Sinister (2012) / The Blob (1988)

[00:00:23] Hello and welcome to the podcast that will send a gelatinous purple monster after anyone being obnoxious in a movie theater. It's Mike and Mike Go to the Movies. I'm Mike Smith and joining me as always is a true crime writer who has made the extremely wise decision to move into the house that the victims were killed in without telling his family. Mike DiCruccio How you doing, Mike? I'm doing just great. Don't regret my decision to move my family into the house where murders happened at all.

[00:00:51] So I think and I think, you know, one of my favorite things about your decision, Mike, is that when your wife asked you point blank, did we move into a house near where the murders happened? You said no, because technically that was true. Technically, it's true. You did not move into a house near where the murders happened. You moved into the house. Yes. Everyone knows the best thing to tell your wife is technically true information. What's going on, Mike? How are you doing today? I'm doing good.

[00:01:19] It's another, you know, it's Halloween time, baby. It's, you know, this week as we're recording this is scary times. So, yeah, I've been finally getting into some horror movies besides the ones that we're talking about today. So that's been pretty fun. I caught up on Onslaught. Oh, the new Adam Wingard joint. Yeah. Yeah, which was fine. I think I'm with most people in that I wanted to like it a lot more. Yeah, same. It's definitely got really cool stuff going on. Like I love it. Definitely. If it was like 10% better, we'd be talking about it a lot. Yeah.

[00:01:49] I think. And I think it being two hours is maybe part of it. You know, I feel like. Is it a full two hours? Is it a full two? What am I thinking of if it's not? Hold on. Wait. But anyway, I think it takes a long time to get to the cool shit. And maybe that's part of the problem. There's not enough of the cool shit. Yeah. I would agree with two hours. I know what movie I'm thinking of. That's two hours. I was going to say, I'm pretty sure Onslaught's like 90 minutes. It is 90 minutes. You're right. No, it is. But it feels like two hours. It feels like two hours, I think. It's the problem. Because when it does the super soldier shit, it's like, hell yeah.

[00:02:19] Yeah, yeah. This is the coolest stuff ever. But I don't know. It's like just miss, whatever it is. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. What was the other one that you were thinking of, Mike? What was the other movie you were thinking of? The other movie is the new hotness on Shudder right now called The Cycle. Okay. I haven't seen this. Which stars Debra Ann Wall. Wall. Correct. From Daredevil. From Daredevil. Okay. And friend of the show, Jeffrey Donovan. Okay. We're a big burn notice pod. Sure. No.

[00:02:49] That's more one side of this podcast. But yeah. If I liked it, they're friend of the show. Yeah. Fair enough. But it's a sort of serial killer kind of monster-y type movie, maybe, possibly. Ooh. Ooh, what's happening? Yeah. Okay. But where Debra Ann Wall is a investigator person that works at the body farm, which is like the FBI or one of the, I don't know if they're the only one that have these kind of things, but where they study decomposition.

[00:03:16] Like, and so they have bodies in different underwater, buried, not buried in different states of decay. And so that helps them solve cases and stuff. Yeah. Um, and she gets brought in by Jeffrey Donovan, who's the local police somewhere where a just disgusting, brutal double homicide happens. And also there's a third body there, uh, that doesn't match, is not part of the crime who happens to be Debra Ann Wall's estranged father from 30 years ago. Okay. And so it's like, whoa.

[00:03:44] Like, and it pulls them down sort of in this, you know, dark twisty investigation, murder stuff going on. Yeah. Um, and it's pretty cool. And it takes a psychotic turn in the best way, uh, in the last like 20 to 30 minutes. And you're just like, no way this is happening. Like, like you have that realization, like 30 seconds before the thing is happens. And you're like, there's no way they're doing it. And then they do it and you're like, yeah, this is awesome. But that's the two hour movie that feels like, man, if this was 90 minutes and we got to this

[00:04:12] it, like I'm fist, you know, fist pumping 30 minutes or 20 minutes earlier, I would be like all timer Ruby. Uh, but the investigation stuff is fun. It's a procedural. And I like that kind of, you know, dark twisty, turdy procedural killer thing. Um, so it's still pretty good. Still really, still really good. But I was like, also a just missed could have been all timer type movie. Um, but that just hit shutter like last week or this week, I think, uh, called the cycle. Okay. I hadn't heard much about that, but, uh, cool to hear about Debra. I'm while somebody who I feel like every once in a while, I'm like, oh yeah, she's great.

[00:04:41] Like she's great in like escape room and stuff like that. Uh, and then every once in a while I'm like, what is she doing? Uh, and I think part of that is in the new daredevil seasons, which you haven't watched yet. Right. Are you, you're probably not going to get around to them. I would imagine. Uh, but you were a big fan of the original series on Netflix. Of course she plays Karen page on the show and, uh, the new daredevil kind of had a weird like workaround thing where like the first season she's only in like the first and last episodes. Like she's not crazy. Yeah. It was a weird choice. I mean, it either like commit to it or don't kind of, right. Yeah.

[00:05:10] Sort of what I felt like, but they ultimately like bring her back as a main cast member in season two. Okay. And she's good. I liked Debra Ann wall. I think she's a good Karen page. Um, but season two of daredevil especially felt really weird, but like every time it cut back to Karen page, it felt like Debra Ann wall was like out of breath after just having done like a kickboxing like training just got done running up the stairs. Like, yeah, it's just like every single time. That's so funny. And every time it cuts back to her, Karen page was always like just finishing like training

[00:05:38] at the box, like, you know, doing, doing boxing or whatever. And then like also like having to do investigative journalism. And, uh, yeah, it was a weird, it was a weird choice. Uh, after like the 10th time it happened, I was like, we got to find something different for Karen page. Please, please. Was she from true blood or something too? Right. She wasn't true blood back in the day. Yeah. Which, uh, I've only ever seen one episode of true blood. Uh, and I think it was like a random season five episode because my girlfriend at the time was a big fan of the show and I happened to be at her house when the new episode was airing. So we watched it. I had no idea what was going on.

[00:06:08] I was real confused. Nice. Yeah. I didn't really watch it either, but I remember I did a couple summer session things in college where like, you know, do like six weeks, summer classes, crash course kind of thing. Yeah. And, um, my roommate for one of those was huge true blood. And I don't remember if it was like the last season or whatever it was, but he was like, bro, true blood. And he was just like, would watch the DVDs all every time. Okay. All night, every night. And I was like, yeah, sure. Whatever. Whatever.

[00:06:35] So for like six weeks, I pretended to be really into true blood just to like, I don't know, I got to live with this guy for six weeks. Like whatever. Sure. Yeah. And it seems cool. Like I'm sure if I had watched all of it, you know, or actually started from the beginning and paid attention, it might be fun. Yeah. So you didn't tell him that you hadn't seen the show. No, I did. Just, okay. Yeah. But he was like, well, I'm on season three of my rewatch. So like, whatever. And I was like, all right, yeah, cool. He wasn't going to start over. He wasn't going to start over. No. Gotcha. So I was just along for the ride. Yeah. So that's my brush up with, uh, with true blood. Fair enough.

[00:07:05] Today we are not talking about true blood, Mike. No, we're not. That is not one of the things. What if one day for a Mike makes Mike watch, we picked like a full series. Just a whole show. Just seven seasons of true blood. You got to watch before the month is out. We'll check. Yeah. We'll check back in at six months and see how this is going. Uh, yeah, no. Today it's a Mike makes Mike watch. Uh, it's our monthly feature, uh, in which I make Mike D watch something he's never seen before. And, uh, he does the same for me. He makes me watch something that I've never seen before. Uh, and it's our October spooky edition.

[00:07:35] We got two horror movies, uh, in the mix today. So today on the podcast, I'm making Mike D watch the 2012 horror film Sinister directed by Scott Derrickson. Meanwhile, Mike D is making me watch the 1988 remake of the blood. Bob, uh, directed by Chuck Russell. Yeah. So yeah, very excited to dig into both of these movies. Mike D, which one of these do you want to start with? Um, you know, this is a pretty tough, a tough, uh, double feature. I think, uh, because it's like one, they're both kind of nasty. Oh, one's very nasty and one's pretty nasty. Um, sure.

[00:08:05] And one's more, I guess, you know, there, there's no like light and silly one to end on is I guess where I'm going with this. One is definitely sillier. Sure. Yeah. I think there's a more fun choice to, to be the ender one. I guess is my, between the two. Yeah. Yeah. And this is the order I watched them in, but it was a kind of tough bummer to come out of Sinister and then be like, and also there's another movie to watch, you know, the way that movie ends. Um, so, but let's do Sinister first. Okay. Yeah. Let's do it. It's time for a Mike makes Mike watch.

[00:08:34] I hope they choose right. Mike's watching Mike's movie. Especially. Whoa. It's watching Mike's movie. What you are witnessing are the murders of five families captured on film. To this day, none of the cases have been solved.

[00:09:00] The only thing that connects them is the appearance of this figure. The ancient church believed he actually lived in the images themselves. What is happening? Trevor. Sinister. All right. That was from the trailer for Sinister. Uh, of course, uh, directed by Scott Derrickson, starring Ethan Hawke in the lead role.

[00:09:27] Also starring people like Juliette Lewis, Fred Thompson from Die Hard 2, uh, as well as, uh, Vincent D'Onofrio making an uncredited cameo via Skype. He's uncredited. That's crazy. He's uncredited. Yeah. I mean, he has like two scenes in the movie. He's professor of exposition. Yep. And, uh, you know, just gets to tell everybody about the ghoul and all that stuff. But yeah, he's, he's entirely through Skype. Never appears on screen outside of that. All right. Sinister. I think the reason I wanted to make you watch this bike, uh, a, I had not seen this movie

[00:09:55] since it came out, uh, in 2012, but I remember when it was coming out in 2012, the hype was real around Sinister. I don't know. Uh, so you never got around to seeing it, but you were aware of like, Oh, people were talking about this like a big, like it was a big deal. I guess you weren't really into horror movies that much at the time, right? That's, that's what I was going to say. This was a right around the cusp of when I was like, Oh, actually I'm brave enough to watch a horror movie. Um, so I didn't go see this, but I remember this being one of the, you know, big buzzy kind of like super fucked up, like, Whoa, you handle Sinister kind of thing. Yep.

[00:10:25] Uh, it has grown a pretty big cult, I think, uh, by now. So, so kind of building on that. So obviously when it was coming out, it was being billed as like, this is the scariest movie of all time, which at the time I was like, Whoa, this is probably the scariest movie of all time. Now I've seen hundreds of other movies use that exact same campaign. The greatest marketing, the impact of that has lessened for me a little bit, but at the time it really felt that way. And a lot of the reviews were really strong and stuff. So I was very excited about it and I went to go see it and really liked it. I thought it was really scary, really intense, very fun.

[00:10:55] I hadn't seen it since 2012, but like the culture in this movie has kind of grown to the point where I believe it was in 2020. There was some kind of, uh, like study that was taken that named Sinister, the scariest film ever made. Wow. So they weren't lying. It was a study based on the analysis of viewers, heart rates. They kind of just picked like a ton of big horror movies, you know, classics like the exorcist and all that stuff in terms of measuring viewers, heart rates. Sinister is the scariest movie ever made as of 2020.

[00:11:23] Now who, who's, who's to say, you know, if it's actually, you know, it's all subjective and all that kind of stuff, but according to heart rates, that's, that's what it is. Sure. Uh, and so, yeah, it's kind of developed a cult, cult reputation. It was a big like early movie in the Blumhouse run in 2012. It was, you know, it was Scott Derrickson and a C Robert Cargill, uh, was the co-writer of this who I knew C Robert Cargill as a film writer. He used to write him like, ain't it cool news and stuff like that. Uh, so it was cool to see him kind of like break into a, you know, feature filmmaking in this way.

[00:11:52] And yeah, I, and I was also a big Ethan Hawke fan. So that was excited to see him in a horror movie, which he ended up doing a few times over the next few years. He was in the purge next year, uh, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Anyway, all that is to say, uh, I did end up rewatching Sinister for this podcast. I did have the time, uh, which was great. Um, but I'm curious what you thought, Mike D since, uh, now we've set up the, set up the idea that Sinister is the scariest movie of all time. Uh, what did you think of Sinister? Yeah, I really liked Sinister. I had a lot of fun with this movie.

[00:12:18] So I had, uh, like I said, I was familiar, broadly familiar just like with the movie and stuff, uh, and that it was like about snuff films and, or something like that and all those things. Mike D famously big fan of snuff films. Uh, huge snuff guy. Um, and they had, that dates back to when we talked about eight millimeter and you were like, Oh hell yeah. I think it's about snuff. It's just so fascinating. Uh, you know, red rooms, short, you know, but, and this is a lot of fun. This was also, I think I mentioned last episode or something recently in the last couple of

[00:12:47] years, shutter did like a hundred one or a hundred scariest movie moments countdown thing, uh, which we're always lamenting the lack of for like, you know, give me the best movie quotes, countdowns, give me that kind of stuff. So it was really fun to watch that. And one of the snuff film moments from Sinister was on that list. So that was, I had seen that moment. I'd seen that one section, but still very effective. Uh, still really scary and cool. So I had, but I had never seen the whole thing. So I was glad you finally did make me go back and actually watch it.

[00:13:15] Cause I don't know if I would have ever, you know, it's got a cult, but it's not like a classic gotta watch Sinister. And like the second one is supposedly not that good. So it's not like, well, I'm going to watch all the purge movies. I got to go back and watch the whole thing. You know, it's like, eh, whatever, you know? Yeah. I've, I've also not seen the second one. I've heard it's not very good, but I was researching like what that movie was about. And apparently, uh, the deputy in this movie, uh, James Ransom's character, he is the star of Sinister 2. Oh, that makes sense. I guess.

[00:13:41] So it's like, I guess it is continuing the story of this movie in some way, just from that, the cop's perspective. Oh, cool. That's actually kind of interesting. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll give it a try someday. Um, but yeah, Sinister is really fun. I think it's the Ethan Hawke of it that really makes it like sing for me is like what makes this so cool. Cause yeah, I don't know necessarily off the top of my head. Um, like you said, purges the next year and all that stuff black, he does black phone, which is a reteam of these guys. It's Scott Derrickson and see Robert Cargill again.

[00:14:09] Um, like he, he, I feel like he's dove more into genre since this movie. Um, and then of course, when he's a kid, he's in genre stuff, you know, explorers as a genre movie, you know, his first movie. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, not a horror movie necessarily, but you know, genre sci-fi. Um, sure. But when you think of Ethan Hawke, I think you, uh, for me, I think of like the Richard Linklater stuff. Exactly. 100%. You know, he's, you know, he's the before sunrise guy, he's boyhood, all that stuff. I mean, there's other stuff like training day, uh, in there as well. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah.

[00:14:37] So, but like to just, and then sort of pivot in his sort of, you know, elder statesman years kind of into these sort of movies, uh, or his transition into that elder, I guess he's now in elder statesman years, but, um, uh, and so yeah, he lends that sort of gravity to this kind of movie, which is interesting. You know, there's a, there's, this could be just schlock and it certainly has a lot of that going on, but it's elevated so much by Ethan Hawke, uh, bringing his serious drama stuff to the family relationships and the, the, the marital problems and all that.

[00:15:07] Uh, I really buy it, uh, in this. Um, and I recently watched, uh, rewatched poltergeist again too. And it, that like, that was making, uh, sinister was making me think of that. Like how much that movie is about the family, about the, the marital problems, the relationship between them. Um, and, uh, the, like, you know, I think there's a three line there. Uh, the haunted house sort of kind of, uh, yeah, absolutely. So yeah, sinister is really cool. I don't know. Scariest movie ever. I was certainly pretty scared. There was plenty of jump scares.

[00:15:35] I was watching it with some friends and we were having fun hooting and hollering and stuff. Uh, I, I would, I didn't know it takes the demonic turn. Like I didn't know that's what was like the supernatural stuff. Uh, so you didn't even know Bagul was in the movie? No. All I knew was he's a true crime writer. He comes across snuff films and it's sort of like, I thought it was his like descent into the serial killer or whatever, like whatever the mystery, which is what the movie starts out as, uh, you know, he's got the red string connecting cork boards. He's doing the whole thing.

[00:16:01] Uh, like, like this at the beginning of the cycle, like I was talking about, like, I love that shit. Procedural investigation, serial killer stuff. That's great. And then he, he makes that pivot to Dr. Exposition when Vincent Odofrio shows up and he's like, yeah, it's a ancient Sumerian, uh, demon. It's like, we're going to get the Necronomicon out. What's happening? Like we're one step away from that. Uh, and then yeah, just pivots into full supernatural demonic horror stuff. And I was like, whoa, that's so cool. Like I was not really, I had no idea that was what this movie was. Wild.

[00:16:28] I'm glad that, uh, was, uh, preserved for you. That's a, that's surprising to me. Which is so funny. Cause then I was thinking about it afterwards. It's like, oh yeah, the, the poster is like a face made out of blood. Like in the, what did I, I don't even know what I thought that was like never connected that it would be a demon. It's a really detail oriented serial killer. Yeah. That's what it is. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No, rewatching sinister was a lot of fun. I mean, it's, it's, I think it's still a pretty scary movie.

[00:16:58] There are a lot of fun jump scares. I do think the ending shot is pretty dumb. The, uh, when the ghoul jump, which is one of those, like a paranormal activity does the same thing. It's just like, that was like a classic Blumhouse move around that time was just like one last, one last, like the audience. I mean, I think it's, it's fine. Yeah. I think it's just really silly that he bends over out of, from out of frame. Uh, cause like, you know, like it's the scream. He even says like with all one final jump scare, you know, hold on, you know, kind of thing. Yeah.

[00:17:28] And it's a trope in every movie, you know, since like Carrie or whatever. Uh, sure. But I think it's just so stupid that he's like, blah. Like he literally is doing like jumping. Yeah. It reminded me of those old like YouTube screamer videos. Yeah. That's exactly what it was. A hundred percent. The thing, the one video where it's like, oh, if you look closely at the car, you can see like a spirit, like the car commercial one. Do you remember that screamer? Yes. Yeah, I do. It's like, there's like a little wisp of a cloud that, that drives alongside the car, uh, just, you know, long enough for the, then the face pops up.

[00:17:57] Uh, yes, that's exactly what it is. You're a hundred percent. Um, so yeah, I think that's a little bit silly, but, uh, I think for the most part, that's a, it's a very intense, scary movie that is also, I think, funnier than I remember it being. Um, you know, there's a lot of like, you know, there's a lot of humor kind of injected in this part of it is like baked into the actual premise of the movie, which as we mentioned before, Ethan Hawke's a true crime writer who moves into the house that, uh, the victims were killed in. Yeah. And you know, his family doesn't know about that.

[00:18:24] Uh, and I feel like I didn't realize how silly and fun, funny that was when I first saw the movie in 2012. Uh, but watching it now, I was like, that's it. That's kind of an insane idea for a movie. Uh, and it's an insane premise for this guy to be doing that. Um, but the movie does a good job of like painting his desperation of like, I gotta have one last hit, you know, I got one more good book. It's going to put me on easy street, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That it's been 15 years or whatever since his first breakout smash hit that, you know,

[00:18:53] put him on the map and his next two books like have kind of failed and they think he got stuff wrong. Uh, they kind of talk about like he, I forget what, if he got somebody guilty out of prison by accident or something, like they say something about what he got wrong with the evidence. I forget. Um, or an innocent man sentenced to whatever it is. Um, and so like, yeah, he's desperate. They're broke. He, and he needs, you know, he's, he's gotta get one more in them. This could be my chance at a book award or whatever he says to his wife.

[00:19:19] Uh, and so this movie, the house comes up cheap on the market cause it's the murder house. And he's like, well, we can afford this. Uh, so yeah, no, I think the movie, like, I believe the, the thought process for his character that he would decide this is a good idea. Like it makes sense to me. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. But, and it's, it's just so funny how like unhinged that, like that becomes over time. Like how everybody's like, that's insane. Like, did you tell your wife? And he's like, well, no. You're like, why? Yeah.

[00:19:48] And, and when the wife like almost gives him like an out at the beginning where it's like, just please tell me we didn't move two houses down from the murder house. And it's like, we did not move two houses down from the murder house. Right. Right. I can truthfully say we did not do that. We're not two houses away. Yeah. And then when she finds out and it's like, we, we are living in the house where the murders happened. It's like, no, they didn't happen in the house. It was in the backyard. It's like, where the kids play.

[00:20:15] I mean, I love like how just psychotic it is because the, the movie never really sets up the time. I mean, I guess it's modern time, right? Like they never really say when it is. I don't think. Yeah. I think it's supposed to take place in 2012, but it feels like it's an older thing, I guess. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And, and they have the, cause the movie starts with the, the super eight footage of the family being hanged. Yes. And, and the, uh, the tree branch being cut as like a, a pulley lever to pull them up and hang them. Yeah. Which is really great.

[00:20:44] Like just disturbing imagery to start the movie off on. Terrifying. Really creepy. And it's in slow motion and stuff. It's like, what the hell is happening? Um, but then they, Ethan Hawke, uh, opens the curtain to the back window. It is looking out at that tree with the tree branch still hanging off it. That was cut off. It's like nobody came and ever cleared that cut off limb for away from this tree. It's so strange. Um, so that made me, and, and I'm saying that because the super eight footage looks like it's in the seventies or something.

[00:21:12] And I guess that's the super eightness of it all. And then here it is in the contemporary times and the tree branch is still there. Uh, so it just made me be like, Ooh, weird. You know, and it's that sort of otherworldly quality of all those, the super eight footage that he's watching. Yeah, absolutely. Plus it's like a small town, uh, in Pennsylvania or whatever. Right. And it's just like, you know, there's like 10 people who live in this town. Everybody knows everybody. And it just feels like it's a very antiquated place. But yeah, I also really liked, uh, his relationship with the deputy. I forgot about that in the, you know, and watch the movie again.

[00:21:42] Like they, they have a very fun relationship where deputy so-and-so is like what the character is credited as cool. Uh, cause I don't think you ever find out his actual name. Uh, and he's just like, he's a big fan of Ethan Hawke's from his first book ends up being like, listen, if you need like a guy on the inside to help you out and I can help you out and all that stuff. And, uh, yeah, they're very fun. Yeah. I like the, the whole conceit, like, cause Fred Thompson shows up while they're moving in, you know, he knows who they are and gives them the sort of like small town sheriff. Like, you know, you shouldn't be here. We know who you are, whatever.

[00:22:12] Trying to run them out of town sort of. Um, cause he knows if they, if, if this guy's here, that means he's here to investigate. Well, and then plus it's this famous missing person's case with a girl and stuff. So like, he knows he's here to investigate this true crime. And so that's why when he discovers the snuff films, he calls the police, but ultimately hangs up because he doesn't want them to run him out of town or he doesn't think they'll help him or whatever. Cause he's already been, had this encounter. So I liked that, that like, it kind of, we get the story, we get a reason for why he

[00:22:40] doesn't go to the police, which I think a lot of times you would just spend the movie being like, well, why wouldn't you just call the cops? You know, like at this point. Um, so then when the deputy so-and-so stuff happens, it's like, oh, this is actually, I liked how he turned out. He starts out as like a putz, right? Ethan Hawke sort of tricks him into like, once he says like, you know, you get a deputy so-and-so you always like, you know, acknowledge deputy so-and-so's hard work and stuff. And like, you know, if you need a guy and he's like, well, there is a thing, whatever,

[00:23:07] you know, and he sort of like is feels like you're getting, he's getting one over on the deputy, but then the deputy, like, you know, it saves the day or quotes, even though it doesn't work out, but like he gets them all the information. He connects all the dots. He's the one that figures out the families are moving out of the other houses. Yes. Yeah. He's the smart one, uh, which I think is really interesting. Like it really pays off that he's not just some like fan boy. He actually is a good investigator, right? Which is why I'm kind of interested in seeing Sinister two now, which I, you know, hadn't, uh, hadn't seen before.

[00:23:35] What would you say was the scariest moment of the movie for you, Mike? What was something that, uh, uh, struck you as, as particularly scary, particularly scary. Um, I mean the, the biggest jump scare is, uh, is the one that was in the shutter countdown thing, which is one of the snuff films. It's the, the lawnmower one, um, where, you know, in the snuff films, it's various people dying in horrific ways and stuff. And, and one of them is, is, you know, they're all filmed in a super eight camera. So it's like really shaky and weird.

[00:24:01] And then it's just a, a, a lawnmower being pushed across a lawn at night in the rain. And all of a sudden, big gigantic needle drop, uh, you know, like whatever strings sting as all of a sudden there's a person there and they run over the person and it's horrific and terrifying and so scary, but that feels like the cheapest jump scare. Cause it's like that interesting. I mean, it's really good, but it is just because it is so loud and out of nowhere and terrified and like, sure. Yeah.

[00:24:25] You know, but the best scare for me is when it's Ethan Hawke and he's, he's starting to digitize the things like he's filming them with his camera, you know, with a digital camera so he can zoom in and pause and do all this stuff. And he, and he zooms in on Bagul's face in one of the videos on his laptop and then he stops and he's doing, I forget what he's doing. If he's calling somebody or he's reading something off and he's like turned off to the side of his laptop and Bagul in the, in the laptop turns and looks at him and that shit scared.

[00:24:55] That got me and all my friends were like, wow, like that was the most effective like scare. Um, but the biggest jump scare is the lawnmower one. I think, you know, of course. Yes. I think, uh, rewatching it and this is a scene I had like basically completely forgotten about, but rewatching it, I think the most effective scene for me, there's a scene where I, it's like maybe halfway through the movie, like, you know, periodically throughout the movie, Ethan Hawke will hear something, go bump in the night and go investigate in the house. Right. It'll be like, Oh my, I guess I should go check that out. What's this? I better investigate. Yeah. I better check this out.

[00:25:24] And one time it's like, you know, his kid and like he thinks he's sleepwalking or that kind of thing. Right. Um, but there's one like scene where he gets up and like, there's like these ghost children, uh, that are like kind of just messing with them. Like they'll like run off, like he'll walk somewhere and then a kid will run behind him and then he'll turn around and that kid will be gone. And then as he has turned around, like a different kid will be like behind where he was. Yeah. And that was a pretty fun sequence. It's a little silly. It's a pretty funny, but it's like, it's creepy as well. Yeah.

[00:25:54] And then, and then he goes in to check on his daughter and he sees his daughter sleeping in the bed or where he thinks he sees her sleeping in the bed, but she's turned away from him, but she seems safe and all that stuff. Uh, and it's like, okay. And he like closes the door, turns like walks away and the camera pans over and you see the daughter is wide awake, shaking and terrified. And it kind of keeps panning over and you see on the wall, there is a kid staring at the girl, uh, and just covered in like the bagul tattoos and all that stuff. Uh, and just feels like a little like motion to her.

[00:26:23] And that got me, that was really effective. That's creepy as hell. Yeah. They're like the ring or the grudge, which I think it's like, they gotta look like the grudge kid or whatever. Um, yeah, just ghostly, I guess. But yeah, that scene is effective too. Cause it is sort of like a Scooby doo prank. They're pulling on them. Um, a little bit. Yeah. But they move in this weird slow-mo different frame rate thing going on. They just look so different and otherworldly compared. As if they've been caught inside video for the last several decades or something. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's so scary. Uh, so, so underving at least.

[00:26:53] So yeah, I think, I think the way this movie does, does do that reveal like that pivot where it is just a true crime guy uncovering potentially connected murders. Yep. Uh, and then it's like, there's this weird symbol painted on the walls and all of them. And what could that be? And you better talk to the guy at the Institute or whatever, uh, doctor physician. Uh, and so cool that it's Vincent D'Onofrio. He rules. He's great. Yeah. Great. Well, I love to have him Skype in for, uh, anything. Yeah. Just have him appear via Skype for any movie and you're good. Yeah.

[00:27:22] To do, to do demonology stuff or whatever. Uh, yes. And it rules. And then, and then it's like, and then, yeah, we're just fully into supernatural ghost shit by then. Yeah. And then of course, uh, the end of the movie, uh, in which, uh, you know, the prophecy has been fulfilled basically. Uh, you know, now it's, uh, you know, the, the, what they have essentially discovered is that each like murder is from, is everybody who moved into one of those houses was previously in a house that somebody had been murdered in, I think. Right. Was that the, yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:50] Each victim had lived in the house where the previous murder was. So right. Like there's a chain of, of people moving out of the murder house to then be murdered in the next one. Right. And so the next house is now the murder house where like that chain then continues. Yeah. Uh, and so of course at the end of this movie, Ethan Hawke's finally like, all right, we're moving out of this house. We're out of here. We're getting out, getting out of here. Uh, so weirdly if they hadn't moved, they would actually probably be safe. They wouldn't have died. Yeah. I mean, they'd probably still be creeped out all the time. Yeah.

[00:28:17] Like the ghost would be, the ghost would be trying to get them out of the house so that they can continue their murder spree. But, uh, if they hadn't moved, they probably would have been fine. Uh, instead of what happens, they move into a new house. Uh, I think it's probably like the same house they came from originally. Yeah. That's what they said. They go back to their old house. Yeah. And then, uh, the Ethan Hawke's daughter, the little girl ties everybody up and kills everybody. Uh, and then gets captured by the ghoul and goes to be a demon in the, uh, in the projector, uh, with all the other super eight kids. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:43] I mean, it's like the, I was thinking also, uh, uh, poltergeist too at the, at the end when the deputy calls them and he puts the, he's the one that's put together that like you've the, it's the chain, you know, it's everyone who they lived in the previous house of the victim, the house of the previous victims. Um, and he's like, you just moved out of the house. You're the next link in the chain, which is the same way. He's like, you move the headstones, but you kept the bodies. Didn't like, it's the same, it's the same kind of moment. Uh, and that, I don't know, that was, that rules. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

[00:29:13] I mean, it's definitely like, this is the movie that I feel like put Scott Derrickson, like on the map for me, I guess, like somebody who I, you know, tend to watch. I feel like I haven't like loved everything he's done, but like, I'm always just like, I got to check out the new Scott Derrickson thing. You know, obviously he did Dr. Strange after this, uh, which, uh, is, is good. But then, uh, yeah, like has popped around for a few different stuff and then came back with a black phone and black phone's pretty good. I like that movie quite a bit. Yeah. I actually just watched that for the first time recently because a friend of mine wanted to watch it. And I was like, Oh, well I'm watching Sinister soon. So yeah, let's watch black phone.

[00:29:42] And yeah, black phone one pretty solid, like really good. Ethan Hawke's a little cool freak, you know? He's the grabber. He's the grabber. It was just hilarious. Uh, yes. And then black phone too, like is interesting, I guess. Yeah. I wasn't crazy about black phone too. I did kind of like, uh, he made another movie in 2025 called the gorge, which was a straight to Apple TV movie. Uh, so I almost like skipped it, but I was just like, Oh, I got nothing to do tonight. I'll watch the gorge. And it's Anya Taylor, Joy and Miles Teller. Uh, and it's not great, but it's, uh, it's got some fun ideas. It's cool. It's about a gorge. Yeah. You know, and there's like monsters or something, right?

[00:30:11] It's like this thing. There's monsters in the, the plot of the gorge is that there's like, you know, there's one person from every country that is assigned to be like the person who protects the gorge or whatever. The watcher on the wall. Yeah. And so Miles Teller is like the American representative of the gorge. And on the other side of the gorge, Anya Taylor, Joy is there who I believe is Russian. Okay. Uh, and so they're like, you know, they have to be there for a year and like kind of just sit there in isolation and make sure nothing gets out of the gorge. And they end up falling in love.

[00:30:40] Uh, you know, they like have a, you know, a nice like kind of meet cute moment where they like are, you know, across the gorge from each other and they can't speak. So there's like kind of doing signs to each other and stuff like that. And then eventually a Miles Teller like fashions a zip line to go over there and hang out with her. And then they fall into the gorge, uh, and they got to get out of the gorge. Yeah. Go off Scott Derrickson. Yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a fun time. Sigourney Weaver's also in it. Uh, so cool. There's that too. Uh, not as good as Sinister, but it's pretty good. But yeah, I think Sinister is probably his best film. Uh, and it's, uh, it's a lot of fun.

[00:31:08] I, I'm glad you finally got to cross off the list, Mike. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. It's definitely in that kind of, you know, like Valley of, of that sort of post arts horror movies that I wasn't into horror movies yet for. So like I didn't see a lot of these kind of this era. That's a good point. So that, that's probably like fertile ground for future. Mike makes Mike watches actually, actually probably dig into some of that stuff, but all right. Uh, that is Sinister from 2012 directed by Scott Derrickson. Now let's move on into the movie that you made me watch Mike, uh, which is the blob,

[00:31:37] but not that one. Exactly. If it had a mind, you could reason with it. If it had a body, you could shoot it. If it had a heart, you could kill it.

[00:32:04] Now man is no longer the supreme being on this planet. The organism is growing at a geometric rate. By all accounts, it's at least a thousand times its original mass. Nobody believes me about what happened tonight. What did happen? You were there. You saw. Asmic life form that hunts its prey. Predator.

[00:32:36] I want that organism alive. I think you ticked it off. All right. That was the trailer for the blob from 1988 directed by Chuck Russell, starring people like Kevin Dillon, Shawnee Smith, Jeffrey DeMunn, Candy Clark, uh, and also Jack Nance, my boy popping up in this movie. Very excited to see him. But, uh, yeah, Mike D why the blob? Why did you want to make me watch this movie? So, um, I had, uh, I saw this for the first time a couple of years ago, one or two years

[00:33:05] ago at, uh, one of those all night horror movie marathons that I'm talking about all the time recently. Yep. And I had never seen it. I actually don't think I've seen the original blob either from the fifties. I have seen the original blob, but I had not seen this. Okay. So I've been up broadly. I get it. You know, like, it's a blob. It's a blob. Yeah. Um, but that's a Steve McQueen movie, right? Isn't the first, the original one? Um, yes. Uh, starring Steve McQueen. Yes. Uh, for a second, I was like Steve McQueen, the director of widows and, uh, 12 years a slave.

[00:33:33] I don't think he did the 1950s blob, but no, it did star Steve McQueen, the actor, the actor Steve McQueen. So I do want to watch it eventually because also it's, you know, it's a important, uh, pillar of the genre, but yeah, so I never seen this one and I was just like floored at this kind of movie at the 88 version. Um, and one of the fun things about, we talk about a lot with going to these all night marathons or marathons or whatever, just where you're there with the freaks. When a certain credit comes up in the opening credits, it's like not in this movie, but

[00:34:02] when we saw, uh, uh, American werewolf in London and it's like, you know, special effects by Rick Baker. We're like, yeah, everyone goes nuts. Um, and that's what this movie, it comes up and it's like screenplay by Chuck Russell and Frank Darabont. Everyone's like, yeah, sick. Dick. So I didn't know, you know, I know Frank Darabont, of course, Shawshank Redemption and, and, uh, everything else he's done with all the, all the, uh, Stephen King adaptations and part of the walking dead and all that stuff.

[00:34:30] Um, but I didn't know he made has, was part of the remake of the blob. So that was very exciting for me. And then, yeah, well, I had just like a total blast watching it. And then you had mentioned you never saw the remake of it. And I was like, ah, perfect. That's how we're, I'm going to get you in here. That's why I made you watch it. Nice. And, uh, it rocks. It's real good. So this is one that's been on my list for a long time. I've wanted to watch the eighties remake of the blob forever. Uh, cause it is one of those, I feel like you talk about like eighties horror remakes, right? Yeah.

[00:34:56] And, uh, a lot of talk goes around to like, oh, the fly or the thing is like, oh, these movies are like way better than the originals. They're so good. And all that stuff. And I feel like those were the ones that I always heard talked about. Uh, and then like maybe when I started listening to like pure cinema podcast or something in like 2015, 2016, they're like, also the eighties blob is amazing. And I was like, oh really? I didn't know that. Uh, so I saw the original at some point. I don't remember exactly when, but saw the original on like TCM or something like that. I thought it was pretty good.

[00:35:23] I enjoyed the original blob, but, uh, yeah, I had just heard good things about this one for a long time. I actually bought the scream factory Blu-ray of this probably years ago at this point and, uh, finally got to bust it out for this episode of the podcast. And, uh, yeah, it delivers. This movie is fantastic. A huge fan of the 88 blob now. Uh, and yeah, I knew that Frank Darabont was involved, but I totally forgot about it. Like when that credit came up, it was like, oh yeah, Frank Darabont's part of this. And also Jeffrey DeMunn is like Frank Darabont's guy.

[00:35:52] So he's the guy who plays the sheriff in this movie. Yeah. There's a lot of those kinds of people in this. Yeah. He was Dale on the walking dead. Right. Uh, and so when Frank Darabont left the walking dead, that's when he got killed off. He was like, I don't want to be on the show anymore. I'm done. That's incredible. So yeah, but he's in like all of Darabont's movies. He's in Shawshank and green mile and all that stuff. But, uh, yeah, no, I was, uh, excited for this movie, excited for the visual effects of the blob and it did not disappoint. Uh, it looks amazing. This blob rocks. Yeah. And it's a very fun movie to watch.

[00:36:21] Like, I think it's, you know, scary in the way that like, you know, those eighties, like movies can be like scary or whatever, but like, it's more fun than scary to me. Um, you know, I just had like such a good time watching this movie. And a big part of that is, uh, how hard it goes with the blob stuff. I was not expecting it to kill off as many people as it did. There are characters who I thought were going to be the main character of the movie who then get killed off 20 minutes in, you know, all that, like it really sets it up as if, uh,

[00:36:49] that character, uh, who is like on the date with, uh, Shawnee Smith's character is like going to be your male leader. Yeah. Yeah. The football guy. And he's the first one that dies. He gets killed off immediately. Yeah. Yeah. It's so fun. Yeah. So all that's all that is to say, yeah, had a blast with the blob. It rocks. Uh, and also want to give a shout out to Shawnee Smith, who, uh, of course is Amanda in the Saw movies. Yes. Uh, in like Saw 1, 2, 4, and 10, I think, or something like that. She's in a bunch of them. She's in a bunch of them. Yeah.

[00:37:18] But, uh, yeah, I, I feel like I mostly just knew her from those, uh, and didn't know that she was in the 80s blob and, uh, she kicks action. She's really good. She's really good. Yeah. She's great. Yeah. And I think that was the thing with the, with, for me, my reaction to it when I saw it, uh, in the theaters or in the theater, uh, was, was just like totally unprepared for it to be so mean and like nasty and just like every 20 minutes kill off who you thought was the main character and like, just start killing people like that.

[00:37:44] And, and, and for it to be disgusting, like the blob stuff to be just like, yeah, like just goopy, gory body horror melting shit. Uh, and I was like just totally blown away for it by it. And I think it does, I think it's like, should be in that conversation with the thing in the fly of like the eighties remakes of the, of the fifties horror movies, um, that are just like, I mean, I haven't seen the first one. I don't know, but like presumably so much better than the, I would go so far as to say, yes, I think this movie is better than the original blob.

[00:38:14] I granted, I haven't seen the original blob in probably like 10 years, but I think this is a lot better. Yeah. I think I saw somebody's, uh, letterboxd review. Who's the guy that's on YouTube that you really like? Uh, Patrick Williams, Patrick Williams. I think it was his, the only YouTuber, the only YouTuber. I knew you'd know. Um, that's like the fifties blob. What if a blob absorbed people? The eighties blob. What if the blob fucking belted them? Yeah. And that's really what it is. Like, yeah.

[00:38:40] What if they just turned to goop and you saw their faces while it happened or something like that moment when the blob lands on the, the football guy who you think is the main character and Shawnee Smith runs over it. It's like, oh, and just pulls his mangled arm out. Yeah. And you're like, oh, I like disgusting. Like, oh my God. Cause up till then we don't really know what's happening yet. Although I guess that's right after we see the hollowed out can man when they pull back the sheet and he's just like a top of a torso cause he's been dissolved.

[00:39:08] But yeah, it's just like, holy shit, here we go. And then from then on, it's just that happening to people where they get blobbed and then they just get turned to mush. Uh, and it looks incredible. It looks so good. Yeah. No, the, the blob special effects look amazing. Uh, the effects of this movie, uh, Tony Gardner is the guy who did them, but, uh, this is like one of his first films, like one of the first things he's ever worked on, which is crazy. But yeah, he did a lot of the special effects of this movie also worked on like stuff like Darkman, army of darkness. Uh, he was the puppeteer for Binks and Hocus Pocus. Uh, so cool. That tracks. Yeah. We stand a legend. I don't know.

[00:39:38] We do stand a legend and army of darkness. That's both of us right there. And army of darkness. He did a lot of the makeup for like the jackass movies, uh, and stuff like that. I mean, he's, he's been around, he's been doing stuff for a long time. Did some of the effects for old M. Night Shyamalan's old, uh, just a few years ago. So yeah, having the, uh, the blob effect, uh, is, uh, you know, he, it's great. It's like really good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I found out one of my friends has never seen the song movies because we were talking about Shawnee Smith. Time for a rewatch. I was like, I guess we got to watch all 10 of them. Yeah. Lock in.

[00:40:09] Um, and yeah, she's really great at this. Yeah, absolutely. And of course this is, so this is a Chuck Russell movie as well. Uh, Chuck Russell, who also directed, uh, Nightmare on Elm Street, three dream warriors, uh, which was his, his film before this one. And yes, I would say the best one. I got to rewatch the nightmares, but it is a great one. That's a movie that we actually saw at a Hudson Horror show. Yes. Yeah. That's right. And that movie is a blast. It's so much fun. It ends with the Dawkins song. So, you know, it kicks ass. Yeah. Uh, I think I've only seen the first three, as I say, it's the best one.

[00:40:36] Uh, but he also directed the mask, uh, with Jim Carrey. And I feel like there's a, yeah, similar, like obviously the mask is a comedy, but I think there's a similar body horror element in the mask going on. Yeah. Uh, that you kind of explore in Nightmare on Elm Street three and the blob, uh, and all that stuff. But yeah, going into the blob, I was expecting to love it and I did. I think it rocks. Um, other scenes that stand out again, everybody, a lot of people die pretty early in the movie. Like the sheriff character put by Jeffrey DeMunn is dead in the first half hour as long,

[00:41:05] as well as the, uh, like the waitress that he's like kind of trying to romance and stuff. Right. Like they're all dead. Uh, and it's one of those things like, Oh, there's still an hour. Like these characters who seemed like it was setting up to be big parts of this movie are gone. Yeah. And it, and it weirdly made me like, Oh man, like I was actually kind of invested in their stories and they got a date tonight. God damn it. Like, no. My, um, my favorite is, um, Shawnee Smith's parents, the pharmacist, doctor guy who is in,

[00:41:34] Oh, what's the Elijah Wood movie where he's the father. Uh, Oh, okay. The actor's name is Art LaFleur. Yes. Uh, he's the guy who played Babe Ruth in the Sandlot. Yep. It's, uh, forever young because it's when he tells her, he tells, uh, Elijah would like sing to her about the girl he has a crush on and he goes and sings you're on my sunshine. Uh, yes. Not Elijah Wood's father, but the girl's father. The girl's father. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And the girl's father comes and opens the window behind her and it's this guy. Um, anyway, and he rules.

[00:42:02] And that scene is so funny where the, the jocks are at the pharmacy buying condoms. Right. And the guy looks in the mirror and it's the priest behind him. And he's like, uh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. It's not for me. It's for that horn dog over there. And he points to our main character who then goes to pick up Shoney Smith. And so the pharmacist recognizes him. Yeah. It's like ribbed. Ribbed. Very funny. Yes. Yeah. Really, really good. But yeah, a lot of these characters die pretty early on.

[00:42:31] And suddenly it's Kevin Dillon and Shoney Smith who are the main characters. Yeah. Kevin Dillon, who's like the bad boy, who's going to do the tracks. Yeah. Dude on a motorcycle, all that stuff. Uh, and Shoney Smith, who's like the head cheerleader, all that. And they have to kind of team up to defeat the blob and also save her family because her brother went out to the movies that night and the blobs go into the movie theater. Yeah. Love that. I love when a movie has a movie theater scene in it. Yes, absolutely. Watching this scene, I was like, I think I've seen this before and I think I've seen it in

[00:42:59] an Alamo draft house, like pre-show, like don't talk or text. Uh, yeah, that and, and, uh, what's the other one? Uh, Messiah of Evil. Messiah of Evil also has a similar theater scene where they do that too. I think Demons might've had another one as well. Yeah. Demons, the whole thing is at the movie theater. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's true. Yeah. So you can just pick from any of them, but yeah, the movie theater scene in this movie is fantastic. It's really good. Yeah. Poor rejectionist. Yeah. Kills the projectionist and the way the blob kind of just seeps through the walls and seeps on this onto the screen of the theater of the movies is really funny.

[00:43:29] I forget what the name of the fake movie they're seeing is, but it's like a good, like slasher pun thing, like, or not pun, but like a fake slasher name. Uh, I am blanking on what that is too, but it was a good name. Yeah. Good bit that the, the younger brother's like friend sells, sells them out. Cause he's like, Oh yeah, it's like a classic hack and slash, like stupid teenagers going to get cut up. And the mom's like, you're not seeing that. Uh, yeah. Yeah. But don't worry, there's no sex in it or whatever. It was kind of the, uh, which, which is good. And also like what I used to tell my mom was like, ah, but it's just for violence. It's okay.

[00:43:59] Yeah. It's okay. And somehow that worked. It's crazy. We live in a fucked up world. Um, so that's fun. Yeah. And I liked, uh, check off the fake snow machine, you know, cause they're a ski town that's been, uh, ravaged by climate change. Right. Where there's no, there hasn't been snow yet this season. So they got to tune up the fake snow machines, which is how they're able to defeat the blob. Yes. Uh, yeah. Yeah. I also really liked the, there's a big, kind of a big change that the movie makes in terms

[00:44:26] of the origin of the blob, which is so in the, in the original movie, the blob is just like a meteor from outer space that, uh, lands. It's like an alien. Yeah. And in this movie, I think they act as if that's what it is at first, but it's ultimately revealed that it's like a biological weapon created by the government that got out of hand. Yeah. Like it's, and so I like that, uh, that government distrust that the movie puts, puts in there. Yeah. You know, I, I appreciate that element of it. Uh, you know, that, that's kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, there, there was a biological weapon.

[00:44:55] They were testing in space or something and got mutated and crashed to the satellite or something. Uh, yeah. And so that's why it's here. And yeah, I love that whole quarantine, the town thing. And, uh, Walter Mosley is one of the, the nameless guys that gets, it's like one of the soldiers in the sewer, which is fun, which is a cool, like applaud moment in the movie theater when he shows, he's got like one big moment in the, in the, in the, in the sewers with them where he like sort of sacrifices himself for them, I think.

[00:45:22] Um, and everyone in the movie, in the theater was like, yeah, this is cool. That's why you gotta go see movies with freaks that recognize Walter Mosley from 30 years ago. Yeah, absolutely. Cause he's, he's in the Rob Zombie movies, right? He's like, uh, yeah. And, and, uh, the Texas Chainsaw two, I think he's where he, yes, chop top and Texas Chainsaw two. Yeah. And then he's in all the firefly movies or whatever they're called. Yeah. The Rob Zombie Firefly movies. Um, but yeah. And then as, as well as him, you got Jack Nance popping up in here, a racer head himself

[00:45:52] as, uh, as, as like the doctor that is like there at the beginning of the movie. At the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. Just, it's fun to see him pop up. It's great. Love it. Yeah. I think this movie is so like, yeah, I'm glad I got to see it. And then now you've seen it and like, yeah, man, what a, what a fun movie this is. I think this would definitely be in the like rotation of like, you want to watch like a fun horror movie, like a kind of silly, but fucked up movie. Let's watch the blob. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this feels like one that would like play so well in a theater and I would really like to see it like in a good, like trash fall crowd or something like that. Uh, it would be a lot of fun.

[00:46:21] The ending's kind of wild too, where those like the priest is, uh, right. Yeah. After everything has happened after Shawnee Smith shoots the blob with a machine gun, which is the hottest thing that's anyone that anyone's ever done. It's really cool. You know, they, they blow up the blob. Everything is fine. And they like freeze it and everything. And then like, it seems like a few months later, like down the line, like the, the priest who has been like driven insane by the, what happened with the blob is like preaching and then has like some kind of like, he has like a piece of the blob that he is with him and

[00:46:50] he's like going to unleash it at some point. Yeah. You know, he's like the Lord will give me a sign when it is time or something like that. And so there's like potential, like I don't think they ever followed up in this movie. I think it did not do well at the box office when it came out. Crazy. Uh, but yeah, they set it up where like there could have been another thing down the line if they wanted to, but I think it's a good, like just, I think it's just a fun horror movie epilogue to end this movie on too. Right. And I think I was saw on Wikipedia or something. He's from, he's in the original, not that character, but that actor is in the original one.

[00:47:19] And it's like a fun little like cameo thing. So he's, so he's not in the original, but he is in the sequel to the original. Oh, okay. That's what it was. Yeah. Which is called Beware the Blob from 1972. He plays an eyepatch wearing hobo in Beware the Blob. Okay. Fascinating. Um, uh, so that's cool. But yeah, it's like, I was maybe think of, um, what's the, what is it? Invasion of the Body Snatchers that has Kevin McCarthy come back. I don't like, remember there's like a movie and he's like, they're still here or they're coming or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:48] Kevin McCarthy is the star of the original and he's the one that like, is like jumps on, uh, Daniel Sutherland's car, Donald Sutherland's car. Yes. Right. And it's like, they're coming, they're coming, whatever. And he gets like kind of taken over by the Body Snatchers. That's also another one of those like horror remakes that I feel like was talked about a lot. Yeah. Like the fly and the thing that kind of overshadowed the existence of the blob. Right. Yeah. So I think it's like an interesting, like continuity of like, we'll bring somebody back there, you know, kind of from the original one there. Uh, and, and in that one, it's kind of like, he's been running the whole time.

[00:48:17] Like Kevin McCarthy's still being chased. That's a really fun bit for that one. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a little different than that. He's just kind of like a side guy or whatever in the sequel, uh, or whatever. And, uh, but yeah, that, that whole idea that he sort of becomes corrupted by this and he takes a shard of it while it's frozen after they've destroyed it. Uh, and then yeah, cut to however much longer later. Uh, and now he's in like a revival tent thing and he's all sweaty and he's, he's like worshiping

[00:48:42] this, this defrosted little dollop of the blob now, uh, waiting for a sign for the end times. Like cool. Yeah. It rocks. That's the blob. I don't, you know, it blobbed around. It did some blob things. Yeah. One of the most fun things about this movie too, is you can shout, no, the blob. Like you can just like, like they're going to get blobbed. What's going to, you know, it's a fun word to say and it's a, and it's a fun thing. And every time the blob of the blob appears on screen, it looks awesome and it's always exciting. So there's that.

[00:49:10] It's one of my favorite Simpsons bits is a Homer falls into a, it's like jumps into his pool that he has not been chlorinating and comes out and it's like all covered in like green slime. He's like, Lisa, the blob has got me. Don't, don't touch me. Look at you too. Incredible. I'm trying to look up. There's a, I was a big angry beavers guy who wasn't. And they had a, a, a fake guy in the, like a character, a movie star they would watch in that show called named Oxnard Montalvo.

[00:49:41] Okay. You are like, you remember the angry beavers more than I do, but yeah, I'd say it sounds familiar. Like specifically this thing though. Yeah. It's kind of like how hang Arnold had Dino Spamoni just cause it's like a fun name. Yeah. Dino Spamoni, they're like Frank Sinatra guy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That I remember. Yeah. Yeah. And so they had Oxnard Montalvo and he was in the B movies they would watch. And there was one of them that's a blob spoof. And I wish I could remember what the name of the movie is because it's like a thumb grafted onto a blob and it would like crawl with the thumb.

[00:50:09] And I can't remember what they would call it, like what it was called in the movie, but I think that's like my first introduction to the blob is angry beavers spoof of it. It's likely that that was mine as well. Yeah. Because I also watched angry beavers back in the day. Dagwood and Norbert. I remember the, yeah. Yeah. Those classic beaver characters. Were there any other characters on the crawling spleen besides those two? I found it. The crawling spleen. That's a good name. That's good. It's the, it's the episode where they try to stay up all night. And so they watch scary movies. Yeah. I remember that. Okay. And that's what they're watching is the crawling spleen.

[00:50:39] Okay. Well, that sounds awesome. If you want to make us watch the crawling spleen episode of the angry beavers, go to Kofi, uh, donate 50 bucks. We'll, we'll toss in two extra angry beavers episodes. Uh, we'll watch some of the lickety split or the lickety law, the log split, whatever, uh, race episode. Um, cause they, they were on Netflix when Netflix used to have stuff. Um, when we were in college and I rewatched all of them. Uh, so that's the only reason. So it's like moderately more fresh than 30, 20 years ago.

[00:51:09] It's 10 years ago. It's like 10 years ago. Yeah. Uh, since I watched all the angry beavers, but I would watch them again. They're great. Yeah. Fair enough. Angry beavers is a good show. Um, but all right. I think that's going to wrap things up for this week's episode. Michael, do you have any last thoughts about the blob? Um, the blob eats those guys and that shit is sure does. Yeah. And that's really cool. Melts their fucking faces. And it's disgusting. Yeah. It rocks. All right. That brings us to the end of, uh, this month's Mike makes Mike watch. Of course that was sinister in the blob. What are we watching next month?

[00:51:38] Mike, what are you making me watch next month? Uh, surprise, surprise. It's another horror movie. Um, cause now despite the fact that we're not in spooky season anymore, but now we got to wind down from it. Right. Now we got to, now we got to cool off a little bit with the spooky movies. Um, and I am making you watch from friend of the show, Stephen Summers, deep rising. Okay. All right. I'm excited. I think if once, once we watched that, I might've seen every Stephen Summers movie actually. You might have. Yeah. We, we might've covered most of them on this podcast by that point. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:07] And this is the movie he makes, uh, before it's 1998. So right before the mummy, uh, and it stars treat Williams and Famke Jansen. And it's a, uh, aquatic horror movie. Sounds great. I'm excited. Yeah. And which speaking of the mummy, of course, uh, recently announced the, uh, the name of the new mummy, Mike. Uh, did you miss that? Did you see that? The mummy rides again? Yes. It's the new mummy. The new mummy is just the mummy ride at universal. They just like put it in theaters. That's the name of the movie though. The mummy ride at universal.

[00:52:36] Yeah, exactly. No, it's called the mummy book of the dead. Uh, actually. So we're taking a crossover crossover happening. Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, the mummy for the new legacy equal to, uh, the mummy series, uh, which of course is like Mike D's favorite thing is going to be coming out in I think October of next year, like 2027 is when it's, uh, released, uh, released. So we got to do some kind of mummy retrospective episode. We've kind of already done it though. We did. So no, we, we've done a review on the mummy three. We've done two of the dragon emperor.

[00:53:05] We've never done an actual episode about either the mummy or the mummy returns. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. It is crazy. And tomb of the dragon number is the one they're ignoring. I don't think they're counting that one for this new one. Yeah. I mean, not our hashtag, not my Evelyn. Exactly. Yeah. You can't do one without Rachel Weisz in there. So yeah, we, I think we got to do some kind of mummy episode. We'll do something. We got a year to figure it out. We got a year to figure it out. More importantly, we got to do Shrek retrospective for Shrek five next year. That's, that's gotta happen too. That has to happen for sure. All right. Mike D, where can we find you? Oh, I didn't even say what my movie was for next month.

[00:53:35] My movie next month is not a horror movie. Unless your horror is guys who have too many opinions about music and movies. Well, but for some people. Might be having a rough time listening to this podcast. That is true. High Fidelity is the movie I'm making you watch next month. Okay. Excited. Yeah. So there you go. Deep Rising and High Fidelity coming at you for next month's Mike Makes Mike Watch. Mike D, where can we find you online this week? You can find me at MD Film Blog on Letterboxd and Blue Sky.

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