Ep. 88 - The Ultimate Jeff Goldblum Countdown Finale!

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[00:00:30] Well, Mike, we finally did it. It took us more than nine months, just over two years, in fact, but we have now reached the threshold of this season's end. Yes, there were some who thought we were nothing more than a chain of fools, just a couple of dummies filling our heads with dreams of the mad monkey. But whether it was Minnie's first time or her next stop in Greenwich Village, this podcast was a sort of special delivery. We had to read between the lines and make sure we had the right stuff

[00:00:58] to prove that we were men of the year. We survived Ragnarok. We were invaded by body snatchers. Life found a way in the lost world as we defied our death wish. Today, we truly did celebrate our Independence Day. And yet, there were a few little surprises along the way. Fathers and sons and cats and dogs alike tuned in from all sorts of places, from Nashville to Pittsburgh to Transylvania to the eighth dimension.

[00:01:27] And over the course of the last two years, they heard about how Igby went down, Earth Girls were easy, Boris was spun, there was an incident at Loch Ness, Tim and Eric made a billion dollar movie, the boss baby had some family business, Adam was resurrected, there was a race for the Devil of Helix, and at some point, there was a favor, a watch, and a very big fish. Mordecai! Nice. Beautiful. Good job, Mike. Good job. Well done. Excellent. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mike.

[00:01:57] I mean, you wrote some of that yourself as well, and it was your suggestion to throw in Mordecai at the end like the aristocrats. I felt like there's just no other way to work that in, and it's the worst movie. So we'll just get that right off the top. Yeah, we decided not to do a top five worst movies on this list, right? Correct. Which is what we said last week, we were thinking about maybe doing it. But now you've just thrown out there that Mordecai is your pick for the worst movie. I think, you know, if I had to pick, that's the one. Okay, fair enough. Mine would be Zambesia.

[00:02:26] And there you go. We got our worst movies in there. We can gloss over that stuff. Honestly, I think I was like halfway apologetic for Mordecai when we reviewed that movie. I think you were, yeah. Which is maybe my greatest shame in this entire podcast, which is saying a lot. Now it is time for the epic conclusion you have all been waiting for. This is episode 88 of The Complete Works, season two. A deep dive into the career and films of actor Jeff Goldblum.

[00:02:51] I'm Mike Smith and joining me one more time on this journey into the world, according to Jeff Goldblum, is my friend, co-host and fellow Goldblum maniac. Mike DiCrecio. How you doing today, Mike? I'm doing, I'm doing, you know, I'm feeling a little bittersweet. This is going to be a fun episode, I think. You know, the finale, the countdowns, all that stuff. We're a walk down memory lane. But it's the end. We're done with Goldblum until, I don't know, three weeks when Jurassic World comes out. But that doesn't count. Yes, yeah.

[00:03:19] Jurassic World Dominion is out next month and Thor Love and Dunder is out the month after that. So we do have some Goldblum stuff on the horizon that we'll be getting to, plus a new Wes Anderson movie later this year. But this is the end of the regular Goldblum season. We did it. It's done. It took us, I mean, it was right before the pandemic started that we started the Goldblum podcast. And now we finally made it through, which is kind of a surreal thing. Yeah, yeah. I think it was like, I think in February 2020 or somewhere in there when we started this. Yeah.

[00:03:47] So what a time to be alive and doing two podcasts a week and going through this journey with Jeff Goldblum. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's been quite a journey and it is kind of bittersweet to be at the end of it. But basically, we're going to play this episode basically the same way we did with our Nicolas Cage season. When we finished that up, we did a whole big countdown Nicolas Cage finale extravaganza. I went back and listened to that episode to kind of refresh my memory and what we did in that time because it's been a few years.

[00:04:16] I think it was late 2019 that we published that one. I also went back and listened to our episode where we selected Jeff Goldblum, which was kind of a fun thing to kind of look back on and see who our candidates were because I kind of forgot a lot of them. And you know what? The first one I mentioned, because if you recall, Jeff Goldblum was on my team. We did it by teams like you picked five people. I picked five people and we kind of eliminated them until we got to the end. And then we had our producer Colin do a tiebreaker to decide who it was. He went with Jeff Goldblum. Goldblum was my first pick.

[00:04:45] And when I picked him, I was like, mark my words, Mike, we will be doing Jeff Goldblum on season two of The Complete Words. You knew. And I was right. I knew I had like a slam dunk in the back. But there we go. Yeah, it was it was Jeff Goldblum versus Eddie Murphy was the the kind of final tally between those two actors. It was close. I mean, I think we really debated going back and forth. Goldblum, Eddie Murphy. Either way, we would have covered Holy Man. That's the most fucked up part, which I don't think we even knew at the time.

[00:05:14] I don't think we either either of us seen Holy Man. Neither of us really knew that much about it. I don't think we knew that Jeff Goldblum or Eddie Murphy were in it. I think Colin may have been the one to point that out to us, actually. Yeah. That episode. But yeah, either way, we would have had to do Holy Man. But I'm glad that, you know, it went the way it did as much as much fun as an Eddie Murphy season would have been. And we're not going to rule that one out for the near future at some point. Maybe not the near future because he's disqualified after season three. But like season four or five, who knows? Maybe an Eddie Murphy season could happen.

[00:05:43] Yeah. Yeah. The possibilities are endless for The Complete Works. Absolutely. So, yeah. Next week, we are going to be kind of selecting our finalists for who season three of the podcast is going to be. We've talked about this before. We're going to put it out there on the Internet and let Twitter decide who will actually win the rights to be covered on another two plus years of The Complete Works, basically. I mean, it's nice that it's two years now and not four, you know? Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Making all the podcasts weekly really tightened that up. Yeah. Sped the process along.

[00:06:12] And we even took like a three, four month break from Goldblum to go back to Nicolas Cage, if you recall. That's right. We did like a Nicolas Cage hiatus thing. So really, it was like a year and a half worth of a Goldblum podcast. It's pretty funny if you think about that in the most recent years for Goldblum, as many movies as he's been making per year. The year that we catch up to him and finish the podcast, he puts out the most movies he's put out in a single year in like a decade.

[00:06:39] I think that's very true. Honestly, I wish we had timed it out a little better so that Jurassic World Dominion could have been our finale episode. I think that would have been a lot of fun. Yeah. You know, if as good as it was, that search party was the ending for the season, the ending of the official regular episodes of the show. A dress world Dominion just feels like a whole full circle moment that I think a lot of people get very excited about. Yeah, don't worry. We'll be back, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we will be. We will cover in it for sure. But today we are counting down a ton of our favorite Goldblum things.

[00:07:05] So basically how the Nicolas Cage episode worked is in that episode, we counted our top five worst Cage movies, our top five Cage freakouts, top five Cage performances and then top ten Cage movies. We're going to do something a little bit different here today. So instead of counting down our worst movies, which, as we've already covered, Mordecai, Zambija. There you go. That's it. You can skip those ones in the Goldblum canon, especially because he's barely in those ones, too. I think he's in like Mordecai for like a minute and a half. Yeah, exactly.

[00:07:31] So instead, what we've done is we have come up with a ton of different categories to kind of spread the love because we want this podcast, this episode of the podcast to really represent the entire history of the Goldblum filmography, like really kind of dive into every single era of Goldblum. And, you know, even if we don't mention every single movie by name, we'll probably get a lot of them in there. Yeah, if I had to guess. So we've come up with ten different categories that kind of reflect the career of Jeff Goldblum. And so we're going to go through those first.

[00:08:00] After that, we're going to do our top five discoveries of the podcast, the movies that we hadn't seen or maybe even hadn't heard of before doing the podcast that we ended up really loving. After that, we're counting down our top ten Goldblum performances, his best acting roles throughout his entire career. And then finally, at the end of the podcast, it'll be time for our top ten Goldblum movies of all time. And anything that we've covered on this podcast that is a movie is eligible for this.

[00:08:29] I want to make that very clear right now because there are one or two movies in the Goldblum movies list that have Goldblum in them for like 30 seconds. Yes, yes. At least on my list. Yeah, no, I definitely took that into consideration. Yes. Well, I was listening back to the cage episode and you gave me a lot of shit for putting Fast Times Ridgemont high on my list, Mike. So look, I've evolved. We've evolved since then, you know, that's fair. That's fair. But yeah, so that's basically how it's going to work.

[00:08:55] The variety of the categories followed by the five discoveries, ten performances and then ten Goldblum movies. And yeah, I guess we should just get right into it, Mike. So like we said, ten different categories that we're going to start off this episode with that helps us kind of spread the love in terms of some of the Goldblum stuff that we have watched over the course of the last two years. The first category is favorite cameo. Yes. Favorite Jeff Goldblum cameo. He's made a lot of those in movies. He pops up as himself sometimes. Sometimes he just pops up for like a brief minute in a thing.

[00:09:24] So what is your favorite Jeff Goldblum cameo that we have discussed on this podcast? Now that I'm thinking about it, this one's kind of a little bit of a cheat, although not quite. Not quite. So my choice for the favorite Jeff Goldblum cameo is Incident at Loch Ness. Interesting. Partly because I loved that movie and that movie was a lot of fun and I'm glad we got to watch it because of this podcast. And two, it feels so real and like unplanned, which is kind of like the whole shtick of the fake documentary, right?

[00:09:54] Like, you know, when Goldblum walks in and he's like, hey, John, whatever, the director, I know you. Like, he's like shocked, appears shocked that there's a camera crew at this dinner at Werner Herzog's house. And then he has a little like, you know, philosophizing moment at dinner where I forget what he's even talking about, about society and storytelling or something, I think. That sounds about right. That sounds like something he'd be philosophizing about. Yeah. And then Chris McLover walks in for half a frame and then they end that dinner scene, which is very funny.

[00:10:24] But yeah, I don't know. I think the combination of that movie being so weird and unique in the filmography that we covered and then also Goldblum just appears to be at dinner at Werner Herzog's house is a lot of fun. So Incident at Loch Ness for my favorite cameo. Nice. My favorite cameo was actually a tie. One of mine was Incident at Loch Ness. Oh, interesting. For essentially the same reasons that you just said. It's just it's a very fun thing to just kind of see Goldblum sort of in his element.

[00:10:49] It feels like he was just invited to dinner at Werner Herzog's house and there happened to be a camera crew there, you know? Right. Exactly. And so he's hanging out. It's him and like Ricky Jay is there, too. And yeah, Crispin Glover. And I don't think Ileana Douglas is there, but it feels like she should be. Yeah, absolutely. For whatever, like because of Pittsburgh, I feel like they just hang out all the time is basically and that very well could be the case. You know, I don't know exactly, but Goldblum and Incident at Loch Ness is a fun cameo. My other one that I had in there was a Run Ronnie Run.

[00:11:20] Jeff Goldblum. What does Jeff Goldblum want? I want my money back. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And I want angels to give it to me. And, oh, pixies to count it out.

[00:11:45] And a gnome or a hobbit or an elf to sleep at the foot of my bed and have... My Jesus, I just want them all over my backyard. But no matter what happens with any of that, I do want my money back. Ah, yes. Which, you know, as a movie, Run Ronnie Run is pretty hit or miss, you know, and it's more on the miss side than it is hit for sure. And it's a movie that I desperately would love to like because I love Mr. Show so much.

[00:12:12] But the stuff that is funny in that movie, I do think is really, really funny. And a lot of that is from some of the extra cameos they get. And the best one is probably Mandy Patinkin playing Ronnie Dobbs in the stage musical adaptation of Run Ronnie Run. Yeah. Where he's singing the beautiful, like he's serenading this beautiful song, taking Ronnie's catchphrase, y'all are brutalizing me and turn it into this beautiful ballad. It's incredible. And then he gets naked at the end of it. It's wild.

[00:12:39] And then I think it's immediately after that scene, you see Ronnie Dobbs in like a group therapy session. Like he's on like this like resort for Hollywood celebrities. And Jeff Goldblum is there. And Tom Kenny is the guy who's like leading the session. He's like the yoga instructor or therapist or whatever. And Jeff Goldblum is just like agitated that he's here. And he just has that very funny line going around the room saying, like, I want this for my life and I want this. And Jeff Goldblum's like, I want my money back. And he just rants at Tom Kenny of like a minute.

[00:13:09] And it's a delight. And I think it's a shows what Jeff Goldblum is capable of when playing heightened versions of himself, which he does in many, many things that he does. Right. Yeah. I love is it Patrick Warburton is like the general in charge of the gay agenda. Yes. I think that's my favorite caveat cutaway thing in Run, Ronnie, Run. That was pretty great. Goldblum is great. Yeah. And that. And he did someone like, you know, coming from Cage who doesn't do this ever really. He did Never on Tuesday.

[00:13:39] And that's kind of like the only one that immediately jumps to mind as like a cameo appearance. That's funny that it's Nick Cage. That's true. Yeah. I mean, I think with Cage, like there's a couple of movies early in his career where he plays bit parts. Right. Or like Fast Times, Rich, Mon High, where he's like in the background, doesn't have any lines because he's a young actor. Like that's that's not a cameo. That's just like he's extra in the movie. Yeah, exactly. You know, but yeah, I think you're right. I think Never on Tuesday. I guess he has a cameo and Teen Titans go to the movies. Right.

[00:14:06] Which is maybe a slightly like bigger than a cameo, but not like a supporting role kind of thing. It's like somewhere in between sort of. So but yeah, I think you're right. I mean, Never on Tuesday. I mean, really, we've talked about this in the past where Cage really historically has not played into the idea of being Nicolas Cage until now. Yeah. With Unbearable Weight, A Massive Talent and a little bit with History of Swear Words. Exactly. But Goldblum embraced that the persona, the schtick, the whatever pretty quickly.

[00:14:32] And then it was very willing to be in weird alt comedy sketch movies, you know? Yeah, absolutely. And we love that. So, yeah, Run, Ronnie, Run and Incident Locked Ness. Those were our picks for favorite cameo for Jeff Goldblum. Next category, favorite underseen lead role. And I think this is a good category because Goldblum is somebody who we've talked about in this podcast a lot, was a leading man for a little while. Like he kind of had like fits and starts of being a leading man in movies.

[00:15:00] But for the most part, Hollywood kind of figured out that Goldblum worked best as an ensemble character. Like whenever somebody whenever there's a big ensemble of characters, Goldblum can be like the kind of eccentric guy and really stand out from the pack. But when Goldblum is the lead, for whatever reason, his movies tended not to do well, with some exceptions. I mean, obviously, there was The Fly, right? Right. And then you look at the entire period after The Fly and there's like three or four movies where he's the lead and they're all just bombs. Often they're good. Like they're cult classics, a lot of them.

[00:15:28] But, you know, The Fly is like the only one that like was a big hit. And then after Jurassic Park was a big hit, kind of the same thing. Goldblum was a lead for it again for a little bit. But then it was movies like Hideaway that he was making. And I was like, well, no, we don't. People don't want this. This isn't working. So what is your favorite underseen lead role, Mike? My favorite underseen lead role comes, I believe, in that the post-Fly era that you were just talking about. And that is Vibes. Oh, God.

[00:15:54] Her husband's back eight, nine times. In science, I won't be able to sleep. What a sight. Home. Someone's had sex on this table. Nice. Okay. Yeah, that is. I believe it was the same year as Earth Girls Are Easy. Yeah. So yeah, I think Vibes is a great pick. Yeah.

[00:16:24] Yeah, with Cyndi Lauper and the guy that played Columbo, whose name just vanished from my brain. Peter Falk. Peter Falk. There we go. Harry! Exactly. I mean, the fact that it ends that way where they just all turn and look at the camera and freeze frame is hilarious and became a recurring bit for the show. And it's fun. It was a fun little goofy psychic Indiana Jones goof-em-up, you know, kind of thing where I forget what they're even looking for. Like ruins or a gem or something.

[00:16:51] One of those things in Peru or something like that. And yeah, it was a good goof and vibes. There it is. Yeah, absolutely. I really enjoyed Vibes and I don't think it made any of my lists, but it is good. I liked it a lot. You know, it's a fun, just goofy comedy. I think it's fun to see Cyndi Lauper in like a lead 80s role too. And she and Goldblum actually play off each other really well. And it just has this like very strange sense of slapstick, but also very like kind of dense dialogue at certain points and some clever joke writing. So yeah, Vibes is good stuff.

[00:17:20] There it is. What's your favorite underseen lead? My favorite underseen Jeff Goldblum lead role is I think maybe the pinnacle of the Euro Goldblum era. And that is The Tall Guy. Nice. Which is from 1989, written by Richard Curtis. I believe his first screenplay who went on to write movies like Love Actually and I think Notting Hill was also I think we've talked about that before and later would direct movies too. I think he may have directed Love Actually also.

[00:17:49] And then he also directed About Time, which I love that movie and all that kind of stuff. And The Tall Guy is Jeff Goldblum and Emma Thompson, also in her screen debut too, in her feature film debut. Right. And it's a bunch of like just British sketch actors making this movie together. And Jeff Goldblum is like this out of work actor who gets fired by Rowan Atkinson. Yes. Not playing Mr. Bean, just playing a different guy. He's an asshole in this movie. Exactly. And so he's a night of work actor. He's trying to figure out what to do with his life.

[00:18:16] He becomes smitten with this nurse at a hospital and he starts up a romance with her, played by Emma Thompson. And eventually he ends up the lead in a new musical based on David Lynch's The Elephant Man. And it's the best. I really loved this movie. I thought it was so fun and so funny. There's a whole musical sequence interlude where they're singing It Must Be Love, you know, in the middle of the movie, which is great. Right. And there's just so many insane sequences.

[00:18:42] The scene where Jeff Goldblum and Emma Thompson have sex for the first time and they're just destroying everything in the room. They're smashing lambs and stuff like intentionally, like they're grabbing them and throwing them down to the floor and, you know, all that kind of stuff is just a delight. Yeah, that movie is great. And, you know, stay tuned. I might have more thoughts on it, I guess I'll say. But yeah, that's a great pick. Fair enough. All right. So that is The Tall Guy, my favorite underseen Jeff Goldblum lead role. I believe the entire movie is available to watch on YouTube, which I think is how we watched it. If anybody wants to check that one out.

[00:19:11] This one's maybe a more specific category, but there are a lot of these movies in the Goldblum filmography. And that is favorite movie involving aliens. A surprising amount. There is a lot of aliens in the Goldblum filmography. So, Mike, what was your pick? My pick for favorite movie involving aliens is The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension. That was also my pick, Mike. Ah, nice. Nice. Sidney, Buckaroo. How's the paper? Oh, fine. He's doing fine, thanks to you. But more importantly, congratulations.

[00:19:40] You drove through a mountain. I did. You drove right through a mountain the other day. You did it right after you left him with the operation. You hadn't even said anything about it. You didn't even mention you were going to do it. Sidney, these are my friends. This is my colleague, Dr. Sidney Zweibel, old medical friend from Columbia P&S. Howdy. How do you do? Listen, Sidney, I'm glad you could make it because it looks like we may need an extra hand sooner than I thought. Uh-huh, I see an extra hand. Yeah, that's what I was wondering about. I mean, I got your message about rendezvousing at this address. Barely had time to pack my saddlebags. Then I came here and now you could see that. Yeah, I wasn't sure for a second there. I was like, are they technically aliens?

[00:20:09] I couldn't really remember if they're like interdimensional, whatever. But yeah, aliens. People not from Earth. And just what a comic book, pulp sci-fi, fun goof-em-up this movie is with Peter Weller and a thousand other people. Everyone else. Yeah, Clancy Brown. Clancy Brown. Christopher Lloyd. Christopher Lloyd, yeah. Yeah, he's the villain. I mean, yeah, it's weird. There's a ton of people in Buckaroo Banzai and now we're planking on all of their names. I can't remember any of them.

[00:20:38] But yeah, just that they're like a pop rock band that follow Buckaroo Banzai and that also are superheroes. And what a crazy fact that this movie even exists, you know? So yeah, a ton of fun. Love this movie. Absolutely. I said Christopher Loeb is the villain and he is, but actually John Lithgow is the main villain of the movie. John Lithgow, yes. How could we forget? Absolutely insane performance. Yes. Yeah. John Lithgow, Ellen Barkin. Let's see. Rosalind Cash, Lewis Smith, Cara Lumley, Vincent Chevelli, one of the Chevelli movies.

[00:21:08] Yes, yes. Poppin' up here. Dan Hedaya. Jonathan Banks is a hospital guard in this movie. You know, it's just, it's a really solid cast that is assembled. And this really is truly one of the weirdest, most fun cult movies of the 80s. And yeah, so I say it's my favorite movie involving aliens. That may not necessarily be the case, but it's one that I might not be highlighting on my other lists here. So I wanted to throw it out there because it is a really just fun sci-fi space adventure.

[00:21:34] If you're a fan of Thor Ragnarok, which I think we talked about in our Thor Ragnarok episode, I think a lot of that movie is indebted to Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And it's just fun to like realize how many similarities and stuff. Like, yeah, there's a bunch of movies with aliens. There's a bunch of movies with science. He's a scientist. We kind of highlighted this throughout the season where it's like, oh, he's a doctor again or whatever. Yep. And so, yeah, it's fun. Good times. Buckaroo Banzai. Absolutely. All right.

[00:22:03] So that's our favorite movie involving aliens. Now it's time for favorite voice role. There's only been a few Goldblum animated movies in the whole filmography so far. So I'm not sure. You know, I think we're probably both going to have the same pick here. But Mike, what is your favorite Jeff Goldblum voice role? My pick for this is Prince of Egypt. OK, we have a different pick, actually. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Now, granted, he doesn't have a very substantial role in this. He's, I forget, somebody's uncle. Is he Moses' uncle? I don't remember.

[00:22:32] I think his name is Aaron, I want to say. Yeah, it's something like that. There's somebody in the Bible named Aaron, right? Yeah, I'm sure. So he's not in a whole lot. He plays Aaron. He plays Aaron. Nice. Good job. But I remember him being very earnest and grounded and having this gravitas to what he's doing in this. It's like the role he has to play where he's kind of like just the supportive character to the lead of whatever is going on. And he does a really good job. And this movie is beautiful. And, you know, I wanted to highlight it here. Absolutely. Yeah, I really love Prince of Egypt.

[00:23:01] I mean, that is a really terrific early DreamWorks movie, which we talked about on the podcast back in the day. And I think that is probably the better movie of like it's a better movie than the movie that I'm about to say. But Goldblum has a more substantial role in my movie, which is why I'm throwing that one out there. My favorite voice role is Isle of Dogs. You heard the rumor, right? About Buster? Not sure. Can you remind me? Who's Buster? My brother from another litter. What happened to him? Suicided. Hanged himself by his own leash. Hmm. Makes sense.

[00:23:31] 2018, the Wes Anderson movie, which is a movie that's really improved for me. Upon rewatch. Like, I liked it when I saw it in theaters. I really enjoyed it. It's a Wes Anderson movie, so I'm like predisposed to liking it. Yeah. But Isle of Dogs, I think, really was hurt when I first watched it, partially because Fantastic Mr. Fox is one of my favorite Wes Anderson movies, and this wasn't Fantastic Mr. Fox. Right. You know, this is like, it's an animated movie from Wes Anderson. This should be the same, but it's not.

[00:23:55] Yeah, no, Isle of Dogs is a very different movie and an incredibly dark movie, too, which I also really appreciate about it. I think the world building is so much fun. And the kind of dogs on a mission plots is also a really fun thing. And the way they kind of use the dog culture and kind of have dogs interact with humans and stuff and all the kind of dry deadpan jokes they're able to make with that is really great.

[00:24:18] And Jeff Goldblum's whole character is essentially being the gossipy dog of the group who just always knows everything, like right before information gets to the other dogs about it. Yes. You know, and, you know, the bit where he's like, you heard the rumor, right? And it just it's very funny. And, you know, the final like button on that where it's like, how do you know all this stuff? And it's like, oh, dogs talk. I listen. I love to I love to gossip. I always have. It's great. Love it. Yeah.

[00:24:44] It's interesting that he's Goldblum has only done like, was it four or three or four voice roles? I can't really remember. I think it's four. I believe it's Prince of Egypt, Isle of Dogs, Boss Baby 2 and Zambesia. And Zambesia. Four. Yeah. Which, you know, out of 88 movies or 87, whatever, however many episodes, 80 movies, we'll say because we did some TV stuff is pretty low. I'm so you know, it's kind of surprising that he doesn't do a ton of voice work. Yeah, especially because he is somebody who has a pretty distinctive voice.

[00:25:12] You would think that would come up more often. But yeah, so there you go. The Prince of Egypt and Isle of Dogs were the ones for our favorite voice roles. And now the next category, favorite Euro Goldblum movie. So I mentioned before that my actual favorite is The Tall Guy. I did pick a different one here just to spread the wealth a little bit. But Mike, what is your favorite Euro Goldblum movie? And we should clarify the Euro Goldblum. But what we mean by that. Yes.

[00:25:35] For those who maybe weren't listening to the podcast back then, it was a period in the late 80s, early 90s, right after that kind of failed string of movies where Jeff Goldblum was the lead in Hollywood productions, your vibes and Earth Girls Are Easies, where he went over to Europe and just kind of made movies there for a while. And it was hanging around like France and England and made a bunch of like really weird stuff in a lot of cases. And that was pretty much what he was doing until like 1992 when he kind of came back with deep cover. And then a year later was Jurassic Park. Exactly.

[00:26:05] So, yeah, there's like a period of like six or seven movies that are just super obscure. Very few people have seen them. We have watched all of them. And there's some gems in there. Yeah, it's interesting that, you know, we kind of I think we highlighted it at the time that it was like, you know, obviously spurred on a little bit by the failed leading man Goldblum era post The Fly and stuff. But also like a writer's strike, if I remember, in Los Angeles. And that's why he went to Europe or part of the reason why he goes to Europe to continue making movies over there. And he's there for a couple of years.

[00:26:33] And I think the best one out of that little run is The Tall Guy that you just talked about. Fair enough. For all the reasons you said, I think it is a delight. It's very funny. I remember not at the time, not particularly enjoying the back half where it's just auditions and rehearsals and stuff for Trunk. Right. Is that what is it called? I think I think it might be called Trunk. Yeah, it might be called Trunk. The fake musical. Trunk, exclamation point. Yeah, exactly. Based on the elephant man. And all that stuff was a little like kind of inside baseball for me. So I wasn't particularly into all that.

[00:27:03] But everything else in this movie was a lot of fun. And just over the top cartoonish stuff like the whole like it cuts to a theater and they're singing. It must be love. And it cuts to people on the street. And the first time they're having sex, like you said, they're smashing stuff. They're opening and closing the piano. Yeah. At one point, they're in between the box spring and the mattress. Just like the silliest shit. It's very funny. So The Tall Guy. Love that. Fair enough. Yeah. The Tall Guy would probably be my pick also for favorite Euro Goldblum movie.

[00:27:32] But I went with a different direction just to spread it around a little bit. And that is The Favor, The Watch, and The Very Big Fish. Nice. Which is a movie that I think about every once in a while and just be like, that is a weird movie. Yes. Of course, this movie has Jeff Goldblum as the pianist who is just being released from jail. And he thinks he's going to meet the woman he loves. But there's just a whole series of wacky mix-em-ups that happen. First of which involves Bob Hoskins.

[00:28:00] Bob Hoskins is this really nevishy guy who's like, oh, I'm just so nervous. And he runs an art gallery. He meets this woman played by Natasha Richardson. The way they meet is they are shooting the audio for a porn film. I think they're doing ADR for it or something. Yeah, they're dubbing the moans for a porn movie. Yes. And he's kind of there by accident. He's filling in for his neighbor. Yeah. And so he's just completely uncomfortable with it. But it ends up being one of the most intimate experiences of their entire lives.

[00:28:28] And they're just like sitting there on stools making sex sounds to each other. And then they have this beautiful romantic first date. And then she tells him this whole story about her lost love with Jeff Goldblum and how he went to jail after he assaulted this guy who tried to come on to her or something like that. And, you know, there was this whole flashback sequence where you see Jeff Goldblum and he's the pianist. And he's playing in like this like listless way. And the kid's like, what's wrong with you? And it's like, my mother died. And she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. It's like recently.

[00:28:57] No, eight years ago. But they have like this like heated passion and like those sequences where like Goldblum is like playing the piano at her so hard that she's like orgasming on the table. And, you know, that kind of thing. It's wild. And then Goldblum gets let out of jail and Bob Hoskins comes across him and they don't know who each other are. And Hoskins like sees in him like the look of Jesus. And there's like a whole display they're doing at the art gallery where they need somebody to look like Jesus.

[00:29:25] So he hires him to be like their Jesus model. And then Goldblum starts to believe that he is Jesus. And there's sequences where he like helps the blind to see and all that kind of thing. Like and he's like actually able to do it because things keep bopping him on the head. All that kind of stuff. And just the absolute insanity of this movie, which this movie also has one of our Goldblum deaths as well. That's right. One of the ones or something. Right. Yeah. I think he tries to walk on water and he. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. Wild. Yeah. An absolutely wild movie.

[00:29:55] Just a madcap comedy. And one I really enjoyed. So the favor of the watch and the very big fish. I'm throwing it out there again. The tall guy is my actual favorite, which is Mike's pick. But since I picked that for my favorite under scene leading role, I figured I'd go with my second favorite for this one. Nice. Good idea. But there we go. All right. So that's my favorite Euro Goldblum movie. And now here's an interesting one. Favorite early bit parts, because here's the thing. I mean, in the 70s, especially Goldblum is in a lot of movies as in roles like freak

[00:30:23] number one or thug number three or that. Yeah. Like he's in very small roles in a lot of like major movies, too, which is kind of interesting. And so he just kind of pops up a lot in the 70s and early 80s. Mike, what is your favorite early bit part in the Goldblum career? Well, now I'm not sure what qualifies necessarily as a quote unquote bit part. So tell me if I need to pick a different one, because I do have one locked and loaded. OK. But for right now, my pick is Next Stop, Greenwich Village. I think that counts. I'll allow it. OK, yeah.

[00:30:51] Where the main character is a struggling actor and he goes to an audition and sitting next to him in line is Jeff Goldblum. And they're kind of having this little conversation. And I don't really remember the specifics of it, but it's like a pretty substantial moment for a person of Jeff Goldblum's caliber at this point in his career. You know, he gets a couple lines dialogue. It's a few like a minute or two when he's coming up from, like you said, thug number one or whatever. Yeah. I believe this is the first time we got any kind of like substantial amount of Jeff Goldblum

[00:31:20] in a movie. Yeah. Because this is like episode four of the podcast was Next Stop, Greenwich Village. Exactly. And the year before that was Nashville, which he is in the movie and he's a part of that big ensemble, but he has no lines. His character is silent. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a pretty like scene stealing moment. He's like so handsome and young and his hair is all combed and stuff. And he goes into that or he's next in line, you know, once our main character moves into the audition, we don't see him again. But it's pretty cool. So Next Stop, Greenwich Village. Nice. Yeah.

[00:31:50] Next Stop, Greenwich Village, a really terrific movie directed by Paul Mazursky and one that may come up again at some point in this episode. Doesn't doesn't Paul Mazursky is the guy they're auditioning for. Right. If I remember right. I believe he might be. I think he might be playing the director in that scene, too. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So I think that counts because the one I chose, I this is another tie for me to kind of throw two in here for favorite early bit part. The one's closer to what you're doing here is The Right Stuff. It's called Sputnik. We know.

[00:32:19] Sit down. From 1983, which also a movie with a huge ensemble of characters and one that Goldblum's in for maybe like five to ten minutes, something like that. You know, his whole his whole role in the movie, which is so much fun, is he runs into rooms and shouts them at information that they already know. Yeah. Yeah. And it happens a couple of times. Whatever new like historical moment has happened within the movie. He's the one that busts in and announces it. Yes, absolutely. It's Sputnik. And, you know, it's like we know.

[00:32:47] Sit down and all that kind of stuff, which is great. And so, yeah, he's like one of the two scientists who are kind of helping to recruit the Mercury 7 or the Apollo astronauts and all that kind of stuff. And is the Mercury 7 like a is that what they were? Is that like a made up sci fi thing that I just like pulled out from somewhere? They might be the Mercury mission like missions before the Apollo. OK, yeah, I think that's what it is. I think I think I might be right. OK, we'll see what happens. Yeah, somebody somebody will tweet at us and exactly. Yeah. So, yeah. So I really enjoyed Goldblum and the right stuff.

[00:33:17] And it's a really good early bit part. And I also wanted to give a shout out to Death Wish. Hey, I'm going to do a thing. Ship man got business. Let's go, man. Because, you know, that is the first Goldblum role. And obviously it's an unpleasant one. He plays the guy who assaults and rapes Charles Bronson's wife. But it is really fascinating to see the like for the fact that it is Jeff Goldblum and those like two other guys that he's with. It's like, you know, these three thugs, one of which is like immediately recognizable and like has that charisma.

[00:33:45] And you wonder how much of that is like, oh, I know who Jeff Goldblum is. So I can kind of place that on him. Or how much is Jeff Goldblum in the moment being a really great actor kind of early on? And so, yeah, for that reason, I think Death Wish kind of deserves a spot on this list somewhere at least. Yeah, I think his his first lines ever on screen are shit man got business. A classic line. Awesome. My other pick would have been special delivery for this if we wanted for that. Like, you know, also a good one. Yes.

[00:34:14] Also a good one where he gets attacked by Bo Svensson's patented smash him up against the wall routine. Yeah. The like one punch kill move that he's got, which is great. All right. So your favorite early bit part was next up Greenwich Village. I picked the right stuff in Death Wish. And now favorite era of Jeff Goldblum. This is hard. This is kind of a tough one. Yeah. And I kind of had to think about this for a little while and kind of really analyze the filmography from era by era. But I mean, just thinking about it the way we kind of talked about it on the podcast,

[00:34:43] there's sort of like, you know, the extra bit part rising star era Goldblum of the 70s, right? Which kind of crescendos with Invasion of the Body Snatchers, where he's like the big like a pretty major supporting role. And then you have the sort of on the rise 80s, where he's in a lot of ensembles and then he's a leading man. And then that kind of fizzles out. There's the Euro Goldblum era. There is the 90s leading man era after Jurassic Park. And then there's eccentric ensemble older Goldblum in the back half of the 2010s.

[00:35:11] I think in the early 2000s, we were kind of just like, this is his whatever era where he's just doing a bunch of random stuff. Yeah, we didn't really quantify it. But that's sort of the era that I'm going with. Really? The whatever era? The sort of figure of authority era, I kind of called it. Because we did, we kind of tracked that a couple times. I think maybe the real gut check answer would be the 90s, but that felt like too obvious. And that's just all my favorite movies. So I didn't want to pick that anyway. But I think the kind of late figure of authority, quote unquote, era, where he's sort of just being in stuff.

[00:35:41] Like, what is Faye Grimm even? I didn't particularly like that movie because I didn't know that I didn't watch the first one and all that stuff. But in general, that kind of movie and where he started, sort of just lets him himself kind of fade into the lesser ensemble. But he still makes such a mark whenever he does show up that it's exciting to see him in stuff like that. Sure. And that's also when he starts working with Wes Anderson as well. And so kind of getting on that ensemble too, which is pretty cool. But all right. Interesting.

[00:36:08] So the kind of whatever kind of popping up in anything, Goldblum era, is your response. My favorite era that I kind of went with was the on the rise 80s era, because I was looking at the filmography and kind of looking at the movies that were released in each era. And I look at the on the rise 80s, which I kind of quantify with starting with the big chill in 83, where, you know, he's a major part of that ensemble. It's a huge hit. People like know who Jeff Goldblum is now. And then it's the big chill, the right stuff, Buckaroo Banzai, Silverado, Into the Night,

[00:36:37] The Fly, Vibes and Earth Girls Are Easy, all within like a seven year span. And that's a pretty solid run of movies. There's also Transylvania 65000, which is OK. And Beyond Therapy, which is one of the worst things that we reviewed in this podcast. Other than that, like that's a really good run of movies. Yeah. You know, I forgot about Beyond Therapy. That might be my answer. For worse. Instead of Mordecai instead of Mordecai. And yeah, that is that is a pretty great run of movies there. So excellent, excellent choice. Yeah, fair enough. All right.

[00:37:06] So now next category, favorite Goldblum reunions. We've been kind of tracking Goldblum reunions on this podcast over the course of the entire run of the show. So who are your favorite recurring Goldblum players, Mike? OK, so I wasn't really sure how we wanted to answer this because I didn't know if you wanted us to pick like a specific movie or whatever. However, so I kind of just said you could have you could have asked me a question. You could have texted you. I could have. But it's more fun if I just answer Scott Glenn every time he's on the in a movie. That's fair.

[00:37:34] And that is exactly what I was expecting you to do. Yes. Nice. Yeah. Scott Glenn, one of the four Pete Goldblum reunions, which is a very rarefied club. If you want to know who else is in the four Pete Goldblum club now at the end of this podcast, Scott Glenn, who was in Nashville, The Right Stuff, Silverado and The Player. Michael Lerner is in there. Christopher Walken, Samuel L. Jackson, Robert Loja. He snuck in with the posthumous number four.

[00:38:04] Exactly. And then Bill Murray also in there, too. Thanks to all that. All those Wes Anderson movies that kind of got thrown in there. So I mean, that's a it's a rarefied air. It's one, two, three, four, five, six people in the four timers club. And I remember when Scott Glenn was popping up a lot. We always got so excited whenever Scott Glenn was in it. And it's just it was cool to see him. It was great. Yeah. And Scott Glenn is actually also one of my picks. I also went with Ed Begley Jr. Oh, nice. Which and that's more because I like Ed Begley Jr. A lot. I have seen him in a lot of things.

[00:38:34] He's actually currently been ripped. He was on Better Call Saul for a good chunk of season two. And now he's back on the show. Oh, nice. Now that the final season is airing, which is pretty exciting. And he's been great on it. But Ed Begley Jr. popped up in three Goldblum movies. A Transylvania 65,000 War Stories and Pittsburgh. None of which I think are like the best movies we've reviewed or anything. But Ed Begley Jr. And Goldblum were always just a fun pair together. And they play off each other really well. And I think especially with Pittsburgh, it's clear that like, oh, these guys are like actually

[00:39:03] like really good friends in real life. And that kind of translates on screen. The recurring bit in Pittsburgh where Ed Begley Jr. is trying to get Jeff Goldblum to do like the juice infomercial or whatever it is. Yes. Oh, no, the like solar power or whatever it is. It's like a solar powered vacuum cleaner or whatever. Like some. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, is so fucking funny. Yes. So, yeah. Excellent. Excellent choice. I love I love it. Like big Ed Begley Jr. And he's very fun every time he showed up. Yes, absolutely. All right. Next category. This is the ninth category that we're doing here.

[00:39:32] Uh, favorite TV thing could be anything in the TV realm that we're talking about here. But a favorite TV thing, any TV movie or TV show, whatever you got. Uh, you know, the go bloom much more than cage. I mean, with cage, he didn't do any TV that entire time that we talked about him. Right. Except for that one thing at the beginning. Best of times. Oh, yeah. Right. Best of times. The other TV pilot, which never made it to air. If it did cage career could have been drastically different. Who knows? Wow. Uh, which is kind of weird to think about.

[00:39:59] Like if that had got picked up, uh, and like ran for two or three seasons and never went anywhere after that. Cause I don't think it would have been like a smash hit TV show. Yeah. You know, but like if that had happened, maybe cage wouldn't have gotten Valley girl. And if he hadn't gotten Valley girl, would cage's career have even happened? You know? Right. Yeah, exactly. And my, my pick for, uh, go bloom is maybe a little basic. Uh, and that's, that's search party season five. I kind of figured you would go to search party. Yeah. Yeah. Although there's a lot to choose from, uh, like you were just talking about. And, uh, there's a lot early.

[00:40:29] He's kind of, it's, it's very interesting to kind of track. Google blooms attempts at TV where he's, you know, there at the very beginning with 10 speed and brow shoe. And then he's in a couple of TV movies and rains and a couple other stuff. Like he's kind of in and out of trying to do TV stuff every now and then now with search party, he's, you know, can be a special guest person recurring thing. He doesn't need to be like the lead. So, but yeah, search party is my fave. Cause I think it's the platonic ideal of a gold bloom thing. Like we were sort of talking about last week. Yeah. Uh, and search party is great. Yeah, absolutely. Search party rules.

[00:40:59] Uh, we talked about it last week on the show and, uh, definitely recommend watching the show and then listening to that episode. Uh, if you haven't watched it yet, a search party would probably be my favorite of any TV thing that gold bloom has done. Uh, but I didn't pick it for my favorite TV thing here. Uh, there's also a TV movie that is going to be my discoveries, uh, that I did not list here either. Uh, so instead I'm going to go with lush life. Come on, freaking accountant for Christ's sake. You know what? This is like Russia. This is just like Russia the way it used to be where you used to have to do what the government told you to and you didn't even have a choice.

[00:41:26] Comrade, you will work in a pepsi, pepsi, epski and you'll be happy. But comrade says, I, I, I groove on that saxophoneski. Man, I bend and bob with the down cats on 52nd street. The life of a pepsi, pepsi, epski. It's not for me. Believe what I'm laying down. Sorry, man. But from now on, it's how many copies. How many copies. That's what it's like. Can't dig that, man. It's not me. Ah, I couldn't remember if that was a TV movie or not. It was. Yeah.

[00:41:53] The Lush of Life was a TV movie with, uh, Jeff Goldblum and Forrest Whitaker and, uh, Kathy Baker, I believe. It is a really solid music comedy drama. I mean, uh, you know, the first half of it is just Jeff Goldblum and Forrest Whitaker being jazz guys. You know, the jamming on that saxophoneski. You know what I'm saying? If, if Lush Life was worth anything, it was that single line of dialogue that we've gotten a year and a half of mileage out of.

[00:42:19] One day, if we ever make merch for this show, uh, jamming on that saxophoneski will be a t-shirt. I feel like it's gotta be. Uh, and so, yeah, absolutely. That was great. Uh, and then the back half of it is a genuinely very strong drama where Forrest Whitaker is kind of coming to terms with the fact that he is dying, uh, and, you know, dealing with this, uh, brain disease that he's got. And, uh, Jeff Goldblum having to come to terms with the fact that his best friend is dying, uh, and all that kind of stuff. But it's all about like the power of jazz and the music that kind of takes them through it.

[00:42:48] And, uh, of course, jazz plays such a huge role, uh, throughout Goldblum's career. I mean, it's such a big part of who he is as a person. Uh, he's released his jazz albums and stuff like that. And, uh, so to have this movie, Lush Life, uh, which is really a testament to that as an art form, uh, I think it's pretty cool. Yeah. And that's a perfect, perfect lead into our final category. Yes, it is. Which is favorite musical moments. And, uh, this one, uh, kind of tripped me up for a little bit. I gotta be honest. I was like, I had to think about this for a little bit, but what was your favorite musical moment of the entire Goldblum season? Um, it was tough.

[00:43:18] I was, I debated putting Lush Life as the answer because like you were just talking about, the whole movie is sort of about. Sure. Being a cool jazz cat. But I didn't feel quite like a moment, you know, that kind of is an entire movie about jazz and music. Uh, so I went with that one moment in the SVU episode where he destroys that guy's life dream by sitting at the piano. Uh, criminal intent episode, Mike. Criminal intent. Yeah. Yeah. Where he gets up, uh, on stage, like at a bar or whatever after a show and confronts like

[00:43:44] their suspect, uh, who has murdered his bandmate so he can play lead guitar at the big show and get his big break. Uh, and Goldblum tells him like, you know, every year of 10 million people come to the city looking to be a musician. And he's just like, you know, tickling the ivories while he's telling them, uh, and blah, blah, blah. And don't give up on your hopes and dreams. Kid is basically the summary. Um, and it's just so funny and weirdly sinister that, uh, that, that was my favorite musical moment. Nice. Uh, that is a great answer. Uh, and mine, uh, I had a couple of things that I was kind of throwing around out there.

[00:44:13] I was thinking to myself if I should put down a song from the Capitol studio sessions, uh, which was the live Goldblum jazz album that we reviewed a few weeks back. Uh, and if I did me and my shadow with him and Sarah Silverman would be my pick. I really enjoy that one. Uh, I was also thinking about the, uh, the elephant man musical and the tall guy, which, I mean, how could you forget that one? That's great. Uh, you know, I mean, there are many movies where Goldblum just like suddenly is playing music. Uh, and it's very fun. Uh, and then I thought, wait, well, there's one musical cue that we've kept coming back to this entire podcast.

[00:44:42] Uh, and it's, you know, whenever any character has seen better days. Uh, I feel like we haven't done the better days joke in a while, Mike. So I had to get one in there at least, uh, for this final episode, you know? Yes. Yes. Good job. Very proud of you. Uh, yes, absolutely. I mean, I think, I do think that music cue is just, I mean, obviously that's from the movie chain of fools, uh, with, uh, Steve Zahn and Jeff Goldblum and David Cross and

[00:45:11] just a huge ensemble of people is very much indicative of like that time period. It just feels like this, it's firmly cements it that that movie came out in the year 2000, like that better days plays over the opening credits of that movie. Like, yes. Yeah. And that Goldblum spends 80% of that movie dead. Yes. It's a corpse being weekend at Bernie around the apartment. Yeah. Uh, very, very good. Underrated picture, I think chain of fools, but, uh, there you go. All right. Debated getting it on my discoveries list to be honest, but didn't make it.

[00:45:40] Uh, didn't, didn't quite make mine either, but a fun movie nonetheless. I really enjoyed it. Uh, all right. So yeah, those are our 10 categories. Uh, once again, uh, that's too much to run down again. If you want to, if you want to run them down again, you can listen back to the podcast. Yeah. Actually, you know what? I mean, let's, let's do it anyway. Why not? Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, Mike, uh, why don't you run down your categories? Uh, my favorite cameo was incident at Loch Ness. My favorite underseen lead role was vibes.

[00:46:06] My favorite movie involving aliens is the adventures of Buckaroo Banzai across the eighth dimension. Uh, my favorite voice role was Prince of Egypt. My favorite Euro go blue movie, uh, was the tall guy. My favorite early bit part was next stop Greenwich village. Uh, my favorite era, quote unquote, the figures of authority arrows. Okay. 2010s somewhere in there. Sure. Favorite Goldblum reunion was Scott Glenn all four times. Uh, my favorite TV thing is search party season five.

[00:46:35] And my favorite musical moment was from, uh, law and order criminal intent where he destroys a guy's hopes and dreams. Fair enough. And, uh, my favorite cameo was run Ronnie run, uh, or incident at Loch Ness. My favorite underseen lead role was the tall guy. Uh, my favorite movie involving aliens. Also Buckaroo Banzai across the eighth dimension. Favorite voice role, Isle of Dogs. Favorite Euro Goldblum movie. The favor of the watch and the very big fish. Favorite early bit part, the right stuff or death wish. Uh, favorite era, the on the rise eighties era of Goldblum.

[00:47:05] Uh, favorite Goldblum reunion, Ed Begley Jr. Favorite TV thing, Lush Life. And, uh, favorite musical moment, either the elephant man musical and the tall guy, Me or My Shadow from the capital studio sessions. Or, of course, Better Days by Citizen King and Chain of Fools. Nice. Uh, there you go. So those are the special ten categories that, uh, we kind of put together for this episode. And, hey, that only took us less than an hour. We still got three more big things to get through. Yeah, we're flying through this. We're flying through. All right.

[00:47:31] So, uh, now we're transitioning into our top five Goldblum discoveries of all time. The movies that we had not seen before the podcast, or maybe even had never even heard of before the podcast. And, uh, actually, that is the case for me. All five of my discoveries are movies that I had never even heard of, um, before doing this podcast. Maybe one of them I had seen, like, in passing. Like, you know, seen it, like, through a list or something. Um, but for the most part, I hadn't really heard of any of these movies.

[00:47:57] And there are a few discoveries in my actual top ten list that we'll get to later this episode that I did not include here just for, again, the sake of diversity. Yeah, same. Uh, all five of my discoveries were movies I had never heard of before doing the podcast. Excellent. All right. So, Mike, your number five discovery through the Goldblum podcast. Um, this was kind of tough, honestly, because we decided, uh, that our discoveries, like you just mentioned, uh, would be five movies that we were not including on our top ten favorites. Right.

[00:48:25] So, I was kind of, kind of splitting the list a little bit there. Um, so it was hard. I had a couple crossed out. A couple, like, moved from list to list. You know, that kind of thing. Uh, but number five for my top five discoveries is Between the Lines. Nice. There you are. I've been looking all over for you guys. Where you been? I came to say goodbye. I'm not going anywhere. I am. Where you going? Or a gun. To do what?

[00:48:51] Write a book about the loss of innocence, alienation, corruption. Kidding? Yeah. I had you going there for a second, didn't I? Yes, this is a, the kind of, uh, underground newspaper in New Jersey workplace comedy thing. Um, where Goldblum plays the music reporter and it's all about getting to that Southside Johnny and the Asbury Juke show by the end of the movie, which is a real band.

[00:49:20] I need to reiterate, a real band. Right. They're having a party. And, yeah, a lot of fun. Just kind of a, I think 80s, like, hangout workplace movie. Then I remember there's one moment where one guy comes in and just trashes the whole office and I don't remember why. Right. But Goldblum is, like, also trashing the office, like, in retaliation to that guy. Yeah, like, just jumps up there and gets at his face. And there's a whole thing about, uh, a whole long monologue that Goldblum has about identifying the best bootleg records and all this stuff, um, in the music shop with the new guy.

[00:49:49] Uh, so, yeah, a lot of fun between the lines. Had never heard of it. And I'm glad, glad we got to watch it. And it's, like, pops up on the Criterion channel a bunch now sometimes. Yep. So that's pretty cool. Cool to see real early Jeff Goldblum in a pretty substantial supporting ensemble role. Absolutely, yeah. This is an honorable mention for me as far as my discoveries go. Uh, I really enjoyed this movie. Uh, and I feel like it's only gotten better, like, the more I've thought about it kind of over time. This is directed by Joan Micklin-Silver, who recently passed away, I believe. Yeah. Uh, and she also directed, uh, Chili Scenes of Winter and a couple other kind of big movies

[00:50:18] in the 70s and 80s. Uh, and yeah, Between the Lines is a movie that I had not heard of before the podcast. Uh, watched it and really enjoyed it. Uh, it is also, I believe, the first, like, substantial Goldblum role that we get. Like, we mentioned Next Up Great Edge Village is, like, the first time he has, like, any kind of, like, semi-major role where he's in, like, two scenes and he has- He's got dialogue. He's got dialogue, exactly. Like, other than, like, the three lines he has in California Split, you know? Yeah. Uh, and so, you know, that was kind of the first time he got to speak on screen substantially. Um, but here he's, like, actually a major player in the ensemble.

[00:50:48] You know, he's- And it's John Heard and, uh, Gwen Wells and, uh, a really terrific cast that that movie kind of brings together. And, you know, I'm just a fan of, uh, shaggy alternative newspaper magazines. You know, that's- that's great. Yeah. I'm all in. That's- that's my kind of crew, you know? Exactly. About the corporate takeover of the paper and these guys kind of, like, fucking off on their last work week. Yeah. It's the Empire Records of 1977. Like, 100%. Exactly. Uh, yeah, so that is, uh, between the lines, Mike's number five discovery, uh, for the Gold

[00:51:17] Bloom podcast. Uh, my number five is one that has been mentioned a few times already, and that is The Tall Guy. The thing is, the thing is, uh, all these weeks I've been coming here, I've been wanting to ask you something. What I really want to know is, what's your name? Kate. Lemon. Sorry, babe. No. Not at all. Uh, it could have been worse. It could have been called Hitler or tampon or something. Hey.

[00:51:45] Uh, from 1989, directed by Mel Smith and written by Richard Curtis, this was episode 31 of the podcast. And, like we said before, I mean, not much new to add to it, uh, just an absolute screwball delight. I think Gold Bloom's great in it. Emma Thompson is, uh, just a really fun romantic comedy kind of leading person, uh, in here as well. Uh, and their chemistry is so great. Like, it made me wish there was more movies with them together in it, because they're so great together in this movie. Yeah. The running bit at the beginning too, like how they meet where he's like going for a hay fever vaccine or something.

[00:52:15] And he just keeps making up reasons to come back and get different vaccines. He says he's going to Africa and has to come back for like eight weeks of vaccines. Yeah, exactly. What a delight. Good one. Yes. Yeah. The tall guy. So yeah, we've mentioned it a lot already, so I won't harp too much on it. But yeah, the tall guy is my number five Gold Bloom discovery. Mike, what is your number four? My number four is one I already talked about, uh, as well. And that is vibes. Uh, I had a blast with this movie. You talked to, I talked about it before, but yeah, good.

[00:52:42] I'm glad this is, this is the kind of stuff that I love doing the complete works for not necessarily vibes specifically, but like he's kind of just forgotten about cult movies that for some reason nobody remembers. I don't know. Like this movie is charming and it's not that great, I guess, but it's fun. It was extremely disliked when it first came out. Like it was insane. Got incredibly negative reviews, which yeah, this is a delight. I like this movie a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So number four, I wanted to highlight it a little bit more than just my favorite underseen lead role. It's one of my favorite discoveries. Yes.

[00:53:12] And also one that I feel like I've seen a little bit more of a cult grow around this movie in the years since we've reviewed it. Because between the lines is one that we hadn't really heard of and hadn't really seen much about. And then I think criterion remastered it or Janice films remastered it or something like that between the lines. And then maybe put it out on the criterion channel every once in a while and has played on TCM. And I know vibes has played on TCM underground a few times since we reviewed it. So I'm not saying we should take the credit for that, but I'm also not not saying that,

[00:53:40] you know, maybe maybe interest was generated because of us. Correct. Yeah. The same way we can't technically claim credit for unbearable weight of massive talent, but, but we're pretty convinced that Nicolas Cage listens to the podcast and came up with the idea while listening to it. Yes. All right. So that is vibes. Mike's number four Goldblum discovery. My number four is a TV movie directed by Richard Levinson and William Link, the creators of Columbo. And that is 1982's rehearsal for murder. Oh, pick a subject.

[00:54:10] Opening nights, doing a favor for an intimate friend. What? Huh? Going to medical school. You did go, didn't you, for a few years? I imagine you had courses in chemistry. Well, that was a long time ago. Why? What's this all about? She knows. That's fine. About that. She had it analyzed. Brother. Brother. Okay. Look, we spiked your tea, but it wouldn't have harmed you. Just would have slowed you down for tonight. The question is, what are you going to do? I told you it was crazy. You wouldn't listen. Be quiet.

[00:54:39] Put people in jail for something like this. My God. I forgot all about this. This movie rules, man. It's so good. It's a great murder mystery. It's Jeff Goldblum. It's a couple of the guys who are on Boy Meets World. Right? Yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, an older actor or director or whatever. His wife, who was an actress, died a year ago. And he assembles all the people that he thinks may have been involved with the murder.

[00:55:05] And gets them together and starts having them act out this new play that he's written. But as they're acting out the play, it turns out he may have deduced who killed his wife. And he's trying to play this game with them through the play. So all that kind of stuff. And it is just a very fun time. Always down for a good whodunit. And I think this is a very solid one from, I mean, the guys who created Columbo. So, like, it makes sense that it would be a good whodunit, you know? Yeah, yeah. That's just kind of their thing. Their one more thing, if you will.

[00:55:35] But, yeah. That was episode 16 of the podcast, Russell for Murder. And one I really enjoyed. Yeah. This is a movie I kind of forgot about a little bit. I remember you really liking it at the time. And I was really nervous when you mentioned before that there's, like, another TV thing coming up. You thought I was going to say, like, Sleepy Hollow or something? I was like, if this motherfucker says Legend of Sleepy Hollow anywhere. I've been lying about how much I like Sleepy Hollow this entire time. They're playing the long con. Excellent. Excellent choice.

[00:56:04] All right. So that's Rehearsal for Murder. My number four. Mike, what is your number three? Goldblum Discovery of all time. My number three, Goldblum Discovery, is Special Delivery, which is a movie that kind of came out of nowhere for us. It's one of the, like we said, it's one of those early street punk number two movie, whatever, kind of roles for Goldblum. But it's about these veterans, Vietnam veterans, or whatever, like these kind of down. It's a bank heist goes wrong, basically. Right. Or a heist goes wrong. Bo Svensson is the lead of the crew.

[00:56:34] And he's got the suitcase full of money or whatever they're stealing. I don't even really remember. And he is on the run and he dumps it in a mailbox on a street corner. Yes. And he kind of cons his way into Sybil Shepard's apartment, I believe, which is on the corner that overlooks, has a window overlooking the mailbox because he's got to watch it now for when the mailman comes. You pick up the delivery, the special delivery from the mailbox so he can get back his stolen goods.

[00:57:03] And it's got one of the funniest pan to moments where Bo Svensson and Sybil Shepard have sex. And instead of panning to the fireplace, it pans out the window to the mailbox. Yeah. So good. Chef's kiss. And it's just a real like down and dirty 70s, you know, kind of exploitation action movie, you know, and it's fun. Rough and tumble. Jeff Goldblum gets his ass. I think he's like a motorcycle guy in this, too. Like a boyfriend dude. And Bo Svensson one punch kills him like he does all the bad guys in this movie.

[00:57:33] It's great. Absolutely. Yeah. Special delivery is your number three. Goldblum discovery. And it might pop up on later, later on my list. So I will toss it out there. I also want to talk more about it soon. I want to shout out the the Lala Schifrin score as well. Oh, yes. Yes. I forgot about that. Composed Mission Impossible theme. It's the best. Yes. Yes. So good. All right. We'll talk more about that in a minute. My number three. Goldblum discovery is from 2008. Episode 68 of this podcast. And that is Adam Resurrected.

[00:58:03] Wow. Interesting. Which is a Paul Schrader picture. Mike's favorite filmmaker of all time. I've seen three of his movies. That's enough. Exactly. Adam Resurrected is a really bizarre movie. And one that I think shouldn't work as well as it does. It has a lot of similarities with The Day the Clown Cried, which is an unreleased Jerry Lewis movie that is unreleased because it is notoriously offensive and should never be seen by anyone. Yes. Basically, why it never came out.

[00:58:34] Adam Resurrected is about a Jewish comedian in Germany in the 30s and 40s who ends up in a concentration camp and he gets separated from his family and gets taken in by a Nazi general who forces him to act like a dog. The general played by Willem Dafoe. And so that is kind of the flashbacks of the movie. You're seeing that kind of in flashbacks, but then during the present day, you're seeing or present day, there's flash forwards to 1962 where like the main action of the story is taking place. Right.

[00:59:01] That's Goldblum kind of living in this home for people who have survived traumatic events and the Holocaust and things like that. You're kind of filling in the gaps of Goldblum's life and, you know, some of the horrific things that happened to it while he is still putting on that kind of comedic persona and kind of dealing with this trauma in that way. And there's like a weird, almost supernatural element to it, too, where, you know, Goldblum may have the power to make himself bleed at will.

[00:59:27] And also then at the end, there's like this whole big sequence where Goldblum is kind of dealing with this trauma head on by like the ghost of Willem Dafoe is shouting at him and through the flames and all that kind of stuff. It's a really intense, crazy movie. It is one of the rare later period Goldblum lead performances. And I think he's really incredible in this movie, like genuinely deserving of like Oscar recognition. If you know, this movie had been slightly more mainstream, which it definitely isn't. But one that I found really fascinating.

[00:59:57] So I'm throwing it out there as my number three discovery in the Goldblum podcast. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely worthy to put it up there, too, because that movie. Yeah. And there's also the whole plot where a young boy comes to the psychiatric facility who also believes he's a dog, which is like what causes all the flashbacks for Goldblum as he has like all that repressed trauma and stuff comes up. And then he becomes a dog again as an adult. And like he has to save this boy. And yeah, man, what if I can? This is like the most movie movie that he was ever in.

[01:00:27] You know, there is a lot there for sure. So, yes, that's my number three Goldblum discovery for the podcast. Mike, what's your number two? My number two is one I already talked about as well. And that is the incident at Loch Ness. Last summer, a distinguished team of filmmakers and scientists set out on an extraordinary expedition. Show me one piece of evidence that proves this thing does not exist. They're saying show us the evidence. I'm saying show us the non-evidence.

[01:00:56] Their mission to uncover the legendary secrets of Loch Ness. A lot of strange things happened on the boat. And I just knew that there was something seriously wrong. I'm kind of cheating. I wanted to put this here. I really love this movie. I would have could have put this in the top 10 movies of the whole series. But because Goldblum is only a cameo, he's in it for a minute and a half. I was like, all right, I just got to put it on the discoveries. Get it out there. Rehighlight it. Because I love this movie.

[01:01:25] This movie is insane. Werner Herzog. Is Werner Herzog co-directed or written? I don't remember who's got technically what credit. But Zach Penn. Zach Penn directed and I believe he co-wrote with Werner Herzog. Yeah. Who made Behind Enemy Lines one of the greatest action movies of all time. We talked about it. I might go to the movies. Yes, yes. Most recently Free Guy, which is insane. The sensibilities to pair Zach Penn and Werner Herzog together is just absolutely mind boggling. Yes. Chef's kiss.

[01:01:54] And yeah, Werner Herzog is out to film a real documentary about the myth of the Loch Ness monster and why we as humans need storytelling and myth-making and legends. And Zach Penn is trying to make a fake monster movie without Werner Herzog knowing about it. And just the shenanigans that ensue from there and the whole fake is this real documentary thing. Right. So much fun. They're out. So Incident at Loch Ness, my number two. Nice. Yeah.

[01:02:24] I mean, that's a great pick. A movie that I also really enjoyed. And there's just so much fun that the movie has in lampooning Werner Herzog's persona as well. Because obviously everybody in the movie is playing themselves, including my crew members who are first AD on other movies and stuff. They're just in this as part of the camera crew and things like that. The cinematographer guy makes a lot of MCU movies now, right? If I remember correctly. Yes. Yeah, I believe he does. So there's that too.

[01:02:48] And yeah, the idea of making fun of the history of Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski and some of the terrible shoots that happened on Werner Herzog films and all that kind of stuff. And Zach Penn kind of taking influence from that and all that kind of stuff is really fun. Yeah. Incident at Loch Ness. Just a really weird discovery that we only got to watch because Goldblum pops up in it for 10 seconds. Yeah. Thank God he's in this movie. Yes, absolutely. So there you go. That is Incident at Loch Ness. Mike's number two. And then my number two is one that Mike mentioned already.

[01:03:16] That is Special Delivery from 1976. Sybil Shepard, that taxi driver girl. Okay, fellas. And Bo Svensson, the six foot six inch star of Walking Tall Part Two, come together in Special Delivery. You don't think I'm trying to pick you up, do you? Yep. Well, you're right. Wow. Surprises so high for you. Yeah, I really love this movie. And like I said, a few of my discoveries are in my top 10. So I didn't count those ones towards this. But even so, this probably would have still cracked the top five.

[01:03:44] You know, this was episode five of the podcast directed by Paul Wenkos. And I mean, you kind of described it perfectly before. And just a tight, great 70s thriller and reminds you of how efficient so many of those kind of movies were. You know, and this is this one is like kind of forgotten. It's not really a well-known movie by any means. Bo Svensson as a leading man is not somebody that you hear about a lot outside of like podcasts that Quentin Tarantino was on or something.

[01:04:09] And that's where you get most of your Bo Svensson news out of. But yeah, Bo Svensson and Civil Shepard are so great in this movie together. Tom Atkins is the police officer, I think, who's trying to get them, right? I think so. Yeah, this movie rips. It's so good. I mean, like you mentioned, that level of shift from score is great. And it just ratchets up that tension so well. I forget who is the guy who is also trying to get. Oh, it's Garrett Graham from Phantom of the Paradise. Oh, yes.

[01:04:38] Who is like the guy who's also trying to get into the mailbox, I think. Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's like a couple of people trying to get the item they stole or whatever it is. Yeah. And so, yes, really cool people that pop up in this movie. And yeah, Jeff Goldblum plays like thug number three or whatever it is, you know, special freak or whoever. And he gets knocked out by Bo Svensson pretty quick and all that kind of stuff, which is fun. But yeah, Special Delivery, just a movie that really was not on my radar at all. I think I had to watch it. We had to find some way to watch it online. I know I bought the Kino Lorber Blu-ray.

[01:05:08] I don't know if you also bought it. I bought it after we watched the movie. Oh, wow. Okay. We did the podcast and then there was a Kino Lorber sale shortly afterwards. And I was like, I got to get special delivery. So, you know, there are a few movies that we covered over the course of this podcast that we picked up on Blu-ray or DVD just because they were kind of hard to find. And they happened to be available through like a Blu-ray sale or something like Translating 6,000, 5,000. It was, I think, one that we both picked up. I think that was also Kino Lorber.

[01:05:33] We also ended up getting Welcome to Hollywood through like eBay or something like that on DVD by the suggestion of the director, Adam Rifkin, which was pretty fun. Yeah. I think I also, I think we both also bought Next Stop Greenwich Village, I think. I did buy that. I think it was after the episode came out. I think it was after we did it. But I did buy Next Stop Greenwich Village. I have that now. Fun times, you know, physical media. Absolutely. Yeah. We could forget war stories. War stories. Well, I didn't buy war stories. You did. Oh, my God.

[01:06:03] I'm the only one that bought that? I used my Netflix DVD by mail for war stories. Ah, you son of a bitch. Yes. They had it for some reason. So I went with it. But yeah, you own war stories now forever. You get to watch Ed Beckley Jr. die in that movie. Yeah. Just be a real conservative asshole and then get murdered. Yes. Real shockingly, which is pretty wild. But yeah, so war stories, also a fun time. Did not make my honorable mentions. But yeah, special delivery was my number two. Goldblum Discovery for the podcast.

[01:06:33] And now we are down to our number ones. What was the number one discovery for you on this podcast, Mike? I feel like we're probably going to have the same pick for this one. I don't think we will. Oh, interesting. Spicy. But I'm glad that you kind of stipulated that we can't put them on both lists. And I feel sort of like this is the concession. This probably would have been number one or two overall. But Goldblum has specifically one scene in this movie. And that is California Split. Says you can't name the seven dwarves.

[01:07:06] Okay. I know I can name three or four of them. But now you've got to be able to seven of them. I got seven. Dark. That's one. Dopey. That's two. Uh, Snoopy. There is no Snoopy. There ain't no Snoopy. I know there's Doc. There's Dopey. There's Grumpy. There's, uh... You don't have $20 here. Wait a second. I got $20 right here. Come on. I need a little help here. What about...

[01:07:35] Here comes seven like a gatling gun. Okay. Seven dwarves. I'm ready. Sleepy, Grumpy, Doc. That's four. That's three. Oh. One of the Altman joints, I believe, that he was in, right? I can't remember. This was the first Robert Altman movie of the four that Goldblum pops up. It's been. Yes. Yeah. With, uh, Elliot Gould. Yes. George Siegel. As these two just degenerate gambling addicts that kind of meet each other. Uh, and I don't really remember how. I don't know.

[01:08:03] I haven't watched it since we, uh, watched it for the podcast. And just kind of spiral around each other into just depravity and, you know, kind of ruining their lives. And, uh, half the movie seems to be improvised, which I know is like the whole Altman schtick and, and these two guys, Elliot Gould, they don't, they don't make leading men like Elliot Gould and George Siegel anymore. You know? Oh, man. Well, I mean, two of the best right there. The so good. Two of the best. Um, and the, uh, they're just gambling the whole time. And they're, they're, that first scene at the bar. I forget.

[01:08:30] And they're at the bar together, uh, and they're kind of like betting each other, like who can name the seven dwarves? Uh, and they're just shithouse drunk. Uh, and, and George Siegel has this, the great, this great line read where he's like, here we go. Seven names coming up like a Gatling gun. And he's, he gets two in and just forgets. Um, it's just, I think he says Dumbo at one point. Yeah. And it's the two that Elliot Gould already said before who went first. It's so good.

[01:08:59] Uh, just hilarious. Um, yeah. What was the other line? There's like the one other line in the movie where, uh, I think somebody like gets mad at them. They're at the racetrack. They're at the racetrack and somebody throws like oranges at them. And while they're like leaving, it's like, you can't throw oranges on an escalator lady. Yes. They're like getting chased out. Yes. Um, hilarious. There's so much fun. And yeah, Goblin plays, uh, the like newspaper editor or something where George Siegel works. Uh, and he's the, you know, the young upstart editor there.

[01:09:28] And yeah, the son of the guy who owns the place or something. Right. Yeah. And he's like George Siegel's character. You're late for a meeting. And that's his one line that he's gotten the whole movie. Uh, so that's why I want to put it here on the discoveries list. Cause Goldblum's barely in it, but this movie is amazing. And I'm so glad that we found it for this podcast. Nice. Uh, well, I, I don't abide by the same code of ethics that you do as far as how much Goldblum should be in a movie mic. Uh, so it might pop up again later on this episode. Very fair. Very fair.

[01:09:55] Uh, but a great choice for your number one, uh, discovery for sure. My number one discovery that I picked, uh, is a movie that, uh, earlier you said, you said you didn't like them, uh, which is, which is how I know that it wasn't going to be your number one. Uh, and that is from 2007. It is Faye Grimm. Agent Fulbright. We'd like to ask you some questions about your husband. Henry hasn't been in contact with you, has he? I hope I never see him again. You understand that Henry kept a diary. Many volumes. Yeah.

[01:10:25] So was it treasonous? I just read the dirty parts. Uh, directed by Hal Hartley. This was episode 66 of the podcast. Um, and here's the difference between me and you, Mike. I did watch the first movie. Uh, and in fact, uh, so. Faye Grimm is the sequel to Henry fool from, uh, I believe 1997. You know, that's a Hal Hartley movie from that era. And that movie is a very good comedy drama, dark comedy sort of thing about a guy who is

[01:10:52] just like, uh, like he's a garbage man, has no real direction in his life. He meets this interesting author act person named Henry fool who ends up getting him a book deal. And like, actually like this guy turns out to have like a major talent and he gets scouted by like, you know, he gets like this huge book deal. He's making like millions and millions of dollars. Meanwhile, Henry fool is like this deranged psychopath who like has made nothing of value in his entire life essentially. Right.

[01:11:19] Uh, and he strikes up a kind of a romance with, uh, this guy's sister, uh, played by Parker Posey, uh, which is great. And, uh, then Faye Grimm is the sequel to Henry fool, which Henry fool kind of ends on this cliffhanger. You're not really sure what's supposed to happen. And I wouldn't say cliffhanger because, uh, you know, there was no plans for a sequel to Henry fool. I don't think at the time, uh, it ends on an ambiguous note. I think that's kind of the way to describe it. Uh, and then Faye Grimm picks up, you know, years later, uh, and now we're focused on Parker Posey's character.

[01:11:46] Now Parker Posey is the main character, but all the characters from Henry fool are pretty much back in this movie. Uh, and it takes that kind of dark comedy drama and turns it into an espionage spy thriller. And, uh, I watched these movies back to back. Like I watched Henry fool and watched Faye Grimm immediately afterwards. And the tonal whiplash that I experienced doing that, uh, was just wild. I felt so out of sorts watching Faye Grimm, uh, which I think is part of the point.

[01:12:15] I think, uh, you know, it's, it feels like such a different movie from Henry fool while at the same time building on so much of what Henry fool established. Uh, and in that sense, I think it really is like the perfect sequel. I really enjoyed it, but I also think it's a movie that you would never understand if you hadn't seen the first movie. Uh, can confirm, can confirm. That's what happened. And I freely admit that that's, you know, my fault for having not watched the, the first one. Yeah. Well, I think we weren't even going to watch, like I, we discovered that it was a sequel

[01:12:43] like a few days before we were going to record the episode. Yeah. Uh, and I was like, okay, well, you know, I, I might watch Henry fool if I get the chance, but like, you know, we're too far in now. We'll just have to go. We'll just have to go in blind with the sequel. I'm sure it'll be fine. Uh, and then like a day later I was describing to a friend of the podcast, Mike Emmons that, uh, our next movie is fake rim. Uh, and he had seen it and he was like, oh, you gotta watch Henry fool first. And I was like, really? He's like, oh yeah, you need to watch Henry fool first. I was like, all right. So I went for it. Uh, so did that.

[01:13:10] Uh, and it, uh, it worked out for me, uh, obviously not as well for you. I believe you watched the first like 20 minutes of Henry fool. Uh, but for tiny reasons had to skip ahead. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I had to, I had to abandon, uh, abandon all hope there and just like, well, I gotta make sure I watch figure him. So I, I gave up on Henry fool. Right. Uh, and went to fake rim. So, you know, maybe one day, maybe one day I'll do the double feature and have a, have a renewed appreciation for fake rim. Yeah. There you go. And, uh, Jeff Goldblum of course is in fake rim.

[01:13:36] He plays, uh, uh, the FBI agent who is kind of trying to track down Henry fool and using Parker Posey's character to get to him. Uh, and turns out Goldblum may have some sinister motivations behind his plots and, uh, all that kind of stuff. And I think Goldblum is really terrific here. I think he fits into the world of Hal Hartley, uh, really well. I think Hal Hartley's dialogue tends to be very verbose and direct. And I think Goldblum delivers that really well. Uh, and I think Goldblum's fate at the end is also, uh, just very entertaining. So, uh, yeah, fake rim is great.

[01:14:02] Uh, there is a third movie called Ned rifle, which I have not watched yet, but I definitely want to, I just haven't gotten around to it. Uh, I know there is like a blu-ray set available of the three of them now. Uh, I don't think, I don't think it's from like any of the major, uh, blu-ray distributors or anything like that, but, uh, like some kind of independent one, it might even be overseas, like a European release or something, uh, put out like a blu-ray set of all three of the, the Henry fool trilogy and Faye Grimm is, uh, is the second one and really terrific. So yeah, I'm throwing it out. There's my number one, uh, Goldblum discovery of all time. Hell yeah.

[01:14:32] And that's also the, the Dutch angle movie, right? Every shot is except for one or something like that. I believe there's like one shot of the movie, according to Hal Hartley, that was not a Dutch angle. And the reason is that they forgot, I believe is, which is amazing. That's pretty great. I was very upfront about that. Uh, so yeah, so, uh, let's run down your top five once again, Mike. Sure. My number five was between the lines. Number four was vibes. Number three was special delivery.

[01:15:01] Number two was instant at Loch Ness. My number one discovery from the podcast was California split. All right. And for my top five discoveries, uh, my number five was the tall guy, uh, number four rehearsal from murder. Uh, number three, Adam resurrected number two, special delivery. And my number one was Faye Grimm. Do you have any honorable mentions you want to throw out there for discoveries, Mike? Um, sure. Yeah. There was actually a couple that I crossed off, uh, and replaced, you know, at the bottom of the list there. Uh, Dallas, three 62, three 65, whatever the hell.

[01:15:31] I have that one in there too. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that movie has no right to be any good, but I remember it being very funny. Uh, and as a bit where they're like crash zooming on a doorknob over and over and over again. And it goes nowhere and go bloom plays a therapist. And then, uh, I kind of forget a little bit about it other than it's the Scott con movie and then Scott con is not the lead. And then we were like both very shocked by that. Right. So that was fun. So there'll Dallas three 62. Um, and then also the, uh, forgotten masterpiece, uh, morning glory.

[01:16:02] I mean, yeah. Morning glory. Fucking great. It slaps. It's so good. It's man. Morning glory is a movie that like, as I was watching it, I was like, this is fine. And then the more we talked about it, I was like, is this great? What a picture is this art? This is art. Um, yeah. So I wanted to, you know, I didn't, maybe not quite top five, but definitely movie that I only watched because of this movie, uh, or because of this podcast, it was dreading watching it. And it turned out to be one of my faves. Yeah. It was a delight.

[01:16:30] Uh, and actually speaking of one of my honorable mentions, uh, you know, Roger Michel directed morning glory also directed late weekend, uh, which was a really terrific movie with, uh, Jim Broadbent and Jeff Goldblum pops up in like kind of a major supporting role in that movie. And I think he's really terrific in it. Uh, so yeah, I wanted to throw that one out there as an honorable mention, uh, between the lines is also an honorable mention for me as well as is Dallas three 62. I got vibes in here, uh, also as an honorable mention. And then also wanted to throw out there, uh, remember my name, uh, which was a really

[01:16:59] solid kind of psychological drama slash thriller. There are moments in that movie that are so, so tense, but then it's ultimately like it kind of deflates towards the end in a purposeful way, uh, which I think is really interesting. And, uh, that's a starring Geraldine Chaplin and lead role. Goldblum only has like a scene or two here and there where he is like the manager of a store that has hired her. Right. Right. Yeah. Like a supermarket or whatever. Yeah, exactly. I think, I think it's like a clothing store. Uh, and yeah, and she, and she's like trying to, trying to figure out like how to get back

[01:17:27] with her ex-husband and he wants no part of her. And there's that one sequence where she is like sneaking into his house and, uh, his new wife is there or like his new girlfriend or whoever there's just minutes and minutes go by, uh, where she's in the house and the new wife is completely oblivious. To it. I think the husband might show up at some point at that moment too. And then when they finally see her, it's like, Oh my God, like it's so tense. Uh, and that's a direct by Alan Rudolph who, uh, worked with the Robert Altman on some of his films and brought him over kind of from that camp.

[01:17:55] But, uh, yeah, I want to throw that one out there, uh, as an honorable mention as well. Is Anthony Perkins the husband? I think you're right. Yeah, I believe he is. I believe he is. Yeah. Uh, which, yeah, that was good. I liked that movie a lot. And I believe that's also one that has kind of seen maybe not like a, a cult surrounding it since then, but like I've seen it pop up in the criterion channel since then, you know, and, uh, it's popped up on TCM and here and there. So, uh, you know, people are seeing it, which is cool. That's good. We're, we're really at the forefront of criterion getting movies. Yeah. You know what?

[01:18:24] I'm just saying we reviewed deep cover and then like six months later, there was a criterion Blu-ray. Who's, who is to take credit for that one, Mike? Draw from that what you will. Exactly. All right. So, uh, those are some honorable mentions and, uh, that wraps up our top five Goldbloom discoveries. And, uh, Mike, do you feel this at this point, would you like to take a break, uh, so we can get some more water, refresh a little bit? Okay. Let's take a little intermission. All right. Yeah. Do an intermission. Play like a, a, a Goldbloom musical moment that is as yet to be determined.

[01:18:53] And, uh, probably me in my shadow. I'll play me in my shadow as we go into this. Uh, there you go. When we come back, we'll be doing our top 10 Goldbloom performances.

[01:19:01] All right.

[01:19:55] That was Jeff Goldblum in the Mildred Sensor Orchestra performing at me in my shadow. And, uh, that I think it's a perfect way to segue into our next segment of the show, which is our top 10 Goldbloom performances of all time. And these are not the Goldbloom movies of all time. There may be some overlap between these two, but these are the 10 best performances that we've each clocked over the course of the last 88 episodes of the show. So Mike, what is your number 10 Jeff Goldblum performance of all time?

[01:20:23] Uh, my number 10 performance is, uh, one of the most recent ones we just did. And that is The Mountain. Ah, interesting. Yeah, this is, uh, probably the second most movie movie he made is in, uh, behind, uh, Adam Resurrected, where he's playing this, uh, doctor in the 50s taking a little baby Ty Sheridan on a road trip of lobotomies. Um, where he's going from mental institution to mental institution, performing this procedure

[01:20:53] and drinking himself to death basically. And, and, uh, real big, weird psychological drama, family abuse type deal. Um, and it's real, real intense. There's a big, long monologue in French at the end by that one guy about like art and like, that's a painting of a mountain. It's not the real mountain. And the movie's called The Mountain. Yeah, it's real intense. Uh, but I think, I think Goldblum does an amazing job for this very morose, dark kind

[01:21:21] of drab shot in four, three, everything's washed out because life is bad in the 50s movie where then you compare it to like Thor Ragnarok or whatever. What are those other movies in this era where it's like goofy, light and fluffy world according to Jeff Goldblum type stuff. So yeah, The Mountain, number 10. Nice. All right. I think it's a good pick. And, uh, you know, The Mountain, not a movie that I liked all that much, but I think liked it a little bit more after we talked about it on the podcast. I think it generates, uh, some discussion. I mean, you, you seem to like it more than I did for sure.

[01:21:49] But, uh, yeah, I cannot deny Goldblum is really terrific in it to the degree where he might pop up later in my list. Uh, so we'll see what happens. Well, Jeff Goldblum will pop up in my list a few times. Imagine you somehow did top 10 Jeff Goldblum performances and he's not in any of them. It's like, oh no, I ranked all my Ed Begley Jr. Performance. No, no. My number 10, uh, is actually, uh, Jeff Goldblum in the role he was born to play himself. Uh, and that is Jeff Goldblum in Pittsburgh. Ah, interesting.

[01:22:19] From 2006. And, uh, you know, I found this movie to be really fascinating. It's a pretty good movie. It's a mockumentary in which Jeff Goldblum plays himself. He ends up in a relationship with this woman who's on Broadway. He ends up taking a role in a regional production of the music man in his hometown of Pittsburgh in order to be closer to her, uh, because she gets cast in the play as well. For whatever reason, she gets like laid off from her play and she needs work and all that kind of stuff.

[01:22:47] Uh, so they end up with the music man together in Pittsburgh. Uh, and this completely derails Jeff Goldblum's film career. Yes. Right. 100%. And, uh, there's scenes with him going on talk shows and he's like, they want to talk to him about the life aquatic and he's like, yes, but I really want to talk about this production of the music man that I'm in in Pittsburgh. Uh, and it's, you know, filled with all kinds of cameos from celebrities playing themselves like Ed Beckley Jr. Or Ileana Douglas or Moby, which, eh, but, uh, Pittsburgh I think is a pretty fun movie.

[01:23:15] And I think the fact that Jeff Goldblum is playing himself feels like, you know, it's unbearable way to master talent years before we got to that movie, you know? Right. Uh, you know, for Nicholas Cage, at least. I mean, Jeff Goldblum has always been much more in tune with the idea of his persona and then in turn lampooning that persona. I think, uh, as far as, as far as that goes compared to Nicholas Cage, I think he does a really good job of doing that. And, uh, you know, he plays himself in other things. He's himself in Run, Ronnie, Run.

[01:23:43] Of course he's himself in the world according to Jeff Goldblum on Disney plus, but this is the one that actually has him play himself for an entire feature length movie and, uh, have, have him react to just the escalating craziness of the world around him. And how much this production of the music band is like sucking the soul out of him by the end of the movie. Uh, and it's really terrific. So, uh, Jeff Goldblum in Pittsburgh, I'm throwing out as my number 10 favorite Goldblum performance of all time. Nice. Yes. Uh, I'll stand by, you know, for my thoughts maybe.

[01:24:12] Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Uh, what's your number nine Goldblum performance, Mike? Uh, my number nine Goldblum performance is from Earth Girls Are Easy. What is sex? Sex? You know, making love? Uh, a man and a woman like each other and they take their clothes off and... Okay. Well, no, no, no, no, no. We, we can't. No, because, I mean, me and Ted are, are, uh, well, I guess we're not, but I mean, uh,

[01:24:42] uh, we can't because, I mean, you're, you're an alien and I'm from the valley and, uh, we may not even be, you know, anatomically correct for each other. That could be a real problem. No problem. But, I mean, uh, no, no, no. I mean, it just wouldn't work. I mean, you're from out of town. The phone bills would just be hell. Shh. I just don't want you to think Earth Girls are easy.

[01:25:12] What is easy? This is easy. Uh, which is, I don't, you know, it's been a while. I haven't watched it since that one time, but I just remember the very cartoonish along with Jim Carrey and one of the Wayans brothers, I think, right? It's one of the Wayans brothers for sure. I'm going to have to double check on that. I forget which one. Um, I think it's Damon Wayans. It is Damon Wayans. Okay, good. Yes, yes. Uh, as these aliens that come to Earth and they crash in, uh, Genis Davis's pool and everybody

[01:25:42] is real hot and sexy and it's the 80s in California and it's fucked up how hot they all are. Um, and they're just all being goofy aliens, particularly in the first half before they go to the salon, uh, and get like made over into their human versions. And yeah, it's the, the movie where you could like see them falling in love. I think this is before the, no, wait, I'm trying to remember. Wait, hold on. This is after the fly before the fly. This is after the fly. This is after the fly. Their first movie together is trains, meaning six, 5,000. Yes, that's right. Uh, and then it's the fly and then it's earth girls are easy.

[01:26:10] And then I believe they're divorced and then they're divorced. Um, but yeah, just everybody's chemistry and, and Goldblum getting to be a alien, like cartoon version with the, like the blue fur and the weird hat, uh, and all that stuff. So yeah, earth girls are easy. I kind of wanted to just highlight it and put it, put it down here at the bottom of my favorite performances list. Yes. Also like half a musical too. Uh, there's like three musical numbers in there. Yeah. And they're all good. They're all fun. Or whatever, right? There's the dance fight. There's the, uh, sequence in like the beauty salon, uh, where Gina Davis getting the makeover

[01:26:40] and there's like her breakup song with her husband. And then there's the one song on the beach, like later in the movie, it just kind of randomly pops up. Uh, cause I'm a blonde, uh, which Julie Brown, I think is, uh, performing that one who was also, playing Gina Davis's best friend. And she has like that song. I like them big and stupid. That was like a novelty hit in the eighties. Right? Yes. Yes. That's right. Yeah. There was a, some fun stuff to be had. It is really like there, there are some movies that like really capture the spirit of their era. And I think earth girls are easy is one of the most late eighties movies of all time. A hundred percent.

[01:27:10] Yes. Uh, there you go. So earth girls are easy. And then there's a, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a movie involving aliens. Uh, but a much more recent one. This is a 2017 Thor Ragnarok, uh, in which Jeff Goldblum plays the grandmaster. And you know, this to me is like maybe the platonic ideal of like a modern Goldblum performance,

[01:27:37] you know, outside of like, you know, you add him resurrected or you're the mountains where he's really stretching as an, as an actor, you know, that kind of thing where he's really doing something else or like taking his persona and kind of take like flipping it a little bit for Ragnarok is like, this is Jeff Goldblum, but times 10, you know, with some blue face paint on exactly. Uh, and he is playing the grandmaster and is having just the time of his life in this movie. I think he fits in so well with the, uh, world that takeaway TT, uh, creates, uh, for this movie.

[01:28:07] You know, we've talked about, uh, we talked about Thor Ragnarok a lot on the podcast. Uh, when we reviewed it, we did like a whole two hour episode on it. And we talked about kind of the state of Marvel movies and the Marvel cinematic universe in general. Uh, and maybe I've been thinking about this because I just saw Dr. Strange and the multiverse of madness this past weekend, but the Marvel movies that tend to have like an actual authorial stamp on them are the ones that I tend to gravitate the most towards multiverse of madness is very like, it's a Marvel movie, but it is also very much a Sam Raimi movie.

[01:28:35] Uh, and I think Thor Ragnarok in the same way is very much also a Taika Waititi movie. Uh, and I look forward to him coming back for Thor love and thunder, uh, later this year as well. Uh, and so I, I think Goldblum just fits in with Waititi sensibilities really well, that kind of improvisational style and tone that he kind of has going for it. Uh, and the fact that he gets to play this sort of larger than life character in a very down to earth kind of way, uh, is really fun. And, you know, just the, uh, the idea, like he has so many great moments in the movie when

[01:29:03] he's like, you know, that moment where he's like, Oh, you know, time works differently on Sakaar, you know, on your planet, I might be like 80, but here, well, I mean, like has that weird face and all that kind of stuff. The, uh, the, it's my birthday sequence where he's like, he's doing the, it's my birthday. Uh, it's so, so good. And of course, uh, he expanded it in a few different things. The, uh, the team Thor, uh, team Daryl segment and, uh, you know, the what if episode that he pops up in, he's been the grandmaster a couple of times now, but yeah, the grandmaster

[01:29:31] and Thor Ragnarok, uh, it's just a really fun gulping performance. And so it's my number nine. Nice. Yes. Maybe stay tuned for fair enough. All right, Mike, what's your number eight, uh, Goldblum performance of all time? Uh, my number eight Goldblum performance is to bring back, uh, Pittsburgh. All right. Yeah. I was struck immediately when I saw her. I mean, she's very exciting and something happened in my system. I can't explain it.

[01:30:01] Where'd you meet her? She was starring in 42nd street. The tour is on 42nd street. What part did she play? She's the young, the young, thin, thin young girl, Peggy Sawyer. Catherine reefer. Yeah. She's like 19. No, no. She's 23. 23. Oh, that's a big difference. Here we go. Here we go. Yeah. I mean, just to sort of echo everything you said, it's, it's fun to see Goldblum play himself.

[01:30:31] Uh, and he does it a lot. So a surprising amount, uh, for someone as big as he is. You know, to be willing, like you said, to kind of lampoon his own persona and stuff. Uh, like, and I talked about the, the facade shattering in that one episode of, uh, world according to Jeff Goldblum when he's like, well, at least that's what I'm trying to affect. And you're like, nah, what? Um, and that's all what Pittsburgh is, right? You know, he's trying to be the kind of actor guy willing to, to be in anything as long

[01:30:57] as he's acting, uh, to support his girlfriend or wife or whatever it's got. I think it's like a green card plot or something weird like that, right? Or a work visa plot. Honestly, this would make a great double feature with the unbearable way to massive talent. Like a hundred percent. Some of it seems real. They actually did do this run of Music Man, I believe. In our research, Jeff Goldblum Day is real as confirmed by a world according to Jeff Goldblum. Yep. So yeah, this is, and it's, it's fun to see Goldblum just like full on play himself in a feature movie, right? He's always like chef Goldblum or whatever.

[01:31:26] Jeff Goldblum in run, Ronnie run for two minutes. Uh, but here he's kind of playing quote unquote the real version of him for this, for this movie. So yeah, Pittsburgh. Yeah. I always wondered why more movies don't do that. I feel like it's such a fun concept. Uh, you know, with the idea of like, uh, you know, an actor just playing themselves for the entire run of the movie. And I remember when, uh, when this is the end did it in 2013, where just all the actors were playing themselves. I remember thinking to myself, like, this is a great idea. Like this is such a novel concept, like skewers their personas and, you know, allows for a lot of very funny moments.

[01:31:55] Uh, like why don't more movies do this? And, uh, now we got one with Jeff Goldblum with Pittsburgh and now we have one with cage with unbearable weight. There it is. There you go. Absolutely. So whoever season three of the podcast is going to be about, we got to, I mean, that should that be a prerequisite? Like they have to have played themselves in the entirety of a feature length movie. Oh God. That might narrow it down. That might narrow it down by a lot. Yeah. Uh, all right. So your number eight is Pittsburgh.

[01:32:20] Uh, my number, uh, eight Jeff Goldblum performance, uh, is from 2013 in which he plays the character of Morgan in Le Weekend. Ha ha, Le Weekend. Le Weekend. Yes. Uh, which is a movie that, uh, you know, kind of snuck up on it a little bit. Uh, I think I mentioned it in my honorable mentions for discoveries. Uh, and a movie that, uh, we both really liked, I think. I mean, this is a movie, uh, directed by Roger Michel, uh, who also recently passed away. We talked about, uh, Joe McClendon Silver before Roger Michel also passed away recently.

[01:32:47] His, uh, new movie, like his posthumous release, uh, The Duke, uh, just started playing at the Roxy Theater, which is the Indian theater near me house in Missoula, Montana. And I haven't seen it yet, but it has Jim Broadbent in it, who's in this, uh, and Jim Broadbent and Lindsay Duncan are this, uh, British couple who are vacationing in Paris, uh, you know, kind of trying to rekindle some of their magic. Uh, you know, this is where they went for their honeymoon like 20 years ago and, uh, they're back and they kind of spend the entire movie on and off in love with each other and then also hating each other's guts, uh, and just back and forth the entire time.

[01:33:17] And then about half of the movie, they run into Jeff Goldblum, who is an old colleague of Jim Broadbent and he invites them out to a party and they go to Jeff Goldblum's house for a party. And that's like the back half of the movie. This movie like perfectly utilizes Jeff Goldblum as an actor. I think, you know, it's somebody, he's somebody who, uh, is there to spice things up a little bit and make things a little bit more interesting. Uh, because that first half happens and I was into the movie. I was actually really, uh, kind of trying to figure out what their relationship was even and like, do they still love each other or whatever it was.

[01:33:45] But then you get to the halfway point and you're sort of at a moment where you're like, okay, this, it's kind of doing the same thing over and over again. And now like what's new that's going to happen. And then Jeff Goldblum enters the movie just like a dynamo, uh, like just, and he's, you know, lifting his leg up in the air and, you know, he's talking to people and, you know, just doing like that fun Jeff Goldblum thing, uh, and invites them to the party. And he has these very kind of emotional moments with Jim Broadbent, especially where he kind of talks about his past and, uh, you know, leaving America to start a new family and, uh, Europe and all that kind of stuff. And he can't connect with his old son anymore.

[01:34:15] He like, his son is there, but he like barely talks to him. And so there's a deep sadness behind Goldblum's performance too, which I really appreciate. Uh, so yeah, Morgan in lay weekend I'm throwing out. There's my number eight, uh, golden performance of all time. Uh, stay tuned. It's going to be a lot of that, I guess, for these two lists. So far that you, we've, we've done three spots in the list and you've had three stay tuned. It's just, you're putting all the ones that I have higher at the bottom. Uh, interesting. Good, good.

[01:34:45] All right. So, uh, Mike, what's your number seven, uh, Goldman performance of all time? Uh, my number seven performances might be a little low for this movie, but also he's not, he's, I don't know, it's Nashville. He's in it a lot. He's doing, he's doing a lot, but with no dialogue, you know, he's a man on trike or whatever, tricycle motorcycle man. I forget what his actual character name is, but yeah, he's just this little like a hippie dude on a motorcycle with the big hat, with the tassels.

[01:35:12] Uh, and he's just kind of floating around through all the scenes. He's kind of like the one connective tissue throughout almost all of the movie. Um, that's in some capacity, you know, he rides by before or after a lot of scenes that we follow into the next scene. And I think he's great, especially that one scene, I think I like a diner, right? Where he's like doing a magic trick with the straw and all the salt and all that stuff. I don't really remember. Yeah. It's wild that that's Jeff Goldblum like in, in Nashville, in this movie with a thousand people in it, Robert Altman kind of like magnum opus type situation.

[01:35:42] And Jeff Goldblum is the guy with no dialogue in it. You know, it's kind of like in Annie Hall where Jeff Goldblum says, I forgot my mantra or whatever. He's got that one line where it's just like in this era and he just kind of pops up in career defining movies with one or two lines or no dialogue, which is very funny. It is kind of nuts. I mean, we talked about this before how Altman was kind of the one who discovered Jeff Goldblum, right? He saw, he saw Goldblum performing in a play that I believe was called a Le Grande de Coca Cola. Yes. Something like that. Yeah. Something along those lines.

[01:36:12] Uh, and decided to cast him in California split for that bit part. Uh, and while he was doing that, he was like, Hey, you know what? We are all like a bunch of us just hanging out in Nashville for the summer and shooting a movie together. Right. And that's kind of how they did it. It was like, they took over the entire town of Nashville for an entire summer and just had the ensemble cast like running wild around the town and doing all kinds of things. And like the movie had a script, but it was a pretty loose script. And a lot of it was improvised, which is kind of Altman style. Goldblum just kind of jumped into the big leagues with Altman and Nashville and California

[01:36:40] split, got cast in Death Wish around the same time. And that ended up being the first movie that, uh, that came out of his. Um, but yeah, throughout the seventies, I mean, bit parts in movies from Robert Altman, Woody Allen, Michael winner, uh, and then finally getting the, uh, the role in body snatchers, uh, directed by Philip Kaufman. Like that's a strong, strong run of early bit roles. Yeah. So there it is. My number seven Nashville. All right. I mean, that's a great pick. It didn't make my list and, uh, you know, I'm sort of reconsidering it now, but, uh, yeah, no, my number seven is, is it a movie that is much worse, uh, but a performance

[01:37:10] that I think is really terrific. And that is a, uh, a year ago, Bloom movie from 1992. It is shooting Elizabeth. And that's been my life, a lifetime of jokes and insults, ridiculing me in front of my friends and my colleagues about, uh, the way I drive, my poor sense of direction, my poor table manners, the way I dress, the way I shave, the way I shave, the way I shave.

[01:37:39] What the hell do you care about the way I shave?

[01:38:10] I shave? Nobody's watching. Nobody's watching. What the hell? Yes. Uh, in which Jeff Goldblum plays a character named Howard Pigeon. And, uh, shooting Elizabeth is a movie that is so obscure that it doesn't even have a link on its Wikipedia page. That's how you know it's obscure. Yes. Correct. Does not have a Wikipedia page. Uh, shooting Elizabeth, uh, has Jeff Goldblum as this guy who hates his wife. He's, uh, you know, stuck in a loveless marriage. It's a really interesting movie. I think because it's almost there. There's almost something really good there.

[01:38:38] I think the first half of this movie is surprisingly solid. Uh, it's a dark comedy in which Jeff Goldblum hates his wife and develops a plan to kill her. He like takes her on vacation and is going to kill her. But then he has a change of heart at the last minute when he accidentally sets up the gun in the hotel room. Uh, and the sequence when he does that is some of the best comic acting I've ever seen. It's so, so good. Uh, and you know, cause he's doing this whole monologue, uh, you know, where he's like, lay it into her.

[01:39:07] Like it's, it's this imaginary like rehearsal of like what he's about to do to her. Right. Uh, and he has this whole sequence where he's like laying it out there and being like, oh, you've made fun of me for years and years. And you've done this and there was this whole incident and blah, blah, blah. And all this kind of stuff. And then he accidentally shoots the gun and he's like, oh no, what was I going to do? And you know, he's just like ashamed of himself. And he's like trying to hide the evidence that there was a gun in the hotel in the first place. And then it turns out his wife leaves him anyway. Like she never comes up to the room.

[01:39:33] Uh, she leaves him and then he goes home and his friend that he told his whole plot to doesn't believe him that he didn't kill his wife. Right. And then now the police are after him because there's evidence that he may have like killed her. And she's like disappeared on the face of the earth. They don't know where she is. And so the back half of the movie is him trying to find his wife. Uh, and the back half ends up turning into a much more emotional thing than the movie probably should be because it turns out to be about like the trauma that he and his wife have had after their baby was born stillborn. Right. Right.

[01:40:04] That, that was the whole thing. And like it takes a very dark turn, uh, obviously. And, but that first half is just such a acerbic, cynical, uh, dark comedy, uh, that back half of it really doesn't fit with what the movie was before. So it feels like kind of two different movies strung together. I like the first one a lot more. Um, but I think Goldblum is really terrific, uh, throughout the movie and, uh, just kind of playing into that dark comedy aspect of it. Uh, he's really terrific.

[01:40:27] Yeah, that was, uh, a runner up for me because specifically that one scene where he's, you know, yelling at the empty chair and he shoots the gun by accident. But I didn't remember anything else about the movie. So I was like, maybe die. Uh, but that one scene is incredible. Absolutely. All right. So that's shooting Elizabeth for my Goldblum performances for number seven. Mike, what is your number six? My number six is to bring another one back and that is Le Weekend. Welcome here. Would you like some champagne? Please. Come on in, come on in.

[01:40:56] I was worried you guys weren't going to make it. I almost had a thrombo. Come on, come on. Uh, there's some great people in here and they're dying to meet you. I've been talking to you. Thank you, Stefan. I've been thinking about you all day. Huh? Gorgeous hell is this. Let me see. Let me see. Oh, go in. They're French. I'm sure their lives are awful too. Don't leave me a man. Isn't that what you want? There we are. I lost you. Come on in. I didn't see. Oh, look at that.

[01:41:26] Come on in. I'm going to introduce you. I didn't see that black lacy. I know. I wish I had my sketch pad. Yeah, I really loved this movie and, uh, this might've almost made my discoveries list kind of deal. But yeah, Gobloom is great in the back half of this movie when he, like you said, livens it up. It's kind of, we're kind of at like a really, like they're going to get divorced or something, right? I think it's kind of like the dinner right before Gobloom shows up is where that ends. Yeah. Kind of just like, what the hell is there's another hour of this? Like, what is this going to be?

[01:41:54] Uh, and then they go to this kind of goofy party at Gobloom's house and he's this, uh, you know, very academic character. Right. I think he's a professor. I think Broadbent's character is also a professor or teacher, right? He said like something racist, if I remember right. And he's like, I'm fired. He, uh, he commented on a black student's hair and, uh, you know, made, made like a comment about like, oh, if you had studied harder or if you weren't working on your hair as much or whatever, some, some kind of like shitty, yeah, some shitty thing. And, uh, you know, it's, his journey is really interesting in the movie too, where

[01:42:22] he like kind of reckons with the fact that like what he said was racist and shitty. Yeah. Um, and then that whole long conversation Broadbent and Goblin have about being like, you know, kind of revolutionary students in the sixties and like protesting Vietnam and all this stuff and kind of like being the, the people that are going to light the spark of the revolution and then sort of just falling in line and becoming teachers and professors and like, they don't instill that in their students now. And just kind of like, what is the point of being old?

[01:42:50] Um, sort of that whole conversation is, is amazing. And, um, yeah, we already talked about it a lot, uh, for late weekend, but yeah, great. I think Goblin's amazing in that, that kind of back half when he finally shows up. In that movie. So it's my number six performance. Nice. All right. So that is late weekend. Uh, Mike's number six, Jeff Goldblum performance of all time. And my number six is one that, uh, Mike mentioned in his discoveries list. And that is, uh, his character of Max Arloft in 1977's Between the Lines. Excuse me. I think I know you. Have I seen you here before?

[01:43:20] I don't think so. You look very familiar. No, I've been here a couple of times last year. Really? I've been, I come here all the time. Maybe I've seen you then. My name is Max. What is your name? Doug. Doug what? Henkel. Henkel, Max Arloft. Nice to meet you. Henkel? Yeah. Is that a German name? No, it's Dutch. Really? What do you mean, Max? Uh, I'll have a beer. What are you drinking? Uh, nothing. I got to get out. You sure? Yeah. Really? I got to go down the road. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. I don't believe this. I don't believe it.

[01:43:50] I do this every time. Why do I do this to myself? That's tough. Why didn't you go to the bank? It's past three, I think. Uh, you don't mind. Thank you. It's a buck and a quarter, Max. Keep the change. Listen, that's, uh, that. Uh, what is your name? I'm sorry. Doug. Doug what? Uh, Henkel. Do you read the main line? Yeah, I read it. You do? Yeah, I read the main line, but, uh, I was just gonna tell you. Do you read the rock column on the main line? Yeah, but, uh. Oh.

[01:44:23] Max Arlong. Doug Henkel. Nice. Uh, which, uh, like Mike mentioned, this is a great ensemble movie of, uh, just a bunch of, like, 20-ish something, 20-somethings, young people all working at, like, a rock and roll magazine, an alternative magazine, I think, based on, like, this Boston alternative magazine that kind of aired. Is it National Lampoon, right? Doesn't the guy cameo at the end? Yes, yeah. I think, uh, yeah, it is based in National Lampoon, but this is, like, more music-oriented than that is, for sure. Yeah, it is, like, kind of this corporate takeover of this really strong independent

[01:44:52] magazine that, uh, you know, just has this very small, loyal fan base, this group of readers that are attracted to it, and it's just the kind of thing that I latch onto really well, and I think Jeff Goldblum is really incredible in this movie. I mean, this, like we said before, is kind of his first major role. He's a standout in it, for sure. I think he's, like, so good in it. Uh, that sequence, like you mentioned before, where, like, one guy is smashing stuff, and Jeff Goldblum's just smashing stuff right back at him. Adam is so good. Uh, there's a sequence where he loses his, like, distinctive red jacket. Oh, yeah.

[01:45:20] That he's, like, trying to find all over the venue, uh, after the Southside Johnny and the Asbury Juke show is, uh, is going down, which, uh, that's a band that I discovered through this movie, and, uh, discovered that Mike is a huge fan of Southside Johnny, uh, which was a lot of fun. You've seen them live, like, multiple times, right? Yeah, yeah, a whole bunch of times, and I think I left this factoid out of the episode and told you about it afterwards, but, uh, La Bamba from, is that the Max Weinberg 7? Yes, uh, from Conan's show. From Conan's show is from the Asbury Jukes. Amazing. The trombone player or whatever from that band.

[01:45:49] That's incredible. I had no idea. So that's awesome as well. So, yeah, between the lines, uh, a really great, uh, you know, like I mentioned before, Earth Girls Are Easy is a great, like, encapsulation of the 80s. This feels like a really good encapsulation of the 70s. Like, it feels like a very good 70s-era movie. Yeah, it's got the hashtag vibes, but not the movie vibes. But not the movie vibes, of course. All right, so yeah, my number six performance is Max Arloft in Between the Lines. We're down to the top five now, Mike. What is your number five? My number five is, I don't think this is a TV movie. I don't really remember.

[01:46:19] But that is, uh, one of the Hollywood Ten. Okay, yes, I think it was a TV movie. I think it played at a festival and then it, like, premiered on TV. Yeah, and this was just a fascinating thing that Goldblum did a couple times where he plays, like, a real historical figure. All right, he's Ernie Corvax. Uh, he's the guy that raced for the Double Helix. Yep. Whatever his name is, I forget which one he is. Old Helix-y. Old Helix-y. Um, and this is about the, you know, Joe McCarthy, HUAC era where, uh, Goldblum is playing.

[01:46:47] I forget which director, but he's one of the guys that gets his name named during the investigations and is blacklisted. And he, uh, decides to go to, I think, Mexico? And he makes this movie about, like, this union town being exploited and the, like, kind of, like, workers rise up against their overlords. Right. Uh, and the kind of, like, underhanded stuff that they have to go through in order to get this movie made. Sneaking the film back across the border to have it developed and all this stuff. And it starts off in the first half like a really interesting kind of political thriller a little bit.

[01:47:16] Like, their phones are being tapped and J.A.G. or Hoover is around and all that stuff. Uh, and then the second half is this kind of, like, movie on movies kind of thing where they're making this behind the, you know, it's the behind-the-scenes story of how this guy, director, made this movie. Uh, so yeah. And I thought it was really good and it was something I never really knew about a whole lot. I feel like we don't really cover this era. We don't really cover the McCarthy era in this context a lot in, like, American history. Yeah. You know, I think we learn about it, I mean, you take film classes and stuff in college or high school or whatever, you learn about it as, like, a concept.

[01:47:45] Like, you understand. And I think, you know, my U.S. history class in high school did cover it in, like, the briefest of ways, you know. Right. You know, I mean, there's so much other stuff for it to cover and all that kind of thing. So, you really gotta go into, like, a film class if you want to learn more about that era. Exactly. But that is such an important part of kind of understanding Cold War paranoia in the 50s, too. This movie, I think, does a really good job of illustrating that and kind of illustrating kind of the craziness surrounding it and how artists were being targeted by the government and all that kind of stuff.

[01:48:14] And you see, like, that first half hour of the movie where they're actually doing the hearings. Right. And Jeff Goldblum's kind of testifying and Humphrey Bogart is there, or some guy playing Humphrey Bogart. Right. And, you know, when he goes in, he's like, oh, you know, I support the writers. I support, you know, everybody here who's, you know, trying to make art and stuff like that. And then when the trial's over and it's clear the tide has turned the other way, he, like, changes his tune almost immediately as he's talking to reporters and all that kind of stuff. Which is really fascinating. And the movie that he makes is Salt of the Earth, which, like we said, this is all based

[01:48:43] on actual history. He's playing Herbert Biberman, who mostly wrote movies, but directed that one. And that came out in 1951 and was not really released in the U.S. all that much. But it kind of gained acclaim overseas as a result of kind of its place in history, which is pretty fascinating. Yeah. So I wanted to highlight that performance there at my number five spot. Nice. I actually have that as an honorable mention. My number five Goldblum performance is one that you mentioned before, Mike, and that is as Dr. Wallace finds in The Mountain in 2018.

[01:49:12] Ah, interesting. In some instances, the best, the best that can be done for the family is to return the patient to them in an innocuous state.

[01:49:49] O-C-U-O-U-S. Which, like I said, a movie that left me kind of cold, I think very much deliberately. It is a very cold clinical movie. Yeah. But Goldblum is really terrific in it. I mean, he's great. You know, Wallace finds the character that is based on the actual guy who, like, it's not the actual guy who was the one who was known for lobotomies, but it's largely based

[01:50:16] on his work and his kind of life and the story surrounding him. But it is just him and Ty Sheridan going from hospital to hospital, performing lobotomies, diving into the darker aspects of American psyche in the 1950s. This is actually like a perfect flip from one of the Hollywood 10 into the mountain, which is kind of interesting. But yeah, I think Ty Sheridan is very good in this. And Jeff Goldblum is really just outstanding as this character who seemingly is unlike Goldblum in so many ways, you know.

[01:50:46] And I think for the most part, that's how he plays it. I mean, he plays this part very reserved for the most part, which is not something you usually associate with Jeff Goldblum. And then every once in a while, there's like this this hints of Goldblum that kind of pop out there whenever his character gets a little bit too drunk or he's out partying or he meets these women that he wants to hit on or whatever. A little bit of Goldblum comes out. There's a little bit of that like eccentricity and charisma that Goldblum has. And it's just just enough to make it seem like, oh, this guy is like there's it's an

[01:51:14] actual person behind all this evil that is happening here. And that almost makes the evil even scarier. And so, yeah, the mountain from 2018. And again, a movie that I didn't really love, but he is really terrific in it. Yeah, I think I think that I mean, I liked that movie. But then, yeah, by the time we finished that episode, I like really liked it. That movie is that movie is fascinating. And like you said, the way it kind of like sparks discussion and a lot of thought, you know, thought TM that movie is intense. Yeah, absolutely. All right. So that is the mountain. My number five Goldblum performance of all time.

[01:51:43] Mike, what's your number four? My number four performance for Jeff Goldblum is one you've already talked about, and that is Thor Ragnarok. In any case, you know, this this you call yourself Lord of Thunder, God of Thunder. I've never met this man in my life. He's my brother. Adopted. Is he any kind of a fighter? You take this thing out of my neck and I'll show you. I'll listen to that. He's threatening me. Hey, Spircles, here's the deal. You want to get back to place Asperger? The Grandmaster. The Grandmaster. Yeah.

[01:52:13] I think, like you said, the platonic ideal, the embodiment of the meme of Jeff Goldblum is what this is. You know, I can't say it's the birth of the meme, but maybe the pinnacle, whatever. I don't know. It's fascinating. This role and like within the context of Goldblum in pop culture. But also Goldblum in this movie is just great. He's very funny. And the fucking he melts that guy. Like they're officially pardoned from life. Hilarious. Amazing. And yeah. Yeah.

[01:52:42] The whole like prisoners with jobs thing, even though that's not his line. But yeah. Great. Great. Grandmaster. And I feel like this is kind of the the mental image that people have of Goldblum in the last five years, 10, whatever, since this came out. Yeah, it's definitely this and world according to Jeff Goldblum. Right. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, that's Thor Ragnarok. Yeah, definitely. Thor Ragnarok. The Grandmaster is Mike's number four. And then this might be controversial just because it's so low on the list.

[01:53:09] But my number four is Jeff Goldblum as Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park. Nice. Which, yeah, I think this is I mean, this is probably the most iconic Jeff Goldblum performance as at least as far as a certain generation goes, i.e. our generation. You know, I mean, Ian Malcolm has become the name that is synonymous with Jurassic Park as a series. Like, if you know one character from Jurassic Park, you know, Ian Malcolm, essentially.

[01:53:35] Like, if you could name one character from the series, I guarantee you 99 percent of people would not be able to tell you who Chris Pratt plays in Jurassic Park. You know who Chris Pratt plays in Jurassic World movies. We recently reviewed Fallen Kingdom, and it took me a second to remember that his character name was Owen. I would have never got there. But Ian Malcolm is, you know, the most iconic character throughout the entire series, so much so that he's the one that has been brought back the most. I mean, he led the Lost World, which is one of your favorite movies of all time.

[01:54:05] I assume it'll be on your top 10. We'll see what happens. We'll never know until we until we get there. Until we get there. He plays. Yeah, he leads the Lost World. He pops up in Fallen Kingdom. And of course, he's returning again in Jurassic World Dominion later this year, and this time with Sam Neill and Laura Dern, which is very exciting. But that first appearance as Ian Malcolm is just incredible. And it might be higher on the list if he were the actual lead of the movie. But but in fact, he is third or fourth most important character and really has no bearing on the plot of the movie.

[01:54:33] Like nothing like Ian Malcolm himself doesn't do anything in Jurassic Park. You know, he's mostly there to philosophize about the ethics of the park. Right. And he does that spectacularly, like unbelievable. I mean, so many of the most iconic Goldblum moments come from that first Jurassic Park movie. Life finds a way. You know, your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could. They didn't something they should. You know, if the Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the tourists don't eat the dinosaurs

[01:55:02] don't eat the tourists, whatever, you know, that what do they got in there? King Kong, you know, all that. All those great pile of shit. Yeah, you got everything. You know, half of the lines that are in our theme song for this podcast. Yeah. I mean, he's just incredible as Ian Malcolm. And, you know, I have to throw him in there on the list. I think number four is a good spot for it because there are a few other roles in the Goldblum canon that I think allow him to stretch a little bit more as an actor. But, you know, as far as we talk about the Grandmaster as the ideal for like a modern

[01:55:29] Goldblum performance goes, I think as far as a timeless Goldblum performance goes, Ian Malcolm is probably the one. Yes. Yes. Correct. I don't have anything more to say about Jurassic Park because maybe it'll come back. Yeah. I kind of thought it might. All right, Mike, what is your number three Goldblum performance of all time? This one's a little wonky for me because I don't know if I particularly enjoy this movie. And we've talked about it a couple of times already, so I won't harp on it too much.

[01:55:57] But that is Adam Resurrected. All right. Like I said, I think this is the most movie that he's in. This is the most acting TM, actor kind of thing that he's doing. And I think it's amazing. I think he's so good in it. And he's somehow able to balance that ridiculous accent that he's doing. But it doesn't feel dumb or bad. And then also like the vaudeville stage stuff that's going on in the 30s is incredible. And like that fits the Goldblum persona, I think, very well.

[01:56:25] But then also what about like deep psychodrama with Paul Schrader sensibilities? You know, Willem Dafoe appears as a burning bush before him and tries to talk him into shooting himself. It's wild. And Goldblum running around on all fours barking at a child who's also running around on all fours barking is nuts. Now I don't know if I grapple with this movie enough. I don't think I quite got there. I don't think I've unlocked this movie. I don't know if I'll try.

[01:56:51] I don't know if I'll try to go back and watch another time because it is very intense. Yeah. I mean, it would be a difficult one to rewatch, I think. Yeah. But Goldblum is incredible in it. So I put it here at number three performance wise. I think that's a great choice. And you might pop up again on my list a little bit down the line. Just dancing around each other the whole top ten. Pretty much. I mean, it seems like we're in agreement on a lot of these on a lot of these ones for sure.

[01:57:15] My number three, Goldblum Performance of All Time, is a movie that, you know, probably could have made my discoveries list and might pop up again later on this episode as well. It's a movie that joined the Criterion Collection just months after we debuted our episode about it. And that is his role as David Jason in Deep Cover from 1992. Forget this Judeo-Christian bullshit. The same people that taught us virtue are the very ones who have enslaved us, baby. I don't read anything. I got you, boy. I got you, boy. We've had fun.

[01:57:46] And I know your dick gets hard for money, power, and women. And it doesn't matter if you're a cop, so let's get in the van. Is this what's between us and destiny? Oh, God. Is this it? Is this what's standing between us and greatness? And Deep Cover, man.

[01:58:16] This is one of those ones that just kind of blew me away. I was not prepared for how good Deep Cover was going to be. Yeah, directed by Bill Duke, right? Yes, Bill Duke. Mostly known as a character actor. Of course, he was in Predator. Also in Mandy with Nicolas Cage for one really incredible scene. But he had a string of movies that he directed in the 80s and 90s. And Deep Cover was a pretty successful one. And this movie also kind of represented Goldblum's return to Hollywood filmmaking. After leaving for a few years to do all those Euro Goldblum movies. Yeah, yeah.

[01:58:45] And one of his few villainous turns? Yes, absolutely. He is the villain of the movie. Or at least he turns into the villain of the movie, for sure. But the movie is really about Lawrence Fishburne's character, who is an undercover cop who ends up kind of living on the streets and posing as a drug dealer to try to get into this operation that the DEA is trying to kind of take down. Goldblum is working with that operation. He is like a lawyer or something that they kind of teamed up with and he's helping them distribute and all that kind of stuff.

[01:59:12] But he strikes up a partnership with Lawrence Fishburne and the two of them get into some wild shenanigans together, to say the least. Yeah, I mean, they're really terrific together and they almost form like a semi friendship in the way that like undercover cops like in movies tend to with the people that they're working with. Right. Of course. Yeah, yeah. But it's so much about black experience and like living in these like really terrible neighborhoods and how much of that is created by these like rich white assholes who are

[01:59:41] creating this drug trade and the drug epidemic, the problems and stuff. And Jeff Goldblum is at the center of it. And Jeff Goldblum goes full on crazy in the last third of this movie. We compared him to Nicolas Cage in the episode that we were we talked about him because he is just going full on nuts. And it is really fun to watch him let loose like that. And then by the end of the movie, I mean, the kind of final confrontation between him and Fishburne is just so good.

[02:00:07] Yeah, I was just trying to remember if that scene in the limo was a Nicolas Cage scene or not. I was like superimposing Cage into that movie. It feels like it, right? Yeah. But it's it's Goldblum. He's great. Yeah, it's full on Goldblum. And yeah, he's great. And that is why Deep Cover is my number three for Golden performances. Excellent. My number two is one we've already talked about, and that's Dr. Ian Malcolm, of course, in Jurassic Park. Of course.

[02:00:32] Don't you see the danger, John, inherent in what you're doing here? Genetic power is the most awesome force the planet's ever seen, but you wield it like a kid that's found his dad's gun. It's hardly appropriate to start hurling generalizations. If I may. I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here. It didn't require any discipline to attain it. You know, you read what others had done, and you took the next step.

[02:00:58] You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it. You want to sell it. Well, I don't think you're giving us our due credit. Our scientists have done things which nobody's ever done before. Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could

[02:01:27] that they didn't stop to think if they should. Condors. Condors are on the verge of extinction. Oh, no. No, no. If I was to create a flock of condors on this island, you wouldn't have anything to say. No, hold on. This isn't some species that was obliterated by deforestation or the building of a dam. Dinosaurs had their shot, and nature selected them for extinction. I simply don't understand this Luddite attitude, especially from a scientist.

[02:01:56] I mean, how can we stand in the light of discovery and not act? Oh, what's so great about discovery? It's a violent, penetrative act that scars what it explores. What you call discovery, I call the rape of the natural world. Ditto to everything you said. You know, this is, I think, the indelible pop culture imprint of Jeff Goldblum. Yes. Him laying like Adam in that painting. Right.

[02:02:26] The shirt open and the leg out and all that stuff is the picture that will be printed everywhere when he dies. That's his image. That's genuinely true. Yeah, I 100% believe that. Yeah, so that's why it's by number two. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, well, I think there'll be more Jurassic Park talk on this podcast later, so we can move on from that one. Correct. My number two is one that you mentioned before, and that is Adam Stein in Adam Resurrected. You know you can't be in here, Adam. Come on.

[02:02:56] Come on, let's go. Bad dog. Bad dog. Bad dog. Okay, let me see your hand. I told her I'd be back, and it understood. Get back in there. Stench. Lie in his own goddamn faces. But the attendant, that flea-bitten gibbon, he did not. Adam stuck. From 2008.

[02:03:24] And based on that, I'm guessing we're going to have the same number one. Yeah. But quick on Adam Resurrected. I mean, yeah, like I said, Goldblum is just really incredible in it. Such a strange role for him to take on. It is probably the weirdest role of his entire career. When you kind of look at that on paper and like, how is anybody going to make this work on screen? Goldblum makes it work and does a really good job of it, where there is comedy for him to play because he is playing a comedian. He's like a vaudeville kind of guy in Germany.

[02:03:51] And then there is really dark, tragic drama that he also has to play, too. And the movie kind of turns on a dime. Like at a moment's notice, it can be doing something that's funny or it can be doing something that's really horrifying and something you can't ever unsee. It does that a lot. And so Adam Resurrected, I think he's really terrific in it. Again, I think this is a role that like should have gotten Goldblum an Oscar nomination in 2008. And, you know, he's never been nominated for acting. You know, it's never happened. He's been nominated once as a director for the short film Little Surprises, which we

[02:04:20] did cover on this podcast. Yes. Back in the day, which I don't think has made any lists so far and probably won't as the episode goes on. But it's a fine little short. It's not bad. Yeah, it certainly exists. Yeah. That one scene in Adam Resurrected when he's playing violin near the door to the gas chamber and his wife and daughter walk by. It's devastating. Yeah, absolutely brutal. And that is why Adam Stein is my number two Goldblum performance of all time.

[02:04:47] And I guess should we just say our number one's in unison, Mike? Because I'm pretty sure like this to me felt like the obvious number one Goldblum performance. It was the first thing I put on the list. Yeah, exactly. Okay. So I'm sure we just count it down. Let's count it down. Three, two, one. It's the fly. Yeah, it's the fly. What if it was something different? That would have been crazy. That would have been hilarious. If I said the fly and you said like spinning Boris or something. Lost World Jurassic Park. Play in the long game. You mad man.

[02:05:18] Have you ever heard of insect politics? Neither have I. Insects don't have politics. They're very brutal. No compassion. No compromise. We can't trust the insect.

[02:05:50] I'd like to become the first insect politician. You see, I'd like to. But I'm afraid. I don't know what you're trying to say. I'm saying.

[02:06:18] I'm saying I'm an insect who dreamt he was a man. I loved it. But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake. No, Seth. To this day. Yeah, the fly. Brundle. Whatever his first name is. Seth Brundle. Seth Brundle. Brundle fly. Incredible. Perfect.

[02:06:48] One of the kind of crazy instances where the remake trumps the original. Transforms whatever that was into half human, half fly. And one of the most tragic, beautiful, crazy performances of Goblin's career. It's nuts that he kind of. I don't want to say reached a pinnacle, so to speak, in a quality sense. It makes sense when you look at the overall arc that like from the fly, it'd be like leaving man time. Let's fucking go.

[02:07:16] And somehow none of those work. And I don't. It's wild. I don't know what happened. Yeah, it is so strange. I mean, that era is like that. I mentioned that as my favorite Goblin era, the 80s on the rise. Goblin era. Right. And, you know, he kind of breaks out in the big chill as an ensemble guy. He gets a lead role in Transylvania 65000. Not a big hit. Not really well liked. But he's good in it. And then he gets the fly. And, you know, he's also in Into the Night right before that, too, which I think is an OK hit as well. But and that's where he I believe that's where he meets David Cronenberg because David Cronenberg is in that movie. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[02:07:46] And then the fly comes out a year later. That ends up being Cronenberg's biggest hits because Cronenberg at that point, you know, had made a lot of like, you know, weird Canadian indie horror movies and then kind of started to break into American cinema, did the dead zone and did scanners and Videodrome. But the fly kind of represented a mainstream breakthrough for both Cronenberg and Goldblum and one that I don't think either of them ever really recaptured after after that. At least I mean, Goldblum did with Jurassic Park and stuff.

[02:08:14] It took a few years before he got there. And yeah, it just felt like the fly was such a monumental hit that kind of took everybody by surprise. And then for whatever reason, they could not recapture that magic afterwards. Yeah. And just Goldblum and Geena Davis, like actually being a couple and then having this movie be about them falling in love. And yeah, Goldblum just being the most charming version of himself. One word cheeseburger or whatever it is. Right.

[02:08:39] And then but then when he once he does the teleport thing and gets the fly and before he starts like deteriorating when he becomes like sort of like Terminator Goldblum. Yeah. Terminator Brundle where he's like going out looking for fights and like all this stuff and stalking the streets of L.A. is like actually scary. It's terrifying. Yeah. He has that menace in him. I mean, there are so many layers to what he has to do in this movie is the thing, because his character transforms not just from human to fly, but like personality wise changes kind of throughout the course of the movie.

[02:09:09] And so, I mean, it starts and he's, you know, a pretty awkward but kind of charming guy that is able to bring Geena Davis back to his house and like kind of show her the teleportation stuff and all that kind of stuff. Like he's not trying to hit on her. He just genuinely wants to show her what he's been working on. And then, you know, they kind of start to flirt a little bit and they start a romance and stuff and then becomes super confident Goldblum. And like right before he becomes like asshole Goldblum, because there's a period where he's like just super confident and super fit and he's doing, you know, flips all around the

[02:09:39] apartment and all that kind of stuff. Right. And then that's when he becomes asshole Goldblum and he's going around and he's picking fights and sleeping with other women and that kind of thing. And then he becomes like the tragic figure, like trying to figure out, desperately trying to figure out how to change course and figure things out. And Geena Davis is kind of right there the entire time and like trying to help him. And it's a really tragic love story at the center of it. And I think that's what makes the fly so compelling and what makes Goldblum's performance so good. One of the most intense Goldblum deaths also. Yeah.

[02:10:07] Just like despondently putting the shotgun against his head. God. Looking up at Geena Davis with those ugly fucking bug eyes. Yeah. Nuts. It's crazy. Absolutely. All right. So, yeah, Seth Brundle in the fly. Mike and I both chose it as the number one Goldblum performance of all time. Any honorable mentions you want to throw out there, Mike? I had a deep cover on here as well. And that's kind of really the only one that I crossed out. Okay. Kind of thought about.

[02:10:36] So, yeah, not a ton of. This was the hardest list for me to make. Interesting. To separate performance from favorite movie kind of thing was a little tough. I mean, there's obviously a lot of overlap. But, yeah, this I think was the hardest list for me. All right. Interesting. Fair enough. So, yeah, deep cover and an honorable mention from Mike. And this was a hard list for me, too, because, yeah, it is kind of one of those things where you kind of have to separate and really kind of look at what the performance is compared to what the movie is and all that kind of stuff. But some honorable mentions. This one has been brought up a lot. But the tall guy, a great time. Great performance.

[02:11:06] The favorite of the watch and the very big fish. I also threw in there one of the Hollywood 10, which you mentioned in your top 10 perfume, a movie that I really didn't like. But I thought Goldblum was very good in it. Perfume? Do you remember Perfume? I do remember Perfume. I thought I confused it with Powder for a hot second. And I was like, you shut your fucking mouth. But I realize what you're talking about. This is like the fashion industry one. Yes. Yeah. The fashion industry where it's Goldblum and Leslie Mann in a relationship together. And they're actually pretty good in it. And I think Goldblum is actually very good in it. The movie itself didn't really do much for me.

[02:11:35] But I think he's great in it. Yeah. Powder did not make my list. Thank God. Yeah. I mean, he's fine in Powder. He's solid enough in Powder, I guess. But I mean, I guess. Yeah. Powder is whatever. The only thing I remember about Powder is that I called the ending halfway through it. And I don't remember. And your friends were shocked. Yes. They were so mad at me. Yes. Literally shocked because it involves lightning. Correct. Yes. But yeah, that's all. That's really all I remember about Powder. Yeah. Perfume made my honorable mentions here. Fae Grimm also.

[02:12:04] I think he's very good in that. The Big Chill. I wanted to throw that one in there too. Fibes. Great early leading man performance from Goldblum. Spinning Boris, I think, is also a pretty underrated Goldblum performance too. I did think about that. You're right for performance. I thought about that. He's good in that. And then also Independence Day, which, you know, that's a movie that, you know, you could write it off as like, okay, it's a big dumb action movie, whatever. But I think Goldblum is like perfectly attuned to what that movie is trying to do. And he's really great in it. And then also The Great White Hype. Want to throw that one in there too.

[02:12:35] You just wanted to talk about Samuel L. Jackson. Sam Jackson's great in that movie too, where he's basically playing Don King. Yeah. Um, but, uh, Goldblum, I think has a really fun turn in that movie where he's the reporter who's trying to expose Samuel L. Jackson. He has one meeting with Samuel L. Jackson and then Samuel L. Jackson hires him and he completely flips and like abandons his old like crew and stuff like that. Uh, and I think that turn for Goldblum is really funny. I forgot that that that's the arc of his character in that movie. You're right. Um, there you go. So those are, uh, my honorable mentions for, uh, for Goldblum performances.

[02:13:05] And, uh, should we do another intermission, Mike, or should we move on straight into our top 10? Uh, we can move on. Okay. Let's do it. Uh, let's move on into our top 10 Goldblum movies of all time. We are finally here. This is it. The definitive lists. The top 10 Goldblum movies ever. After this, there will be no more Goldblum movies. No more. That's not true. Yeah. We're canceling the release of Jurassic World Dominion. Yes. The three movies he's got coming out this year. No more. Not happening. Sorry, Colin Trevorrow.

[02:13:35] Uh, unless you want to give us billions of dollars. This podcast holds a certain amount of weight in old Holly weird. Uh, okay. So we're going into our top 10 Goldblum movies of all time. So like we said, there will probably be some overlap between the performances here. Um, but just to really make the distinction, these are the top 10 movies. So Goldblum could be in these in any capacity. Uh, yeah, yeah. And I'm really putting that out there for my list specifically, because there's a few movies in here where he's like barely in them.

[02:14:01] Uh, but anyway, Mike, your number 10, Goldblum movie of all time. Uh, my number 10 Goldblum movie of all time is one we've talked about a bunch, even though we've, I think, talked about almost all of these, uh, except for one actually. Uh, but my number 10 one is Le Weekend. Le Weekend! Once the kids have gone, what's left? Beckett says, do we mean love when we say love? What else do we mean as stupid? What? Oh!

[02:14:31] Oh God, Nick! You can't not love and hate the same person. It really hurts. Usually within the space of five minutes in my experience. Le Weekend! Yeah, I, this movie kind of came out of nowhere, like we said a bunch of times, uh, and it blew my mind. I was shocked by how much I was engaged. I wasn't sure the first half. I mean, I was enjoying it, but where it starts, you're like, oh, am I just going to watch these two old people bicker the whole time? Like, I don't know, is that what this is going to be about?

[02:14:56] Uh, but the way that they, the relationship, uh, between Jim Broadbent and Lindsay Duncan, uh, the way that they're able to, their relationship shifts between like, uh, horror, like the most hateful, abusive, like destroy your personality shit they're saying to each other, but then also being in love, uh, the way that they kind of capture that is incredible and amazing to watch. And then, yeah, Goldblum showing up in the back half, like we talked about before is really revitalizes the movie.

[02:15:23] And, and then it ends, I feel like I remember it ending sort of a little bit like, do they just do this sometimes? Right. Cause they like kind of have that big monologue moment where they like ruin the dinner by saying like how, like professing their hate and love and tearing down everybody around them. Uh, and then they're like out on the balcony and they just kind of like smirk at each other, like do it again next late weekend. Um, yeah, solid. Uh, yeah. Is this like a, who's afraid of Virginia wolf kind of situation? Yeah. Yeah.

[02:15:50] Um, and then of course we can forget the, the dance scene at the end where they recreate band of outsiders, I think was the French new wave movie band of outsiders, which I was inspired to watch like the weekend after I watched late weekend as a result. Yeah. Yeah. And they do a little, a little shuffle dance thing at the, in the cafe and yeah, late weekend number 10. All right. That's, I mean, that's a great choice. I think it's very good. Like, like we said before, a movie that really snuck up on us and, uh, really wasn't, wasn't expecting to love it as much as we did. Uh, Roger Michelle joint, uh, director of the perfect morning glory.

[02:16:19] I mean, really a one, two, like right at the end there for us really was. I mean, you know, don't be shocked when morning glory is both of our number one. Yes. That's why we had to specify how much gold bloom has to be in it. Exactly. In two scenes of that movie. Yes. I think he has a little bit more than that. He's a couple. He pops up in like montages here and there. Yeah. True. True. True. And mine is one that I think popped up in your discoveries list, or maybe it was, it was your early bit parts.

[02:16:49] And my number 10 is next stop. Greenwich village. I was, I was thinking of, uh, auditioning for the studio one of these days. Strasburg is a genius. He'll kill you. He'll nail you if your work isn't specific. Have you seen Brando work? He's working on Hamlet right now, but he hasn't shown it. It's a great actor. Name is Clyde Baxter. Larry Lipinski. You're going to keep your name? Sure. Sure. Why not? It's too Jewish. No, it's just a difficult name.

[02:17:20] What about Edward G. Robinson? Morris Karnofsky. Cary Grant. My real name is Charlie Bolitnikoff. Who's going to remember that? Larry Lipinski. Good luck. See you later, Charlie. Clyde. My name is Clyde. Sorry. Clyde. Nice. Which is directed by Paul Mazursky from 1976. This was episode four of the podcast, going way back with this one.

[02:17:48] Goplin pops up for two scenes in this, and he's very good in the two scenes he's in, where he's just kind of like an actor at an audition with the main guy. But the actual story of the movie is, this is a movie that was made in 1976, takes place in 1953. Sort of a semi-autobiographical look at growing up as a 22-year-old guy in Brooklyn in the 50s. Paul Mazursky kind of drawing from his own life and his group of friends and stuff like that. And I've recently been just very drawn to those kinds of stories of directors nostalgically

[02:18:18] looking at the place and time that they grew up in for whatever reason. Yeah. It's good comfort food kind of stuff. You know, Tarantino with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood or Paul Thomas Anderson with Liquor's Pizza. Richard Linklater just did one with Apollo 10 and a Half on Netflix, which is also very good. And this is Paul Mazursky doing that, basically. I mean, this was a takes place in 53. It's about this guy named Larry Lipnitsky. He's a kid who has kind of been sheltered by his parents, has this very overbearing Jewish mother and finds this group of kids in Greenwich Village that he starts to hang out with this

[02:18:46] group of like eccentrics and artists and all that kind of stuff. And his girlfriend is played by Ellen Green of Little Shop of Horrors. And she is just incredible in this movie. There's this whole sequence where she gets pregnant and like they're kind of deciding what to do with the baby. And that whole sequence, I think, is just really powerful. And she's great in it. Christopher Walken pops up in this and he's very fun. You get Jeff Goldblum, of course. You get Bill Murray in the background of a shot, which is the first of the four feet Goldblum reunion there. Also, Vincent Chiavelli pops up in this, too.

[02:19:16] He's a guy at the party that they have. I mean, the rent party where they have in this movie where they're all hanging out. And then his mom crashed at the party and she ends up being like a hit at the party and all that kind of stuff is really fun. So, yeah, next up Greenwich Village, I found to be a really affecting coming of age movie and is my number 10 Goldblum movie that we've covered in this podcast. Yeah, yeah. I love that movie. It's great. And that's that party scene where they like do the subway, whatever game they're playing and they say, yeah, stop Greenwich Village is great. And yeah, yeah.

[02:19:44] Just one of those little gems that early run for Goldblum. Those like first five, six episodes are just like hit after hit after hit. And then St. Ives is in there for some reason. Which is OK. St. Ives is all right. It was no death wish, but it was all right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, those first few episodes, though, was really like, oh, man, is Goldblum only in good movies? Are we going to have such a great time at this? Yeah. And then, you know, eventually you get to the boss baby family business and, you know, it is what it is. Right. Exactly.

[02:20:12] There's only so many dreams of the bad monkey or whatever the fuck the English title of that movie was. Yes. No, that was it. I mean, El Sueno del Monoloco was the Spanish title. Yeah, correct. All right. Any other random Goldblum titles you want to throw out there? Framed. Framed. Sure. What was that one? Augie Rose. Augie Rose. Remember that one? I sort of almost put that somewhere. And then I was like, I don't think this was good, actually. That was I mean, there was good elements of it, but it was kind of icky. It was it was an icky movie, if I recall.

[02:20:41] Yes, correct. Correct. I forgot about that. That part. Yeah. Anyway, weird, weird movies. Yes, absolutely. Just a wild assortment of films that we've talked about over the last two years. Mike, what's your number nine Goldblum movie of all time? My number nine Goldblum movie of all time is The Right Stuff. Oh, here it is. I'll get it. Senator Johnson's right. This is Armageddon. The decisive battle between the forces of good and evil. We're engaged in a struggle for survival. There you go. Thank you.

[02:21:09] This footage was assembled from sources operating under deep cover at great risk. Very great. And we're very fortunate that this material did not perish with a couple of men. This is secret footage of the Russian Karabal rocket. And these are the German scientists that they captured after the war. Was it them? Was it their German scientists that got them up there first? No. No, it was not, Senator. Our Germans are better than their Germans.

[02:21:36] Which, you know, maybe arguably Goldblum's not in enough of, depending on who you're asking. No, I don't care about that part. But yeah, I thought this was great. The historical drama, like we said, they kind of talked about Goldblum is in a bunch of those. He's not playing one of the real life people, I don't think. I mean, he might be. I don't really know. But he's not one of the pilots. Right. Which is what this is all about, about Chuck Yeager, right? Trying to break the sound barrier. Yep.

[02:22:01] And the kind of early jet propulsion lab and NASA space race stuff. And yeah, Goldblum bursting into rooms and yelling information that everybody already know. Like, sit down, shut up. We already know. It's so much fun. Yes. By the way, it is the Mercury 7. I was right. You were right. Good job. Two hours later. Good job. The second of the Scott Glenn, four-peat Scott Glenn reunions, I think. Yep.

[02:22:28] I forget who the other people are, but it's like some pretty significant people. So you got Sam Shepard as Chuck Yeager. Right. There. You got Fred Ward as Gus Grissom. You got Dennis Quaid in here. You got Ed Harris, Scott Glenn, Lance Henriksen. Just a pretty incredible cast of characters right here. And Jeff Goldblum. 10 out of 10. And Jeff Goldblum. Plus Veronica Cartwright, who's also in Body Snatchers. Right. Yes. So yeah, great, great movie. And I was glad we got to watch it. So number nine. Nice. Oh, Levon Helm's in here too. Levon Helm. Oh, shit. That's right. Just playing Jack Ridley in this. Yeah. Number eight.

[02:23:00] Every extra name I throw in there gets another spot on the list. That's right. Yeah. No, The Right Stuff is a really terrific movie and one that really blew me away. It is my number 11 for my Goldblum movies. It like just missed the cut. It is high up my honorable mentions. I really love this movie and got to watch it for the first time because of this podcast. It was one that was on the list for a long time and finally got around to it. Now there's a Disney Plus show based on The Right Stuff, which I've heard is not very good. Oh, all right. Yeah.

[02:23:30] Did you not know there was a Disney Plus show? I think I mentioned it in the episode that they were making one. You might have. I don't remember. Yeah. No, it's a Disney Plus, but it's like part of their like National Geographic section, I think. Is it like a scripted like drama? It's a scripted drama. Yeah. It's actors and stuff. It's not a documentary. Oh, wow. Interesting. But it's like a 10 episode series, which sort of makes sense because there's a lot to cover. But this movie does it in like three plus hours and it's a long time, but it's a good sit. It's a good time. Yeah. Steely eyed missile men, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. The Right Stuff. It rules.

[02:24:00] And that's Mike's number nine Goldblum movie of all time. And my number nine is a movie that Mike mentioned in his Goldblum performances and did not make my performances list. But episode three of this podcast was Robert Altman's Nashville from 1975. I learned both sides of the record in half an hour. And we went back there and pranced in real fancy and told him that I'd learned them. And he said, well, let me hear this. So I sang him both sides of the record instead of just one. So he gave us 50 cents and we went across the street and had us a soda.

[02:24:29] Ever since then, I've been working. I don't, I think ever since then, I've been working and doing my, supporting myself. Anyway. Hey, hey, hey. Mom. I'm going to get you some lemonade. Oh, you're fine, darling. Fine. It's the microphone. Give me the mic. I ain't done. Oh, I know. I know. I ain't done. Go get some glass of water. Come on. Boys, help her off. All right? And yeah, Nashville is a movie that I had seen before we did this podcast and liked it the first time I saw it. I thought it was very good.

[02:24:55] And then watching it the second time, it like really unlocked the movie for me. And I think one of the things I appreciated about doing this podcast is it kind of unlocked Robert Altman for me, who is a filmmaker that, you know, I've always sort of liked from a distance, I guess. Like I had seen some of his movies before we did this podcast. I had seen Nashville before. I had seen MASH. I had seen Gosford Park and a couple of the other ones, I think at that point. And I just was not a big fan of like most of the stuff that I had seen.

[02:25:22] I think just whatever it was about the style, like it didn't really draw me in. Then we saw California Split for this podcast. And I loved it. I thought it was incredible. And then a week later, we watched Nashville. And it like clicked for me. Like I think because because we saw California Split and I kind of started to understand Robert Altman's style and kind of get into that groove. Nashville just became so much better. And I was able to appreciate kind of the grand canvas that this movie kind of creates with just this huge ensemble of characters.

[02:25:51] And it's a mostly plotless movie over the course of three hours. But there are like small subplots that do kind of advance as the three hours go along. And then when it ends, it kind of builds to this moment where it just feels like, oh, the entire movie was building to this scene right here. Like this this moment in which, you know, somebody gets shot on stage and it sort of reflects the JFK assassination is, I think, incredible.

[02:26:18] And and it just really like I don't really know what to say about other than like it really made it feel like the movie like felt whole, I guess. Like without that sequence, the movie maybe falls apart. But with it, it like becomes like one of the ultimate statements on life in the 70s in that era. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And this is a movie that doesn't didn't make my list, but I think because that was the first time I had watched it. So you spend at least I spend that two hours and 50 minutes or whatever up until that point kind of being like, this is cool. But like, what are we doing? You know?

[02:26:48] You know, and then that happens and it is so fucking earth shattering within the context of the movie. And as an audience member, you're just like, what the fuck? That it becomes like the only thing you sort of remember about the movie. But now I kind of I kind of do want to go back and rewatch that and see that build up, be able to track the things, you know, the the different plot lines. I kind of really remember, of course, Scott Glenn's plot because he's there at the end. He's like major to that part. So it's like, well, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is a lot to grapple with. That movie makes sense that it would be in.

[02:27:18] I'm surprised kind of surprised it's down here at the bottom for you. I know. Really? Very big fan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really like this movie. And it is number nine. And also, I mean, huge cast of characters. Like we said, Scott Glenn's in this. Barbara Harris. Shelley Duvall is in this. Lily Tomlin. Gwen Wells was also in between the lines and California Split. You got Elliot Gould popping up as himself in this movie, which is a delight. You got Ned Beatty in here, Karen Black, Keith Carradine, Geraldine Chaplin, just an unbelievable like murderer's row of people.

[02:27:47] So yeah, definitely worth watching Nashville. It's great. Yeah. No, no lies detected. All right. Moving on to number eight. Mike, what's your number eight Goldblum movie of all time? My number eight movie is The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension. Hey, there it is. Maybe that's what Buckaroo was talking about when he said. No, no, no, Reno. There are no ages and no places of birth. Uh, Grover's Mill. Grover's Mill, 1938. Why is that so familiar? They all have the same first name.

[02:28:17] John, John, John, John, John. Somebody's playing games here. This is statistically impossible. Uh, no, no, no. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Um, uh, November 1, October. Uh, 30 days have September, April, June, November. Short February was done. All the rest have 31, October 31st. Halloween. Oh, um, don't you get it? Orson Welles. You mean the guy from the old wine commercials? Halloween, 1938. Uh, War of the Worlds.

[02:28:47] That fake radio news broadcast that got everybody scared, thinking real live Martians. We're landing in Grover's Mill, New Jersey. But then it all just turned out to be a hoax. So? Well, so, maybe, uh, it wasn't a hoax. Or, I mean, maybe it isn't a hoax. Yeah, I think if you know me, you would know that this is a movie I would love.

[02:29:13] Um, this was one, you know, just a kind of goofy, screwball, sci-fi comedy action thing with Peter Weller and everybody we talked about before, John Lithgow, as like a D&D guy, you know, kind of, like getting the band together literally in this movie, actually. They're actually a band. Um, but like getting the band together to go on like a big grand adventure kind of stories, like just chef's kiss right in my wheelhouse. Um, and the way that that is played throughout this movie is a lot of fun. That big scene where they talk about Orson Welles, I don't really even remember.

[02:29:43] The War of the Worlds thing, right? Is that what they're talking about? Yeah, I think War of the Worlds was actually real, yes. Yeah, which is hilarious. Uh, that's, I think, Goldblum's big monologue in this movie, like his big scene. I think he's the one delivering all that. Yeah, and we bought the Blu-rays for it, and I watched all the special features. So I, I really love this movie, and it's, it's a real good time. Nice. Yeah, the, uh, the Adventures of Bucker Banzai did not make my list, but it's a movie that I really enjoyed. I think it is a really fun, shaggy sci-fi adventure that takes place in New Jersey. Yeah.

[02:30:12] You know, which is just one of the fun things about it. Like, it's this big, epic alien space adventure, but it's about like a bunch of dudes from New Jersey, and it all takes place in New Jersey. Yeah, yeah. Uh, and also, you know, who could forget its lasting legacy to, uh, inspire the end credits for that one? Life Aquatic. Life Aquatic, there we go. Yes. Uh, the Wes Anderson movie. Uh, because it's just, every movie should end with the entire cast marching in step in the LA river. Yeah. It's true. I mean, it's true.

[02:30:40] I mean, both the end credits for Bucker Banzai and Life Aquatic are just so awesome. Yeah. And they are both the same thing. It is, you know, the, the entire cast getting together, even characters who have died earlier in the movie. Uh, they're just like, you know, marching in step to whatever tune it is for Bucker Banzai. It's the main theme of the movie for Life Aquatic. I want to say it's Queen Bitch by David Bowie. It's definitely a Bowie song. It's definitely a Bowie song. I think it's Queen Bitch. Both awesome. I mean, just both incredible sequences and Life Aquatic, obviously lifting that from Bucker Banzai, uh, which is a lot of fun.

[02:31:09] I mean, this has been one of the most enduring cult classics of the 80s, uh, for that reason. It's just, it's, it's one of those things that like a few weirdos like latched onto as like, this is such a bizarre, crazy movie, you know, it has kind of like stood the test of time through that reason. I mean, uh, Peter Weller is just such a, an unlikely lead for this kind of thing, you know? I mean, other than Bucker Banzai, he's RoboCop, you know? Yeah. And it's RoboCop and Bucker Banzai. And for Peter Weller, that's like basically it. There's like not a lot of other Peter Weller roles out there, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

[02:31:39] He's, I know he's the lead of Naked Lunch, but I've never seen that. And I kind of only know that probably because I think there's a criterion of it or something. I believe that's true. I think I may have bought that Blu-ray actually a while back and I haven't got, I haven't gotten around to watching it yet. I gotta, I gotta consult my Excel spreadsheet to make sure I, to make sure I got it or not. But yeah, I mean, Peter Weller is also, he pops up in like Star Trek Into Darkness and that kind of thing. And he hosted like a show on the History Channel for a while. And I know that because he came to my high school once. What? Oh, you did tell this story. I believe I told this story on the Bucker Banzai episode,

[02:32:07] but he came to my high school once when I was the sound guy there. Cause I was the sound guy for the drama club. And he did an assembly at my high school. And so I did the sound for Peter Weller in my high school. I set up his microphone. I called it Robo Mike. It was a delight, but at that time. Did he love that? Yeah. He, he 100, I don't think I told him that it was called Robo Mike, but I called it Robo Mike. I like put it on the, the soundboard that it was Robo Mike. I was just really cool. He was a very cool guy. And, you know, he talked about his History Channel show for a little bit, but then just answer questions about RoboCop for the most part. But, uh,

[02:32:37] Buckaroo Banzai, I had not seen at the time. And, uh, I don't think anybody in my class had really seen it either. I mean, we were a bunch of 15 year olds, 15, 16 year olds in the year 2010 or whatever, you know, like, so it was just a different kind of situation, but, everybody was very excited about RoboCop being, being at the school for sure. And, uh, now that I've seen Buckaroo Banzai, I wish I had seen it then and got to ask him interesting Buckaroo Banzai questions. I bet he would have loved that. He would have loved it. Uh, in any case, the Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai across the eighth dimension, Mike's number eight movie, uh,

[02:33:07] of all time. For, starring Goldblum, I should say. I made a very different list than you. Starring Jeff Goldblum, we should say that. Uh, my number eight is a movie that I watched for the first time because of this podcast. And, uh, one that I just fell in love with. Uh, a movie that, uh, we were kind of blown away by how much fun this movie was. And that is, uh, directed by Lawrence Kasdan. It's 1985 Silverado. Hell yes. Uh, episode 22 of this podcast, uh,

[02:33:36] which man, all movies should just be like dudes riding on horses against a grand sweeping vista with a huge score that's kicking in the background. That is like 80% of this movie. Yeah. And it rules. The flight, the platonic ideal, which is a phrase we've said a lot this episode, but the platonic, the platonic ideal of cinema is that. It's awesome. I mean, this movie is incredible. Uh, it is, you know,

[02:34:05] I feel like when I was going into it, I feel like it had the reputation. I had heard people talk about it as kind of like, Oh, it's kind of like a stuffy, like, you know, eighties Western, you know, it's not one of the great ones or whatever. And then I watched it. It's like, what are you people talking about? This is awesome. I mean, a, it's, it's an incredible cast of four main characters. You got Kevin Klein, Scott Glenn back again, Kevin Costner and Danny Glover. This is like Kevin Costner star making role, um, which, uh, you know, Kevin Costner was supposed to be in the big chill, at least for one scene. He was the corpse. Uh, and he was, right.

[02:34:35] And he was going to be in a flashback of the movie that was ultimately cut. So you only see like Kevin Costner's hand in the big chill, uh, which Lawrence Cassidy and of course directed that. And then directed Silverado right after, uh, brought Jeff Goldblum along with him. And Goldblum is only in a little bit of this movie. I mean, he plays a character named slick. He's like a mercenary for the bad guy in the movie who the bad guy is Brian Dennehy as a sheriff Cobb. And, he's a delight. Rosanna Arquette is in this movie. John Cleese is in, uh, Silverado. Richard Jenkins pops up in Silverado.

[02:35:04] You got a lot of people popping up in this movie. Uh, and it is just a very fun, crazy Western that almost is like two movies in one. Cause like the first half of the movie is just about, I think breaking Kevin Costner out of jail. Uh, and, and then once they do that, it's like, Oh, and now a different movie starts. Yeah. You know, where they kind of go into this town of Silverado and they have to, uh, kind of deal with all the, uh, the, the evil sheriff over there and all that kind of stuff. Uh, it's a delight. Silverado rules. Uh, it's like, I, one of the most fun Westerns I've watched in a while.

[02:35:34] Uh, and, uh, it is my number eight pick for my golden movies. Excellent. Very good. Stay tuned for more of my thoughts on, Silverado. Fair enough. Uh, Uh, all right then, Mike, what's your number seven golden movie of all time? Uh, my number seven golden movie of all time is one we've talked about a lot already. Uh, and that is, uh, the tall guy. What are these? You wear them again. I leave you instantly. Oh, no, no, no. They're not brave. No, there's no bad. You're too big.

[02:36:04] Of course it is. I wake up every night, every day. I know they teach you what I need to take the blues away.

[02:36:43] Yeah, I wanted to get it up here. I think this movie was one, uh, you know, could have been a discovery top five for me. Uh, but it was one, yeah, never heard of and just was kind of shocked, blown away. I didn't really know what to expect a lot from that. Like your old go bloom era. Like we talked about, I was kind of ready for a lot. Even though dream of the bad monkey comes out, I think it's at the, toward the tail end of that era. Yes, I think so. Yeah. Right. But I was expecting a lot of things like that where it's like kind of dark and serious. And it's like weird and European, you know?

[02:37:14] Um, uh, and this is just like a bad cat romantic comedy where gold bloom does a cartwheel in front of the moon. Um, like delight. Amazing. Delightful. Uh, Emma Thompson is how could anybody not be in love with her? And yeah, is this the movie I think where gold bloom character has the roommate that's just always sleeping with new dudes. Yeah. Like always like somehow have like sage life advice for gold. Yes. While being naked around his house. Right. Yeah. Like the one guy, I think gold bloom sneezes on his dick. Uh, it's pretty funny.

[02:37:44] Um, cause he's got hay fever. Yeah. This movie was great. And I wanted to hear number seven, my all time favorite movie of all time ever with gold. Blue minute. Yes. This is fair enough. Uh, yeah, I was looking at the, uh, the Euro gold bloom movies. I guess we could say that the first year of gold movie was an 87. Uh, and that was beyond therapy. Uh, which was Robert Altman, uh, and Paris as New York, but then it's an American movie that Altman directed, but it's sort of filmed in Paris or is it filmed in New York? I think it's still in New York, but it takes place in Paris.

[02:38:14] I think it's the other way around. And then it pans up to the Eiffel tower at the end. It's very weird. Yeah. Oh yeah, you're right. Okay. Despite its New York city setting, the film was made in Paris where Robert Altman was living at the time. Uh, you are correct. Okay. So yeah, so it was made in Paris. And so we can count that as the first Euro gold blue movie, but I feel like the tall guy is the first real Euro gold blue movie. Yes. That makes sense. Beyond therapy is still an American film and the tall guy is very much a British movie, uh, for sure. Uh, and then it's, it's the tall guy. It's El Sueno de Monoloco. Uh, it is Mr. Frost, the favor, the watch,

[02:38:44] the very big fish framed is in there too. That's an HBO fathers and sons is an American movie, but kind of comes out of the, around the same time. That's an indie movie. And then you got shooting Elizabeth and that's, and that's the Euro gold bloom era, right? Right. And so, yeah. And I think the tall guy as a start to that is a really strong start to the Euro gold blue mirror. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of high hopes. I was like, Oh man, this is what we're going to be doing. Yeah. maybe, maybe not all, not all, not all hits, not all hits, but I think, you know, there's some fun stuff in there. I mean, you know, the favorite to watch the very big fish is good.

[02:39:12] Shooting Elizabeth is a good first half frame is pretty good. I liked framed. Yeah. What was the one after, uh, the dream of the mad monkey? Oh, uh, Mr. Frost, Mr. Frost replays the literal devil. Yes. How can we forget about that? How could we forget Mr. Frost? How did it not make our performances list? Uh, yeah. Cause we couldn't see the performance cause it was a VHS rip on YouTube. I forgot about that, but yeah, there you go. So your number seven, uh, I forget what, Oh, the tall guy is what we're talking about. The tall guy. Yes. That's how we got there. Yeah.

[02:39:45] Goldblum movie of all time is from 2014. This was episode 74 of the podcast directed by Wes Anderson. It is the grand Budapest hotel. Can I ask you a question? Good morning. Yes. Dimitri. Who are you working for? Beg your pardon? Who are you working for? They're supposed to be our lawyer. Well, in point of fact, I'm the executor of the estate in this particular situation. I represent the deceased. Oh yeah. Yeah.

[02:40:13] A provision for my fees was included in the, just wrap it up and don't make waves. Agree. I'm an attorney, Dimitri. I'm obligated to proceed according to the rule of law. Not agreed. This stinks. Did you just throw my cat out the window?

[02:40:43] Which I'm guessing might pop up on your list as well, because I know you got like you watched it like twice in the span of like three days or something like that right afterwards. But we'll see what happens. But the grand Budapest hotel, I think many would consider to be Wes Anderson's best film. That I think is a totally fair assessment. It is not my best Wes Anderson film, but it's close. It's, it's very high up there. And especially on this rewatch, I was kind of blown away by it again. Cause I hadn't seen it since like 2014 and, you know, watching it then I was like, oh yeah, this is very good. But you know, I'm team fantastic Mr. Fox Moonrise kingdom. Like, yeah,

[02:41:13] maybe this little bit has come down from that. And it's like, oh no, these, this is like as good or better than those movies. Even it's, it's just a really terrific movie that kind of encapsulates everything that is strong about Wes Anderson as a filmmaker. You know, it has, you know, the huge ensemble cast, the intricate detail, the period setting that has this quirky sensibility, but also this melancholy backdrop that makes a very strange mix that really, he is one of the very few people that can like attain that mix perfectly. Honestly, you know, like it's,

[02:41:42] it's something that kind of goes through all of his movies, like that weird sense of melancholy and quickness at the same time. Uh, and I think that's something that really draws me to them. Uh, and the grand Budapest hotel is one of those movies that, uh, just has the ability to make me laugh so hard and then completely devastate me just shortly afterwards. And, you know, you compare that to Adam resurrected, um, which I think is also a very good movie and I think has one of Goldman's best performances in it. Like, like we said, it's, we both put it in our top three performances, but that movie is a lot more like ramshackle. I guess there's a lot, it's, it's less put together than grand Budapest hotel, um,

[02:42:12] which feels so intricately devised in order to squeeze out every possible emotion out of you. And it really works in that regard. So the grand Budapest hotel is my number seven golden movie of all time, which Goldblum, he's a part of the ensemble. He is actually has a bigger role in the movie than I remembered him having, but he's still not the hugest part of it. And I think, you know, we mentioned, uh, you know, our, all of our favorite golden performances and no Wes Anderson movie made that list, which, you know, he made three movies with Anderson and he has a new one coming out. They are,

[02:42:41] I think among his best movies of the last several years, but it's just, it's weird to compare this, these performances with Goldblum and Anderson movies to other performances, you know, like the performances in Anderson movies that work so specifically for the world of Wes Anderson. It's like tough to really like make that call as far as like how, how good that is compared to other performances or whatever it is. And I think Goldman's very good in it, but he's also like 20th on the call sheet, you know, he's like, it's, it's tough to make that call. You know, it's, he's one working part of a big ensemble. Yeah. And yeah,

[02:43:10] I think that's the thing with, uh, not putting him in the performances or putting any Wes Anderson movies in the performance list because of that, where it's like, yeah, this works so well because he's got these couple scenes where he's amazing within the larger context of the Wes Anderson world. Like, right. Um, and yeah, I'm going to call some audibles and stuff because I somehow forgot about this movie, um, which doesn't make any sense. So stay tuned for more of my thoughts about grand Budapest hotel. Somehow. Interesting.

[02:43:40] Did you just like rearrange your entire list? Is that what just crossed out? Three movies move stuff out. I just, I mean, if you want, you can just, you can kind of piggyback onto mine now so you can keep your, whatever movies you had on the list already. Well, I was okay. Sure. I'll put it at my number six. That works. We can speak. We got, we got this. I can figure it out. Uh, I want you to talk about all the movies that you want to talk about. well, I want to talk about grand Budapest hotel more. Um, yeah, I,

[02:44:09] I don't know how I, this slipped my mind somehow, but yeah, this is, this is wild, wild to be. Um, definitely my favorite Wes Anderson movie, maybe because I didn't see fantastic Mr. Fox when it came out when I was a little bit younger. Um, you know, the whimsy and all that stuff, but which is in all of Anderson's movies. But I feel like that would have lent a little bit more nostalgia to that movie to me. Makes sense. for fantastic Mr. Fox. But yeah, grand Budapest, amazing, incredible. Uh, I love this movie. It won a bunch of, it didn't win best picture. I don't remember. No, it didn't, it didn't win best picture,

[02:44:39] but it was nominated. Uh, and was nominated for best director. I believe it won a few technical awards. I'll, I'll check on that real quick. Yeah. I think we did this last time and it was probably set design or whatever. And that's like your production design or whatever, which is like a gimme award. Like how could you not? Yeah, exactly. Like it's upsetting. The French dispatch wasn't nominated for anything this year. You know, it's one of those things where it's like, if Wes Anderson has a movie coming out, just like polish off the production design Oscar already, you know, let's see. It should already be given to him, uh, or whoever his production designer is for whatever movie. But, uh, yeah,

[02:45:09] no grand Budapest was nominated for several Oscars. I think like 10 here. Uh, yeah, beautiful. Wow. Perfect. All the shit that Wes Anderson fans love, you know? And yeah, I think, I think the, the kind of grand romance of it all, the, uh, to Grand Budapest is, is beautiful and amazing. And like you said, kind of feels like laboratory designed to make you feel all the things and the

[02:45:38] frame story within a frame story within a frame story structure. Um, and that one moment we highlighted in the episode with F. Marie Abraham, when he's like telling the story and you realize that he's been omitting character. Yeah. Saoirse Ronan's character because he doesn't want to go there, but then he kind of has to go there. Uh, and he like just takes a moment and he has that like one tear that is highlighted in this, in the beam of light on him. And then we go back into the story and you're just like fucking my heart, like amazing. And yeah,

[02:46:07] I think I watched this for the, for the episode and then watched it like two days later. And then I think maybe watched it again, like a couple of days later after that too, because I just was so enamored with this movie at the time. So yeah, Grand Budapest Hotel coming in hot at my, I guess number six. All right. It's suddenly, uh, entered the list at the last minute. Yeah. All right. That is Mike's number six, uh, Jeff Goldblum movie of all time. Uh, and also my number seven, I guess we're moving on into my number six now, uh, which is one that was covered in the performance, uh,

[02:46:36] in my performance list at least. Uh, and that is deep cover from 1992. Get out. Get out. Go. See you soon, baby. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have shrimp. Get the fuck out. Get the fuck out. See you in fucking hell. Uh,

[02:47:14] which is episode 34 of this podcast. Uh, and like we mentioned, directed by Bill Duke and, yeah, deep cover. It rules. I'm not sure what much more else there is to say about it than I haven't already said, but I mean, as a, as a film, as a movie, I think, uh, this is such a great crime thriller. It is such a great action movie at certain points. Lawrence Fishburne. I mean, this was the first Lawrence Fishburne movie, I believe it was either the first Lawrence Fishburne movie or the last Larry Fishburne movie. It was one of those two. I don't remember, but yeah, it was definitely like the one where he becomes Lawrence.

[02:47:43] I believe you're right. Um, this was, to be honest, this was the movie that, uh, I just crossed off. Oh, really? Yes. Yeah. But I did love this movie. So like, obviously it was in my top 10 and yeah, I, this was, it could have been a discovery for me too. Great performance. Goldblum just kind of eating it up as the like crooked lawyer, money launderer guy. And they rope in, um, the woman who runs the like gallery. There we go. To like launder all their money and all this.

[02:48:11] And just the kind of like debaucherous descent. The two of them go on, uh, to become like kind of king pings by the end. And then the big shootout and everything. And, uh, one of our gold bloom deaths, like we said, one of the few gold bloom villain roles. Great movie. And it's also so stylish, like so stylized. Uh, it's beautiful. Good stuff. Yeah, absolutely. And there was, I mean, this was 1992. Uh, and this was the early nineties. There was kind of a rise of hood films after boys in the hood came out with in 91 and there was juice and all that kind of stuff. And,

[02:48:41] this kind of fits in with, uh, that kind of wave of movies. Uh, and I think brings a really interesting perspective to it with having this undercover cop and doing the sting operation and, uh, really kind of seeing the streets from a different perspective than you do in those movies. Uh, also incredible soundtrack of the theme song of the movie done by Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg on his first ever song. Wow. Just wild, you know? Holy shit. Yeah. Just absolutely insane. Uh, and yeah, Bill Duke, I really wish there were more movies directed by Bill Duke. Uh,

[02:49:11] he has directed a few other things, including sister acts to, uh, throw that out there. Yeah. We mentioned that in the podcast before. Yeah, we did. Uh, yeah, he directed sister act too. Uh, there were a few other things that he directed too. There was, there's one T Oh, the killing floor is a movie that I've been meaning to watch for a while, uh, which was a made for TV movie that bill do directed about the Chicago race riots in 1919. And it's supposed to be incredible. Like I've, I've been hearing great things about it. It's one of those things I got to seek that one out, but, uh, I'm glad that I got to see deep cover to kind of introduce myself to the world of, uh,

[02:49:40] Bill Duke as a director, which, uh, I mean, he's been directing kind of on and off. He did one in 2017, uh, called created equal. Uh, so he's still been doing stuff here and there, but, uh, it's always good to just see Bill Duke doing stuff. Cause he's great. Yeah. He was in that, uh, Steven Soderbergh movie. No, no sudden move, no sudden move. Great. No sudden move. He's good in that. He's also in high flying bird, another Soderbergh movie that came out a couple of years ago, uh, and Mandy. And of course he was on commando and predator and all that kind of stuff. So, uh, yeah, Bill Duke. Great deep cover. Great. Uh, people should watch deep cover and, uh,

[02:50:09] it is a available on the criterion collection right now. I mean, they, they put out a blu-ray shortly after we, uh, or they announced the blu-ray shortly after we did the episode. And then the blu-ray came out a little bit after that. Uh, it might be on the criterion channel. I'm not sure, but there is a blu-ray about it now. Keep an eye out for the next, uh, flash sale or whatever. The Barnes and Noble set. I forget what's coming up next. That was, it was like one of the first things where, cause there was a sort of like mid level internet controversy, you know, in the great scheme of internet controversies, this was probably in the mid level of it, but there was like a little bit of a thing where like people pointed out that's like, Hey, criterion collection is like overwhelmingly white.

[02:50:39] Like as far as the filmmakers that are represented. And, you know, there are a few filmmakers of color in there. The occasional Spike Lee movie gets thrown in there. And I believe Bong Joon-ho had a couple of movies in there at that point too. But overwhelmingly it was a pretty white thing and a criterion to their credit kind of said, okay, well yeah, that's true. And they actively started highlighting other filmmakers of color. Uh, right after that, they were called out on it and they were like, okay, well, here we go. And deep cover was one of the first things that they announced. Well, well worth it. Check it out. So now that I'm rearray. So, okay, I gotta, where are we? We're at number five. There we go. Yeah. We are at number five.

[02:51:08] Now the whole list is out of order now. It's complete anarchy on the cats and dogs living together. No, that's a different movie, Mike. There it is. No, well, number five, uh, is, is one for me. You know, I've, I could have, I could have, but I, let me be gracious and put lost world Jurassic park at number five. This is,

[02:51:37] this is magnificent. Oh yeah. Ooh. Ah, that's how it always starts. But then later there's running and screaming. I knew exactly what you were going to say. As soon as you say it was one for me. Yes. Of course. This could have been number one. Easy with number one with a bullet, but no, number five, um, because I recognize number one over the original Jurassic. Imagine, imagine if I did that. That'd be psychotic. It'd be a psychotic opinion. It's psychotic to put it at number five.

[02:52:05] I wouldn't be allowed to podcast anymore. Um, they'd revoke my license. just hand me your badging your gun right now. I'm too deep undercover. No, yeah. I mean, lost world Jurassic park. Uh, it's the one where Jeff Goldblum's the lead. That's number two, Steven, Steven's, uh, I was going to say Soderbergh, Steven Spielberg. I would like to see a Soderbergh version of Jurassic park. That would be great. That would be amazing. Shout out an iPhone for some reason. paid for $10 million. Incredible. Yeah. Uh, the sequel, they go back, they got to go back. Julianne Moore, uh,

[02:52:35] Vince Vaughn, uh, that one guy that's British for that one line, which I talked about in the episode. Um, what was that line again, Mike? Uh, where he says, they're just protecting her baby. Um, where the stegosauruses are attacking Julianne Moore. Uh, and he doesn't have an accent for the rest of the movie. And yeah, I mean, it's great. I, the first PG 13 movie I saw in theaters. So, holds a special place in my heart. You know, maybe, maybe not so good. I don't know. He, I was really hoping when we watched it that you would sound like you would somehow come around on it. Well,

[02:53:04] I think I came around on it. I, I enjoyed it. Uh, when I watched it, which, you know, in the past I had not. So, you know, that's, that's coming around on it. I guess you're not wrong. You know, I, I think it's, I think the lost world of a, is a pretty, it's a better movie than people give it credit for. I think, you know, I think Goldblum is good in it, although very different from the Ian Malcolm that we've seen in the first Jurassic park. I mean, it's, it's sort of like functionally, like this is more of an action movie than the first Jurassic park is. Uh, and he's kind of fitting that role that sort of,

[02:53:33] he kind of got to do an independence day and he's doing again here. Um, but they kind of make it a character thing where like, well, he's sort of like experiencing a lot of PTSD from the first Jurassic park movie, which makes sense. Uh, I get it, but yeah, I think he's good in the movie. I think, you know, him and Julianne Moore and Vince Vaughn are a fun team. Pete Posseltwaite is in there. It's like the big game hunter for dinos and all that kind of stuff. Uh, and there are some really terrifically directed set pieces by Spielberg, which are cool. I mean, the whole sequence where, uh, I think it's the T-Rex, the two T-Rexes, the two T-Rexes like knocking into the, uh,

[02:54:02] the RV that's going off the cliff and stuff. Uh, really great. I mean, that's a really terrific suspenseful sequence. Uh, that is awesome. And then of course you get the T-Rex, uh, that is wandering through the streets of San Diego, uh, which is also pretty fun. And really the franchise wouldn't get back to that until fallen kingdom. Uh, so that's pretty cool. Yeah. It took them three of our movies and they're just keep trying to do that again. Um, yes, we'll see how much of that, uh, see how much of that is in dominion. It seems like that's all of dominion. Like, right. Like, I mean, that's basically at the end of fallen kingdom,

[02:54:30] all the dinosaurs get let loose in the world with the trailers for dominion. Have you seen any of the trailers for dominion out of curiosity? Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I just, I saw Dr. Strange. Okay. Fair enough. So they show you all the big trailers, but, uh, yeah, I mean, dominion shows like scenes where there are people in Italy and like pterodactyls are pulling them off of motorcycles and stuff like that. And I was like, okay, I'm in this looks good. Yeah. Yeah. So that, you know, Spielberg got to do his King Kong at the end of this movie. Uh, maybe it feels really weird from like the last 20 minutes are just so different, uh,

[02:55:00] from the other hour and a half or whatever it is. But yeah, I love this movie has a special place for me forever. So here it is. Number five, Jeff Goldblum movie of all time. There you go. The lost world, Jurassic park, Mike's number five. And my number five is a movie that was actually Mike's number one discovery of all time. Uh, and that is California splits from 1974. Percentage player doesn't take many chances, right? Uh, no flair guy. I say it's part of a two or three men combination. No sweat, but you find him after the fourth card,

[02:55:30] you're not in the end unless he got the nuts, right? Oh, cowboy. I don't know. Lyndon Johnson's definitely is here. I figured he owns a piece of the town. Haberdasher. He sells cowboy hat. That's it. It's his rhythm. Absolutely right. But with your natural ability and your strength, you don't have to let him have much. Keep talking. Keep talking. I was a kid. Seen a Cincinnati kid too many times, right? He's been trying to beat this game before he's born, right? I got him all to specs. It's a doctor, right? It's a doctor.

[02:55:59] He's been here playing this game forever, right? He'd rather lose a patient than a hand. Very good. Not, not, not much of a problem. You don't want to get involved too much. Red coat. Red coat. Well, my call is small time booster, right? That's your chair, right? One time buy-in. He used to be a cha-cha dancer. I don't know. All right. I don't know, but that guy is falling out and that's where you're going to be sitting. Empty chair. Episode two of this podcast, way back in the day, a Robert Altman picture, Jeff Goldblum's in it for about 10 seconds. Yep. Uh,

[02:56:28] which is why Mike disqualified it from his own list, but I hold no such qualms. Uh, for me, any movie that we've covered on the podcast is eligible for this list. And, California split is one of my favorite, like just finds, uh, of the podcast. Like if, if I wasn't putting on this list, it probably would have been my number one discovery. Uh, you know, uh, because it is just such an incredible movie. It's funny. It's intense. It's also kind of deeply sad, uh, in the way that these characters are completely addicted to gambling. And at one point,

[02:56:58] I think one of them finally gets to walk away at the end, but one of them is still stuck in there, right? Elliot Gould is still kind of stuck in that gambling circle. Yeah, it is really, I mean, their, their friendship that they kind of, that blossoms over the course of the movie is so great. And there's just, there's just so many great moments and sequences throughout the movie. And you mentioned a few of them already. The, uh, the scene where they're getting drunk in the bar. There's the scene where Elliot Gould shows up into some raro and he's like, okay, I'll give you three questions of where I've been. And the first two don't count or whatever. Like, uh, it's terrific. It's so good. And, uh, you know, it actually like makes it very intense.

[02:57:27] All the gambling stuff as it kind of gets closer towards the end of the movie where they really desperately need the money. Uh, yeah. California split, uh, my number five, uh, Gulp movie of all time. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I think like, honestly, this could have been like one or two for me on all time overall list, but which is, but because Gulp's not in it a lot, I was put it at number one discovery. Um, and that's very, definitely, definitely my, like one of my favorite things we've watched and amazing. And I was so devastated that, uh, indicator Blu-rays, uh, confirmed that they are not putting this out. There's,

[02:57:57] I guess some weird rights stuff. Cause they had hinted, uh, like years ago, apparently that like they were working on this. Uh, and in one of their like newsletters within this year, within 2022, they put out like a, it included a statement that like, we know we had teased this at some point, but yeah, due to complicated issues or complications or whatever that like that has fallen through. So who knows if we'll ever get like a nice Blu-ray restoration of this. Uh, I don't remember how we watched it, but we did. Uh, we did. I mean, obviously we did. I think, uh,

[02:58:26] I want to say it became available through Amazon, like to rent or something at some point. Uh, and it was like a big deal when it was like, I feel like, but that might've been after we did the episode. We may have had like, you know, find an illegal way to watch it because it just wasn't available. Yeah. I don't really remember. It's been, it popped, has popped up on the criterion channel a couple of times. Like they did like a gambling movie collection. Uh, and it was on there and that, I remember that being like a pretty big deal. Uh, but yeah, California split man. What a great movie. Yeah, absolutely. And it's my number five,

[02:58:56] a golden movie of all time, despite the fact that the golden is barely in it. Uh, but Mike, what is your number four golden movie of all time? Uh, my number four golden movie of all time is one you talked about already. Uh, and it's the, like I said, the platonic ideal of cinema. Why did we invent moving pictures? If people can't ride across the landscape on horseback to swelling, orchestral music. And that is Silverado. You're wearing my hat. What else you got? That's mine. Mister.

[02:59:26] I don't know what you're talking about. Your fingers aren't tickling. My ivory handled cold, real slow. And let me see. You might live through this night.

[02:59:51] What an absolute blast. The first half of this movie, like you said, is Scott Glenn comes across Kevin Klein, half dead in the desert and like gives him water and drags him with him. And they kind of become a little bit of buds.

[03:00:17] And then they get to whatever town and they need to break Kevin Costner out of jail. Who's Scott Glenn's younger brother. And then just shenanigans ensue. Pick up Danny Glover as a friend along the way. Cause they're nice to him. Um, and he's got a whole plot line. And then, uh, just fucking, what if we just did shootouts for the last hour? Basically riding across the desert back and forth and amazing grand romance with a capital R with Kevin Costner and Patricia Arquette. And then Scott Glenn and Patricia Arquette. Um, and it's great.

[03:00:47] Wonderful movie. Well, I just watched this again, like within the last month or so. Oh, did you? Yeah. Just cause I was like, what if Westerns, you know? And I was like, what is, what is best Western? Silverado. And yeah, a ton of fun. My, uh, number, number four movie got bumped up a lot because of grand Brutal past. Do some shuffling. So it's landed here at number four and I'm, I'm satisfied with it this high. There you go. Silverado. It rules and, people should watch it. Definitely one of the other great finds in this podcast. Uh, my number four is a movie that I had seen before we did this podcast, uh,

[03:01:16] and liked it when I first saw it. And then when I saw it again, it really just like hit me, uh, emotionally. And it is a Wes Anderson picture. My number four is the life aquatic with Steve Zizou. Your engine blew up and all your fuel's been stolen. Is that correct? Uh-huh. I certainly know how you feel. Some crooked fuckers just stripped my sea lab, you know, probably the same dudes. I can tow you as far as port of the trois.

[03:01:44] I'll need your signature on that invoice first. It accounts for the expenses of the rescue operation, as well as my time and that of my crew. This is more than the budget of my whole project. It's an estimate. Uh, what's your dog's name? Cody. Be still Cody. Wow. Uh, from 2004. And this is episode 61 of the podcast,

[03:02:12] a movie that at the time it came out, it was seen as like, oh man, Wes Anderson finally missed. Yeah. His career's dead. Basically. Like it was, you know, his biggest budget ever. And, you know, it was his attempt at like making a more mainstream film, but it's a Wes Anderson picture through and through. And, uh, audiences kind of rejected it. Critics really didn't care for it at the time either. Um, since then it has kind of developed more of a cult following because I think of how sort of underrated it has become. And the life aquatic with Steve Zizio became one of my favorite Wes Anderson

[03:02:41] movies after we watched it for this podcast. Uh, you know, it is like, it might be my number two behind finesse, Mr. Fox, uh, which Mr. Fox is, it might even be like, I think the best one, but Mr. Fox holds that nostalgic place in my heart. It was my first Wes Anderson movie, you know, and that kind of thing. But, uh, Steve Zizio stars Bill Murray and a huge ensemble cast of characters like most Wes Anderson movies. Uh, and you know, he's just this oceanographic explorer modeled after Jacques Cousteau. And he is just the biggest piece of shit in the world,

[03:03:11] but also the saddest. And he discovers that, uh, Owen Wilson is actually his long lost son and the, or there's a strange son. And, uh, they start to form like a reconnection. He brings Owen Wilson on board his ship. It, while all this going on, he's trying to find the monster that killed his partner. Uh, and he plans to kill it legally. Can't do that. So he just wants to like rough it up a little. And, you know, that's his entire purpose for being at the moment. And, uh, the movie is really about Bill Murray's transformation from being a completely shitty person to being a slightly less shitty person.

[03:03:41] Yes. And I think that's, what's so kind of beautiful about it. It is about this character really trying to grapple with the meaning of his existence and trying to figure out like what his place is in the world. Uh, now that the world has kind of moved past him, uh, you know, his partner is dead. Uh, you know, he has this son now that kind of comes into his life. And when he finally accepts him as his son, his son dies too, you know, because of him. Oh my God. and it is very, very funny,

[03:04:11] but it is also deeply, deeply sad. It is that kind of combination that, uh, Wes Anderson does so well. And, uh, this movie I think really, really works for me. So it is my number four, uh, Goldblum movie of all time. And Goldblum's great in it. I mean, he's, uh, you know, 10th most important character in the movie or whatever, but he is, uh, the rival to Bill Murray's character who ends up kind of joining him on the team later, uh, after Bill Murray rescues him. Yeah. I mean, what a, uh, absolutely hilarious movie of that scene. I forget who they're like burying at sea and they're like making this big deal about it.

[03:04:40] And then I think Goldblum ship shows up and he's like, Oh shit, throw them off the other side. It's so funny. Go them rescuing Goldblum. Uh, and he's like, Oh, you've come to get me. And then just the big gunfight erupts and Goldblum gets shot. Uh, and it's the like kind of classic Anderson, like sudden burst of, the violence that happens and it's like a whole big thing. Surprisingly bloody. Um, yeah, great movie. Had a lot of fun with it. And, and I was kind of shocked at how much I enjoyed it a little. Actually. I think, I think I had seen it once or twice before. I don't really remember, but yeah, good times. Yeah.

[03:05:10] Great movie. Yeah. Great movie. And also quick highlight of a Bud courts character who plays the bond company stooge, who is very uptight throughout the movie. Uh, and then at the end when Goldblum asks him, Hey, where'd you get all this stuff? He just like takes a drag off a cigarette and it's like, we fucking stole it, man. Yes. So good. Amazing. The scene when they like that whole set piece where they're like robbing Goldblum's lab is very funny. Um, absolutely. Good stuff. All right.

[03:05:39] So that is my number four Goldblum movie of all time. The life aquatic with Steve's as you, we are now down to the final three Goldblum movies. I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of overlap between our final threes, but they may not be in the same spots. I don't know. I think that's the, the, the question of the day is what order do we put these three movies in? So we will see what happens, but Mike, what is your number three Goldblum movie of all time? This might be spicy, but my number three is the fly.

[03:06:08] My number three is also the fly. Oh, interesting. Wow. You know, I just don't think I've ever given me a chance to be me, but of course, interestingly, at the exact same moment that I achieved, what will probably prove to be my life's work. That's the moment when I started being the real me finally. So, listen, and not to wax messianic, but it may be true that the synchronicity of those two events might blur the resultant individual effect of either individually, but it is nevertheless also certainly true. I will say now,

[03:06:38] however, subjectively, that human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown, and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man a king. From the moment I walked out of the pot, I felt like a million bucks. You know, I think I am going to have a cannoli after all. Waiter, I mean, what an accomplishment, but what have I really done? All I've done is say to the world, let's go, move, catch me if you can. Waiter, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it in the performances, the best performance for Gobloom,

[03:07:08] for sure. Yes, absolutely his best work as an actor. Yeah, but like leading role, substantial, the most work he's doing. David Cronenberg, gross, you know, that's all I have to say. In a good way, in a good way. Yeah, the one scene where Gina Davis gives birth to a larva. Oh man. Will never leave my brain, and I've got a long life to live still. Yes. I hope. And horrific, and I can't believe that's like the premise of the second one. It was just like,

[03:07:38] what if that was real? Yes, which, you know, I bought the, the fly collection from Scream Factory a while back. Wow. Which has the original three fly movies from the fifties, and then also has the fly and the fly too. I have not watched the fly too yet. I'm really curious to, you know? Yes. I'm very interested to hear what you think about that. I've never seen it either, but yeah, the fly, we are, we talked about it a lot already, but yeah, this could be, I think number one for a lot of people and maybe it should be quote unquote in big air quotes on should, but here it is number three for both of us. Yeah. I mean, I think this is a, this is an incredible movie. I mean,

[03:08:08] I really, these, this top three is like pretty interchangeable. I think. I'll tell you that one of them is a pretty huge nostalgic favorite. You can probably guess which one, but I think the fly is a good number three. I mean, I have to agree because I also picked it as number three. But yeah, I think it's an incredible horror movie. I think Goldblum's incredible in it. Uh, and it is just that in the middle of this insane run for David Cronenberg in the eighties, where, uh, I mean, you look through David Cronenberg's filmography, uh, and you know,

[03:08:37] you see those tweets every once in a while where it's like, you know, name him better three movie run or whatever from this director and all that kind of stuff. And you look at Cronenberg's eighties, uh, really let's go from 79. You got the brood scanners, videodrome, the dead zone, the fly and dead ringers. And that's from 79 through 88. That's five master all time. Right. That's insane. That's absolutely nuts. And I think the only one that like really rivals that is maybe John Carpenter, who is like in that exact same span of time released like twice as many masterpieces.

[03:09:07] Like he really, he did like 10 movies in a row that were all great. Yeah. David Cronenberg's eighties is just kind of unstoppable. And, uh, the fly I think is probably the pinnacle of them all, maybe videodrome, but like I would probably lean more towards the fly. That one hits me more at an emotional level. Creature effects are incredible. Uh, Cronenberg's direction is great. I'm very excited that Cronenberg's coming back to body, horror this year. Uh, you know, you know, we keep talking about like the return of Jurassic world as far as golden stuff goes and golden was not in the new Cronenberg movie, but like Cronenberg's coming back to body horror. That's,

[03:09:37] that's a big deal. That is a very big deal. I mean, Hey, he hasn't directed a movie in like eight years and it hasn't directed like a horror movie. And like 20, like it's been, it's been a really long time. I feel like, I think, I think Cronenberg starred in a shutter original show. Did he really? Yeah. Or I don't know if it's a shutter original, but I think it's on shutter, like some slasher show. It's called slasher. I think, I don't know. He was in a season of it. I remember people freaking out about it. Uh, but yeah, Cronenberg's just like kind of been vibing. Good for him. You know,

[03:10:07] but now he's, he's back. Maybe he is back with crimes of the future, which is actually a remake of one of his earliest films, uh, from the seventies. Really curious about that. I mean, there are a few directors who've done that before, like Hitchcock did the man who knew too much twice and that kind of thing. But, uh, Cronenberg doing crimes of the future again, which I've not seen the original. I might want to track that down before the new one comes out, but, uh, yeah, definitely, uh, want to check that out. But yeah, the fly, I think a great number three pick. So there we go. We both picked that one for number three, Mike, what's your number two global movie of all time? Uh,

[03:10:34] my number two go blue movie of all time is arguably, you know, the fly might be one of the best movies, horror movies of the eighties and invasion of the body snatchers might be one of the best horror movies of the seventies. Mike, my number two was also invasion of the body snatchers. Incredible. We did it. We did all three in the same order. Yes, we did. Thank God. I'm finally here. These people are driving me nuts. Are we going to have dinner later? No, no, I can't. Do you know this? Let's tell phone right around the corner. Elizabeth Briscoll, Jack. Oh, this is the Elizabeth.

[03:11:04] The book is awful. Kibner's book is awful. His ideas are garbage. Kibner's ideas are pure garbage. How can you say that about a man like Kibner? I'm not saying it about a man like Kibner. I'm saying it about Kibner. He dashes one of these things off every six months. It takes me six months to write one line sometimes. What? Because I pick each word individually. That's why. What's so hot about that? I wasn't even talking to you, was I? Yes. What's so hot about that? What's so hot about that?

[03:11:30] You must have a report on it because there was a motorcycle officer there and there was an ambulance on the way. I don't know where I am. They follow me. They don't understand what I'm saying. Well, ignore them. You don't have to prove yourself to anybody. Well, that's easy for you to say. They don't jump all over you. Of course I saw it. No, the man was running down the street. It's romantic. He was being chased by people. He landed on my car. He went off my car and then he was hit by the other guy. And they all eat it up. Secondly, I am talking to the police. Yeah, this was actually a first time watch for me for the pod. I had never seen this one before. I had seen the 50s one, you know, in a film class or whatever.

[03:12:00] Right. And yeah, I was not prepared for how like actually horrific it is. I guess that's, you know, the difference in horror movies from the 50s to the 70s, you know, whatever. There's a whole course you could talk about that. Right. But yeah, to see it be this kind of like dark, weird, psycho-sexual, you know, horror movie and that whole scene in the bookshop with Leonard Nimoy, like giving his like reading

[03:12:27] or whatever's going on and the woman like coming up to him and pleading to Nimoy be like, my husband feels like a different person and just like him just completely brushing her off and just like that feeling of like, please somebody listen to me. Desperation that kind of goes throughout most of those movies. Yep. Donald Sutherland. What a fucking sex icon. I can't believe all the people that we had, all the leading men that we just let go away. Yes. You're Elliot Goulds. You're Donald Sutherlands. You're Walter Matthaus.

[03:12:57] Exactly. Yes. You're Peter Fox. Right? Like amazing. And yeah, this movie was great and I'm glad we got to watch it. And of course, now I know what that picture of Donald Sutherland is from. It's pointing and screaming. I never knew it was this movie. And that scream that like that literal sound effect is along with the one. The last thing I'll think of will be Gina Davis giving birth to a larva and hearing that scream will just be the worst version. Yeah. I mean, amazing movie.

[03:13:27] And I'm glad we got to watch it for the for the pod. I didn't even know Goldblum was in it. Yeah. Yeah. Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I had seen this once before. I had also seen the 50s version. And I had seen the version with Daniel Craig and Nicole Kidman in 2007, which was called The Invasion. Yes. I've actually heard just recently. Sorry to cut you off before you start talking about your thoughts. But on Colors of the Dark podcast, they did a horror remakes counted their top five. Yeah. Body Snatcher with the Abel Ferrero. The Abel Ferrero from the 90s. Made Elric Kane's list.

[03:13:58] So I'm very interested to hear what that like he had a lot to say about it. So I'm very I want to track that down. That's the one that I haven't seen. But I recently bought the Blu-ray of that actually. Nice. I forget if that was like a Kino Lober or a Twilight Time or whatever it was. But I bought that one a while back. And yeah, I plan to watch that at some point. But I think I mean, not having seen the 90s one, this is to me the definitive version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I mean, I think what's cool about this story, and we talked about this in the episode, is that it's the kind of thing that's so malleable and perfect for like any era of history.

[03:14:28] So you look back at the 50s Body Snatchers, and it is all about McCarthyism, right? It's about that era that we were talking about with one of the Hollywood 10. You look at the 2007 invasion, and that's, you know, post-Iraq war. There's all that kind of stuff. The post-911 kind of paranoia and that kind of thing. And this is a post-Watergate paranoia thriller, which you saw so much of in the 70s, right? Your three days of the Condors and that kind of thing. And Invasion of the Body Snatchers takes that concept, the idea that you can't trust anybody

[03:14:56] in your life, or you have to hold close the people that you do trust because you never know when you won't be able to trust them again, takes that to its most extreme conclusions. Donald Sutherland and Veronica Cartwright are so incredible in this movie. I think Veronica Cartwright especially, there's something so charming about the way that she is able to do that weird trick with her eyes. Yeah. And I remember talking about the way they put that in this movie because it is a distinctly human thing that a body snatcher wouldn't be able to do. Right. And that kind of just creates that dissonance between the two of them.

[03:15:26] And yeah, Jeff Goldblum pops up, and he's a supporting character in the movie. I think he might be the first one to get snatched out of their group, either the first or the second one. He gets separated from them, and then he comes back, and he's a body snatcher. Yeah. And Leonard Nimoy, of course, also great in this movie, too. And yeah, just that combination of stuff. This is also directed by Philip Kaufman, who ends up doing the right stuff years later as well. I was kind of blown away by how good this movie was watching it again. Like, I saw it the first time, and it was another one of the situations where I watched it the first time, liked it. Second time, man, this is a masterpiece. Just like flat out.

[03:15:56] This is incredible. Yeah. Yeah. And have it also be pretty early. I don't know. Did you say what episode? This was episode 12. Episode 12. That's crazy. Yeah. He's only in good movies, we thought. It was smooth sailing until Beyond Therapy, Mike. Pretty much, yeah. Good times here. And then I guess, do we do the 3, 2, 1? I guess, yeah, I guess we have to, right? Yeah. Okay, 3, 2, 1. Jurassic.

[03:16:25] The Boss Baby Family Pistons. How could you do that to me? I didn't finish Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Ah, there it is. Yeah, no, of course, both of our number ones is Jurassic Park. It's not possible. Listen, if there's one thing the history of evolution has taught us, it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free. It expands to new territories and it crashes through barriers painfully, maybe even dangerously, but, uh...

[03:16:54] Oh, there it is. There it is. You're implying that a group composed entirely of female animals will breed? No, I'm simply saying that life, uh, finds a way. Yes. The first, what I wrote, right, I wrote down all the categories, the lists. I wrote 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, you know, all that. Uh, first things I wrote down was number one movie, Jurassic Park. Number one performance, The Fly. And then I was like, let me start thinking now.

[03:17:24] These are the gut check picks. Yes. And I kind of have the same way, like, I'm kind of the same way, where it's like, I know those are my number ones. Uh, and I, I was thinking about it with Jurassic Park. I mean, with, with the Cage podcast, we both had different number ones, I think, for both, for the performances and for, uh, movies. So I think it's interesting that we both have, like, consensus choices. Like, we both know right away. Like, these, this is obviously the best performance from Goldblum, and this is obviously the best movie. Uh, and I would, I'm, I'm gonna go as far as to say, I'm not sure if Jurassic Park is

[03:17:51] obviously the best Goldblum movie, but I think in terms of its stature as, like, one of the definitive blockbusters of the modern era, uh, of being literally the biggest movie of all time when it came out, and also for the place that it played in our own lives and childhoods. Yeah. It, like, it's gotta be number one. There's, like, no other choice. If, if we were, like, 10 years older, maybe it would have been The Fly, you know? I was gonna say, I think maybe, maybe a lot of people would flip The Fly in Jurassic Park. Yeah.

[03:18:19] There's, uh, but yeah, for us, we're almost the same age. You know, this is one of my babysitter movies that I've talked about on all the podcasts for years. Probably, I guess, if it was somehow possible to quantify how many times I've watched certain movies, this has gotta be the most, I assume. It would be high up there for me, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. It's, it's kind of personally defining movie, culturally defining for the 90s, kind of, like, gave CGI to the masses, sort of, as far as I'm aware. Um.

[03:18:47] I mean, it was already, you know, it was in development, uh, you know, it was already in the works and Terminator 2 is a couple of years earlier, which I mean, Terminator 2 came out. And, uh, that was sort of the inspiration to use CGI in Jurassic Park because I believe they were developing it. And Spielberg was like, oh, you know, I think the plan right now is to do stop motion or something like that. Right. And then, and then Terminator 2 came out and kind of changed the game for, for what was possible in terms of visual effects. Yeah. And it's crazy how, when you watch Jurassic Park almost 30 years later, it looks better than shit that I've seen this year, you know? Right.

[03:19:16] It looks better than Jurassic World, you know? Right. Yeah, exactly. Uh, which is crazy. Yeah. Perfect movie, honestly. Uh, we can watch, I can watch at any moment, anytime, any day, all the time, forever. Jurassic Park. Yeah. I mean, Jurassic Park rules. Uh, like I said, this movie came out, I think a week or two before I was born. Uh, and so I, I have never known a world without Jurassic Park. It has just always been around. I don't recall a moment where I saw it for the first time. Uh, it just always was there.

[03:19:44] I know my dad saw it in theaters, uh, which must've been very difficult to do as having a newborn. Some sacrifices have to be made. Exactly. Yeah. He must've done it. Like when my mom was like nine months pregnant or something right before I got it, right before I arrived. I know, I know he saw it and it was one of his favorite movies. And so we watched it all the time. And, uh, yeah, it was, it's Jurassic Park, man. It rules. Uh, it's, it's, you know, Spielberg is just like weirdly almost underrated as a filmmaker despite being one of like the most popular filmmaker of all time.

[03:20:14] Uh, you know what I mean? Just in terms of like, I feel like people often don't give him enough credit for the pure craft that goes into his movies. Um, because he makes like, well, big blockbusters, you know, the masses love them. And, uh, you know, now I think especially that we've had like a decade and a half, uh, of increasingly less auteurist blockbuster filmmaking. Spielberg's movies just look better and better with every, with every passing day. Uh, because there is like a real true, uh, incredible craft to them. And sure.

[03:20:41] He has some misses here and there, you know, you're ready player ones and stuff, your hooks or what have you. Um, but even as misses, I think often have great stuff in them. And Jurassic Park is just one of his, that is it's like this jaws and rage of the lost arc that I think are like the perfect trilogy of like unimpeachable classics, like untouchable, like Spielberg movies. Uh, and Spielberg came out with Jurassic Park and Schindler's list in the same year, which is one of those things that just completely boggles my mind. Uh, he made the biggest movie ever. And then one best picture for a different movie in the same year.

[03:21:12] Like unbelievable. That's insane. Oh my God. I never really thought about it in that context. Um, just absolutely insane. Uh, and really brought Jeff Goldblum back to the mainstream too, which is also a big part of it. I mean, he came back the year before with deep cover, which was a minor hit, but like, it wasn't something like a lot of people saw, you know, um, then Jeff Goldblum, Jurassic Park brought him back. Ian Malcolm was the biggest thing. And then, you know, he gets independence day a couple of years later. He gets lost world right after that. You know, he's, he's the lead in movies like hideaway and holy man and all that kind of stuff.

[03:21:42] He's trying, he's working, you know? Yeah. Like if you kind of think about one of those kind of like stuff they would show at the Oscars or like, you know, what a documentary or whatever, I don't know, like about, this is the example of what movies are other than Silverado. So, uh, it would be, it would just all be Steven Spielberg movies. Like it's crazy. It's easily the most influential filmmaker the last like 50 years. Yeah. You know? Yeah, absolutely. Uh, and it's wild that he's still doing it.

[03:22:10] Um, I didn't particularly enjoy West Side Story. I didn't really give it a full chance though. So I do want to check that out because obviously it's Steven Spielberg. Like I gotta, I gotta go back and do it. Yeah. Remember, remember movies, the cinema, the movies, man. Uh, yeah. And Jurassic Park, I mean, a movie that is so popular that, uh, it ended up being number one at the box office during the pandemic, um, because it was just the movie that people would see it drive in because it was just always around. Yeah. Yeah. Also like the movie that, I don't know, like I said, almost 30 years later when Animaniacs

[03:22:39] came back, I don't know why this is the thing that's coming back to me, but they spoof, they lampooned Jurassic Park. Yeah. The very first, the very first cold open of the new Animaniacs was Jurassic Park spoof. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, granted, I guess that's like Steven Spielberg adjacent thing also, but yeah. Well, yeah, but, but still it's ostensibly a thing meant for kids of like a new generation, um, that is parodying a movie that is almost 30 years old now. Yeah. Um, yeah. And it's crazy. What a good movie, but I'm glad, uh, we both had it at number one.

[03:23:06] I was kind of, I wasn't really sure like if we would both have it this high or you would even have it up here. I don't know. I felt like am I, am I copping out by putting this like the obvious quote unquote pick at number one, you know, but sometimes you just know. Yeah. Sometimes it's an obvious pick for a reason, you know, it's, it's gotta be up there. Uh, but yeah. So Jurassic Park was both of our number ones for context for the cage podcast. I believe my number one was raising Arizona and yours was Mandy. Yes. That sounds right. Yeah. So there you go.

[03:23:32] Uh, but I remember I sort of cheated and put a spider, a spider verse at like number two, I think like up near the top. I think, I mean, I think I had spider verse like number four, so I think we were both, but yeah, you, you, you had a strong recency bias in your, uh, in your list there too. With, uh, I mean, those are both masterpieces. So there's, there's that, but, but that was like a year after both of those movies came out. Right. Uh, but they were, they were both very strong picks. Uh, but anyway, so Jurassic Park was our number ones. Uh, Mike, should we run down our list one more time? Sure.

[03:24:02] At number 10, I got lay weekends. Number nine, I got the right stuff. Uh, the, at number eight, I got the adventures of Buckaroo Banzai across the eighth dimension, which might be the longest title of all time. Uh, number seven is the tall guy. Number six became Grand Budapest Hotel. Right. Number five was, uh, Lost World Jurassic Park. Number four was Silverado. Number three was The Fly. Number two was Invasion of the Body Snatchers. And number one was Jurassic Park. All right. And my number 10 was Next Stop Greenwich Village.

[03:24:31] My number nine was Nashville. Um, and number eight was Silverado. Number seven, the Grand Budapest Hotel. Number six, Deep Cover. Number five was California Split. Number four was The Life Aquatic with Steve Zizou. I had to fly at three, Body Snatchers at two, and of course, Jurassic Park at one. And, uh, Mike, any honorable mentions that you want to throw out there before we, uh, start wrapping this up? Um, well, I guess, I guess Deep Cover. I'm trying to look at some of the stuff I crossed out. Sure. Other than Deep Cover. Uh, but no, it was kind of, kind of a lot of rearranging for me once I, uh, got my sort

[03:25:00] of 10 other than Grand Budapest. Um, just kind of shuffling some stuff around. Um, and then, no, I don't think, I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I didn't mention somewhere else, at least, that I would want to highlight. Okay, fair enough. Uh, I will say my honorable mentions, uh, I'll, my honorable mentions are basically my, my 11 through 20 here. The Right Stuff, uh, is my 11. Uh, The Prince of Egypt is my number 12, a really terrific animated movie which you highlighted as, uh, Goldman's, uh, your favorite, Goldman voice role. Yeah, great movie. And, uh, from an era in which DreamWorks was doing some really just weird, like, throw

[03:25:30] stuff at the wall and see what sticks until we come out with Shrek is basically what The Prince of Egypt kind of resulted from. Uh, The Player also in there too, uh, which is a movie that I really loved. Goldblum's barely in it, but he, uh, he's like a 10 second cameo and a movie that has a million 10 second cameos from all kinds of different actors from that era. Uh, and Robert Altman's kind of comeback movie, which was pretty cool. So The Player was great. Uh, Independence Day, uh, as I'll mention here, which, uh, really has not gotten a lot of talk about in this episode. Yeah.

[03:25:57] Um, which is kind of surprising considering how, how big of a role that movie plays in the Goldblum oeuvre, I guess. But that movie rocks. I mean, it's great. I think we, there's been some Roland Emmerich appreciation in recent months thanks to a little movie called Moonfall. Yes, that's right. You might've heard of it. Uh, Independence Day Resurgence walked so that Moonfall could run. You heard her here first. Uh, but, uh, yeah, Moonfall we both really enjoyed, but Independence Day is truly like the classic of Emmerich's filmography. You know, it's, it's a movie that is, you know, ostensibly kind of dumb, but also one that

[03:26:25] you look back on now and there's, there's some great stuff there. It is a really fun propulsive action movie. Uh, and of course is the, uh, the star making role for Will Smith that is Jeff Goldblum and is, uh, at Blockbuster Heights. Uh, and it ended up being the second biggest movie ever after Jurassic Park. So, so yeah, really, really like Pete Goldblum right there in the mid nineties. Uh, then of course I got Faye Grimm thrown that in there as an honorable mention, uh, Thor Ragnarok as an honorable mention as well. Uh, also very fun one, special delivery, uh, Death Wish, Adam Resurrected, and, uh, The Sentinel.

[03:26:55] I'm throwing that out there as an honorable mention too. Oh, The Sentinel. Yeah. That movie kind of rocks. Yeah, that was a good one from, uh, Michael Winner who also directed Death Wish and, uh, Goblin pops up as a photographer in like two scenes, uh, or something like that. And, uh, yeah, a movie about, uh, an apartment building that may also be the gateway to hell. Yeah. Good stuff. That scene. I remember when like all the corpses or spirits or whatever, or like fill in the hallways, that shit was scary. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's, it's kind of like ripping off like six different horror movies and doing a pretty good job of all of it.

[03:27:24] Like it's, it's, it's having a lot of fun. Straight up recreates the scene, the shot with the beam of light coming out the window, like the exorcist. Yes. Um, yeah, and absolutely. And there's like a sequence where like the protagonist goes to like a party that looks like the thing from Rosemary's baby and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's, it's ripping off a bunch of stuff, but it's a fun time. I forgot about that. Yeah. Good times. Yeah. So I threw that out there as an honorable mention, but, uh, anyway, this is it. We, we, we did it. But yeah, we talked about this for almost as long as we talked about independence day.

[03:27:53] I think that episode is so long for it to not show up anywhere. It's hilarious. You're right, Mike. We got to start this whole thing over. I've already crossed out and replaced one movie. I can't do it again. You're right. You're right. Uh, yeah, no. So yeah, this episode has gone on. I mean, this will be with clips and stuff. This will probably be running about four hours. Um, but that's the way it goes sometimes. I mean, you need, you need a grand epic finale, right? And that means length of podcast and nothing else. Correct.

[03:28:23] Yes. Just keep talking. It's what we've learned. Exactly. Yes. Uh, but anyway, uh, before we wrap up this episode, Mike, uh, do want to give one quick shout out. Uh, let's move on to some letterbox reviews. Oh my God. Two weeks ago or three weeks ago, I guess at this point, we reviewed, uh, the boss baby family business, uh, which was the last gold blue movie that we had to review. We had search party afterwards. We had the cage movie right after that. But, uh, yeah, that was the last gold movie, which meant that was the last batch of letterbox reviews for the Jeff Goldblum podcast.

[03:28:52] And we were saddened to see that the point of critic had not done a poem for the boss baby family business, which we saw that and we're like, well, that's a bummer, but like we get it, you know? Yeah. If there's any movie you're allowed to not have reviewed. Exactly. Not seen. It's boss baby too. Yes. Uh, but it was a little bit saddening because of the point of critic has, uh, a bit of been on this journey almost as long as we have. It seems like, uh, you know, we, we kind of discovered poetic critics reviews and letterboxd,

[03:29:18] uh, at some point early on in the podcast, not exactly sure when maybe like 10 or 12 episodes in, you know, it was one of those things where you found a review and just kind of plugged it in there. Two episodes later, found another one, plugged it in there. And then the poetic critic, uh, started following the podcast, uh, discovered the podcast independently of that and was like delighted to hear her poems in our podcast. Uh, so, you know, she created like a helpful list for us where kind of kept track of all the poems that she was writing for the goldblum movies. And, uh, we kind of kept using them.

[03:29:45] Uh, and so, uh, it was always like a reliable thing to have a poetic critic, uh, review from letterboxd. And, uh, we were kind of bummed to see that there was no boss baby to review. Um, but right after we published the episode, the poetic critic did a boss baby to review. Hell yes. And sent it to us via Twitter. Uh, so I'm going to read that one right now. Here is the poetic critic giving a two and a half star review for the boss baby family business. Why am I here?

[03:30:10] To be there with the mics as we wrap up this podcast chat book thing, the goofy things they're making for the tykes these days, but dang it. Goldblum makes it sing as do the colors and the energy. Don't know if I'd revisit. C'est la vie. Oh man. I'm like, if I could get emotional over a stupid poem on letterboxd, I might. Um, that's amazing. Yes, absolutely. I love that we made the poem. We were in it, uh, which was great. Uh, yeah.

[03:30:39] So thank you so much to the poetic critic for supplying us with those great poems, uh, throughout the course of the season of the podcast. Uh, I know really the reason those poems were there was because you're a Jeff Goldblum super fan. So you're, you're watching all those movies anyway, and you were creating poems for them on letterboxd. Uh, hopefully there are still some poetic poetic poems to come for season three. For whatever movies we end up talking about. Yes. Just like we've taken credit for unbearable weight of massive talent. Uh, and well, I forget what the other thing we took credit for on this podcast for Jeff Goldblum.

[03:31:07] Uh, we can say that the poetic critic made the poems for us. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yeah. No, the poems were already there for the most part. And then, uh, you know, I think they, they started filling them out, like kind of as the podcast started going along every once in a while, you would see one that was like published like a day before we recorded the podcast. Nice. Uh, got, got him in under the wire, but, uh, yeah. So once again, thank you to the poetic critic and thank you to everybody who has been listening along, uh, this pretty insane journey of, of Jeff Goldblum. Yes. Yeah.

[03:31:34] We found out what the world is like, according to Jeff Goldblum. I don't know. I couldn't remember. You know, we are, we already wedged in a bunch of titles at the beginning of the podcast, Mike, so we don't need to do that again. I was trying to do your intro, your last, your last, like, goblin maniac. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. You can try again if you want. Nah, we're three and a half hours in. We're good. We just need to end this. Hey, I can't worry. We can't be workshopping bits now. The season's over. That's true. Yeah. There's no more time for bits anymore. Man.

[03:32:03] I mean, all you can say, Mike, is that this podcast may have seen better days. I don't know if we should even outro now. Oh, I'll play it. I'll play it again as we outro out. I think we have to. Oh, okay. Excellent. All right, Mike, where can we find you online this week? You can find me at MDFailBlog on Twitter and Letterboxd. And if you'd like to donate to support the show, you could do that at our Ko-fi page,

[03:32:30] which is ko-fi.com slash Mike and Mike Pods, plural, because we have two podcasts. Yes, we do. You can find me online at MSmithFilmBlog on Twitter, Mike Smith Film on Letterboxd, Radio Mike Sandwich on Instagram. Thanks so much for listening to The Complete Works. I'm Mike Smith. That's Mike Decree Show. Don't forget to rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts or any other podcast app. And if you want to contact us, you can hit us up at GoldbloomPod on Twitter. You can find the rest of our podcast on Rapture Press alongside many other podcasts about Complex and Movie News and all that good stuff.

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[03:33:28] We didn't decide. Yeah. Once we figure out what the season's going to be, there will be a little bit of a break in the podcast while we kind of get that season ramped up and stuff. But next week, we will be picking who are the candidates for what Season 3 is going to be. And I think that's going to be a very fun, contentious discussion. Yeah, I hope so. I think we're going to come to just a conclusion about who these four people should be. Absolutely. It'll be fun. Yes, definitely. So we will be deciding that next week. Plus, this week on Mike and Mike go to the movies, we're talking Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.

[03:33:57] So that should be a fun discussion too, if we are even still conscious by the time we finish this podcast, because we've got to record that one right after this. Yes. It'll be fun to see if my voice is there. Yes. Mistakes were made along the way. But there you go. Thanks so much for listening, guys. And remember, one more time, to go for the gold blue. I ain't got much to lose.