't process

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_02]: this fast enough

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_02]: like my brain

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: because I'm over 30 now

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_02]: so everything's going to

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_02]: be a little slower

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: but

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_02]: but it feels

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: like really fun

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and vibrant and stuff

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I think

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I think maybe like

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_02]: when it really gets

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: past the

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: pick pocket Thompson

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_02]: and Thompson

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_02]: stuff in the first

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_02]: 15-ish minutes

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: because I was like

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_02]: oh if this is what it's going to be

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_02]: broadens out into the bigger

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_02]: adventure stuff

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was like

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_02]: oh hell yeah

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_02]: this is an uncharted movie

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean this is

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: a much better uncharted movie

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_01]: than the actual

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: uncharted movie

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: which came out two years ago

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: 100%

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_01]: heartbroken that you didn't

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_01]: like the Thompson and Thompson

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff because

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_02]: they all go up in the other parts

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_02]: but like when they seem to be

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: like they're the main

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_02]: like this is going to be

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_02]: the main plot for

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: 10 minutes

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: like it's not very long

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: into the movie before

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_02]: the other shit is

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: unveiled

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_02]: but I was like

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_02]: okay like Thompson

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and Thompson's funny

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_02]: but like an hour

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: and a half

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's so funny

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like halfway

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_01]: through the movie

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: when they enter

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: the home of the wallet

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: thief

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: not realizing that he's the pick

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: pocket and it's just

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_01]: a full room

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_01]: of just wallets

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: just wallets

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_02]: alphabetically sorted

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's just like

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: thousands of wallets there

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're not picking up on it

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: oh and the guy

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: like things he's caught

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a kleptomaniac

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's like what does that mean

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: it means he has a fear

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: of open spaces

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_01]: like oh that must be

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: like he's his wallet

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: separated

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_02]: keeps him in the living room

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_02]: so funny

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I think the movie

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: has such energy to it

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_01]: and part of that

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_01]: is Spielberg's direction

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: which does

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: hearken back to

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_01]: so many of his movies

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but like also

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: like it does feel

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_01]: like he's having

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_01]: so much fun

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: just getting to play with animation

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: this is the only animated film

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: in Steven Spielberg's filmography

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and it is one where he is

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: like he's really free

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: to just move the camera

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: wherever he wants to

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and also just do

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever he wants to

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: like any

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like there's this

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: insane set piece that happens

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_01]: like an hour and a half

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: into the movie

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_01]: this like kind of one take

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: sequence

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: where Tintin and Haddock

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: are like on this

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like kind of runaway

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: car that's like

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: going down the

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: like this downhill thing

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: where like

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: buildings are exploding

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: around them

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and all this stuff is happening

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's like slapstick comedy moments

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and like action beats

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: all this stuff

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and you have to imagine

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: if this was a live action movie

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and you tried to do

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: just that sequence

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_01]: it would cost

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: $150 million

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_02]: although it is basically

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_02]: the opening to police story

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_02]: of the Jackie Chan one thing

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: that is also true

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_02]: but you'd have to do it

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_02]: in you know 1980 Hong Kong

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_02]: where there's no safety rules

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_02]: there's no right

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah in police story

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_01]: it costs like $15,000

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever exactly

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah Spielberg's having so much fun

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the script is really sharp

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and inventive

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and really funny

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and that is partially

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: it's Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_01]: co-writing it

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_01]: which when this movie came out

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: obviously huge Spielberg fan

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and also

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a huge Edgar Wright fan

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: still am

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: but that was like

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_01]: the height of me being a huge Edgar Wright fan

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that was the year after

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Scott Pilgrim

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: first at the World came out

[00:38:31] [SPEAKER_01]: you understand

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_02]: baby you can't be more

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: of a Edgar Wright fan

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_02]: if you're Mike Smith

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly yeah

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and Attack the Block came out

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the same year too

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_01]: so it was produced by Edgar Wright

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and directed by Joe Cornish

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_01]: who also co-wrote the screenplay

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and this was produced by Peter Jackson

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and the thinking was

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: like this would come out

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and they would eventually make

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: like a trilogy of movies

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and Peter Jackson

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_01]: was going to direct the second one

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and Spielberg would have produced it

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and then they would have co-directed

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: the third one together

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: that was like the plan

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: the dream

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and for whatever reason

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it didn't happen

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the movie

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: didn't do well in the US

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe that's why I thought

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_02]: it was supposed to be a bad movie

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_02]: like what the pop culture

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_02]: consensus around this movie is

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_02]: other than that

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess nobody remembers it really

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I mean the weird thing is

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_01]: like so Tintin as a character

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: is very well known

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: outside of the US

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_01]: like huge books internationally

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: especially in like French-speaking territories

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and France and Canada

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Tintin's huge

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_01]: people love Tintin

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: never really made it to the US

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like you can get Tintin books in the US

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: people can read them

[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_01]: but it was never like a cultural phenomenon

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: like it was elsewhere

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I think that's part of it

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean this movie did do pretty good overseas

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_01]: but just the US box office

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think really tanked it

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Tintin's

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: total cultural footprint

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: in the US

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_02]: is that one panel

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_02]: where captain says

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: what a week

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_02]: and Tintin says

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_02]: it's only Wednesday captain

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's posted every Wednesday on Twitter

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's really it

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_02]: like I think you know

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_02]: see I didn't

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea what you're talking about

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: never seen that

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a similar joke on 30 Rock

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: which has a similar

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's that joke

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it's only Tuesday

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever it is

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah like Tintin's

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: like a recognizable character

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: everywhere else except for here

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and so I think that's also part of it

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: no the movie just

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess didn't make enough money for them to kind of

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: go move forward with the sequel

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: but they were still talking about it for years

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and it just hasn't come together

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a bummer

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_01]: because it would be really cool

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: it would be really cool

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: to see the story continue

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: at the same time

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like that this is just like

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_01]: its own insular thing

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: you know

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah I fear there's the

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: potential for Pope's exorcist

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_02]: to end in the same way as this

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_02]: where it ends on

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_02]: you're ready for the next adventure

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_02]: and we'll never see it again

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_02]: which is sad

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_02]: because I think that hook at the end

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_02]: where he's like how's your thirst for adventure

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and Hattuck says unquenchable

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think is what he said

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_02]: it's so good

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and then they like run out the door to get

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_02]: it's like fuck yeah let's go

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_02]: what a blast

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_02]: what a blast we could have had

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: yes absolutely

[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I also wanted to mention

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean when this movie came out in 2011

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: this was like December 2011

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and there was another Steven Spielberg movie

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: out that year

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: which was War Horse

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: which I liked

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I liked War Horse

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was pretty good

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_02]: it couldn't get further apart from

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: exactly but you know it's one of those things like

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Spielberg does this every once in a while

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_01]: where he has two movies that come out in the same year

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and the big one that everyone talks about

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: or that we talk about a lot is

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, both 93

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Jurassic Park, biggest movie ever

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Schindler's List, Best Picture with the Oscars

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like that was just unbeatable year

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: right and he did it a few other times

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: he did The Lost World in Amistad in 97

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: 2002 had Minority Report

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and Catch Me If You Can

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: in the same year

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: 2005 he had War of the Worlds

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and Munich both coming out in the same year

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: so whenever he does it

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_01]: it's always like a blockbuster

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: and kind of more like a Ward Seasony drama usually

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and then 2011 it was the Adventures of Tintin

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and War Horse

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: but it wasn't just they were coming out in the same year

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: they came out within five days of each other

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Tintin was out December 19th or whatever

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and War Horse was out on Christmas Day

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like it was like

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That's wild

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was a big week for Mike Smith back in 2011

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you choose? What do you do?

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And I really really preferred Tintin at the time

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and still do

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen War Horse once

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was pretty good

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's not one that I'm going back to anytime soon

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah I think this movie is great

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think the animation still holds up

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a little curious about how it would look

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and I do think it looks a lot better than Polar Express

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_02]: That was just the only thing I could think of

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_02]: because I've never seen that so I don't know

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So it is motion capture

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a combination of motion capture

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and regular computer animation

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: and all that kind of stuff

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_01]: but it is motion capture

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think Polar Express is entirely motion capture

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: and doesn't stylize the characters enough

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to get rid of the uncanny valley

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they are stylized a little bit

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_01]: but it's more going for a not realistic necessarily

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: but kind of

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_01]: whereas the adventures of Tintin

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: does a pretty good job of

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: there's an element of realism to the character designs

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_01]: but most of the characters have

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty exaggerated features

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_01]: you know big goofy noses

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: or ears or whatever

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: that kind of makes you

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_01]: like this is a cartoon

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm watching a cartoon

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: and it delves much more into slapstick background gags

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_01]: than Polar Express does

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: so I think it helps you with that disconnect

[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: where I think the movie looks really good

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: because there's no uncanny valley for me

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: because it's not close enough to human

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_01]: where the uncanny valley would be a problem

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_02]: There's actually a really I thought

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_02]: very clever moment right at the beginning of the movie

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_02]: where they're in the market

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_02]: or flea market or whatever

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_02]: when Tintin's like posing for the his portrait

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and it turned around and it's like the comic strip

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_02]: or the book art style, right?

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is fun

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: that's a fun little metanod thing

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I like that

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_02]: but Tintin gets up and he's walking away

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and he sees his reflection in the mirror

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and he like mats down his like cowlick thing

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_02]: and keeps walking

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and I was like oh that's sort of annoying

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_02]: that's one of those like

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_02]: no this is a real

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_02]: you know like we're looking at the comic book version

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_02]: but then as he continues to walk

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_02]: his cowlick slowly pops back up

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's like oh okay

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_02]: that's just like to me that felt like a weird

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_02]: like no we're acknowledgment of

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_02]: no we're still doing the comic book shit

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and then the movie does the comic book shit

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: does the cartoon stuff

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_02]: so that was really I thought really clever

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_02]: and then like put me at ease a little bit

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: because I thought it was going to be like a weirdly

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_02]: grounded to take on Tintin

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_02]: you know I don't know I've never seen it

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and I thought it was supposed to be bad

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_02]: so

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_02]: but I thought that was real

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_02]: that was a real like you know

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Spielberg touch I thought

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah definitely

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and so this is drawing inspiration from

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I think three different like Tintin comics

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_01]: the crowd with the golden claws

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the secret of the unicorn

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and red rachom's treasure

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_01]: secret of the unicorn's kind of like the bulk of it

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: but yeah and so it's drawing inspiration

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: from those three and I think like

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the fact that it's animated

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and the fact that it's kind of combining

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: three different stories

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: is interesting to me

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: because Spielberg had tried that

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: years earlier he was going to make Harry Potter

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: What?

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Before like Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: happened like the movie happened

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Spielberg was like approached about it

[00:44:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think he was attached for a while

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and his plan was to combine the first three books

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and make it an animated movie

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Wild

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and if that had happened

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: if Spielberg's Harry Potter had happened

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: instead of the like ten year long live action series

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that we happen where each book got adapted

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: into one movie

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: like what would the world be like

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_01]: what how different would the world be

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah maybe JK Rowling

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: wouldn't have turned out the way she turned out

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_02]: That's possible

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's entirely possible

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_02]: She could have like landed on the moon or something

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_02]: like anything could have happened

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_02]: That's wild

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_02]: No wonder though that him and Jackson

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_02]: maybe have creative differences

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: considering Jackson took one book

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_02]: and turned it into three movies

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to take three books

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and turn it into one movie

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the timing of

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_02]: is the hobbit what Jackson ended up doing

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually yeah I think the first

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: hobbit movie was like the year after Tintin

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 2012

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah it was like around then

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I think they got along pretty emically

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I think really the way Jackson kind of came on board

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: actually is because of his work on Lord of the Rings

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and King Kong and stuff

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: when Spielberg kind of first started developing Tintin

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and he was interested in motion capture

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He like contacted Peter Jackson

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: to ask if like if it was possible

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: that Weta could do this

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Makes sense

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said yes

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and they got to work

[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_01]: so I think he didn't know how to

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I'm sure if he wanted to get in contact with Weta

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_01]: without Peter Jackson

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Steven Spielberg probably could have

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: but he kind of went to Jackson

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and like is this an actual thing that like

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: could sustain a movie

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_01]: can we actually do this

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and they kind of started working together

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and said yeah Jackson produced

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_01]: and the plan was for him to direct the sequel

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and it never came to be

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a little bit of a bummer

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah I think what I like most about this

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_01]: is even though it is like you know

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_01]: an animated movie

[00:46:33] [SPEAKER_01]: it does feel like it has

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_01]: all the Spielberg touches

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Even just like you know

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the blocking

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: which you know is an animated movie

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_01]: theoretically there shouldn't be

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: like you don't have to worry about that

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_01]: it's all still there

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Also the transitions in this movie are amazing

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I just saw like

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_02]: the morning I watched this movie

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_02]: there was going around on Twitter of course

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_02]: a like what's your favorite

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: what are some of the best transitions

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: you know one of those engagement bait tweets

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_02]: and then I watched this

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_02]: and there's one transition

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_02]: after that whole crazy scene

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_02]: with the downhill car chase

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: and the eagle and all that stuff

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_02]: when they like drown haddock

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_02]: or throw haddock in the ocean

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_02]: and and Tintin dives in after him

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_02]: the camera goes into the bubble

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that comes up

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's the reflection of Sacherin

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it pops

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and then it's the city skyline

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and the camera goes into the bubble

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_02]: and like into the sky like

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: that's the wipe between scenes

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like this is fucking amazing

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_02]: and then there's a hilarious comedy beat

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_02]: at the end of that

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_02]: where it's this tank has been

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_02]: stuck in the facade of a building

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: and it finally breaks through

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_02]: and immediately drives off

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: the end of the pier

[00:47:31] [SPEAKER_02]: and the guy's just like

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_02]: oh no

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I guess they go what

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_01]: it's hilarious

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes yeah that's so good

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's so many comedy beats

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_01]: like that throughout the movie

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_01]: and I also like that this movie

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: you know even though it is

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: an animated movie

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: that's like geared towards kids

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_01]: there's you know

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: some violent stuff

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_01]: and like so

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: really adult theme

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's dealing with

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_01]: haddock's alcoholism

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: throughout the movie

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and that's kind of

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: a running joke for most of it

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: but there is like a

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: sincere like sadness

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_01]: in everything going on

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: with any circuses performance

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_01]: which is I think

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_01]: a really incredible one

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_01]: and also like

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: there's gunfights

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: that happen

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_02]: People dying this movie

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it's weird

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: that this movie has

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_01]: like the Nickelodean logo

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_01]: beforehand

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Right forgot about that

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah there's two scenes in particular

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_02]: that really made me laugh

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_02]: one is a very quick dialogue thing

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_02]: where it's after they've been thrown off the

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_02]: boat

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what the name of the boat is

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's haddock in Tintin

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's begging him

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_02]: to remember his family's

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_02]: legacy right

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_02]: the story his grandfather told him

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's like

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_02]: my memory's not what it used to be

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Tintin

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's like

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: was it better?

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember Tintin

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I've forgotten

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I've forgotten

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_02]: like oh well

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Chef's guess

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: very good

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: and then this scene earlier

[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: where Tintin has to sneak into

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_02]: the like cruise quarters

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_02]: to steal the keys

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: and he's like as long as you

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: and then his haddock is like

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_02]: as long as you don't wake up

[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: this guy you'll be fine

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_02]: well actually as long as you don't

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: wake up this guy

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_02]: and it's just showing each one of them

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: is like a worse and worse scoundrel

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: like sleeping with

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_02]: diet daggers

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and all that

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: and this shark

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: just hanging from the ceiling

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_02]: very tall

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And throughout that whole scene

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_01]: like they're like sliding all over the place

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah yeah cause the boat's rocking

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very funny

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes yeah absolutely good stuff

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah I think

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Jamie Bell's really fun as Tintin

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I think Andy Serkis is incredible as haddock

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Really great

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: like you know his performance as Gollum

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_01]: is obviously big

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_01]: and like his performance as Caesar

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_01]: in the Lord of the Rings

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_01]: or in the

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_01]: the Lord of the Rings movies

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine Caesar in the Lord of the Rings

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say he would have defeated Soran easily

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So fast

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah his performance as Caesar

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: is like you know one of those things

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_01]: where you like look back on

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like that's

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: it's so towering

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that like the new plan

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_01]: of the ace movie without him in it

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_01]: like has to spend an hour being like

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_01]: man Caesar what a guy

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: What a guy

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it's a whole friend

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_02]: a whole 10 years later

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_02]: sequel about how cool that was

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how cool Caesar was

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he's an incredible actor

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and like motion capture

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_01]: has been like his

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: sort of bread and butter

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like what he's kind of like delved into

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and has done such an incredible job with

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think yeah Tintin is

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: not talked about as much as other performances

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but I think he's absolutely as good

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_01]: in this movie as he is in the

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_01]: plan of the Apes or the Lord of the Rings

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I want to read

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Io Etterberry's letterbox review

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah because it's incredible

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: From October 2022

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Io says

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I like the motion capture Tintin movie

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Now what?

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Andy Serkis is so good

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Daniel Craig too

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the score

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I love the action sequences

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_02]: especially that big marketplace set piece

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Wow

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Which is the one we were talking about

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_02]: that whole downhill thing

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_02]: And I love Snowy

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I wish the sequel wasn't caught

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_02]: in development hell

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see Peter Jackson

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_02]: send that nosy ass boy man

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_02]: to Jamaica so you can meet a character

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: named Rasta Blackman

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_02]: or some shit

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Which the names in this are very funny

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_02]: like Sackarin and all that good stuff

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the weirdest part for me

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: was Tintin

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Like they couldn't decide how much of a boy

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_02]: his design should look like

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_02]: his face almost felt like it moved the least

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I suppose what they call that

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: is the uncanny valley

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but I don't know what the heck

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about by the way

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just having fun on this website

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_02]: called letterbox.com

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever heard of it?

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mostly agree

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I think letter

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Tintin is designed

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_02]: is really weird like I said

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_02]: that the hair thing

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: put me at ease a little bit

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: but I feel like he is the least exaggerated

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_02]: He looks the most like a normal person

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: compared to everyone else

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: who has big potato noses

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_02]: or weird beavers

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_02]: and stuff like that

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's offset

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_01]: by the fact that his best friend

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: is a dog

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_01]: that is the coolest dog of all time

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Greatest movie dog

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Snowy is the best

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and it gets right into the adventures

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: which is so fun

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do love how much of the shenanigans

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_02]: is directly caused by Snowy

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_02]: running out of the scene

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_02]: to chase something

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_02]: and be like, oh shit, Snowy

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_02]: and that's how we get into the action

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that scene where Tintin gets kidnapped

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_01]: and Snowy has to chase him through the streets

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_01]: is so fun and wild

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and he jumps out the window

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: when he's jumping on these different cars

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and all that stuff

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's just a tiny dog

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and it's one of these things

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: you could never do in a live action movie

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_01]: it would look insane

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, cause the live action movie

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_01]: would have to be like a CGI dog

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: right, it would have to be a CGI Snowy

[00:52:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So you might as well

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: if you're gonna have a CGI Snowy anyway

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_01]: just make the whole movie animated

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and there you go, you're done

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Get over it

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Any other random Tintin scenes

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that you wanna mention Mike

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_01]: anything else that stands out to you

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I really liked the

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_02]: just in general

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_02]: the like globe trotting nature of it

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: like it really feels like

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought for a split second

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, is that the Indiana Jones theme

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: that they're playing

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a little hint of it somewhere

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: in the score

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Just a little touch of it

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean yeah, it is John Williams doing the score

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think this is one of his like best recent scores

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Like in the last like 10 years

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: he's great

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really good

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that whole

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_02]: just the vibe of the globe trotting

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_02]: treasure hunt adventure thing

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_02]: which yeah, uncharted Indiana Jones

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_02]: it's all the things

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think a better Indiana Jones movie

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: than the last two Indiana Jones movies

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely the last one

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen Crystal Skull in a very long time

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but I'm sure this is better

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big Crystal Skull defender

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You are, that's true

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: as you know

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_01]: but I do think this is better than

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Crystal Skull

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm really glad you made me watch Tintin

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_02]: because I definitely would have never watched it

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_02]: because I thought it was bad

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was supposed to be bad

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I thought this was like a

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_02]: not reviled but like

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_02]: whatever

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_02]: kind of movie

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_01]: but turns out the shit rocks

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it's awesome

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's such a perfect like

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of confluence of several of my favorite creators

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of coming together

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_01]: with Spielberg and Edgar Ray

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and Peter Jackson and all that stuff

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_01]: and yeah, I think it's such a fun

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_01]: adventure action movie

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_01]: that people should watch

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_01]: An underrated gem in the Spielberg filmography

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I would agree

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad you enjoyed it, Mike

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I was terrified that you wouldn't

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I know we talked about

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_01]: that the last couple

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't particularly connected with

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad here's one that I can

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_02]: get really on board with

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, well I think that's

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: gonna wrap up this episode of Mike Makes Mike Watch

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember what year

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: September movies gonna be for me, Mike?

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe the horror movies

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_02]: begin

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't remember

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Because yeah, the last couple months

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_02]: they're all horror movies

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Let me see

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting there fast

[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting there eventually

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I believe you

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Here we go

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_02]: We're there

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_02]: 28 weeks later

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited about that

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I should be watching

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_01]: 28 days later to prepare

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And then now we'll be ready

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_02]: for 28 months later

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_02]: or whatever they're making there

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They're skipping ahead to years

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They're doing 28 years later now, I think

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Daniel Boyle's

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_01]: back to direct 28 years later

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, babe

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And Alex Garland's back to write

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: 28 years later, which is also

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: surprising

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But 28 weeks

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I know Boyle produced

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and I think he maybe co-wrote or something

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: but he didn't direct 28 weeks

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It was somebody else

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was Juan Carlos

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Frinedillo

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Frinedillo

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what else he directed

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but yeah, I'm excited to see

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen 28 days later

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_01]: a couple of times

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What was that, Mike?

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Director of Damsel

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_02]: that Billy Bobby Brown

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Netflix vehicle from last year

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Earlier this year

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I vaguely remember a thumbnail

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: but I never watched the movie

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me neither

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I've seen 28 days

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: a couple of times

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: but not in a very long time

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and I've never seen 28 weeks later

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_01]: so yeah, I'm excited to watch that one

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good call

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll really like it

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice, I hope so

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I am making you watch Brazil

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Terry Gilliam's 1985 film Brazil

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_01]: which just played at the Roxy

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_01]: for Sci-Fi Summer

[00:55:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was gonna go

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and then didn't have the chance to

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: but I do have it on Blu-ray

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It was actually the very first

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Criterium Blu-ray I ever bought

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_01]: was Terry Gilliam's Brazil

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_01]: A blind buy

[00:55:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I had not seen the movie then

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and I didn't like

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know about the

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, the half off sales

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that happened twice a year at that point

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So I bought it at Barnes & Noble

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: for like 40 bucks

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Damn

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's pretty great

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I really love Brazil

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long time since I've watched this

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_01]: so I'm definitely gonna try to

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_01]: do a re-watch of that one again

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_01]: before the episode

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really trying here, Mike

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to do these re-watches

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_02]: That's okay

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You do so much homework

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of the pod

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if there's a time

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_02]: when you don't do that much homework

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_02]: it's okay

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is fun to do the re-watches too

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: because I'm making you watch these movies

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and most of them are ones

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: that I haven't seen in a long time anyway

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Right

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's fun to be able to re-watch them also

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and Streets of Fire

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_01]: which I made you watch last month

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm playing Next Month at the Roxy

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: for Inferno of Danger

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll be watching it again

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm excited about that

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_02]: In a theater? That's cool

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_02]: It's exciting

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm pretty stoked for it

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I finally got fake bands, real bangers

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_01]: off the ground at the Roxy

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_01]: which is my series dedicated to

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: fake bands in movies

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and so we're doing almost famous

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Blues Brothers, Walk Hard

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Josie the Pussycats and Scott Pilgrim

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and then I'm playing Streets of Fire

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_01]: for Inferno of Danger

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and also for Trash Vault

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: we're showing Wild Zero

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_01]: which I have not seen

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but it sounds insane

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_01]: pretty excited about that

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We're also showing

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Amadeus and Purple Rain

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: throughout the month

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So Amadeus, not about a fake guy

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_01]: real guy, Mozart

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Ever heard of him?

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Ever heard of him

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And Purple Rain

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's technically Prince

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_01]: but he's not playing Prince

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_01]: He's playing the kid

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think it still kind of

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: counts into the fake bands

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Technically, yeah

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a music heavy month

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: at the Roxy

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm pretty excited about that

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But alright, that is Stargate

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That is The Adventures of Tintin

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and that is

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