Off Mike - Captain America: Brave New World, SNL 50, Wolf Man, and more!

[00:00:02] Let's get together, talk about the movies that we saw this week. We'll have discussions, talk film news, we'll laugh a lot and act like geeks. Sometimes we'll have a guest or two, sometimes it's just the two of us. Let's crack some jokes and tell some folks to come along and hang with us! Mike and... Chosen wisely.

[00:00:28] Live from New York and Missoula, it's Mike and Mike go to the movies! Just what everybody's always thinking, what's going on in Missoula? Yes, exactly. I'm Mike Smith and Journami, as always, is a newly elected US president with a controversial past that's prone to transforming into an enormous red rage monster. Mike D'Agretio. How's your today, Mike? I'm doing great. No comment. How are you? How are you? Look, I don't love that comparison.

[00:00:55] I don't like that one a lot. Yeah. Can you just introduce me as the Joker? Actually, that's the goal for 2025 is to have intros that are so insulting that you beg to be introduced as the Joker by the end of it. Wow. Reverse psychology into being the Joker. Exactly. Yes. Nice. Yeah. What's been going on, Mike? How are things with you? What a fraught question to ask in these times that we live in, Mike.

[00:01:24] We're alive and that's about as well as we can hope for these days, you know? I think that's fair. Yes. A lot of stuff I would love to say, but don't really want recorded, you know? I think that is totally fair. Yeah, no, same here. For the most part. Yeah, no, you know, just living life day by day. Still don't have a job. So if anybody would like to give me a job, that would be fantastic. Email Mike's podcast jobs at gmail.com.

[00:01:56] Yeah. Uh, yes. Uh, so yeah, live that unemployed life, uh, which, uh, has involved a lot of applying to jobs and a lot of watching movies. Uh, it's been a lot of that. You know, there might be of all the ways to write out the potential end of the American empire. Not having to go to work is pretty good one. Because let me tell you, having to go to work sucks. Sure. Yeah. I, uh, I get that. Uh, I do, I do understand that. Uh, I will say, I feel like the first like two months ish of unemployment, I was going like stir crazy.

[00:02:25] Okay. Yeah. You know, and now I feel like I'm like, my brain is like rewiring where I'm like, well, when I get a job, what do I do? I have to go into a building and like meet people. Yeah. You re you start to realize, oh, we were just meant to lay in fields and eat berries with our homies. Uh, this whole going to earn a living. Yes. Feels pretty unnatural once you're not part of it.

[00:02:48] Yes. But, but I also like desperately want to go back into it. That's so weird. Also, yeah, we've been constructed a hellscape in which it's required. So, yes. Uh, so yeah, again, if anybody has any jobs, any of them, that would be great. Uh, send them my wife, please. Uh, yeah, no things are, uh, you know, they're fine. The usual over here. Again, watching lots of movies.

[00:03:11] It's it's, I feel like for the last, I mean, really eight years, but really the last particularly two months, uh, anytime somebody asked me that question, it's just the Han Solo. Like we're fine. We're all good. We're all fine. Like it's so obviously fake. Yes. Uh, there was a, there was a good bit, uh, at SNL 50 where, uh, Ryan Reynolds, they were doing like a Q and a, uh, the segments, uh, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were like getting questions from the audience. And there's all the celebrities in the audience, like, you know, doing questions and Ryan Reynolds stands up. And normally I like, I don't think Ryan Reynolds is like that funny.

[00:03:41] But I thought he delivered this very well because there's been this whole, like, you know, controversy surrounding like him and Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni and like this whole thing going back and forth. And there's a funny bit in that special where Tina Fey is like, Oh, Ryan Reynolds, how are you doing? He's like, great. Why? What have you heard? Like, he delivered that very well. It was pretty funny. Yeah. That's how it feels, you know? Yes, exactly. Uh, and I'll be talking more about SNL 50 in a little while, but today, Mike, we're doing segways back, baby.

[00:04:12] Uh, yeah, that's why I put up my job applications can segway seamlessly from, uh, from thing to thing. Yeah, no, we're doing, uh, discussions here on the podcast. Just talking about, uh, some of the stuff that we have been watching lately. Uh, and it's been a while since we've done a discussion episode, Mike. It has been. Yeah. We've had many of specific topic and not a general topic.

[00:04:32] Yes. Uh, and so I have like, I had a huge backlog of stuff to choose from because again, I've had nothing else to do, but, uh, watching movies over the last couple of months, you, I think have less stuff. Uh, and I, I had to call down my list. I was like, I, I could only talk about like 10 to 15 things. Uh, and, and you, uh, I think had a little bit less stuff, but mostly because a lot of your viewing has been Muppet related over the last couple of few weeks. Right. Which a lot of mine was as well. Right.

[00:04:59] It was, yeah. A lot of my stuff was prep for the best of the year, year in review, 2044 episode. So we've talked about a lot of those, uh, which rolled right into watching eight Muppet movies. Um, so, uh, it hasn't been watching, I haven't been watching a ton of other things, uh, lately. Cause also, you know, brains. So we're like, I, you know, you get 45 minutes into a thing and you're like, I'm good. Uh, and how many times could I do that before you're like, I guess I'll play a video game. I don't know. Whatever. Uh, on top of the, the eight Muppet

[00:05:29] movies. So I don't have a ton of stuff, uh, which one of my unemployment projects, I'm replaying the last best part two right now. Um, in preparation for black. Do you want to feel worse? Yeah. Well, last of a season two premieres in like two months. Uh, so I want to replay that. Oh shit. I mean, you don't have to, it's not, it's not required. Uh, I know this is just, uh, because I'm unemployed and have a lot more time on my hands. I'm going to, I'm going to replay last first parts. True. True. True. Uh, and man, good game. It's really, it's really good. Uh, yeah. Great stuff. Uh, in any case, we have a lot of movies to talk about. I hope they protect

[00:05:59] Caitlin Deaver. Yeah. They're going to lock her in a bunker for the next couple of years. Actually. Yeah. That might be what has to happen. All right, let's get into it. Mike. It's time for some discussions.

[00:06:29] All right. It's time for some discussions here on Mike and Mike go to the movies, Mike. Uh, and should I start off because I have more stuff to, uh, get into? Yeah, sure. You got a lot of stuff. Sure. Yeah. Well, I'll talk about two, uh,

[00:06:39] recent sequels that just came out this past weekend. Uh, one of which is Captain America, brave new worlds. Uh, this is the fourth Captain America movie. The first one that features, uh, Sam Wilson, Anthony Mackie as Captain America at the center of it, man. Yeah. The say, yeah, it's, uh, you know, here's the thing. This movie is getting trashed. Like people, this is getting like eviscerated, uh, in reviews. Uh, and I don't think it necessarily deserves that.

[00:07:09] I do think it's not very good. Okay. Okay. But like when I was watching it for the first, like two thirds, I was kind of like, this is okay. Okay. I was kind of into it. I think there's a, you know, some solid, it's not, not like very memorable action set pieces, but there's some like fun stuff in there, uh, where they kind of use, you know, he's Sam Wilson, he's Captain America, but he was also the Falcon. And so it's sort of a combination of the two and all that stuff. And there's some fun stuff there. And it goes to some darker places in those first two thirds. Like, Oh, people are dying off screen right here. And it's,

[00:07:39] pretty, pretty gnarly. And then, uh, the red Hulk stuff starts happening, um, which has been heavily featured in the trailers. So I'm not, it's not a spoiler or anything. Uh, although the movie kind of treats it as like a big reveal in the third act when it starts happening. So the red Hulk stuff starts happening and it immediately like the movie takes a nosedive. It's, uh, it's, it's really, really rough. And I think the first like two thirds, I was kind of on board as like, okay, this isn't as bad as people are saying. This is kind of fine. It's not great, uh, but it's okay enough.

[00:08:07] And then it really just kind of collapses under the weight of a lot of different things. Uh, because this can't just be Captain America for Mike. This also has to be the incredible Hulk too. And it has to be Eternals too. Uh, and it has to be a secret, like all the characters from Falcon and Winter Soldier are there, but they're not like reintroduced to you. They're just kind of there. Uh, and it's, you know, stuff like that where it's like, I, I have been watching all this stuff. So I kept up with it pretty well.

[00:08:34] But at the same time, I was like, who is this even for? It's supposed to be for me theoretically. And like, I'm not feeling anything. So what's the point of all this? Uh, and it really feels like, you know, this should have been like, oh, this is Sam Wilson's Captain America. Like this should, this should, this should have been about him. Right. This should have been like his like centerpiece movie, uh, that really like proved his like, you know, staying power as Captain America and like, and take over the franchise and Chris Evans and all that stuff. And, uh, yeah, it didn't really feel like that by the end. Uh, it really just feels like they really, really,

[00:09:04] really wanted to just close a lot of loose threads from stuff that had been left over from, for so long. And so the incredible Hulk from 2008 is a key text now in the, uh, in the MCU, which is a movie that we used to joke about how they would forget about it all the time. Right. Because, because it was, you know, it was the Edward Norton Hulk. It wasn't even Mark Ruffalo, but eventually they brought back William Hurt as Thaddeus Ross. And the weird thing is obviously William Hurt died. So it's not him anymore. It's a Harrison Ford playing Thaddeus Ross, who is very good in it. I think he's good.

[00:09:33] But it is a weird, like you're picking up these threads in this movie. The original actor who you would want for this is now no longer with us and can't do it. I don't know. Maybe we just let that movie lie. I don't know. It's weird. Uh, but so Tim Blake Nelson's in it as a, as his character from the incredible Hulk. And now he's transformed into the leader. It looks bad. He's in incredible Hulk. I don't even remember that. Oh yeah. He's a, he only has like two or three seasons incredible Hulk, but they kind of set him up as like transforming into the leader at the end of that movie. Okay. Uh, and they never,

[00:10:03] followed up on it, uh, until now. So now it's, it's truly like 14 years later, uh, 14, 15 years later that they're finally following up on that. And, uh, yeah, no, it's, it's pretty underwhelming. Um, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a weird, weird movie. Uh, and again, it also builds on the, uh, the giant thing at the end of Eternals. Did you ever, did you ever even watch Eternals? No. Okay. Well, at the end of Eternals, there's no one, everyone, nobody has shut up about that thing in the ocean for the last six years or whatever it's been since it came out.

[00:10:30] So, so now they finally acknowledged it. So now people can shut up. Yeah. But yeah, no, so it's throwing that plot element in, it's throwing in elements from the incredible Hulk show. And yeah, it is introducing like supporting characters from Falcon and Winter Soldier who are now like key members of Sam Wilson's like team. And again, that's fine. Um, but there's no effort to like reintroduce the audience to those characters. They're kind of just there, uh, to the point where there's one character who's like a secret service agent who I thought was from Falcon and Winter Soldier. Cause I was like, well,

[00:10:59] she seems to know Sam Wilson really well. I must've just forgotten that she was in Falcon and Winter Soldier. She wasn't, uh, she's just, she's just some person. She was a new character, just a new character. The movie was very famously like heavily reshot. Um, there is one character, uh, who is an Israeli secret agent, uh, named Sabra, uh, who is from the comics. And yeah, now that, that almost all mention of Israel is like scrubbed out of the movie. Um, at this point, I think they, they cast her and like, we're doing that before, you know,

[00:11:29] everything that happened in the last like two years. Yeah. And so that was a real like, uh, shit, we gotta not do this anymore. Um, and so yeah, no, it, it really feels like a very desperate movie in a lot of ways. Um, I, again, as I was watching it, I was kind of like, this is okay enough. It's not great, but I was like kind of enjoying it on like, you know, the sliding scale that I enjoy Marvel movies a little bit more than most people, I think at this point. Right. And so to that end, like I was, as I was watching it, I was kind of like, you know, it's not great.

[00:11:59] I do think I liked it a little bit more than like Deadpool and Wolverine. And then like two days later, I was like, nah, I think I liked Deadpool and Wolverine better than this. Deadpool and Wolverine actually feels like, you know, even though it's built on a lot of other things, it feels like it's its own. It's a, it's a full story. Right. You know, it feels like a complete story in one movie. I mean, it's built on a lot of stuff, but like it's, you know, it has like a, an emotional core, uh, like an arc that its character goes through. Right. All that stuff. And I don't feel like Captain America four really has that.

[00:12:25] And then the last third, the red Hulk stuff just looks so bad. Uh, just, just really terribly green screened and rushed. And it feels awful. It's, it's really, really bad. And then even the post credit scene just feels really, really lazy. I don't know if you saw that going around on Twitter recently. Um, I did not. Uh, so spoilers for Captain America four. Um, but the, there's a post credit scene as you might expect from a Marvel movie. There's only one, not two. Uh, it's the very end of the credits and it is just a Sam Wilson visiting the leader in jail.

[00:12:51] And the leader is like, Hmm, but I've seen all the probabilities in the world and something is coming. There are other worlds and that's it. So they're teasing the multiverse that's already happened. Yeah. That's, I was like, wait, yeah, no, the most, yeah, we know about the multiverse. Uh, there's been like five movies now that have dealt with it in some way. I know they're like, you know, planning the whole Avengers doomsday, Avengers secret wars, like, you know, multiverse stuff, like still to come, but it's like, you got to give us more than that.

[00:13:21] That's crazy. We had a movie called multiverse of madness. Like it was there. We had Spider-Man no way home, which had the multiverse. Deadpool Wolverine had the multiverse. The Loki TV show had the multiverse. Like everything is the multiverse has been done. Yeah. We're past that. We're way past that. And so for it to be like, yes, there are other worlds out there. Like I wanted Sam Wilson to kind of just be like, yeah, I know, but he doesn't. And I'm kind of like, is he the last one to know about the multiverse? No one told him about it. That's crazy.

[00:13:50] Uh, so yeah, just, it really reeks of a kind of lazy movie. Uh, and that's a bummer, you know, as somebody who is still invested in this stuff, but like to a much lesser degree than I was years, years ago. Um, but I'm still keeping up with it all because I'm like, I've invested so much time in it now. I gotta, I gotta, you gotta pull the cord at some point, Mike, you gotta do it. I don't know, man. I got, I I'm going down with the ship. Uh, I think is, I mean, I'm, I'm just curious to see where it goes from here.

[00:14:16] Uh, and so there will be Thunderbolts later this year. Um, which, uh, you know, I'm, I'm tentatively excited for. I do think Fantastic Four will be good. Uh, that's my. On what, on what grounds? What in the last two years has made you think they still got one in the tank? I think Fantastic Four will be good because it has to be. Okay. I think, I think if Fantastic Four is bad, the whole thing unravels.

[00:14:40] Like it's, it's a weird cinematic universe chip and shatter. Yeah. I think Fantastic Four will be good. Uh, I'm holding out hope for that one. Uh, we'll, we'll see what happens. And I think Thunderbolts looks kind of fun. I think it could be fun. Yeah. I don't know. I'm really, really, it's, it's a weird time. Um, you know, new Daredevil shows coming out next month. I'm looking forward to that. It should be fun. Yeah. Sure. Whatever. Uh, but yeah, Captain America four it's, it's pretty, whatever. I, again, I do think it's maybe a little bit better than a few of the more recent Marvel movies. Like it's better than the Marvels. I think, uh, it's better than the Marvels. I think, uh, it's better than the Marvels. I think, uh, it's better than the Marvels. I think, uh,

[00:15:10] I mean, again, I, I think it's maybe a little bit lesser than the Deadpool Wolverine, but like, what about Ant-Man? Oh, better than Ant-Man for sure. Better than Quantumania. Quantumania sucks. Uh, that movie's really rough. Um, yeah. Better than Quantumania, better than the Marvels. Uh, not nearly as good as Guardians 3. Guardians 3 was, man, that was good stuff. That was good. Um, but of course that was James Gunn and his kind of last hurrah sort of in the Marvel universe. Yeah, no, it is better than, you know, the three Sony Marvel movies that we had last year, uh, which were, which were most of the superhero movies last year. Uh, they had Madam,

[00:15:40] and Web, Kraven, the Hunter, and Venom 3. They were all awful. Uh, and I feel like that may be like part of why I liked the first two throats of Captain America as much as I did was because it's like, Hey, it's, it's way better than Kraven, the Hunter. We're going up baby. Yeah. Here we go. So, uh, yeah. Captain America 4, it is in theaters right now. Uh, it seems to be doing okay, but like audiences are definitely like, yeah, I don't know about this. Uh, interesting. Like it's, it's got a much like lower cinema score than a lot of the other Marvel movies and stuff like that. I will say my, my audience seems like kind of receptive to it. There is

[00:16:10] a cameo. There's two like kind of big cameos in this movie, as you would expect from any Marvel movie at this point. One of which, uh, I think both of which are like fairly obvious. Um, if you like think about it for like more than a couple of minutes. Okay. All right. So I won't say like specifically who they are, but like both cameos got like a reaction out of my audience. People being like, yeah, which the first one kind of made sense. And the second one was like, really? You're, you're that excited for this person? Interesting.

[00:16:35] But in any case, Captain America 4, it's out right now. But I also saw another sequel this weekend, Mike, which is Paddington in Peru. Now for something completely different. Yes. A much better film than Captain America 4. Uh, yeah, no, this is pretty fun. I like, I, uh, I caught up with the Paddingtons fairly recently. Uh, I watched the first one a little while back. I saw Paddington 2 maybe like a year ago and lives up to the hype man. Paddington 2, one of the great works, uh, of the modern age. Amazing.

[00:17:03] It's really, really terrific. Love Paddington 2. Uh, and so going into Paddington in Peru, I was expecting a pretty fun ride, but maybe a ride that was not nearly as good as the first two Paddingtons. And I was right. Uh, it's a pretty fun ride. That's not nearly as good as the first two. Paul King did not return to direct this one. Uh, he left the Paddington movies to go make Wonka instead. Uh, and also Sally Hawkins, who plays the mom of the family in the first two movies, uh, did not come back. Uh, so she's been recast, uh, Emily Mortimer, uh, who is also pretty good. That's a pretty good swap. Yeah. Yes. I like, I like Emily.

[00:17:33] I like Emily Mortimer a lot. Uh, but Sally Hawkins was like really something special in the Paddington movies. Okay. It kind of feels like, um, when we reviewed mummy tomb and the dragon emperor on, uh, the complete works where we were just like hashtag not my Evelyn to, uh, Maria Bellow replacing Rachel Weisz. Um, that's sort of how it feels like with, with, uh, Emily Mortimer, who again, like Maria Bellow fine in mummy three, like she's not bad at it by any means, but she's not Rachel Weisz. And so Emily Mortimer kind of feels the same way where it's like, you're doing, you're doing a great job, but like, you're just not Sally Hawkins. You're not, you're not the same, you know, it's a little bit different, but yeah,

[00:18:03] in this one, Paddington, uh, goes to Peru, uh, which is where he's from originally to go visit his aunt Lucy, who is, uh, you know, uh, supposedly having some kind of like depressive episode or like has to go back to see if she's okay. Uh, she's at the nursing home for retired bears, uh, which is run by a nun played by Olivia Coleman. Uh, and when they get there, they discover that she's gone missing. Uh, and so they go on a search through the Peruvian jungle to go look for aunt Lucy. And they encounter Antonio Banderas playing a boat captain, uh, who turns out to be a treasure hunter. Uh,

[00:18:31] and there is in fact a treasure that they're trying to find as well. Is this the uncharted movie we deserve? Uh, a hundred, you know, genuinely Antonio Banderas is in both uncharted and Indiana Jones five completely wasted in both of those movies. He's so much better in Paddington three. That's so good. Uh, he's killing it in this movie. He's having a lot of fun, uh, which is really great. Uh, yeah, no Paddington three. It's pretty fun. Again, it's not as good as the first two. Um, but it's still very charming. It's very clever.

[00:18:58] There's some really fun, uh, set pieces. There's this moment. There's this whole like plane crash sequence. That's like kind of juxtaposed against this chase that's happening on llamas on a hill. And it's a, it's a better action set piece than anything in the new captain America. Uh, it's, it's very, very fun. And Paddington bear is very charming. He's a good guy. Uh, so yeah, Paddington to Peru. Go check it out. It's pretty good. All right. Look at that. I still haven't seen them. Uh, after years ago when friend of the show screenwriter, Johnny Grant was like, you guys haven't seen Paddington? I forgot about that. Yeah. Uh, yeah.

[00:19:28] I still haven't seen them. Uh, so maybe I will. Yeah. And they're, they're very worth watching. Um, but all right. So those are the two new sequels that I saw this past weekend. What have you been watching? Mike, what's been on your list? Um, I'll start with the TV show that I watched, uh, or started, um, which I don't know. Did I talk? I don't remember if I actually talked about station 11 on the pod, uh, but I watched that. You've mentioned it a couple of times, but I don't know if you've gone like in depth. Yeah. I don't know how in depth I'll go, but I watched it. It's on max, uh, the one to watch for HBO. Um, and, um, it's, uh, it's station 11.

[00:19:58] It's great. I remember reading that book. It's, uh, in college and being really like blown away by it. Um, and this, uh, was a show that hit, I think in 2021 or something. Right. I forget exactly the date. I think you had to get delayed because of COVID and it's pretty rough. Cause it's about a, uh, flu pandemic that destroys the world. Uh, so that's a rough sit, um, you know? Um, but.

[00:20:23] Did it air like in 2020 or something? Like it was, I think it was in production in 2020. Uh, and then it came out in 21. Uh, so that's awkward and crazy. And, uh, yeah, it's 10 episodes and it's amazing. And, you know, cry a lot, feel, feel lots of fields. It's real good. Um, Mackenzie Davis is amazing in it. Um, and it does this really interesting timey wimey thing where it's jumping back and forth between, um,

[00:20:53] the present day, which is like post, uh, you know, I think they call it the after or something like that. It's after the world has collapsed where Mackenzie Davis is in this traveling troop of, uh, Shakespearean actors where they, um, travel around, they make this yearly loop and put on plays. And it's this whole big, they're like famous, you know, in the area. Uh, and it's just kind of like last remaining grasps of the, the before society, civilization and culture and art, right. All this stuff.

[00:21:20] Um, while also flashing back to the actual collapse, uh, Mackenzie Davis's character as a child experiencing that, uh, and just the symmetry and people coming in and out of both timelines of like, you know, we thought you were dead, but actually we found you by accident and all this stuff. Yeah. Uh, and it's just really emotional and powerful. And, you know, one of those, like, this is what we need the humanities for, um, as we're seeing that here in 2025 unrelated. Um, so there's that, uh, that's station 11 really recommend that.

[00:21:50] I started watching on, uh, shutters. It's on shutter because that's owned by aims. This is an AMC show. So it's on shutter, but it's also on Netflix. They did this weird thing where they put all the season ones of their shows on Netflix, which is definitely to hook you and make you sign up for AMC plus or whatever the, the actual AMC one is. Yes. Yellowjackets said this too, right? They have the first season of yellow jackets on Netflix. And then I think, uh, yeah, they want you to sign on. It's paramount plus. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people, a lot of networks have done that. Um,

[00:22:20] now, but, uh, there's a bunch of like interview with a vampire I know is on Netflix now season one and a couple other shows, but this show specifically is the terror, which at least is a horror thing. So it makes sense why it's on shutter. Right. Also. Um, and this is an anthology series that, um, follows, I believe it's, it's just like horrific moments or something. Like I don't really, I haven't, obviously I've only seen season one, but I know season two is, uh, set in a, in the like Japanese internment camps in America in 1944 or whatever.

[00:22:50] That was, um, during world war two. Um, and season one follows a Arctic expedition in 1840 or 45, you know, in the 1840s, um, where it's these British explorers are attempting to find the Northwest passage, right? Where you can go through the Arctic through, you know, to, to the Americas or whatever. And of course they get lost. They get locked in the, the ice pack for the winter and, uh, freaky shit starts happening. They start going crazy. There's a weird sickness, right? There's all this stuff. Um, and I've only watched the first two episodes, so I'm not sure where it's going.

[00:23:20] But it's starting to do, um, this kind of, you know, they encounter, uh, Inuit people there and like, you know, they start having that, like you people don't belong here, like to the, to the Europeans. It's like, you don't know the ways of this land. Why are you here? You've disturbed the balance, right? And this whole thing.

[00:23:36] And, and it's also sort of like what, um, uh, true detective, is it night country? Is that what season three was called? Season four. It was night country. Yeah. Where it's like the sort of, uh, in above the Arctic circle, like the, the bounds between realities are thin, right? This whole kind of other world connection thing is starting to come into play. So yeah, I'm, I'm interested to see where it goes. It's, it's, I've only watched two episodes. It's pretty intense. It's pretty cool.

[00:24:00] I thought it was a BBC show, uh, cause it's got that kind of like production value. And a lot of the actors are like Game of Thrones people, like, you know, not no major stars from Game of Thrones, but like, oh yeah, that guy and that guy, like, oh yeah. You know, just populated with lots of those dudes. Uh, yeah. Uh, and Jared Harris. Um, so that's pretty cool. Um, so yeah, I mean, I really liked the first two episodes. I plan to watch it. I think it's only eight or nine per season or something. Uh, so that's the terror, which is season one is on Netflix right now.

[00:24:30] Very cool. All right. And while we're on, uh, the subject of TV, I'll throw in a few TV things as well. Uh, severance is, uh, currently airing right now, man. Uh, I ended up watching the terror instead. I was going to start season one, but I kind of want to wait for now at this point, like I might as well wait for season two to vanish. Sure. I guess so. I mean, I, you know, I, I think we have different philosophies around this, but the week to week thing, I love it. It's, uh, you know, for sure. But, uh, yeah, so severance season two is currently airing right now on Apple TV plus.

[00:25:00] I started with season one in January. Um, so I, in the two weeks leading up to season two, I just watched like an episode of severance a day and the season one finale of severance, one of the best finales I've ever seen. Uh, it's really incredible and ends on such a crazy cliffhanger that I was like, I can't believe people waited three years in between seasons for the show, which I think would have been a shorter amount of time. Then there was the writer strike and everything like that. So that, um, delayed the production of the show for a while.

[00:25:26] Um, but season two is airing right now. Uh, and it is still excellent. It's really, really good. If you haven't seen severance, the basic plot of the show is that it's, uh, Adam Scott and several other characters, including John Turturro, uh, and Zach Cherry, who, uh, they are all working at this company called Lumen.

[00:25:42] And they, it's a sci-fi show where, because they work at this company that does very top secret work. Uh, they are what's called severed. Uh, so they go into work and they, they're basically their, their mind turns into like a completely different self. Uh, they like completely sever themselves from their body, uh, when they are at work. Uh, and so your work personality could be like entirely different than who you are on the outside.

[00:26:08] And they only exist within the confines of the office, which I can imagine what that feels like. Yeah. Uh, and so what, what's really fascinating about the show is the way it kind of shows you, uh, the inside versus the outside and what's happening. But, uh, what's really happening like in throughout the first season is that, uh, the innies, uh, as they're called in the show are like growing increasingly kind of like restless, uh, and growing increasingly like, you know, we want a life on the outside, right?

[00:26:36] You know? Uh, and so they're kind of hatching plans in order to get out of there and all that kind of stuff. Um, and so it's, it, it's really awesome. Uh, the show takes so many insane twists and turns, uh, and this season has been excellent also. So if anybody hasn't caught up with severance, uh, it also is like one of the best directed shows on TV. It looks amazing. Uh, Ben Stiller directs a lot of the episodes. I was going to say, isn't he like the show runner or something? He is the, uh, executive producer slash like directs a lot of episodes. He's not the show runner, but he is like heavily involved and yeah, no, he kills it. He's like the show looks awesome.

[00:27:05] Um, and so yeah, severance highly recommend it's, uh, streaming right now on Apple TV plus also want to shout out another Apple TV show, which is mythic quest, uh, which I've talked about many times in this podcast. Uh, but season four is airing right now. Uh, and it is one of my favorite sitcoms airing right now. It's so, so good. Uh, and I think season three, I think is probably the weakest of the three previous seasons. Um, but it's, it's the one that like goes the furthest into dramatic territory, I think.

[00:27:29] Um, you know, and I, I still liked it quite a bit. Um, but it definitely felt like it had a different feel to it. A couple of the characters are separated from the rest of the group for a lot of the season. Uh, so that was kind of a weakness to it too. Uh, but those characters are back now and season four has just been hitting perfect sitcom notes, like nonstop for the first like four episodes.

[00:27:47] It's been really great. There's a murder mystery episode that just aired. That's so much fun. Uh, it's great. Uh, yeah, show is super funny. Uh, and so high recommend mythic quest, uh, which again, if you've never seen mythic quest and I feel like that's a show that like nobody is ever really talking about, but everybody who watches it seems to like it for the most part. It is a show about, uh, a group of people who work at a video game company that are putting on this like MNORPG video game called mythic called mythic quest. Uh, and Rob McElhaney is kind of the, uh, head creator of the game, uh, and hijinks ensue.

[00:28:17] It's really fun. The last of us showrunner Craig Mason is, uh, one of the characters. I don't know if he's still on it. I think he's only in the first season, but yeah, he pops up a couple of times. Yeah. That's fun. Yes, absolutely. So yeah. Mythic quest, uh, high recommend there. Uh, and then, uh, the other, the big TV events, uh, of this past weekend, uh, was SNL 50, uh, which might D as you know, I'm a huge, uh, SNL nerd. Uh, for better or worse of an SNL nerd. And so I was there watching it.

[00:28:45] I watched everything involving SNL 50. So there was a music documentary, uh, that's actually your parents turned me on to, um, weirdly enough, but that was called like ladies and gentlemen, the music of SNL, which was all about the history of the musical guests on SNL over the course of 50 years and all that stuff, which was really cool. Uh, there was a four part documentary series on Peacock, uh, which I watched all of, uh, which, uh, it was like hour long documentaries about like different aspects of SNL.

[00:29:08] There was one that's just about the writer's room, one that was just about the more cowbell sketch. Uh, one, one that's just about like season 11 of the show, which is like the really weird year where Lauren Michaels came back and like populated it with a bunch of like movie stars, uh, in the cast, all that stuff. Uh, so I watched all of those. Uh, there was SNL 50, the homecoming concert on Friday nights, uh, which was a concert at radio city that, uh, took place there, which was a bunch of, uh, people kind of paying tribute to musical acts of the show, uh, which included like Miley Cyrus performing a queen song, Eddie Vedder performing,

[00:29:38] Tom Petty. That was really cool. Um, uh, Devo was there performing B 52s were there performing. It ended with, uh, Jack White performing rocket in the free world and then seven nation army, which was pretty rad. Uh, and then in interspersed with all that, it was doing sort of like musical SNL stuff. So like the lonely Island had a medley song, uh, which was great. Uh, Will Ferrell and Al Gasteyer did the Culp's again, which was fun. Uh, Bill Murray did Nick, the lounge singer, all that stuff. So that whole thing was great. And it was all leading up to SNL 50, uh, the anniversary special, which aired on Sunday.

[00:30:09] Uh, it was a three and a half hour, uh, event, uh, basically a supersized episode of SNL, uh, with like hundreds of extra guests and cameos and all that stuff. And, uh, it was a lot of fun. It was a good time. Nice. It was a good time. Uh, yeah. What was interesting about it? Uh, I'm guessing you haven't seen any of this, Mike. Have you? Okay. Yeah. I mean, I watched the music documentary. Uh, that was pretty, that was pretty cool. Yeah. Uh, but that's it. Yeah. I don't know. I just culturally uninterested, which, you know, good for you guys. I'm glad you had that.

[00:30:38] It seemed fun. I like, you know, I've seen a lot of like clips and stuff online, uh, of the sketches from the SNL 50 stuff, but I haven't watched any of it. Yeah. I mean, what was interesting, it felt very like, um, you know, I was watching it live and it felt like a lot of times what SNL can often feel like is sort of like, I don't know, slipshod. Like there's often like, you know, there's miscues, there's like lighting, like mess ups, there's sound mess ups. And I felt like there was a lot more of them in SNL 50 than there usually is. Uh,

[00:31:05] and I think part of that is because so much of the show hinged on like all of these various celebrities being there and doing parts of it. And I'm guessing a lot of them just like, couldn't be at a rehearsal or whatever. They couldn't like, couldn't be there for that. Uh, so that might've been part of that too. Um, but what was interesting. So about 10 years ago, they did an SNL 40 special, um, which was very, very similar, you know, big three hour event, all that stuff. And I remember watching SNL 40 when that was airing. Uh, and that was very much about like, you know, it was about the legacy of the show. It really went back to the seventies and eighties and did a lot of that stuff.

[00:31:35] Did a lot of that stuff, brought a lot of those people back, had clips and all of that. Uh, and that was super fun. I think SNL 50 sort of does a better job of just being a very long episode of SNL where they're kind of just doing a lot of sketches and bringing back a lot of sketches basically. Uh, and so what was interesting about it is that there was some, you know, shout outs to the seventies and eighties, but it was really like a, if you were a fan of SNL in the nineties and two thousands, boy, this was the SNL special for you. It was, uh, yeah. Uh, which, you know, I was, that's when I was growing up watching,

[00:32:05] SNL. Right. And so it was all of those cast members coming back to do their characters. Uh, and so they're like Mike Myers was there, but they didn't do a Wayne's world. You know, they didn't, they didn't do any of that. He was there doing Linda Richman. Uh, and he was a guest on Bronx beat, uh, with Amy Poehler and Maya Rudolph, which was one of my favorite sketches growing up. That was great. Uh, but like they had Adam Sandler, like doing an SNL 50 song. They had Rachel Dratch doing Debbie Downer again, uh, which was amazing. That was super, that was super fun. And even the, and they were also kind of just building on like recent successes too,

[00:32:35] where it's like, Oh, here's Kate McKinnon doing the alien encounter sketch again. Here's they're doing the Domingo sketch again, which was like their viral thing from this year, you know, all, all of that stuff. So, uh, yeah, no, as a, as a pretty big SNL nerd, uh, it, uh, it represented like the best and the worst of SNL, I think. Um, and there was a ton of musical performances in that too. Uh, Miley Cyrus performed again, uh, Paul McCartney closed it out, uh, performing, uh, in the end, uh, which was pretty amazing. That was great. Uh, and it opened with like Paul Simon and Sabrina Carpenter performing

[00:33:03] Homeward Bound, which he had done with George Harrison back in like 1976 in the show. Uh, so that was, yeah, pretty cool. There was some fun stuff there. Uh, so yeah, had a good time with it. That's cool. Yeah. I was just thinking about my, like my SNL, uh, journey or whatever, which, uh, I, I was very into it, uh, like in middle school and high school, I guess, uh, when you're like not really supposed to be staying up that late kind of thing, you know, but that, that was the, um, I mean, and I may have my like eras mixed up, but you know,

[00:33:33] like the Jason Sudeikis and Will Forte and, and those guys. Yeah. No, my, my first episode of SNL that I watched like live for the first, like my first season of the show was 2005. And I remember it was, uh, like that was like the first season, like Andy Samberg was in the cast and like Jason Sudeikis was there and all that stuff. Yeah. Like that era is what I was actually watching SNL. But I remember also watching a lot of on comedy central would run like the one hour rerun edit version. And that was all I'm now real. Like I realized recently it was like, Oh, that was like the late

[00:34:03] nineties stuff. Like I thought that I was like, that was when I was watching. I said, I was like, Oh wait, no, I wasn't. I was there watching Will Ferrell when I was two years old. Exactly. Yeah. This is like, Oh yeah, no, I like in Chris Kattan and all those guys. And, and, uh, man, I mean, crushing it. Yeah. Um, and who, who's the, uh, Daryl Hammond was on it, but he was on it for 25 years or whatever. And Daryl Hammond was on for like 14 years. He's now the announcer. He's the one who does. Yeah. When, when Don Pardo died,

[00:34:33] they hired Daryl Hammond to be the new announcer. That tracks. Yeah. Um, and yeah, so like I, but I like have vivid memories of watching all those sketches and stuff and like, Oh, Oh, but I was like actually not around for those, uh, or, you know, I wasn't like watching the live version, the real versions of those sketches of that era. Uh, it's like, Oh no, I was watching them 10 years later on comedy central reruns. So anyway, yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. It's cool. That's still cool. Like whatever, man, I don't know.

[00:34:59] Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's a weird, like, you know, I, again, I'm an SNL like nerd, but I, I acknowledge a lot of the issues surrounding SNL and like whenever they get somebody to host, I'm like, Jesus Christ, why'd they get this guy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when Elon Musk hosted a few years ago or like, you know, Trump hosted, you know, during his presidential campaign in 2016, right? Like that, that shit was just, God damn it. And actually even today they announced the hosts for like March and like Shane Gillis is hosting March 1st. I was like, God damn it. Uh, which is also a weird journey that like he was supposed to be in the cast.

[00:35:29] And was fired before that even happened. Yeah. Uh, and then he came back to host the last year. Uh, and he was awful. Like that was like, it was a really like bad show. Like it was not a good show. Like he, like he did stand up at his monologue and it just like completely bombed with the audience. I was like, well, you know, at least he'll never come back. And, uh, literally the first show after SNL 15, it's Shane Gillis hosting. It's like, God damn it. Uh, so that's annoying. Uh, yeah. Week after that, Lady Gaga hosts musical guests. That should be pretty good. That's neat, I guess. Yeah.

[00:35:59] Uh, but yeah, it just, it just holds such a, a weird, you know, it's like all of culture would be different for the last 50 years if not for SNL. And it's, it is like an American institution in that way. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, it's interesting. Um, but yeah, it was a fun, it was a fun special SNL 50. It was a good time. Nice. Uh, all right. Well, what else have you been watching, Mike? What's, what's been on your list? What else have I been watching? Let's see. A, a crossed office, uh, a cult classic horror movie that I haven't seen ever.

[00:36:26] Um, and it feels like I probably should have at some point. Okay. And that is, uh, right in time for us recording this in the middle of February, uh, 1981's My Bloody Valentine. Nice. I saw this years ago and I, I feel it's the coal mining one, right? It involves that. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I remember this one. Yeah. And there was a big mega hit, uh, mega hit. I don't know, but I know it's very popular amongst that era of Platinum Dunes, uh,

[00:36:55] slasher remakes from when we were young. I don't know if this is a Platinum Dunes movie remake, but, uh, My Bloody Valentine 3D is like supposedly one of the, like, oh, it's actually a good one. Like, you know, from the Friday the 13th, I think Friday the 13th also is supposed to be a good one. Uh, I, I like the Friday the 13th remake. I saw that in theaters. I've not seen My Bloody Valentine remake, but I do know it has that reputation. I think that was directed by the guy who did Drive Angry, I want to say, Patrick Lucia. That sounds familiar from remembering back to season one of Complete Works. Yes. Um, but anyway,

[00:37:24] yeah, My Bloody Valentine 1981, this is a slasher movie that takes place in this coal mining town where there has been in the past, there is this, uh, disaster in the fifties, um, that, uh, a cave-in that left, uh, one man alive who went kind of crazy because he had to, uh, eat the other people that he would, he's, you know, they don't know if he killed them to eat them or whatever, but he was, cannibalism is how the only reason he survived for weeks in the mine, trapped. He went nuts.

[00:37:54] Uh, happened on Valentine's day. Um, and then the next year or something, there is a Valentine's day dance for the town, maybe where it's the fifties. We're swinging and hopping and doing that whole thing. Um, and he goes mad that they've forgotten the trauma that he went through and starts killing people. Now it's 30 years later in the eighties. Uh, and it started happening again. Um, I mean, that's, you get it. Like you, you understand what kind of movie it is just from that. Right. Um,

[00:38:23] and it's crazy, super violent, super bloody. Uh, it's, uh, he's cut, he cuts people's hearts out is there is his, uh, his MO as, as long, uh, uh, as well as his coal mining gear is like super iconic. I think it looks fucking awesome. Uh, with the headlamp and the man, the gas mask and the pickaxe and the all black. Um, and yeah, he starts picking off these horny teenagers that, uh, they're gonna, the, this starts happening again. So the town cancels their impending, uh, Valentine's day dance.

[00:38:53] So the teenagers who also work at the mine, uh, decide let's go to the mine and party since we can't party in town. And what do you know, they start dying one by one at the party. Uh, and it riffs. Yeah. I had a fun time, a real fun time with it. I didn't get a chance to watch, uh, some of the newer or one of the newer Valentine's day slasher movies, which may be coming up. Uh, we may be talking about soon, but yes. Um, I didn't get a chance to go see that. And I figured, you know what? I haven't got, I've never seen the original one. Um, so let me, let me check out my buddy Valentine. And I think it's on Shudder right now.

[00:39:23] I think there's like a, uh, like eat your heart out collection or something like that. They have it. It's called on there. Um, it's all, you know, like romance themed stars. Right. Um, so yeah, my bloody Valentine fun time. Nice. Yeah. I, I, again, I saw it years ago. I don't really remember too much about it, but I remember liking it. I thought it was pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's any, like, it's not the best of these kinds of slasher movies, but it's pretty good. It's got the unique Valentine's day twist. Uh, right. And all that it's, I think it's fun when there's like a, like Thanksgiving, Eli Roth's movie from a couple of years ago. Like, I don't know.

[00:39:53] It's just like a fun tradition that everyone's like, yeah. Cause I guess Halloween, uh, right. Like just by accident was about Halloween, like takes place on Halloween. So it's just like, they got all the holidays. Got to have a slasher. Yeah. If you, if you represent your, your holiday in a movie, there's a, there's a better chance that around that holiday, people are going to watch that movie. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. Check out, check out my bloody Valentine. I do. It did make me want to watch my bloody Valentine 3d. Cause I heard, I've heard that is pretty good. So maybe one day. Nice.

[00:40:20] All right. What else have you been watching, Mike? What else have I been watching? Um, I guess on the theme of horror, uh, love horror things, there is another Valentine's day horror movie that actually dropped on Valentine's day on shutter. Okay. From director Elric Kane, uh, his directorial debut called the dead thing. Nice. Now Elric Kane, uh, host of the pure cinema podcast, uh, which we've talked about on this show many times over the years. Uh, we've both been fans of that. He also hosts what colors of the dark, right? Colors of the dark. Yep. Which is,

[00:40:50] is the horror focused, uh, podcast. Yeah. So he's a big, big podcast guy. Um, this is his director or his feature debut. I think I heard him talk. I don't remember if he's like, I think he's probably, he's probably direct shorts before this. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, uh, this is on shutter and it's pretty good. It's all right. I mean, it's kind of cool. Yeah. I mean, so there's, you can tell it's a low budget thing, which, you know, you can, you can't really fault. Uh, and there's not really like any effects or anything that like look bad. It's just, you can see like, Oh, it, you know, you, you're shooting this one set

[00:41:20] from lots of angles kind of thing, you know, like, yeah, what are you going to do? Right. That's, that's most low budget filmmaking. Um, but this is a, uh, about this girl, this woman, uh, who's actually incredible played by blue hunt. Uh, she's like, I mean, she's really good. Uh, yeah, I think she does a really good performance because she is this woman that's just in, in a, uh, uh, like dating ruts, right. There's like, you see it, the hint there's something in her past, whatever. She's just in

[00:41:47] swiping right on everybody. Right. She's just in a series of endless, uh, meaningless Tinder, basically a Tinder hookups where it's like, we're not even going to, but we're going to have a single drink and they'd be like, okay, you ready? And then go back to our, like, go back to somebody's place. And it's like, we're not going to form any meaningful connections, anything like that until she meets this, like Mr. Right. Right. She meets this guy. They have, it starts that way. And they actually have this really a lot of interest. They have this immediate bond connection.

[00:42:16] And then, uh, they, they stay up all night talking the sunrise. Oh my God, it's the, it's tomorrow. I have to go all this stuff. Um, and then he ghosts her and I'm going to emphasize that he ghosts her. Um, and it hits that beat pretty early on. And then that's maybe my one complaint is like, and then that is it. They've kind of run out of juice on the story. Uh, and maybe it's, maybe it was like 30, like it's a pretty good, really good 30 minutes first

[00:42:41] act. Um, and once it reveals that, and I think there's a pretty good moment where you're like, she starts to spiral and it's this whole crazy thing. Um, and there's a little bit of a resolution to it and it just sort of like runs out of juice, I guess is what I, is how I sort of felt. I think it has a really cool concept. The performances are pretty good, but it doesn't, I think have enough. Like, I don't think it, I don't think it nails like a, like a emotional punch with that story. Um, is maybe the thing that's missing for it for me, but overall it's pretty cool. It's a good,

[00:43:08] you know, exciting. The Dick, a person I listened to podcasts for made a movie and that's cool, you know, and it's on shutter. I'm going to guess it's going to get a Blu-ray, uh, cause it's a yellow veil production, which is a lot of really cool stuff. I think a lot of the Adams family movies are produced with them also. Okay, cool. I think. Um, so yeah, see like it's cool. It's good. It's a cool experiment, but I don't think it really like, Oh my God, it didn't blow me away or like super grab me. Um, but that's, that's the dead thing. Okay. Yeah. I do want to watch that

[00:43:36] also. So yeah, that's on shutter. Uh, people should check that out, but I guess I should talk about the movie that you were alluding to before Mike and other, another romance horror that is out in theaters right now and people can go watch it. Uh, it's called hard eyes, uh, which is the new film directed by Josh Rubin, uh, director of such films as scare me and werewolves within, uh, I still haven't seen scare me yet. Uh, yeah, I know you're a huge fan of that one. I was going to say all the times I've watched that and it's never been with you. That's crazy. Yeah. No, well I live in a different part of the country. Like,

[00:44:04] yeah, but I was there one time. Yeah. Uh, well you did maybe watch a lot of other dropout stuff at that time. So I did see some Josh Rubin at that moment, but yeah, so Josh Rubin, uh, you know, was involved with college humor back in the day and it's still pretty heavily involved with dropout. Uh, and so if you may recognize him as one of the noise boys from make some noise, uh, if you ever watched that show, he's also been on game changer and all that kind of stuff. Uh, but yeah, he's been directing movies the last few years. I have not seen scare me, but I really liked, uh, where it was within. I thought that movie was really, really fun. Maybe the best video game movie of all time. Yeah. It's one of

[00:44:34] those things. It's like, technically this is a video game movie. Yes, exactly. Uh, and so now Josh Rubin's back with a new, uh, horror comedy. That's kind of the realm that he likes to work in. And what's really fun about this one is that it is like, it's almost like romantic comedy first and then horror movie second. Um, but I think it does both very, very well. Uh, it starts Olivia Holtz, uh, who was on cruel summer, which was an ABC family show that I watched a couple of years ago. And then also Mason Gooding, who is a, one of the kids in the new scream movies. Uh, yes. Uh, and so the two of them, uh, Olivia Holtz like

[00:45:04] works at this company, Mason Gooding, uh, ends up coming into the company. Uh, it's like an advertising firm and he is sort of there to help, like kind of help her do her job. Uh, but she's worried that she may be, he may be replacing her, but they have a, an immediate spark. Uh, there's a chemistry there, uh, and they're not actually dating and she's very resistant to it. Um, but you know, they, they're circumstances keep like pushing them together in wacky ways. Right. Yeah. Uh, at the same time, uh, the hard eyes killer is on the

[00:45:31] loose. And so they, they kind of set it up where like for the past couple of years, every Valentine's day, the hard eye, the hard eyes killer shows up in a different city and is killing couples on Valentine's day. Uh, and this time around it happens to be in Seattle where they are and he has his sights set on them, even though they're not technically a couple. Uh, and the killer thinks they're a couple. That's a great, like cute, like, uh, and so the two of them are, you know, trying to survive, uh, Valentine's day while being

[00:46:00] pursued by the hard eyes killer. Uh, the design of the killer is really, really fun. Uh, the reveal of the killer is really, really fun. Uh, and the supporting cast surrounding them, uh, Devin Sawa and Jordana Brewster play these two detectives. Uh, the detectives are named Hobbs and Shaw and that's a good bit. It's, it's, it's pretty funny. And so, yeah, no, I had a really good time, uh, with hard eyes. I think it's really, really fun. It's really brutal. It's like really, really gory and very, in very fun ways. Uh, and it has a lot of fun with the

[00:46:27] premise. Uh, so yeah, it's, it's worth checking out hard eyes. Uh, it's in theaters right now. People should watch it. Nice. Yeah. Maybe I'll go with the weekend. I thought I kind of assumed it was gone already, but yeah, I don't think it's like doing particularly well. Um, so yeah, I think maybe this weekend would be the time to go see it just in case, uh, you might not get the chance, but it is very, very good and I highly recommend. Uh, and it's very cool to have a Josh Rubin win as a, as a big dropout convert, uh, over the last couple of years, uh, after you visited

[00:46:55] my house and maybe watch like hours of game changer, uh, made, you know, made at first and then, you know, was willingly participating in it, uh, very quickly. But yeah. And, and Josh Rubin does have a cameo in this movie at one point. Uh, and I, I did the Leo point like I, nobody else in the theater knew who this guy was, but I was like, Hey, that's the guys. It's one of the noise boys. Um, and so yeah, hard eyes is really fun. Uh, and then speaking of, you know, relationship horror actually, uh, there's another one out in theaters right now, which is companion.

[00:47:25] Oh yeah. Uh, which is also really fun. Had a great time with companion. Uh, this one stars Sophie Thatcher, uh, as this girl who's going out on a retreat, uh, with, uh, her and her boyfriend played by Jack Quaid. And then it's like a bunch of his friends. There's just like in a cabin, like a really, really nice cabin in the woods. It's not like an evil dead cabin in the woods. This is like, this is a rich person's cabin in the woods, right? Uh, and so they're out there at the cabin and then, uh, things take a turn. Uh, if you've seen the first trailer for companion,

[00:47:52] but you haven't seen anything else. I was actually so mad when I saw the second trailer before, I don't know what, but before something, Oh no, probably. Probably. Yeah. I was so fucking mad because it's revealed all the stuff. Uh, the second trailer is really, really spoilery, uh, which is, is a bummer. I mean, you know, the, the reveal that that trailer reveals does happen like, you know, by the end of act one, like it's, you know, it pretty early on in the movie. Um, but it is one of those things was like, Oh man, if you didn't know that going in,

[00:48:21] whoa, baby, that would have been crazy. Uh, and instead it's, it's still really fun. It's a good time. Um, but I, I felt a little bit robbed of that surprise, uh, which was a little bit of a bummer. Um, but Sophie Thatcher is great in it. She's really fun. Jack Quaid is, uh, really smarmy and like kind of, uh, you know, a douchey boyfriend, uh, plays that role very well. He also did the same thing in Scream and yeah, it's, it's kind of a variation of what he was doing in that movie. Uh, yeah, no companion. It's, it's, it's also really good. I think I prefer hard eyes,

[00:48:49] but companions a lot of fun too. Nice. Yeah. Like genuinely took so much wind out of my sails on like, I need to see companion as soon as I can. Uh, to like, I guess I'll wait for like, I mean, it's cool. Like I still want to see it, but, uh, like, yeah, just immediately having all of the mystery, um, take it out of the movie in the first 10 seconds of a trailer. Yeah. All right. It truly is like, yes, it is the basic premise of the movie, but that's a premise that's not revealed to you for a while. And it's once you find it out, like if you didn't know it ahead of

[00:49:18] time, man, that would have been crazy. Yeah. It's like how cool would have been to not know Abigail was about vampires, right? Right. It's, it's very similar to that. I mean, it was, it's very much, this is from, uh, it's not directed by the director of barbarian, uh, Zach Kregor, but it's produced by him. Uh, and so all the trailers were like from the unhinged creators of barbarian and barbarian when that was coming out, like everybody was like, don't watch a single trailer, go in completely blind. And I really wish there was

[00:49:44] like a, a more concerted push for companion to have the same thing. Yeah. Uh, but alas, not the case in any case, but it is a lot of fun. So hard eyes and companion, uh, both relationship horror movies that are out in theaters right now and, uh, well worth checking out. Yeah. And the dead thing on shutter. Kind of worth checking out. Yeah. I am going to watch that at some point just as a, as a pure cinema devotee from way back. I do it. I owe it to Elric, you know, it's, uh, uh, what else you been watching, Mike? What else

[00:50:11] is on your list? Um, also speaking of relationship horror. Okay. There's a theme here. There's a theme here. Uh, not really, but I did watch Jonathan Glazer's birth. Oh, nice. I guess is a relationship horror story. Yeah, kind of. Uh, yeah, I would say so. A horrific relationship story. That's probably a better way to describe it. Uh, this was one of my favorite discoveries of, uh, 2024. This is, I, this is on my list. Yes. Yeah. And that was part of the reason

[00:50:38] I wanted to watch it. Cause I did really love, uh, sexy beasts and of course, uh, zone of interest. Um, which is a weird thing to say you'd love, but I did enjoy those movies and you talked about how good birth was. And then I was on criterion channel and it's got the like leaving soon thing and birth was in the script and I was like, I got it. Well, here's my chance. I got to watch it. Um, so yeah, I watched birth and, um, yeah, what a, what a fucked up movie, crazy, crazy story. Uh, this is of course, if you don't remember Mike

[00:51:07] talking about it, the stars, uh, uh, Nicole Kidman who is a widow at the beginning of the movie. Her, her husband dies like in the opening credits basically. And then, uh, she is now it's 10 years later. She's, she's finally ready to open up potentially to moving on. And she's now engaged to Danny Houston who, uh, is just a scary person whenever he's in movies. Um, so love that. And, uh, they're having this big engagement party. Actually,

[00:51:34] it's not here where this happens, but, uh, anyway, she's, they're engaged and, uh, this new, this boy who is played by Cameron Bright, who's a 10 year old boy. Yeah. Shows up to their apartment and says, I need to speak to you. Uh, I'm your husband. I'm, I'm your dead husband reincarnated. Well, he doesn't say reincarnated, but right. But that's basically the idea, right? That's what's going on. Yeah. And that, uh, he knows basically like he eventually they're like, okay, but we'll get, get out of your

[00:52:03] child. Um, right. Um, uh, but eventually he keeps coming back. There's a reason he's in the apartment building so much with his father doing his tutor music lesson, whatever. Um, he keeps, he keeps bothering them and reveals ultimately that he knows some stuff about her and, and things that only her husband would know, uh, about her personal life and like about the objects in their house. Like, Oh, this is, this was my desk. I used to do stuff like whatever, you know, there's this whole scene with that. Um, and maybe she

[00:52:32] kind of falls under his, not under a spell, but she's like so traumatized by the loss of her husband. She's like willing to accept like what? Maybe like if there's any chance that he might be coming back to me, I have to take it. Right. Right. And he does keep like giving information that's like only the husband would know. Right. Right. Yeah. There's this really wild, also Lauren Bacall's in this movie. She's incredible. Um, uh, there's, um, yeah,

[00:52:57] a moment where she asks, uh, the boy, um, who's the person that told me that Santa is not real. And he says like, I don't know, but I'll, I will know when it happened, like whatever, like I'll know it when I see it basically is his answer. Yeah. And yeah, he goes to their apartment and there's a moment where somebody is, is like challenging him a little bit and he's like, you're the one that told her there's no sand. And he's just like, and that's kind of the, the moment where she starts to give into it. Right. Like,

[00:53:25] well, okay. What if though? And yeah, just sort of explores that. Uh, and it's wild. And who plays, um, the other girl and H right. Yeah. She's awesome. The other woman, right. That it's revealed that the husband was having an affair and actually didn't love, uh, according to an H, who is the person that was having an affair with. Yeah. Um, didn't love Nicole Kidman's character. And there's this whole thing. And I feel like maybe the ending doesn't really clearly explain it. Cause

[00:53:52] it's sort of just as like, well, okay then, you know, like it sort of has that sort of ending to it. Um, but it is really powerful. It's really beautiful. Like it is, it is fascinating to like we talked about what I think when you talked about this, like Jonathan Glazer's arc from sexy beast, which is this highly stylized, crazy criminal underground movie, uh, to zone of interest. Um, and just seeing his next movie birth, you're like, Oh, wait a second. I'm beginning to see the bend of this arc. You can see the transition happening here. Yeah. Yeah. I've never actually

[00:54:20] seen under the skin, uh, which, so I do want to watch that now. Cause of course then I'd be done with all the Jonathan Glazer stuff movies, um, or his features at least. Um, but I can see the, you can be, see the beginning of the transition of that, the highly stylized, crazy fuck is every other word. Um, sexy beast to like the very serious intense, uh, zone of interest. And just right here on this very next movie, it's beginning to make that transition. So I'm excited to see, to watch under the skin, which I know is also the, you know, very, uh, strange and weird and slow

[00:54:50] and interesting and interesting and things like that. Um, so yeah, that's a, that's birth from Jonathan Glazer, which is leaving the criterion channel, but I'm sure is available other places. Yes, absolutely. Birth well worth watching under the skin, also well worth watching. And also, you know, who's in under the skin, Mike, who's that, uh, is Adam Pearson, uh, who is also in a different man, which I watched recently. Whoa, Captain Segway. He's here again. He strikes again. Uh, yeah, no, a different man, uh, is a movie that, uh, I was kind of curious about. Um,

[00:55:19] so Adam Pearson, uh, is in under the skin. He's in a different man. Uh, he is an actor who suffers from like a neurofibromitosis. Uh, so it's his whole face is, you know, just different, right? It looks, it looks very different than a normal face. It's, uh, it's a lot of different like cracks and edges and all that kind of stuff that are happening there. He's also very short, all, all that stuff. Uh, and that's obviously something that's very difficult, uh, for him as an actor, but like he, he's ended up like carving a great niche for himself, uh, and was in under the skin and is in

[00:55:48] this new movie, a different man. Uh, and man, this movie rules. It's incredible. I, that's what I've heard. So what I was expecting from a different man, I knew that Adam Pearson was in it. I knew Sebastian Stan was in it. And, uh, like, I didn't really know anything else about the movie. I certainly didn't know that it was like a really, really intensely dark comedy. That's what I've heard. Uh, so what I expected it to be, uh, like I knew it was about Sebastian

[00:56:13] Stan, like playing a role, uh, and like interacting with Adam Pearson and like sort of him being like, you know, I, I, my perception of what the movie was, was like, Oh, it's Sebastian Stan and Adam Pearson. And he's like an actor who's going to shadow him and he's going to learn they're not so different, you know, all that kind of stuff. That's sort of what I was expecting. And what the movie is instead is so much better than that. Uh, it is a movie where Sebastian Stan

[00:56:38] actually is also somebody who has that disorder. He has a neurofibromitosis, right? Uh, and the makeup effect of that is so good for the first like half of the movie that I thought Adam Pearson had, I thought I was watching Adam Pearson. Wow. Um, and I was like, when does Sebastian Stan show up? Um, no, in fact, I was actually watching Sebastian Stan just with all that makeup. Right. And so the plot of the movie is that he has this thing that's like really limiting him as an actor. He like,

[00:57:06] he's an actor, but he can only get roles that are like, Oh, like he gets like a, you know, an office, um, like PSA video where it's like, treat your coworkers with respect, even if they look like this, like that, you know, that kind of thing. Right. Uh, and that's like the only role that he can get. Uh, and so, uh, he goes, he does this like very experimental procedure that gives him the face of Sebastian Stan, uh, and like kind of eradicates his old life. But what ends up happening is that

[00:57:33] the one neighbor that he, uh, he had connected with, uh, who's played by Renata Reinceveille from the worst person in the world. Uh, she's a playwright and she has actually written a play with featuring that kind of character in a lead role that he would have been perfect for. Right. Uh, now he looks like Sebastian Stan. Yeah. Now he looks like Sebastian Stan, but he's like pretending to be a different person. And so he's trying out for that role and trying to put on like makeup and like masks in

[00:57:59] order to, to do it. Uh, and at the same time, Adam Pearson walks into the movie and he's the most charming, affable guy you've ever met in your entire life. And, uh, everybody's instantly charmed by him. Uh, and so it's Sebastian Stan's character, uh, just going down this like psychological rabbit hole of like being replaced by this guy who has the same disorder that he did, but he was so like ashamed of it. Uh, that he like changed himself in order to like fit into society better. And it's destroying his

[00:58:25] life as a result. The movie is so funny. The movie is so funny. Adam Pearson's amazing in it. Uh, and Sebastian Stan's also incredible in it. I feel, I feel like Sebastian Stan is somebody who I've always thought, I've always thought not that much of, I guess. I, and it's mostly because of the Winter Soldier stuff. Um, and we've talked about the Winter Soldier a lot on this podcast where it's like, yeah, I don't really care about Bucky. You know, I feel like, I feel like the movies never really gave me enough to go on with Bucky where I was like, I care about him only in as much as like, well,

[00:58:55] he's Captain America's best friend. So because Captain America cares about him, I guess I care about Bucky. Uh, but I never really felt like Bucky like really took off on his own. And I maybe misguidedly like blame Sebastian Stan for that. I do think Sebastian Stan's been very good in a few different movies recently. Um, he was in fresh that Hulu, uh, slasher, uh, not a slasher, but that's kind of like dark horror movie, which, uh, cannibalistic horror movie, which I really liked. Uh, and he was really good in that. Uh, and he was also in the apprentice, uh, this past year,

[00:59:23] uh, which I watched where he plays Donald Trump. And, uh, you know, I think the movie itself is okay. I think he's given like a really interesting performance as Donald Trump, uh, where it really feels like the first half of it feels, it doesn't feel like it's like kind of checking off the boxes of like a Trump impression. It's like doing something else. Uh, by the end he is kind of just doing a Trump impression, but it's like kind of built up to the, to that point. Uh, but a different man, he's unbelievable. And it's, and the movie is so, so funny. It's well worth checking out. It's,

[00:59:50] it's so different than what I was expecting it to be. Uh, and I think much more worthwhile as a result. Uh, it's streaming on HBO max. People should watch it. Nice. Yeah. I heard it's really good. Um, and it's, we always love to see, uh, a actor cash in those checks from a big major franchise, big major, whatever, and go make weird, crazy shit. Um, you know, like Robert Pattinson or whatever. So, uh, I definitely am somebody that gave Sebastian Stan no benefit of the doubt at all

[01:00:17] is like, this sucks, but not that he's bad, but like who gives a shit about Bucky? I don't understand it. Um, and, uh, it turns out maybe I was wrong. Maybe, you know? Yeah. Uh, so there you go. So different man streaming HBO max right now. And speaking of, uh, movies that end with the word man, uh, I also, okay. A little tenuous, but a little tenuous. Although there's been a few of those recently. Uh, and I'm going to tee you up for your, your man movie in a minute. Uh, but, uh, I also watched better man, uh, which is the, uh, Robbie Williams biopic. I just watched this

[01:00:45] last night. Uh, monkey movie, the monkey movie. Yeah. Uh, and so I am one of the many Americans who had no idea who Robbie Williams was. Yes. Not at all. Never once heard of him. Uh, yeah. Just did not make his way over to the States. Um, but, uh, I was curious about this movie, um, because you know, music biopics I'm, I'm pretty hit or miss with. Um, but you know, I, I do enjoy a well-crafted music biopic. I thought a complete unknown was pretty solid. Uh, I liked that one quite a bit. And so better man, what is interesting about it is it, uh,

[01:01:13] replaces Robbie Williams with a CGI monkey. Uh, and that is like the, the movie central conceit is that like, well, Robbie Williams is always a little less evolved than his peers. And so we decided to make him a monkey in the movie, uh, which is a pretty funny idea. And it also is like an easy way to get it, to get it to be like, oh, and now we can actually have Robbie Williams like performing the role because it's, you know, I mean, there is somebody else who like does, uh, it's, it's a combination of a few different things, but I know he'd like provides all the singing and stuff like that. And I think the narration of the film, all

[01:01:41] that movies. Okay. I don't know. I feel like I said this movie completely bombed to the box office in the U S uh, it played for like one day at my local AMC and they pulled it. Like they just didn't, they got crazy. Cause I was, I was considering going to see it like that opening weekend. And then like I was going to go Sunday and it was gone. Like it was just not there. And so this movie bombed in the U S but like almost immediately developed like a pretty big cult following online. Like people, uh, were really into it because it is a pretty well directed.

[01:02:11] Like there's a lot of musical sequences in it. Uh, and it's directed by Michael Gracie who also directed the greatest showman. Um, so it's somebody who has a musical background and, uh, does do a lot of good work to like stage all these Robbie Williams songs, uh, as like big musical set pieces. And there is some fun inventive stuff here. I think the problem is that the music itself is not very good. Okay. All right. That's my, that's my main issue, uh, with the movie is that yes, there are all these like big music set pieces that are pretty fun, pretty inventive. The rock DJ

[01:02:39] sequence is pretty fun and that's probably the best scene in the movie, but like it's all in service of what, you know, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know. I, this it's, there was such a, I have such a weird backlash to this movie in that it's one of those things where, you know, it came out and it became this, like the moral imperative of everyone on Twitter or whatever being like, don't you want to support bold original filmmaking? If you don't, if you don't want cinema

[01:03:05] to die, you have to see better man, better man is the name of the better man. Yeah. Um, you have to see better man. And I was like, I don't know. I kind of want to want to see movies, you know, like I just am not interested, like I'm sure it's cool. I'm sure that every, like everything. And, and yes, it is a, it's not apparently just a wrote bio musical biopic or whatever. And with the whole monkey thing and all that stuff. And I was just like, yeah, okay, whatever. It's not for me. I'm good. You know? Yeah. You'll say, I mean, you're, you see bold original stuff. You're

[01:03:32] going to, you'll probably see Mickey 17 when that's coming out or whatever. Right. Yeah. Like I'll be there for that. That one's going to bomb. I'm going to be there for that movie. Um, so yeah, it's interesting that you, uh, saw it and didn't have that reaction. Cause everyone else apparently was like, Oh my God, this could have saved cinema. Yeah. No, I don't think it would do that. Um, it's, it's okay. I think it's fine. There's some cool musical sequences in it and the VFX for the monkey are really good. Um, like I have heard that they're

[01:03:59] like, like planet of the apes level. Yeah. It's, it's pretty seamless stuff. Uh, to the point where like when you're watching, you kind of forget you're watching a monkey after a while, which is kind of interesting, but yeah, better man. It's okay. Had an okay time with it. It's not great. Um, but it, I'm in the minority on that one, I guess. Uh, it's, you know, uh, and I think part of it is like, I just don't connect to the music of Robbie Williams. That's my, that's my, you're in the minority of people who saw the movie and then the minority of people that saw the movie and

[01:04:25] didn't like it. Yes, exactly. Um, but yeah, better man. I think it's available to rent, uh, somewhere. You can do that right now. Uh, and then you also saw one of the man movies and I saw this as well, but, uh, tee it up, Mike, what do you got? Yeah. Speaking of movies that end in man that are about a creature instead of a person, I saw Lee Wannell's new movie, Wolfman. I also saw Wolfman. Is that right? Yeah. I, I kind of liked it. That's really all I got. Um, I think the first

[01:04:50] 10 minutes are like, Oh baby, here we go. When it's the kid version and it's with his dad and he's in the woods and, and that whole sequence and like the cold open pre-credit stuff is great. I think or whatever. I would go so far as to say I really, really liked the first like third or first half of the movie. Um, yeah, well, so those first 10 minutes like really stand out and then the next section is still pretty good. Um, but once they, uh, get to the house, yeah. Once they get to the cabin, it starts to, you know, kind of fall apart a little bit.

[01:05:18] It's like, okay. And we've, we ran out of juice, you know, like same day, like, okay. Ran out of ideas. I think whatever, you know, allegory for passing on of trauma from father to son. And I don't know, weird shit like that. I feel like there's a much less clear, I feel like the movie is much less, uh, has a love man. My thoughts are much less clear. Um, less cogent, uh, allegory than invisible man did. Sure. Right. Uh, I feel like this kind of gets a

[01:05:46] little muddled between all those things and, um, that's fine. I guess. I mean, the performances are pretty good or at least, uh, what's his name? Christopher Abbott. Is he the main guy? Yeah. Christopher Abbott is the main character who, of course he was on girls for the first two seasons, but, uh, the titular wolf man, yeah, he's the titular wolf man, but he was also, he was an possessor, uh, and yeah, he's amazing at possessor. He's so good. Yeah. Yeah. And he's really good in this too. Uh, he's trying, he's trying his hardest, I think is really how it comes down. Um, I think the, the makeup effect is like, is not, I don't know. It's, it's a, it's well

[01:06:16] crafted makeup. I just don't think it like looks particularly good for like this wolf man, I guess. Yeah. It feels weird. Like I, I do deeply admire the attempt at a prosthetic and, uh, practical wolf man effect, but it, I don't know, just doesn't look that good. It is like clearly just a dude running on all fours at some point, you know, I just like, that's not that scary. Um, that's strange. Uh, I think, I think there is glimpses of really cool stuff. Like the, the whole, um,

[01:06:46] shifting perspective thing where as he becomes more and more transformed, he loses his ability to understand and communicate with you. Like, yeah. Although it is pretty funny that it is just like, this is how they show dogs perspective in cartoons. Like when you'd stop and think about it. Um, like they start to sound like Charles, the Charlie Brown teacher, right. Uh, stuff, but that's pretty cool. I think that's a clever idea to start to switch between those two perspectives where it's his wife and then him and the, the lack of communication. There's just something

[01:07:15] between them. Like, I don't know if you understand it. They're not communicating well in their real life. Right. Here they are. And that manifest physically if you're not, if you're not understanding it. Um, but that stuff is cool. That effect, it looks cool. Um, yeah, it's all right. It was fine. I was expecting and hoping for a lot more coming out of invisible man. Yeah. Yeah. Love both of those movies a lot. Um, and I think it looks like, I think there is cool direction and stuff. I just think maybe the story doesn't really come together enough or the monsters part doesn't

[01:07:44] really come together enough. I don't know. There's a whole like, uh, prepper doomsday, like right wing thing. That's like in the background of this movie that they don't really like flesh out or talk about or understood or like explore at all. Um, but that opening 10 minutes with his dad in the basement with the CB radio or like that whole shit. Um, so, um, yeah, it's, it's okay. Wolfman's fine. Yeah. I think, I think I liked it a little bit more than you did, but I, I do think after once they get to the cabin, like everything up to that, I was all in, I thought it was really,

[01:08:14] really good, really effective. Like the, uh, the whole sequence where, uh, you know, the car is stuck in the tree and the guy, you know, all that crash and all that. Yeah. Uh, and then, yeah, once they get to the cabin, everything kind of starts to slow down. And I think there is like sporadic moments that are like really fun throughout. Uh, but it definitely like feels like it loses something once they get there. Uh, which is a bummer because again, uh, invisible man is so good. Uh, yeah. I really, really likes that movie. Uh, and yeah, I, I was hoping for more

[01:08:40] out of Lee when else Wolfman, but oh, well, yeah, I don't know. And it's like, are they still going to try, are they still trying to resurrect the dark universe stuff? I feel like there was another announcement with Lee when L and these movies, but I might be conflating that with, uh, Robert Eggers, Wolf were wolf. Yeah. Oh yeah. Robert Eggers is also doing his own like wolf movie thing. Um, which is his, is his follow up to Nosferatu, which is interesting. Um, it's like, it's a werewolf, right? I think that's what they're calling it. Yeah. It's just spelled funny because it's supposed to be in the 1400s or some shit.

[01:09:10] Werewolf. Uh, yeah, it's the vich all over again. Yeah. Uh, yeah, no, there's that. Um, I, there's going to be like two Frankenstein movies this year. I think one of them is universal. That might be what I'm thinking of. Yeah. Uh, which is, I think one of them is universal, which would be the one that's like connected to all this, but I, I don't think they're doing any kind of big crossovers or anything like that. I think they're kind of just like, let's, let's make a wolf man. Let's make it. Let's just license these out. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just do them. Uh, and so yeah, there's one, I mean, Guillermo del Toro has his Frankenstein, um, which is going to

[01:09:37] be a Netflix thing. Although according to like a recent report, it's going to get like a decent theatrical release from what I understand, uh, which that's cool. That's exciting. Uh, so yeah, Guillermo del Toro has his, and then Maggie Gyllenhaal has her, uh, Frankenstein. Which I think is called the bride. I think it's like more about the bride of Frankenstein. Yes, that's right. Uh, so I think that one is universal. So that's sort of them like kind of continuing that trend a little bit. Cool. Yeah, I'm into it. Frankenstein's my guy. Uh, of all the universal monsters, Frankenstein's my guy. Really? Yeah. And, uh, if I, so I've watched

[01:10:06] a lot of those movies, like the original universal monster movies and the ones that I always like connect to the most with the Frankenstein ones. Um, I, I think Frankenstein, bride of Frankenstein and son of Frankenstein, perfect trilogy of movies. They're great. Um, I don't think I've ever seen son of Frankenstein. So son of Frankenstein is just young Frankenstein, but played straight. It's, uh, like the, the plot of young Frankenstein is lifted directly from son of Frankenstein. Uh, but in son of Frankenstein, uh, Bella Lugosi plays Igor. Uh, Oh yeah,

[01:10:32] that's right. And, uh, it's more of like an action movie than the first two. Uh, and it has like this big kind of climactic moment where the Frankenstein monster, it's the last one that Boris Karloff did, uh, played Frankenstein in, uh, the Frankenstein monster like has to save like a little girl from like a burning building. And he's like, just, he like goes down on a rope and like does a Tarzan swing. It's awesome. It's really, hell yeah. That's cool. Yeah. So, uh, well worth taking a son of Frankenstein, but yeah, Frankenstein is my guy. So I'm happy. I'm excited

[01:10:58] that 2025 is the year of Frankenstein once again. Uh, any other movies that you had on your list, Mike? I think you have one or two more, right? I have one more. Yes. I have one more movie, um, which also kind of a relationship horror. Not really sure. Relationship movie, but, uh, you know, horror in the way that sometimes being loved is horrific, you know, whatever, but that is, uh,

[01:11:22] that is the feature debut from, uh, Charlotte Labone, which is Falcon Lake. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to talk about foreign correspondent. Uh, so that's, Oh shit. I forgot about foreign correspondent. I was so wrapped up in connect, trying to connect to these movies. All right. Just zigzagging all over the list. Yeah. So I got two more. Tell us about Falcon Lake, Mike. Yes. Uh, Falcon Lake, um, is a coming of age story wrapped up in a ghost story, sort of

[01:11:48] question mark. I was so excited. Sorry. This is a, um, movie that is about this, uh, family, these families that, um, like get gather for the summer at this lake house. Um, you get the sense that they haven't done this in a while. It's, it's, I forget they mentioned like, Oh, last time you were however many years old, I forget, you know, to the kids. And now there's, um, the story

[01:12:14] focuses on one kid who's 14, uh, and the family friend's daughter who's now 16. Um, and they're, they're burgeoning, uh, awakening, uh, so to speak. And, and just the relationship between them and how that starts as this weird, she doesn't want to be part, she doesn't like, she's mad. They're sleeping in her room, right? The kid, like the kids are, have taken over her room. She doesn't want anything to do with these losers, but she's like maybe a little bit different. You know, she's sort of into the occult and folklore and, uh, the story of this boy that drowned in the lake,

[01:12:44] uh, and his ghost now haunts the lake, um, that nobody believes her. And, uh, but the 14 year old boy like humors her and it's like, well, okay. You know, he's just kind of like goes along with it. And maybe she's, maybe he's not so weird, you know, like maybe we could be friends. Um, and I'm, I'm hamming it up, but it's like actually genuinely really heartfelt and, uh, and, uh, emotional. And yeah, they, they, she start to bond, they become friends. Uh, she starts like, he starts like helping

[01:13:11] her. She's got, she's doing this like art project of like taking pictures dressed up as, as the ghost and he starts getting involved and they, um, you know, start to become a little bit more than friends and the way that teenagers can become. Um, but then there are these older boys show up and they want to go party and they, from like townie kind of guys is what you get to feel. Uh, like they live at the lake or whatever. Um, and so they start going to house parties and drinking and smoking and the,

[01:13:38] the kid's 14 and he doesn't like know about this world. And it's that, that kind of, you know, uh, threshold age where you're becoming an adult, but really you're still, you're still just 14, like you're still just a child. Right. And, uh, just the way that that can be really alienating where you can't go to your parents and ask like, Hey, what is going, like, what is this? Cause it's embarrassing and icky and weird. Right. And, and all that. Um, and it's, and it's really emotional and heartfelt and powerful and it's like 90 minutes and it's just like, ah, chef's,

[01:14:05] chef's kiss. Uh, and also wrapped up with some horror, spooky stuff. I mean, it never goes like horror. Um, there's just always like, you know, lingering shots on a lake shoreline at dusk where it's like, that shadow is a little bit darker than the red. Like what is that? What could that mean? Right. And just like weird stuff like that, uh, and hearing creepy noises in the forest at night and stuff like that. So it's got just a little tinge of horror in the way that falling in love and being

[01:14:31] a teenager is a horrific experience. Um, uh, going on in, uh, wrapped around this, um, like really, uh, emotional and powerful coming of age story. So big recommend it. I think it's on shutter, which is strange. Uh, but it, that is Falcon Lake. Very cool. Sounds awesome. Yes. And something completely different. Yes. Going way back for this one. Way back. And much like the

[01:14:54] horror of being a teenager, your Europe was on the brink of war in 1939. I think that was seamless. I think that was perfect. Yeah. Just at the, at the threshold of becoming a continent at war. Um, but this is, uh, yeah, foreign correspondent by Alfred Hitchcock. Uh, this is, I think his first,

[01:15:18] if I read Wikipedia correctly, his first Hollywood movie. Um, and, uh, yeah, it comes out in 1940 and it is a story about a, um, a New York newspaper crime beat reporter, uh, gets sent by his editor to Europe because he's tired of the, the sort of politico foreign correspondent, like, uh, like report a journalist class that are really all just rubbing elbows and drinking on the company card basically and not actually getting stories. So he sends the hard dose crime beat detect the crime

[01:15:48] beat reporter, um, to Europe to find out what's going on. Um, and of course this guy does a little digging and gets involved in, uh, a story that maybe he's a man who knew too much. If you're familiar with any Hitchcock, um, any Hitchcock, uh, tropes. And yeah, he uncovers this, um, grand assassination body swap conspiracy thing, which maybe becomes my critique of the movie, but it's not really the

[01:16:13] point of a lot of these movies. Um, but like, it's just the most labyrinthine, like who the fuck, what are you doing? Like, who, like what is going on? Um, but it does also sort of make sense because it is about, uh, this sort of, uh, clandestine element attempting to topple governments into war. Like it's this group of people. I don't remember if they're like separate, like what even is going on? Like why they want, uh, Europe to the, to light the powder keg, so to speak. Um, they want Europe

[01:16:40] to explode into war, but they have a reason for it. Um, and there's a kidnapping and a body, like they kill somebody, but it's not the real guy and it's this whole thing. And if, and it's, and it's just cool, uh, cause it's just fucking, it's funny. Like I posted about this, that I was watching this. And when I finished it, I did the, like, you know, we used to have movies thing, but it's like, then I realized talk about an Alfred Hitchcock movie. Like, of course, like one of, one of the greatest

[01:17:04] directors ever made. One of the most famously movie, movie guys made a movie. Uh, and I'm like blown away by like, yeah, of course. Um, but yeah, it was really good. And this was one of the movies that was in contention for my birthday bylaw, I think. Right. Oh no, but yeah. My, yeah. My birthday bylaw. Right. Which we ended up talking about only angels have wings, but you were talking about originally doing any Hitchcock movie. Cause you really haven't seen that many. Right. Yeah. I realized I hadn't seen any, uh, like outside the eight here, like they're really famous,

[01:17:32] you know, right. Vertigo, Psycho, Rear Windows, that kind of stuff. Right. Yeah. North by Northwest, like those kinds of movies that I haven't seen some of the, the B tier stuff. Not even that, not to separate them like that, but just the slightly lesser known movies. Um, so I was like, let me, let me cross some of those off the list. But, uh, yeah, Foreign Correspondent, I think this was also in the like leaving soon, uh, category on Criterion channel. Yeah. Um, so I finally was like, Oh, you watched that too. Right after birth. No. Um, so yeah. And this movie is really fucking good. I don't know if you've ever seen Foreign Correspondent. I have. Uh, so when I was like 21,

[01:18:01] 22, I went down a big Hitchcock rabbit hole where I was watching a lot of those movies, a lot of the stuff outside the eight year. Cause I had the same kind of thing where I was like, I've seen all the big ones, but now it's time to watch a lot of the other stuff. Uh, and so I don't like specifically remember Foreign Correspondent because I think a few of them like really stood out. It was like, wow, I loved lifeboat or whatever, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then a few of them kind of like blended in. Um, and even though I liked them, I don't like remember them all that well. Is this the one that ends in the Statue of Liberty? Is there like a big Statue of Liberty set piece in this one?

[01:18:29] No. Ooh. Okay. I'm thinking of Saboteur actually is what I'm thinking of. Um, but yeah, but I remember liking it. I remember thinking it was good. Yeah. It's, it's really fascinating cause it's 19, it comes out in 1940 and it basically ends with like a direct to camera plea for America to join the war against Germany. Yes. Okay. I remember this. Yeah. He's like made it back to the reporter has made it back to London. I believe he's in London. Um, and he gets to her, actually he might be in New York. I don't remember. He, uh, he gets to a radio broadcast where

[01:18:59] he's, it is London because it's an air, it's a air raid is what's happening. He gets to London and he's going to deliver his, his like report of what's going on in Europe as the, uh, London starts to be bombed as like an air raid happens. Uh, and it's, he like the power goes out, but we can continue broadcasting. I'm not going to finish my story. Right. It's like his whole, we're not going to give up. And it basically turns, he like basically turns to the camera and is like, we need support here in the, in Europe needs our help. Like, and it's basically him begging America to join the war. Um, so yeah, that's, that's the end

[01:19:28] of foreign correspondent. Very cool. Yeah. All right. So that's foreign correspondent. Where's that? Is that available on criterion channel or anything like that? Mike, I think that's on criterion, but it might be leaving, uh, at the end of February. If I remember, I think it was in that leaving soon category. Okay. So you got a couple of weeks to watch it. Nice. Okay. Well, actually I wasn't going to talk about this movie, but it transitioned so perfectly from a foreign correspondent that I got to bring it up. This episode brought to you by segways. So I recently watched a movie from 1942 called to be or not to be, uh, the Ernst Lubitsch film, which stars Jack Benny and Carol

[01:19:58] Lombard, uh, also very much, uh, about, uh, the war raging in Europe at this time, uh, about world war two. Have you ever seen this movie, Mike? I think I've heard of it. Okay. I've never seen it to be or not to be is a kind of like screwball comedy movie that stars, uh, Jack Benny and Carol Lombard as these two, uh, famous Polish actors. The whole movie takes place in Poland, uh, in 1939. Okay. Go on. And they, they play these two like famous Polish actors who are part of like this big troop, uh, and then the Nazis invade. Uh, and so a few years

[01:20:27] pass, uh, and they are kind of like, you know, forced underground. They, you know, are trying to kind of just survive there. They don't really perform anymore, all that kind of stuff, but they end up getting embroiled in this sort of plots, uh, where this guy that, um, was, uh, they thought was on their side, a Polish guy. He's actually working for the Nazis. Uh, and so they end up being involved in, in this whole thing. But Jack Benny, like also thinks his wife is cheating on him the entire movie. Robert Stack, uh, is in the movie, uh, from unsolved mysteries. This is a very young

[01:20:56] Robert Stack. Um, and, uh, yeah, no, the movie's hilarious. It's a really, really funny, silly movie with Jack Benny and Carol Lombard, uh, just like destroying Nazis, uh, left and right. Like not like killing them, but just like humiliating them. Yeah. And it was made in 1942. Uh, so like the war is happening at the moment. Uh, and that, that's the kind of thing that I'm always kind of fascinated by when I'm watching like the great dictator or whatever, like in that same time

[01:21:23] period where it's like, it's incredible that this movie was made in 1941 and was like directly criticizing Hitler and all that stuff. Right. Uh, and so to see, to be or not to be, and especially like, you know, with everything going on right now, it's like, it's, it was kind of a comforting, you know, bomb, I guess, you know? Yeah. It's always so interesting to see the, uh, you know, stuff where it's like, you know, we didn't, nobody really knew what, you know, maybe not to the full extent people didn't know, but then you watch Casablanca or like any movie and they're like,

[01:21:51] everybody knew. Yeah. This movie mentions concentration camps. It mentions all that stuff. Uh, yeah, no, it's all there. Uh, so yeah, it's pretty fascinating as like a historical document, but also it's genuinely a very, very funny, silly movie. Uh, and so to be or not to be, it's on the criterion channel. Uh, people should watch it. Uh, I have a few other criterion channel movies that, uh, I wanted to give a shout out to actually, uh, one of which is down with love, uh, which is the, uh, new, uh, not a new movie. This is from 2003. Um, but it's direct by Peyton Reed who directed bring it on. And then also went on to be the director of the three Ant-Man

[01:22:21] movies. Uh, okay. Sure. Uh, down with love is a romantic comedy that is, uh, in the vein of the like Doris Day, rock Hudson, uh, sex comedies of the sixties. Okay. Uh, and so to that end, it's like a very, very stylized, heavy on production design and caution design movie featuring Renee Zellweger and Ewan McGregor. And it is so charming. It's so much fun. It feels like it's about to be musical at any single moment. Uh, and at the very end there is an actual song, but it just,

[01:22:48] it feels like at any moment they're going to just burst into song. Uh, and yeah, Renee Zellweger plays this woman who, uh, it becomes a world famous author by writing this book called down with love, uh, which, which is about, uh, you know, how a woman shouldn't need, doesn't need a man to feel pleasure. She can like, you know, pursue sex freely with that with any man doesn't need to be married or fall in love with them, all that kind of stuff. Uh, and so she becomes a very famous author overnight, uh, and like women all around the world become liberated, like as a result of it.

[01:23:15] And Ewan McGregor plays this like male chauvinist, like, uh, you know, world famous reporter who is now like in the doghouse because of his like womanizing ways. Uh, and so he decides to, uh, try to seduce Renee Zellweger. Uh, and they have this whole like, you know, back and forth thing going on. Great. It's so good. It's so charming. It's so much fun. Uh, this is a movie that I had heard about for a long time. Uh, it's the movie that when, uh, Peyton Reed was hired for Ant-Man, I remember people talking about this movie. He's like, yeah, this will be rules. Uh, and you know,

[01:23:42] Peyton Reed wanted to make a fantastic four movie set in the sixties and they never let him. Uh, and now watching down with love, I'm like, I'm now mad that they never let him, I don't know. Which it's fun. Like the fantastic four movie they're making now is sort of set in the sixties. Uh, and they're kind of, they kind of lifted that idea, but they didn't let Peyton Reed make it, uh, which is a little bit of a bummer, but down with love, it rules. It's on the criteria channel right now. Uh, it's got supporting characters, Sarah Paulson, David Hyde Pierce, uh, Rachel Dratch, Chris Parnell, like a lot of great people just pop up in this movie. Uh, so it's super fun. Uh,

[01:24:12] people should check it out. It's in there like a New York romance collection. Uh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, which is there now. Uh, and then I also watched 10 Popo, uh, which I had never seen and man, perfect movie. It's, it's fantastic. It's so great. Have you ever seen 10 Popo bank? I have not seen it. No, but I do know about it. Okay. So 10 Popo is about, um, our relationship to food really. Um, but the, the bulk of the movie is about, uh, this woman named 10 Popo who, uh, her husband has recently passed away and she's sort of running his ramen restaurant,

[01:24:38] but doesn't really know like what she's doing. Uh, and then she meets this like kind of these two truckers that kind of come by one of which is put by Ken Watanabe. Um, nice. Yes. Ken Watanabe and also Koji Yakusho is in this movie who was the star of perfect days, uh, which, uh, is he was my best actor winner at the mics this year. Uh, and yeah, no. So, uh, she meets these two truckers and they are like, yo, your ramen is terrible, but one of them decides to like help her, like actually like train her how to make ramen. And so a lot of the movie is just that it's like a Rocky esque thing where

[01:25:08] she's like, she's like learning how to do it. And it's like training montages about how to make ramen and all that stuff. Uh, and while you're doing all that, occasionally the movie will kind of drift off into other stories, uh, where you'll see like, you know, a group of businessmen going out to lunch, uh, and, you know, ordering food or whatever and like that kind of thing. And then famously there's like one, like a gangster who uses like food and sex. Uh, and so like, there's a moment where like he and this woman are like passing an egg yolk back and forth between each other's mouths. Uh,

[01:25:35] and you know, it's classic, all that stuff. Movie's fantastic. I was like hooked right away and it's really, really funny and like heartfelt, uh, and made me very hungry. Uh, I really wanted some ramen afterwards. Uh, so I hope you got some, I didn't, uh, wow. Uh, you know, I, my, my best option would have been the microwavable ramen that I have in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in Montana. Yeah. Yeah. There, there is a ramen place nearby, but there was also a snowstorm, so I couldn't, uh, couldn't make it out there, but tampopo it's fantastic. Well worth checking out. Uh,

[01:26:03] and then a couple of other recent releases I'll, I'll go through real quick here. Uh, one of them days, uh, which is the new comedy, uh, starring, uh, Kiki Palmer and SZA, uh, a delight, uh, really fun. I had a good time with it. Uh, it was, it was very fun to see this kind of like silly broad comedy in a theater again, you know, uh, supporting roles include cat Williams, little rail Howery. And, uh, it's about these, uh, two women who, one of which, uh, is about to like trying to apply for this job that, uh, she feels very qualified for, but isn't sure she's going to

[01:26:32] get. Uh, and it all takes place over the course of one day at the beginning of the day. It's like the last day before rent is due and the rent money has mysteriously disappeared and they have to try to figure out a way to get that rent money back. Uh, otherwise they're going to get kicked out of their place. Uh, but she also has to make her job interview later in the day too. So there's a whole thing going on. And so yeah, it's really fun. Kiki Palmer and SZA make a good duo. It's, it's a pretty funny movie and, uh, well worth checking out. It's, it's good time. Nice. I don't think I've ever even heard of that actually. No, it's a, I saw a few trailers. I

[01:27:01] honestly wasn't sold from the trailers that I thought it did not look very funny, but I'm glad I was like, I saw like enough people that were like, Hey, this is actually pretty good that I'm like, yeah, I got nothing to do on a Wednesday night. I'll go see one of the days. There you go. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, worth checking out. I also saw becoming Led Zeppelin, uh, which is a new documentary about the early years of Led Zeppelin. Uh, so it's very much about like the formative years. It's about like what they were all doing before they were in Led Zeppelin. Uh, and then ultimately, you know, the first like

[01:27:27] two years of being Led Zeppelin, it goes, it goes through, I think Led Zeppelin too, like the, it's kind of like where the documentary cuts off. So like at no point in the documentary, do you hear like stairway to heaven or anything like that? It's like, it just very heavily focused on like the early years of the band. Uh, so I don't IMAX, uh, which, so I think the documentary itself is like, okay. It's like, it's a solid enough documentary. It's like a kind of thing. Like if you watched it on like VH one, one day, you would have a fine enough time. It's talking head interviews with Robert Plant

[01:27:53] and, uh, John Paul Jones and I'm blanking up. Uh, yes, Jimmy Page. Thank you. Um, yeah, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page. And then there is like archival interviews with John Bonham also. And so yeah, it's talking heads with them and they're kind of talking about their experience, like before they were in the band and like the yard birds and all that kind of stuff. And then they lead up to like their first tour in America, all that kind of stuff. Uh, and then it ends at like Led Zeppelin too. Really the reason I wanted to give a shout out to it is that if you get the chance to watch this in IMAX, you're going

[01:28:20] to hear extremely loud Led Zeppelin music over the IMAX speakers. And like, it's worth the price of admission alone. That that's, that's pretty fun. Uh, I snuck in a beer and watched becoming Led Zeppelin, uh, in the IMAX theater and had a great time. Uh, it was really fun. Uh, so that's worth checking out. And then also wanted to give a shout out to the last show girl, uh, which is the new movie directed by Gia Coppola, uh, it stars Pamela Anderson in the lead role. And, uh, this

[01:28:46] movie is fantastic. I loved the last show girl. I wasn't expecting to, I thought it was going to be okay. And I was kind of blown away by how much I really liked it. Uh, Pamela Anderson plays this woman who has been in this, uh, you know, big Las Vegas production, uh, that has been like going on and on since the eighties. And she is the last one still from the original cast. It's part of it. Uh, it is now closing down. Uh, and so she is like having to figure out like her next chapter in her life, uh, while also navigating her relationship with her daughter, uh, who she very much neglected for most of

[01:29:15] her life because she was in the show. Uh, and the daughter like can't really see the value in the show. Uh, Dave Bautista is the guy who's running the show and man, I mean, Pamela Anderson's getting a lot of accolades for this movie. I think rightfully show she's really great. She's really great in it. Um, you know, and to a degree where it's like, like, wow, where was this? So this whole time, you know, like that, that kind of thing. Um, but she hasn't really been given like a lot of opportunities to do this kind of thing because she was often like kind of typecast as like, you know, she's the hot girl from Baywatch, you know, she's, she's barbed wire. I remember she had a

[01:29:45] sitcom on Fox that was called stacked. Uh, Oh my God. Remember that? Yes. Uh, and the, the, the title was a pun because she worked in a bookstore, but also she has boobs. Uh, not sure if you're aware of the multiple levels. Yeah. There's a lot of layers going on here. Uh, yeah. She's fantastic in the last show girl. And, uh, she's great. Batista though, like genuinely one of our finest living actors. I'm a huge Batista guy. Fuck yeah. And he's

[01:30:12] fantastic in this movie. Uh, yeah, no, everybody's really great in it. Uh, Kiernan Shipka is in this, uh, as well as a few other people, uh, that I'm kind of blanking on, but yeah, last show girl, it's great. Uh, I feel like it kind of went under the radar a little bit during award season that kind of like every once in a while people are like, Oh, we'll panel to Anderson get the Oscar nomination and it didn't happen. But, uh, yeah, I think she's more than deserving of it. And I think this is what I like it better than most of the Oscar movies that are in play this year. So, uh, yeah, worth checking out. Nice. Yeah. There you go. And then, uh,

[01:30:40] one last thing real quick, been watching some David Lynch stuff because, uh, David Lynch passed away. Uh, and so I was actually already in a twin peaks rewatch, um, before David Lynch passed away. That was one of my unemployment projects. And, uh, uh, and so I've been rewatching twin peaks. I finally finished season two. I'm going to, I'm going to watch a twin peaks firewalk with me tomorrow, uh, which I'm excited about that. Uh, but I, uh, the Roxy has been doing a David Lynch series, uh, which David Lynch, uh, a major figure in Missoula because he was born here. Uh, yes,

[01:31:08] this is the birthplace of David Lynch. Uh, and so at the Roxy, I went to go see Eraserhead, uh, which I had not seen since I was like 15, maybe 15 or 16 and man movie rocks. It's really good. I, I had forgotten how good, I don't think I liked it that much when I saw it when I was 16, you know, I just, I just wasn't ready for it. I don't think, but yeah, Eraserhead holds up. And then I also went to go see Blue Velvet, uh, which I've seen a few times. Um, but, uh, that I believe was my first David Lynch movie when I was like 16. Uh, and that one I liked a lot more

[01:31:35] than Eraserhead at the time. Uh, I remember the first, the, the first time I watched Blue Velvet, I finished the movie and then immediately afterward I went online and found out that Dennis Hopper had just died. Uh, and it felt very like, Whoa, I just watched the movie with him in it. Um, but, uh, yeah, he's still just horrifying in the movie and really, really great. Um, yeah. And it's also just like, it's, it's fun watching old David Lynch movies because it's like, ah, here's all the Twin Peaks people that pop up. Kyle McLaughlin's a star of Blue Velvet. Uh,

[01:32:03] and Jack Nance is popping up as a, you know, a henchman of Dennis Hopper's character, uh, which is really fun. And Jack Nance is also the star of Eraserhead, uh, which is cool. And actually watching the credits for Eraserhead, I noticed that, uh, Catherine E. Colson, who is the log lady on Twin Peaks, uh, was also like assistant director on Eraserhead, um, which was crazy. Uh, and I was reading about it and apparently how the log lady was created, uh, was that when they were working on Eraserhead together, David Lynch said to her,

[01:32:29] I have an image of you holding a log and then 15 years later, he made Twin Peaks cast her as the lock. Fair enough. Uh, which is great. So yeah, I've been rewatching that David Lynch stuff, uh, which has been fantastic. So I'm going to watch Firewalk with me tomorrow and then I'm going to start my Twin Peaks, the return rewatch, uh, which, uh, man, I haven't actually sat down and watched that since the summer of 2017, uh, when it was airing and I was deeply obsessed with it. So looking forward to all that should be fun. Remember when you didn't know about Twin Peaks?

[01:32:57] Yeah. No, when we, when we reviewed, uh, while the hearts on the complete works, um, I had not watched Twin Peaks yet. Uh, and so actually one of the, one of my like, um, pitches for complete work season five, uh, that I may throw out there, I kind of want to see if we can do a Laura Dern season, but that would mean redoing while the heart and redoing Jurassic park. Uh, well, of course. So that, but those are, those are two big ones. And a couple of Jurassic parks, a couple of, yeah, we'd have to do Jurassic world dominion again, which would be rough, which would be rough. Um, but you know, I,

[01:33:27] I think my argument for that would be like, it'd be kind of fun to do a new episode on wild. Heart 10 years later. Now having like watched a lot more David Lynch stuff. I mean, now I've seen all of it. Uh, and I've seen all of Twin Peaks and while the heart especially was the one he made like wild Twin Peaks was on the air. Uh, there's a lot of Twin Peaks actors that pop up in it that, uh, I would like to revisit and check it out again. So yeah, a Laura Dern season of complete works. Maybe could happen. Maybe could happen. I don't know. I mean, having to watch Jurassic world dominion is a big demerit against it.

[01:33:56] I was a big, that's a big con. Yeah. Cause I, I, I, I almost convinced you of Michael Keaton and then you're like, wait, we'll have to watch the flash. No, no, no sale. Not doing that again. Not going to fool me twice. Uh, but in any case, anything else that you wanted to, uh, talk about Mike, anything, any random things before we start wrapping this up? Um, uh, is there anything? Not really. Not that I could think of. Okay. Uh, yeah, this is, this is a long discussions, but it's been a while since we've done one.

[01:34:25] It has. Yeah, it has been, uh, we're just, we're just trying to make it, you know, tell your friends you love them, I guess. Yeah. That's my, that's my final pitch. There you go. I love you, Mike. Love you too, Mike. There you go. Uh, also 10 years. Yes. It's been 10 years of the podcast. Uh, surely that must make me employable somewhere. Uh, yeah. The one thing that really stands out and I want to bring, uh, bring up is just the professionalism and self-starter.

[01:34:53] What a go-getter Mike Smith is. Uh, what are other buzzwords? Yes. Anybody who's hiring, uh, who knows anything about anything? Uh, I'll do, I'll do whatever, uh, please. Uh, in any case, where can we find you online this week, Mike? You can find me at MD film blog on Twitter. Don't find me there on letterbox and blue sky. Um, you can donate to support the show on our Kofi page, which is Kofi.com slash Mike and Mike pods,

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