Mike and Mike are finally kicking off Season 4 of The Complete Works and diving into the filmography of Roy Scheider! And things begin with Del Tenney's 1964 low-budget horror film THE CURSE OF THE LIVING CORPSE, featuring a substantial early role for Scheider and also starring CARNIVAL OF SOULS' Candace Hilligoss!
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[00:00:23] Hello and welcome to episode one of The Complete Works season four.
[00:00:28] A deep dive into the career and films of actor Roy Scheider.
[00:00:33] My name is Mike Smith and joining me on this journey across the Scheiderverse
[00:00:37] is my friend, co-host and fellow Roy Boy.
[00:00:40] I'm like to Chris.
[00:00:43] How you doing?
[00:00:44] I am gonna, it's gonna be a while before I get used to that.
[00:00:49] Truly, I could not think of anything else.
[00:00:52] I like it.
[00:00:54] I think we should not workshop it at all. We're committed.
[00:00:58] Roy Boy's till the day we die.
[00:01:00] Yes.
[00:01:02] I'm great. How are you?
[00:01:04] Good. I'm good Mike because it's time once again
[00:01:07] for us to embark upon another cinematic journey.
[00:01:10] We are about to dive deep into the filmography of Roy Scheider.
[00:01:15] We've been doing this podcast since 2015.
[00:01:17] That's crazy.
[00:01:18] Nine years.
[00:01:21] For four actors.
[00:01:23] Yes.
[00:01:24] In that time, it took us four years to complete our first season
[00:01:28] which was sent to Nicholas Cage.
[00:01:30] Complete in air quotes.
[00:01:31] Yes. Complete because it's still ongoing.
[00:01:33] It then took us two years to complete the Jeff Goldblum season
[00:01:36] and it was just over a year that we talked about the films of Michelle Yeo.
[00:01:40] So at that current rate, we could bang this out in a couple of months.
[00:01:44] We've got six months. Let's go. Come on.
[00:01:46] Of course, those seasons may not be putting out regular episodes anymore
[00:01:50] but they are far from over.
[00:01:51] We simply caught up to Cage, Goldblum and Yeo
[00:01:54] so that anytime they've got a new movie out
[00:01:56] we've got to pause our current season to talk about it.
[00:01:59] Now I for one am a fan of that chaos.
[00:02:03] Seeping into the podcast.
[00:02:05] I think that's pretty funny,
[00:02:06] especially when Nicholas Cage puts out seven movies
[00:02:08] in a single year like he did last year.
[00:02:10] That's son of a bitch.
[00:02:12] Pretty good.
[00:02:14] Three of them. Pretty good.
[00:02:16] Yeah, dream scenario. Good.
[00:02:18] Renfield I liked. Renfield's okay.
[00:02:20] Yeah.
[00:02:21] We don't need a diet. We don't need specifics.
[00:02:24] No winded unbearable weight of massive talent.
[00:02:26] That was the year before. That was 2022.
[00:02:28] I take it all back.
[00:02:29] 2023, what a waste. Throw it all out.
[00:02:31] I enjoy that chaos
[00:02:32] but I know Mike D was kind of getting sick of it
[00:02:34] and it was becoming kind of like untenable.
[00:02:36] And so your goal this season, Mike
[00:02:38] was to get somebody who wasn't making movies anymore.
[00:02:42] By any means necessary.
[00:02:44] So that this season will simply just be done
[00:02:47] when we reach its end.
[00:02:49] And so all of your finalists for season four
[00:02:51] were dead people.
[00:02:52] Yes. We don't have to be...
[00:02:54] Okay, no they were all dead people.
[00:02:56] That was my goal.
[00:02:57] I could have picked a retired person
[00:02:59] but the only one I could think of was Gene Hackman
[00:03:01] so I was like everybody's dead.
[00:03:03] Gene Hackman would have been a good choice.
[00:03:05] Would have been a great pick.
[00:03:06] I think if he was one of the finalists
[00:03:07] he probably would have won honestly.
[00:03:09] You think so?
[00:03:10] Yeah, I mean, well
[00:03:11] I was gonna say we'll find out next season
[00:03:13] but he's disqualified for season five
[00:03:14] because he's in the French connection.
[00:03:15] Fuck.
[00:03:16] We got to reopen the poll.
[00:03:18] Forget this. We're starting over.
[00:03:20] We gotta start from scratch.
[00:03:22] Mike D got his wish.
[00:03:24] Thanks to all the people who voted in the poll
[00:03:26] and made Roy Scheider our subject
[00:03:28] for the complete works season four.
[00:03:30] The lead actor in the movie that I always refer to
[00:03:32] as my default all time favorite, Jaws.
[00:03:35] I think Mike D, you're in a similar boat.
[00:03:37] A bigger one perhaps.
[00:03:38] Yes, I am in a bigger boat.
[00:03:40] Default answer Jaws.
[00:03:41] Yeah.
[00:03:42] And someone who I've loved to see pop up over the years
[00:03:45] as I discovered other new favorites
[00:03:47] like Clute, French Connection, Sorsver,
[00:03:49] Marathon Man, all that jazz.
[00:03:51] You know, I'm very excited to dive into it.
[00:03:53] It's funny that all that jazz also worked
[00:03:55] as like a replacement for et cetera
[00:03:57] at the end of that.
[00:03:58] Oh, we're gonna be doing that all season long.
[00:04:00] That's the plan.
[00:04:02] I also will say
[00:04:03] I've had a few like quizzical looks from people
[00:04:05] when I tell them that Roy Scheider is the
[00:04:07] subject of this season.
[00:04:09] You know, and obviously we're going further back
[00:04:12] into film history with this season
[00:04:13] than we have in years past, which is kind of fun.
[00:04:15] But I was out the other night
[00:04:17] and somebody was asking me about the podcast
[00:04:19] and like they knew that we were doing the new season.
[00:04:21] They saw my post about it and stuff
[00:04:23] and they were like, oh yeah, so season four.
[00:04:25] You guys are doing Rob Schneider, right?
[00:04:29] I was like, no, no, no.
[00:04:30] We're not doing Rob Schneider.
[00:04:32] Don't really want to be associated there.
[00:04:34] We're doing Roy Scheider.
[00:04:35] Yeah, very different.
[00:04:37] Really got to enunciate what we say his name.
[00:04:40] Exactly, yeah.
[00:04:41] If the people want us to do an episode on the hot chick,
[00:04:44] it has to be Rachel McAdams.
[00:04:45] That's what we got.
[00:04:46] Yeah.
[00:04:47] We're not doing a Rob Schneider season of the podcast.
[00:04:49] I have to put my foot down on that.
[00:04:51] We got to back our way into a hot chick episode.
[00:04:53] Yes.
[00:04:54] So we're going to be talking about all of Roy Scheider's
[00:04:57] movies and some TV stuff in the weeks and months to come.
[00:05:00] But today we have to start from the humble beginnings.
[00:05:03] And like we do every season, here's a quick background
[00:05:06] on what Roy Scheider was doing before he made movies.
[00:05:09] Roy Scheider, a life happening here.
[00:05:12] There was like a book, like a biography release
[00:05:14] right after he died.
[00:05:15] I have not read it.
[00:05:16] I'm going to contend his life into three paragraphs.
[00:05:18] Okay, here we go.
[00:05:20] Before movies.
[00:05:21] Roy Scheider born in the town of Orange, New Jersey.
[00:05:24] Love our hometown boy.
[00:05:26] Yeah, there you go.
[00:05:27] In the year 1932,
[00:05:29] he was an athlete growing up, made a name for himself locally
[00:05:32] as an amateur boxer actually.
[00:05:34] That is the most on brand thing I've ever heard somebody
[00:05:38] that used to do.
[00:05:40] Right, just seems about right.
[00:05:42] He was an amateur boxer,
[00:05:43] which he started doing at the age of 14,
[00:05:45] which back in the 40s was allowed.
[00:05:48] Yeah, they didn't know back then.
[00:05:51] Yeah, they didn't know that getting punched in the face
[00:05:54] over and over again was bad for your health.
[00:05:56] So started doing at the age of 14,
[00:05:58] he boxed for three years until he was 17.
[00:06:01] And then he was like, I'm out.
[00:06:02] I'm retired from the sport.
[00:06:03] Going out on top.
[00:06:04] I'm too old, you know.
[00:06:05] He boxed for three years because it wasn't really for him.
[00:06:08] He went to college at Rutgers University in 1950,
[00:06:11] where he started to study drama.
[00:06:13] And then after college,
[00:06:14] Scheider served three years in the Air Force
[00:06:16] from 1955 through 1958.
[00:06:18] And then from there,
[00:06:19] he was a captain in the Air Force Reserve Command
[00:06:22] until 1964.
[00:06:24] Scheider participated in theater during his time
[00:06:27] in the Air Force Reserve.
[00:06:28] So what happened in 1964 that got Roy Scheider
[00:06:32] to leave the Air Force?
[00:06:33] Well, it was probably his first movie role.
[00:06:36] Whoa, you got a call from Del Terry or whatever
[00:06:39] that guy's name is.
[00:06:40] Del Tenney.
[00:06:41] Tenney, I was so close.
[00:06:42] Got the call from Del Tenney, left the Air Force,
[00:06:44] and he made the movie we're talking about today,
[00:06:46] The Curse of the Living Corpse.
[00:06:50] See the creature that undrapes the passion.
[00:07:13] Now the curse of the Living Corpse
[00:07:22] is a horror B movie written, produced and directed by Del Tenney,
[00:07:25] an actor-director who has often been compared
[00:07:28] to one of his contemporaries, Ed Wood.
[00:07:30] Yikes.
[00:07:31] Yikes.
[00:07:32] Yikes.
[00:07:33] Yikes.
[00:07:34] Yikes.
[00:07:35] Yikes.
[00:07:36] Someone who was very sincere about his love for film,
[00:07:38] making movies around the same time,
[00:07:40] but who made movies that were generally considered awful,
[00:07:43] often in a so bad it's good sort of way.
[00:07:46] That reputation largely comes from his other 1964 film,
[00:07:50] The Horror of Party Beach,
[00:07:52] which was released a double feature with this movie.
[00:07:55] The Horror of Party Beach is also a mystery science
[00:07:57] dude of 3,000 episode,
[00:07:58] which is available in full on YouTube right now.
[00:08:01] I actually watched Horror of Party Beach
[00:08:03] in addition to Corpse of the Living Corpse.
[00:08:05] Mike, you didn't get the chance to do both, right?
[00:08:07] I did not.
[00:08:08] Yeah, I opted to watch Candice Hilligloss'
[00:08:10] other movie, Carnival of Souls.
[00:08:12] And I did intend to also watch
[00:08:14] Horror of Party Beach,
[00:08:16] but I just didn't get around to it.
[00:08:17] I didn't have time.
[00:08:18] Yeah, I watched Horror of Party Beach,
[00:08:20] the non-MST3K version.
[00:08:22] And at the end of it, I kind of thought,
[00:08:24] man, I should have watched the MST3K version.
[00:08:27] It's not even that I didn't like.
[00:08:29] I kind of thought it was sort of charming,
[00:08:31] but it was one of those things where it's like,
[00:08:32] I'm alone, my girlfriend fell asleep, it's midnight.
[00:08:34] I need like friends to be watching this with.
[00:08:37] Or fictional robot friends
[00:08:40] that I can be watching this with, you know?
[00:08:43] So both movies, Horror of Party Beach
[00:08:45] and The Curse of the Living Corpse
[00:08:47] were filmed in Stanford, Connecticut,
[00:08:49] in a partnership between Del Tenney and Alan Eisling,
[00:08:52] a producer whose family owned a series of drive-in theaters
[00:08:56] in Albany, New York.
[00:08:58] Our old stomping grounds back.
[00:08:59] We're just getting all the Northeast hot spots right now.
[00:09:02] We've hit the entire Tri-State area, I think.
[00:09:04] I think we did.
[00:09:05] Yeah.
[00:09:06] So the idea here was to create
[00:09:08] a double feature exclusively for drive-ins.
[00:09:10] This wouldn't play in theaters,
[00:09:11] this would just play at drive-ins,
[00:09:13] and it was produced by a guy who owned a bunch of drive-ins.
[00:09:15] This rules.
[00:09:16] Which feels illegal, I don't know.
[00:09:18] It feels wrong, right?
[00:09:20] As illustrated on our Transylvania 5, 6000 episode,
[00:09:23] we love a tax scam on this pod.
[00:09:25] Sure, yes.
[00:09:26] We love a moneylund.
[00:09:27] We love a moneylund.
[00:09:28] What did I say?
[00:09:29] I flipped it around in there.
[00:09:30] 5,000, 6,000, whatever.
[00:09:31] But yeah, that is also a movie
[00:09:33] that was like maybe tax fraud, right?
[00:09:35] I think like well-documented moneylundering.
[00:09:38] Yeah, it was a front.
[00:09:39] Yeah.
[00:09:41] So Del Tenney had acted with Candace Hillegas
[00:09:43] on stage before.
[00:09:44] They were both theater actors and he had worked with her.
[00:09:47] She had just made her feature debut
[00:09:49] as the lead in the aforementioned Carnival of Souls
[00:09:52] from 1962, which was pretty much ignored by critics at the time,
[00:09:56] though has since seen reappraisal
[00:09:58] and has gained a call following.
[00:10:00] So he invited Candace Hillegas to be in the cast
[00:10:02] of The Curse of the Living Corpse,
[00:10:04] which she accepted.
[00:10:05] And she was the one to recommend Roy Scheider
[00:10:08] to Del Tenney because she had worked with him
[00:10:12] on stage before in Washington, DC
[00:10:14] and thought that he could be an effective villain character.
[00:10:17] He just seemed like somebody who could do it.
[00:10:18] Del Tenney did cast him largely because he believed
[00:10:21] that Roy Scheider looked like George C. Scott.
[00:10:24] You know, now that you've said that in my brain,
[00:10:27] yes.
[00:10:28] A little bit, especially right then,
[00:10:30] like 1964 Roy Scheider, absolutely.
[00:10:32] There is a resemblance.
[00:10:33] I thought that was funny because George C. Scott
[00:10:35] was another one of your contenders
[00:10:37] for the Complete Work Season 4.
[00:10:39] I was really onto something, me and Del Tenney
[00:10:41] on the same vibe.
[00:10:42] Yes, exactly.
[00:10:43] And so it was that Roy Scheider
[00:10:45] made his feature film debut as Philip Sinclair
[00:10:48] in The Curse of the Living Corpse
[00:10:50] as an alcoholic whose father just died.
[00:10:52] But when other members of his family start dying,
[00:10:55] could he be the one behind it?
[00:10:57] We'll find out.
[00:10:58] Yeah, spoilers.
[00:10:59] Yes.
[00:11:00] Yeah.
[00:11:03] So there are a couple of other actors
[00:11:04] appearing in the movie.
[00:11:05] Margot Hartman, who is Del Tenney's real-life wife
[00:11:08] and then later became like a business person
[00:11:10] and philanthropist.
[00:11:11] She was on the board of several theaters
[00:11:13] and all that stuff.
[00:11:14] She plays Vivian, or Roy Scheider's wife.
[00:11:16] Scheider's brother Bruce is played by Robert Milley,
[00:11:18] a soap opera actor who also had a small role in Clute.
[00:11:21] So we'll see him again in the next few weeks.
[00:11:23] Nephew James Benson is played by Hugh Franklin
[00:11:25] from All My Children and Candice Hilogeas,
[00:11:28] who mostly retired as an actor after this movie,
[00:11:31] appears as Deborah, James' wife.
[00:11:33] Also, Del Tenney appears,
[00:11:35] Del Tenney appears,
[00:11:36] uncredited as the titular living corpse.
[00:11:39] Really?
[00:11:40] Yeah.
[00:11:41] Anytime you see somebody walking around with a cape...
[00:11:44] I wondered.
[00:11:45] I was like, this has got to be somebody is here.
[00:11:47] Yeah.
[00:11:48] That's the director of the movie, Del Tenney,
[00:11:50] which just to keep the Ed Wood comparison going,
[00:11:52] that really reminded me of playing
[00:11:53] Nine for Matter Space, right?
[00:11:54] Yeah.
[00:11:55] The guy pretending to be Bella Lagos.
[00:11:57] Yeah, 100%.
[00:11:58] That's so funny.
[00:11:59] Yeah.
[00:12:00] So cursed living corpse was written and directed by Del Tenney
[00:12:02] and released alongside the horror of Party Beach.
[00:12:05] His next film would be 1971's I Eat Your Skin,
[00:12:09] which is a zombie movie released as a double with a movie
[00:12:12] called I Drink Your Blood, which is a vampire movie,
[00:12:15] which that's a great double right there.
[00:12:17] That rules.
[00:12:18] Fantastic.
[00:12:19] And I believe there are still 35 millimeter prints
[00:12:21] of those two movies available because the New Beverly
[00:12:23] Cinema did a double feature of those two movies
[00:12:25] in the last couple of years.
[00:12:27] Wow.
[00:12:28] So yeah, that's neat.
[00:12:29] I eat your skin and I drink your blood.
[00:12:31] We both still have kind of a cult following surrounding them.
[00:12:34] Tenney's final film as director came in 2003,
[00:12:37] which was an Edgar Allen Poe adaptation called Descendant,
[00:12:40] which starred Jeremy London from Mallrats
[00:12:42] and a pre-Grey's Anatomy, Catherine Heigl.
[00:12:45] What the fuck?
[00:12:47] Yeah.
[00:12:48] A wild career this guy.
[00:12:49] We should do him this season.
[00:12:51] Forget Ray Scheider.
[00:12:53] It's time to talk about Del Kenny people.
[00:12:55] The cursed living corpse premiered in New York
[00:12:58] on April 29th, 1964.
[00:13:00] And unfortunately, I could not find weekend box office records
[00:13:04] that go back that far.
[00:13:06] Thanks for nothing box office mojo.
[00:13:08] Ever since IMDb bought them out.
[00:13:10] No, I don't know what else would have come out.
[00:13:12] I can't think of anything done.
[00:13:13] Well, I can give you the 10 biggest films of that year, Mike,
[00:13:15] if you'd like to hear those instead.
[00:13:17] So the top grossing movies of 1964,
[00:13:19] the number one highest grossing movie of that year.
[00:13:22] Do you want to take a stab at it, Mike?
[00:13:24] Was it The Curse or The Living Corse?
[00:13:27] It was.
[00:13:28] It swept the Oscars.
[00:13:29] Wow.
[00:13:30] Good for them.
[00:13:31] No, Mary Poppins was the biggest movie of that year.
[00:13:34] Followed by My Fair Lady, Goldfinger,
[00:13:37] The Carpet Baggers from Russia With Love,
[00:13:40] another James Bond movie,
[00:13:41] which was from last year, from 1963.
[00:13:43] It just held over.
[00:13:45] Yeah, it just stuck around.
[00:13:46] It was Bond.
[00:13:47] It was big.
[00:13:48] A shot in the dark.
[00:13:49] What a way to go exclamation points.
[00:13:51] The Unsinkable Molly of Ground,
[00:13:53] the original Pink Panther, and A Hard Day's Night.
[00:13:56] Isn't a shot in the dark also a Pink Panther movie?
[00:13:59] Is it?
[00:14:00] I think so.
[00:14:01] I'm going to check.
[00:14:02] I'm going to check on that one, Mike.
[00:14:03] You might be right about that.
[00:14:05] I've seen the first Pink Panther I've not seen,
[00:14:07] or I've seen the Steve Martin remake,
[00:14:08] but I haven't seen the other sequels.
[00:14:12] Because I think there was like the thing that
[00:14:14] a lot of those movies were not,
[00:14:15] didn't have Pink Panther in the title,
[00:14:17] though like three or four or whatever it is.
[00:14:18] Boom. You're right, Mike.
[00:14:19] Yeah, no.
[00:14:20] A shot in the dark is the second Pink Panther movie.
[00:14:22] That's wild.
[00:14:23] Two Vons and two Pink Panthers.
[00:14:25] I mean, this was back in the arrow.
[00:14:26] And you know, if a movie was a hit,
[00:14:28] it would stick around for months on end.
[00:14:30] That's the thing.
[00:14:31] And there wasn't like multiplexers or whatever.
[00:14:33] It would just be like, oh, here's the one theater in town.
[00:14:35] They're playing Pink Panther for five months.
[00:14:38] You know, that's...
[00:14:39] I guess we're going again.
[00:14:41] Yeah, exactly.
[00:14:42] And so yeah, the Pink Panther came out December 18th, 1963.
[00:14:46] A shot in the dark June 23rd, 1964.
[00:14:48] So six months later, Pink Panther 2 was already out.
[00:14:51] That's wild.
[00:14:52] That is cool.
[00:14:53] Good catch, Mike.
[00:14:54] That one.
[00:14:55] Have you seen a shot in the dark?
[00:14:56] I have, yeah.
[00:14:57] My parents really love those movies.
[00:14:58] So they were kind of a...
[00:14:59] Not on rotation, but well, they were also heavily
[00:15:02] in the quote rotation for my parents.
[00:15:05] But yes.
[00:15:06] Yeah, fair enough.
[00:15:07] I should do a...
[00:15:08] Like I said, I've seen the first Pink Panther.
[00:15:10] I want to say like when I was like 12 or something
[00:15:13] and I haven't seen it since,
[00:15:15] I should do a Pink Panther run.
[00:15:16] There's so many of these movies.
[00:15:17] Yeah.
[00:15:18] I remember, I think maybe those first two or three
[00:15:20] are pretty funny,
[00:15:21] but they definitely suffer from...
[00:15:23] Comedy is very different now.
[00:15:25] You should know.
[00:15:26] And I don't mean that in like a problematic...
[00:15:28] I mean, there is like problematics up,
[00:15:29] but like it's just a lot slower
[00:15:31] and the jokes are not, you know,
[00:15:33] we're used to the rapid fire,
[00:15:34] every left per minute kind of thing.
[00:15:36] Yeah.
[00:15:37] And these aren't really that,
[00:15:38] but they're fun.
[00:15:39] They're a good time.
[00:15:40] Cool.
[00:15:41] Yeah.
[00:15:42] There's the Pink Panther,
[00:15:43] A Shot in the Dark,
[00:15:44] and Inspector Clouseau is the third movie.
[00:15:45] And then it's a return of the Pink Panther.
[00:15:46] Pink Panther strikes again.
[00:15:47] It revenges the Pink Panther,
[00:15:48] trail of the Pink Panther,
[00:15:49] curse of the Pink Panther,
[00:15:50] and son of the Pink Panther.
[00:15:52] Wild.
[00:15:53] That goes all the way through 93.
[00:15:55] At a certain point,
[00:15:57] what's the name of the actor?
[00:15:58] Why am I blanking on his name?
[00:15:59] Peter Sellers?
[00:16:00] Yeah.
[00:16:01] At a certain point, Peter Sellers dies, right?
[00:16:02] He's not in the movie.
[00:16:03] I mean, well we all die, Mike, so...
[00:16:05] Well yeah.
[00:16:08] But I think it can't still be him.
[00:16:09] I don't know when he died.
[00:16:11] Okay.
[00:16:12] Looks like Revenge of the Pink Panther is,
[00:16:13] in 1978 was the final on set performance
[00:16:15] of Peter Sellers as Jacques Clouseau.
[00:16:17] Got it.
[00:16:18] And then I think there's like one of them
[00:16:20] that was like, oh yeah, I think it's trail of the Pink Panther
[00:16:22] that uses weird footage,
[00:16:25] extra stuff,
[00:16:27] sort of like that last Bruce Lee movie
[00:16:29] that's in my criteria and collection box.
[00:16:32] Yeah, they did that a couple of times,
[00:16:33] which is unfortunate.
[00:16:35] But then who plays him in Curse of the Pink Panther?
[00:16:36] David Niven?
[00:16:37] David Niven?
[00:16:38] What?
[00:16:39] Oh no, he's not playing Inspector Clouseau.
[00:16:40] No, it's a different inspector.
[00:16:41] It's not even Inspector Clouseau.
[00:16:42] Ah, Pasha.
[00:16:43] Herbert Lam plays Inspector Charles Dreyfus.
[00:16:46] Piss on you, Inspector Dreyfus.
[00:16:48] Oh, wait, no.
[00:16:49] Roger Moore plays Inspector Clouseau
[00:16:51] in Curse of the Pink Panther,
[00:16:53] but he's very far down the list,
[00:16:54] so it might be like a cameo or something.
[00:16:56] Oh, okay.
[00:16:57] Wait, what?
[00:16:58] I'm reading the end of this.
[00:16:59] How many of these Candice Hilliglasses?
[00:17:01] Hold on.
[00:17:02] One last thing about the Pink Panther.
[00:17:04] I glanced at this and I have to talk about it.
[00:17:06] Out at sea in a boat,
[00:17:07] it is revealed that Sir Charles Litten
[00:17:09] had stolen the Pink Panther diamond from Chandra
[00:17:11] and Roger Moore,
[00:17:12] who was heavily implied earlier
[00:17:14] to not actually be the real Roger Moore,
[00:17:16] but a very much alive Clouseau,
[00:17:18] having indeed changed his face and identity
[00:17:20] for reasons unknown.
[00:17:22] So Roger Moore is playing himself,
[00:17:24] but actually he is Inspector Clouseau in disguise.
[00:17:26] So this is where John Woo got the idea from.
[00:17:28] Yeah, this is the face off.
[00:17:30] Yeah.
[00:17:32] Honestly, sounds great.
[00:17:33] I gotta watch all these movies now.
[00:17:35] But in any case, this is not a Pink Panther podcast, Mike.
[00:17:38] This is a Roy Scheider podcast
[00:17:40] and the IMD Plot synopsis
[00:17:42] for the Curse of the Living Corpse
[00:17:44] reads,
[00:17:45] relatives gather at an old house
[00:17:47] for the reading of a will,
[00:17:48] but the dead man comes back to life
[00:17:50] and starts killing.
[00:17:51] Okay, spot on.
[00:17:55] So Mike, I mean, going into this,
[00:17:57] you know, this is our first movie
[00:17:58] in our Roy Scheider season of the podcast.
[00:18:00] This is Roy Scheider's feature film debut.
[00:18:02] What did you expect going into this movie?
[00:18:04] What did you get coming out of it?
[00:18:06] And maybe just what do you hope for
[00:18:08] for this season of the podcast?
[00:18:09] Yeah, going into this episode
[00:18:12] for this movie.
[00:18:13] I didn't really know what to expect a ton.
[00:18:15] I mean, my most familiarity
[00:18:17] with Scheider's performances are
[00:18:19] is that 70s run, you know,
[00:18:22] where it's like the French connections
[00:18:24] and Jaws and Sorcerer and that kind of stuff.
[00:18:26] That's definitely the big one.
[00:18:27] Yeah, like that big stretch of movies
[00:18:28] is gonna be a lot of fun.
[00:18:29] And marathon, man, just, you know,
[00:18:31] all the like the best movies of all time.
[00:18:33] Right.
[00:18:34] So that'll be very fun.
[00:18:35] I am more familiar with that time period for him.
[00:18:37] So that's the kind of performances
[00:18:38] that I am sort of expecting
[00:18:40] when I think of Roy Scheider,
[00:18:41] that's what I think of.
[00:18:42] So I'm excited for the rest of the season
[00:18:45] to be like, oh, wow, actually,
[00:18:47] he's doing this other thing and these things
[00:18:49] and all that jazz and all that stuff.
[00:18:51] Right.
[00:18:52] So that's what I'm most excited for,
[00:18:53] I think for the season in general
[00:18:55] is to see when he when he enters
[00:18:57] that like tough guy amateur boxer mode
[00:18:59] or whatever, which is a very fun tidbit
[00:19:01] that makes a lot of sense.
[00:19:02] Or when he's in like quiet sensitive mode
[00:19:04] or whatever, whatever other stuff he's doing
[00:19:06] that I think that'll be what I'm
[00:19:08] most excited for to see the range
[00:19:10] and to see if there how much there is.
[00:19:12] Like to see then become typecast
[00:19:14] and then he's in this role in every movie,
[00:19:16] you know, at post the 70s, I have no idea really.
[00:19:18] So I know he gets into some of those
[00:19:20] like what would be a VOD
[00:19:23] like kind of crime movie or whatever
[00:19:26] at some point in the late 80s.
[00:19:28] And like so I'm excited to see
[00:19:29] what those movies are like and stuff.
[00:19:31] But the thing about personally living corpse
[00:19:33] that most surprised me also is like,
[00:19:36] oh wow, this is like the idea acting
[00:19:39] like, you know, like it makes sense that these are all
[00:19:41] like kind of Northeast regional theater people
[00:19:43] that are making this movie
[00:19:45] because it feels like that.
[00:19:47] But in a fun way and then you can see
[00:19:49] the Ed Woodness comparisons that make sense.
[00:19:52] I think these are much more polished
[00:19:54] and put together or at least curse living corpse.
[00:19:56] And I'm also thinking of Carnival of Souls
[00:19:58] because they do feel of a piece
[00:19:59] not just besides the Candice Hilligoss
[00:20:01] Hilligoss connection.
[00:20:03] Right, which if we were to do the complete works
[00:20:05] of Candice Hilligoss, it would be those two movies.
[00:20:08] We're done, we did it.
[00:20:09] And then that's it, yeah, pretty much.
[00:20:10] I mean, it sounds like she was uncredited
[00:20:13] in the movie in 1971, like in a bit part.
[00:20:15] She was in a documentary in 2001 as herself
[00:20:18] and then she did a voice in 2022
[00:20:20] in like an animated short film.
[00:20:22] And that's it.
[00:20:23] That's it.
[00:20:24] That's everything Candice Hilligoss has ever done.
[00:20:27] She's still alive.
[00:20:28] She's 88 years old.
[00:20:29] She's around.
[00:20:30] Good for her man.
[00:20:31] And she rocks in both both movies,
[00:20:33] which is wild that I guess she was just like,
[00:20:35] I have accomplished everything I want to accomplish, I guess.
[00:20:37] Yeah.
[00:20:38] I think she became very disillusioned with acting
[00:20:40] just basically she got married to an actor named Nicholas Coster.
[00:20:43] They divorced and then she later self-published
[00:20:45] a memoir that was titled The Odyssey and the Idiocy,
[00:20:48] Marriage to an Actor.
[00:20:50] Incredible.
[00:20:51] So Curse the Living Corpse,
[00:20:54] honestly kind of was like knives out.
[00:20:56] Like I wonder if Ryan Johnson must have seen this.
[00:20:58] I thought that too.
[00:20:59] Yeah.
[00:21:00] Just I mean in terms of like a large group of people
[00:21:02] hearing a wheel reading.
[00:21:03] Yeah.
[00:21:04] And in this kind of like, you know,
[00:21:06] pastoral New England fall thing,
[00:21:09] you know, at a large manor house.
[00:21:11] I don't know.
[00:21:12] I mean it's just a very like gothic set up
[00:21:14] and structure anyway.
[00:21:15] But it made me think of that.
[00:21:16] And yeah, in general it's just,
[00:21:18] it's not great,
[00:21:20] but it is pretty fun and interesting
[00:21:23] in sort of like a early 60s regional movie
[00:21:26] archaeology kind of way, you know,
[00:21:28] just like this weird artifact that is probably
[00:21:30] only remembered by most people
[00:21:32] because it's Roy Shiter's first on-screen performance.
[00:21:35] Right.
[00:21:36] And so that's cool.
[00:21:37] And everybody is like,
[00:21:39] like I said they do it like I'm an actor
[00:21:41] and all their stuff is all their dialogue
[00:21:43] and everything and all the scenes are
[00:21:45] really like sharp witty insults
[00:21:48] because it's I think it's like 1890
[00:21:50] or something like that.
[00:21:51] So it's like insults under a couple layers
[00:21:53] of Antondra and stuff.
[00:21:55] And everybody is lounging about drinking
[00:21:58] and talking about how glad they are
[00:22:00] because their dad is dead and all this stuff.
[00:22:02] You know, it's just like an interesting weird thing
[00:22:04] and it's under 90 minutes.
[00:22:06] I think it's like 88 or something
[00:22:08] but it just makes it under 90.
[00:22:10] And it's yeah, I had a good time with it.
[00:22:12] I think it's fun.
[00:22:13] Yeah, I also had a pretty good time with it.
[00:22:15] I mean, you know, the comparisons to Edward
[00:22:16] that I was kind of seeing
[00:22:17] make more sense to me having seen
[00:22:19] the horror of party beach.
[00:22:21] Okay, I haven't seen that.
[00:22:22] Which I think is more,
[00:22:23] that feels more like,
[00:22:24] okay, this is like in line
[00:22:25] with plan nine for matter of space
[00:22:26] and that kind of stuff,
[00:22:28] which I actually only saw plan nine in full last year.
[00:22:31] I watched it as part of a double feature,
[00:22:34] a mystery double feature at the Roxy,
[00:22:36] the Inn of Theater and House of Missile Montana
[00:22:37] where I also work.
[00:22:38] That was at Halloween, like a mystery trash vault
[00:22:40] where it was phantasm two
[00:22:42] and then planned nine for matter of space.
[00:22:44] Which was a great time.
[00:22:45] I had a really good time with that double feature.
[00:22:47] But yeah, I knew plan nine
[00:22:49] from just like, you know, cultural osmosis
[00:22:51] and you know, having seen clips of it
[00:22:53] here and there and having seen the movie Edward.
[00:22:55] It was sort of like I had watched the disaster artist
[00:22:57] and then watched the room where it's like,
[00:22:59] oh yeah.
[00:23:00] Now I can like,
[00:23:01] I've seen the recreations of these scenes.
[00:23:03] But I haven't actually like sat down
[00:23:05] and watched these scenes.
[00:23:07] And yeah, it's a really fun movie to watch with a crowd.
[00:23:10] Like there's something to be said about the films
[00:23:12] of Ed Wood and how like,
[00:23:13] even though they are like incompetent or whatever,
[00:23:15] there's still like, there's something there.
[00:23:17] Like there's something there that like connects
[00:23:19] with an audience in some way.
[00:23:20] What didn't we see Glenn or Glenda together?
[00:23:24] That was like a mystery science theater riffing thing.
[00:23:27] So we had like the Mads were there, right?
[00:23:29] It was Trace Balu and Frank Conniff
[00:23:31] and they did a live riffing on Glenn or Glenda,
[00:23:33] which was super funny.
[00:23:34] Had a great time watching it.
[00:23:35] I got to see Pull the String in, you know,
[00:23:37] in the theater, which was great.
[00:23:38] And then afterwards they were like,
[00:23:40] Hey, but like pretty wild that this movie is like
[00:23:42] surprisingly like pro trans people in 1953, right?
[00:23:46] Right, yeah.
[00:23:47] Wild.
[00:23:48] You know, there's like something to be said
[00:23:50] about the films of Ed Wood.
[00:23:51] And I think with the films of Del Tenney now
[00:23:53] having seen two out of the three or four that he made,
[00:23:55] you know, there's something to be said about like how effective
[00:23:58] they are in terms of capturing their audience too.
[00:24:00] I don't know.
[00:24:01] I think the horror party beach feels like a movie
[00:24:02] that would be a lot of fun to watch with the crowd.
[00:24:04] And I think the curse of living corpse
[00:24:06] has like some legitimately very good stuff in it.
[00:24:09] It's really fun stuff happening here.
[00:24:11] And part of that is a part of that,
[00:24:13] I think is just the fact that Roy Shatter is here
[00:24:15] and he's part of the ensemble
[00:24:16] and you get to see him kind of like doing his thing
[00:24:18] and he's really chewing the scenery
[00:24:20] in a really fun way.
[00:24:21] I think in this movie.
[00:24:22] But yeah, I think it also just,
[00:24:24] it's a very fun setup.
[00:24:25] It's a very fun premise, the idea that like, you know,
[00:24:28] their father dies, but he has a very rare condition
[00:24:30] where like he might actually just be alive
[00:24:33] but like can't communicate with people.
[00:24:35] And so, and he takes that out on his family in his will
[00:24:38] is like, if I'm not actually dead,
[00:24:40] I'll come back to kill you all
[00:24:42] in ways that like speak to your deepest darkest fears.
[00:24:47] That was my favorite thing like that,
[00:24:49] the will reading scene where he's like,
[00:24:51] and you, I will drown you.
[00:24:54] You're worst fear, you, you're afraid of fire.
[00:24:57] So I will burn you to death.
[00:24:58] That is like the most extreme thing ever.
[00:25:02] Just really trying to get into the psychology
[00:25:04] of every character, which is very fun.
[00:25:06] But I think the movie has a pretty good job
[00:25:08] of like laying out all these characters,
[00:25:11] kind of laying out who they all are
[00:25:12] and their relationships with each other
[00:25:13] and having them bounce off each other,
[00:25:15] especially during that will reading scene.
[00:25:17] I think it's 80 minutes
[00:25:18] and it does drag a little bit at certain points.
[00:25:21] But when it doesn't drag,
[00:25:23] there's a lot of really fun stuff.
[00:25:24] Like when they like the girls heads on the platter
[00:25:26] and they open that thing.
[00:25:27] It's really funny.
[00:25:28] I had a lot of fun watching it.
[00:25:31] So yeah, the curse living corpse, I'm pro.
[00:25:33] I'm pro living corpse.
[00:25:34] I'm in.
[00:25:35] Yeah.
[00:25:36] Yeah, I think there's such a fun cruelty
[00:25:40] to everybody in this movie
[00:25:42] where like the guy that the scene
[00:25:44] where the head is on the platter,
[00:25:46] the guy that finds it forces the like made to like,
[00:25:50] go back to work.
[00:25:51] Yeah.
[00:25:52] You're not, she's trying to quit the entire movie,
[00:25:55] which is a hilarious running bit actually.
[00:25:58] But then he puts the thing,
[00:26:00] like the cover back on it so that like his wife
[00:26:02] can come into this scene and then doesn't say anything
[00:26:05] and is just like sitting there smirking at her
[00:26:07] as she sits down and she's like,
[00:26:08] oh, let's for breakfast
[00:26:09] and takes the open to try
[00:26:10] and like lets her discover a separate head.
[00:26:13] And he's like, now listen to it's like,
[00:26:15] you're in this with me forever.
[00:26:18] Like it's so funny.
[00:26:22] Yes.
[00:26:23] It's Bruce that like discovers the head, right?
[00:26:25] Yeah.
[00:26:26] So the head comes up in the dumb waiter
[00:26:27] and he was the one that was out there
[00:26:29] the night before with her, before she gets killed.
[00:26:31] And it was a great moment when they're like sneaking
[00:26:33] out there because they're having an affair together
[00:26:35] and then he's like sneaking out there
[00:26:37] and he's like going to like,
[00:26:38] you know, observe something like about his father
[00:26:40] or whatever, like, you know, in the tomb
[00:26:42] and she's like, oh, it's so romantic sneaking.
[00:26:44] Why don't you kiss me?
[00:26:45] And he's like, no.
[00:26:49] I'm busy.
[00:26:51] I've got an inheritance to secure
[00:26:53] and it's so convoluted.
[00:26:54] It's so funny that his mother,
[00:26:56] his father gave his mother this like diamond pendant
[00:26:59] or whatever and she gives it back to him
[00:27:02] on puts it on his casket
[00:27:04] and that's what he's going back to retrieve.
[00:27:06] And yeah, he's just like, I gotta get this back
[00:27:08] is and then they like make out in the,
[00:27:10] in the like tomb or mortuary
[00:27:12] or whatever they, whatever they're in there.
[00:27:14] A mausoleum that's what I meant.
[00:27:15] Not my mortuary.
[00:27:16] They like kiss and he,
[00:27:17] she's like, let's go back to the house
[00:27:18] and he's like, it's probably best if we're not seen together.
[00:27:21] Stay here for five minutes
[00:27:23] and come in after me.
[00:27:25] And she's like with the casket
[00:27:26] and he's just like already out the door
[00:27:28] and the door is closed.
[00:27:30] She's like such a scumbag.
[00:27:32] It's so funny.
[00:27:33] Yeah.
[00:27:34] And then of course she gets killed
[00:27:35] by her greatest fear, which is decapitation, I guess.
[00:27:38] I guess the living corpse gets her.
[00:27:40] Yeah.
[00:27:41] The living corpse gets there.
[00:27:42] And so yeah, anytime the living corpse shows up
[00:27:43] like you see the living corpse like appear on screen
[00:27:45] and it is always just like, you know
[00:27:47] it's Delta any in like a cape like covering his face.
[00:27:50] Yeah.
[00:27:51] Like a scarf tied around his face.
[00:27:52] Yeah.
[00:27:53] I think you see his eyes
[00:27:54] but you don't see anything else right?
[00:27:55] Which, you know, the reveal at the end
[00:27:56] is that this was actually Roy Shider the whole time.
[00:27:59] Right.
[00:28:00] And so it is a little odd
[00:28:01] that like you don't have Roy Shider doing that.
[00:28:03] Yeah.
[00:28:04] But it throws you off.
[00:28:05] You never want to guess Roy Shider.
[00:28:07] It does throw you off.
[00:28:08] Yeah.
[00:28:09] So Roy Shider is ultimately the bad guy in the movie.
[00:28:11] He is the one who is killing off everybody
[00:28:13] in an effort to get the inheritance
[00:28:15] all to himself essentially, right?
[00:28:17] Yeah.
[00:28:18] As revenge he's like the like sickly
[00:28:20] like I think in the will
[00:28:22] he was like you like, I can't remember
[00:28:24] what insult they have for him.
[00:28:26] But he's like weak and he's always coughing
[00:28:28] and wheezing and stuff.
[00:28:29] So he will be suffocated
[00:28:30] as his untimely demise planned in the will.
[00:28:33] But yeah, it's like revenge
[00:28:35] for everyone always begging on him
[00:28:37] for being like he's not the oldest son either.
[00:28:39] He's just like weak and a louse and all this stuff.
[00:28:42] So he's going to kill everybody
[00:28:43] and steal the inheritance.
[00:28:44] I think my favorite detail about the entire movie.
[00:28:46] So Roy Shider is also an alcoholic throughout the whole thing.
[00:28:49] Yes.
[00:28:50] And he really plays into that.
[00:28:52] It really feels like every time you see him
[00:28:54] he has a drink in his hand.
[00:28:55] Yeah.
[00:28:56] Like no matter he's at the will reading
[00:28:57] he's drinking his hand.
[00:28:58] Like, you know, if he's observing a severed head
[00:29:00] he has a drink in his hand.
[00:29:01] Like every time you see him
[00:29:02] he has a drink in his hand
[00:29:04] and he's just like, oh yeah.
[00:29:05] Like he's slurring or all that kind of stuff.
[00:29:07] And then at the very end of the movie
[00:29:09] after Roy Shider has been killed
[00:29:10] the two cops open up his bottle of booze
[00:29:13] and discover that there's tea in there.
[00:29:16] And he was not an alcoholic at all
[00:29:18] and he was just pretending to be one
[00:29:20] to get away with the murder.
[00:29:21] To throw everybody off.
[00:29:22] To throw everybody off
[00:29:23] because it's like, oh, he's drunk.
[00:29:24] He can't be killing people.
[00:29:25] Yeah.
[00:29:26] It's so funny.
[00:29:28] And in the flash forward, you know,
[00:29:31] we normally say seeing, you know,
[00:29:33] the mindless of other performances and stuff.
[00:29:35] Yeah.
[00:29:36] The very famous drunk on the boat scene in Jaws
[00:29:39] precursor to this entire movie.
[00:29:41] We had to see some early Roy Shider drunk acting
[00:29:44] 10 years before Jaws.
[00:29:46] It's wild that this is only like 10 years before Jaws.
[00:29:48] It's insane.
[00:29:49] I think that really talks about just like,
[00:29:51] you know, there's entire books and histories
[00:29:53] and courses about this transition
[00:29:55] into like the new Hollywood.
[00:29:57] But to go from this
[00:29:59] and then, you know, Jaws, Sars or Marathon.
[00:30:02] Man, like that whole 70s run.
[00:30:04] Movies are so different in those 10 years.
[00:30:07] That's crazy.
[00:30:08] Yeah.
[00:30:09] And I mean, you know, they still made,
[00:30:10] there would still be like sci-fi or horror B movies
[00:30:12] in this time, but like not in this way.
[00:30:14] I don't know.
[00:30:15] This is a whole separate era of film that,
[00:30:18] you know, that we don't really get much anymore.
[00:30:20] It's a whole separate era and it's also
[00:30:23] a whole separate like cast of movies,
[00:30:26] like C-A-S-T-E of movies
[00:30:29] where, like we talked about,
[00:30:31] this is a movie specifically financed to be a double feature
[00:30:34] at a drive-in by the guys that own the drive-in.
[00:30:37] Like it is such a different caliber and like mindset.
[00:30:41] And these things always, you know, Roger Corbin,
[00:30:43] that's his whole...
[00:30:44] Right.
[00:30:45] Yeah.
[00:30:46] Career for however long he's been around.
[00:30:49] But just that this is what he's operating in
[00:30:51] and then he is able to get into the other big director,
[00:30:54] you know, Billy Friedkin and Spielberg
[00:30:56] and all those guys and stuff.
[00:30:57] So yeah, I don't know.
[00:30:58] It's just such a fascinating film business world
[00:31:01] is so different between the two eras
[00:31:03] and then the two levels of films that he's in, you know.
[00:31:05] Right.
[00:31:06] And it's really like not that much time between the movies.
[00:31:08] Like it's, you know, it's 10 years between this and Jaws,
[00:31:10] 11 years really, but still it's, you know,
[00:31:13] by the time you get out of the 70s,
[00:31:15] like Roy Shiders is not in that many movies in the 60s.
[00:31:17] He's in this.
[00:31:18] He does some TV work here and there.
[00:31:20] I think there's a TV movie that we're going to have
[00:31:22] to talk about maybe two of them if we can find them
[00:31:24] because they might be difficult to track down.
[00:31:26] Yeah, it might be lost to the sands of time.
[00:31:28] Might be, but there's like, you know,
[00:31:30] three or four movies in the 60s.
[00:31:32] Some of them are like, you know, he's an uncredited extra,
[00:31:34] that kind of thing, which that's the case with paper lion,
[00:31:37] which we'll have to talk about at some point,
[00:31:38] which is an Alan Alda movie.
[00:31:39] I'm impressed that like, oh,
[00:31:41] he got a pretty sizable role in this first movie.
[00:31:43] And then, oh, five movies later, he's in Clute.
[00:31:46] Yeah.
[00:31:47] And I guess is that the, is that the like springboard,
[00:31:48] I guess into the other movies?
[00:31:50] I think 71 is kind of the big Shider year
[00:31:52] because that's the year of Clute and the French connection.
[00:31:55] They're both in the same year.
[00:31:56] Got it.
[00:31:57] And I believe he gets an Oscar nomination
[00:31:58] for French connection as well in 71.
[00:32:00] Maybe.
[00:32:01] I'm pretty sure he does.
[00:32:02] Yeah, I just don't know.
[00:32:03] And I bet we could find, I know there's so many
[00:32:07] William Freakin entries and stuff
[00:32:09] about the casting of French connection.
[00:32:11] So I'm sure there's history of how he found,
[00:32:13] how he found Rochette or maybe he saw Chris Living Corpse.
[00:32:16] It was his, I really hope that's what I'm saying.
[00:32:19] It was like Martin Scorsese watching certain women
[00:32:22] and casting the last stone and killers of the flower moon.
[00:32:24] William Freakin saw Chris Living Corpse
[00:32:26] and was like this guy for French connection.
[00:32:28] That's the guy.
[00:32:30] I mean, sometimes that's how it happens sometimes, you know?
[00:32:32] That's the way it goes.
[00:32:33] It's probably wasn't that, but you never know.
[00:32:36] Yeah.
[00:32:37] I guess we'll find out in a couple weeks.
[00:32:39] Yeah.
[00:32:40] We'll try to do some research.
[00:32:41] By the way, Rochette or was in fact nominated
[00:32:42] for an Oscar for best supporting actor
[00:32:43] for French connection.
[00:32:44] I don't think he ever won an Oscar though.
[00:32:46] Did he Rochette or these are the things we'll learn
[00:32:48] over the course of this season.
[00:32:49] Yes, we'll learn together.
[00:32:51] Yes.
[00:32:52] I've been doing some Roy Schider research.
[00:32:53] I don't want to sound completely ill informed
[00:32:55] on the films of Roy Schider,
[00:32:56] but you know it's a journey that we're all going on together.
[00:32:58] Right, Mike?
[00:32:59] It's my job to be the audience surrogate
[00:33:01] that knows nothing.
[00:33:04] I'm supposed to be the expert around here.
[00:33:08] But all right.
[00:33:09] So Roy Schider in the curse Living Corpse, Mike,
[00:33:11] what did you think of his performance in here
[00:33:13] and what do you think of how it reflects upon going?
[00:33:16] Usually I would say how does this fit into the Schider roles
[00:33:18] we've seen so far,
[00:33:19] but this is the first one.
[00:33:21] So how do you think it reflects upon the career going forward?
[00:33:24] So yeah, I think Schider does a really great job
[00:33:26] at doing the fake drunk thing,
[00:33:28] the kind of like layabout useless sickly guy.
[00:33:31] And then to have that be all front
[00:33:34] and have it be revealed that he's this big,
[00:33:37] maniacal laughing evil villain guy
[00:33:40] at the end with Candice Huligas
[00:33:42] in the final scene where he chases her
[00:33:44] into the quicksand in the bog
[00:33:46] and with a cane sword and he rips the mask off
[00:33:49] and he's like, it's been me the whole time.
[00:33:52] It's so funny, you know,
[00:33:54] some Sam Reich channeling thing there from dropout.
[00:33:58] I've been here the whole time.
[00:34:00] So yeah, I don't know, it's fun.
[00:34:02] I think it's exciting.
[00:34:03] It's cool to watch the kind of humble beginnings
[00:34:05] from somebody like this
[00:34:06] like we were just talking about
[00:34:07] to see that kind of beat here very bottom.
[00:34:10] We're trying to make a quick buck turn around kind of movie
[00:34:14] and then to see him get catapulted into
[00:34:16] some of the biggest movies and best movies of all time.
[00:34:19] And it's fun to see him be cartoonish, I think,
[00:34:24] like I was talking about before.
[00:34:26] A lot of those new Hollywood movies are very like gritty
[00:34:28] and real and it's all about the realism and stuff.
[00:34:31] And I keep thinking about that famous anecdote
[00:34:33] that I'm sure we'll talk about in Marathon Man
[00:34:35] or from Marathon Man where Dustin Hoffman,
[00:34:38] allegedly I think, I don't know if this is like a real thing
[00:34:41] but is like I think bragging to Lawrence Olivier
[00:34:44] or something about like staying up all night
[00:34:46] to be the method and like, oh my God,
[00:34:48] I'm so to be as desperate and tired as my character.
[00:34:50] It was like a scene in the movie where like
[00:34:52] his character had been up all night
[00:34:53] and he like actually stayed up all night
[00:34:55] and was like, ah man, I haven't slept in like 48 hours.
[00:34:58] Here we go.
[00:34:59] Yeah.
[00:35:00] And Lawrence Olivier just asked him
[00:35:01] have you ever thought about trying acting?
[00:35:03] It's just incredible.
[00:35:05] And I feel like Roy Shrider fits in between
[00:35:07] both of those from what I know.
[00:35:09] So I don't know, like, you know, he's in that era
[00:35:11] of like method acting becoming a thing.
[00:35:14] Yeah.
[00:35:15] But he's also not that kind of like regal, dignified,
[00:35:18] like Shakespearean stage actor guy as far as I know,
[00:35:20] although he did have a theater background.
[00:35:22] Sure.
[00:35:23] But I think that does track.
[00:35:25] That like makes sense for him to be like
[00:35:26] kind of in between both worlds, right?
[00:35:28] Yeah.
[00:35:29] As far as I know or sort of my assumption about him.
[00:35:31] So I'll be interested in the rest of the season
[00:35:33] to track that kind of things and see how many were like
[00:35:36] where he, the knobs, the dials on his performances,
[00:35:39] like how cartoonish or Method E or whatever does he get.
[00:35:43] And this definitely falls more into the cartoonish side.
[00:35:46] And it's very fun when he's giving his big monologue
[00:35:48] explaining his plan and why he,
[00:35:50] why do you all must die kind of thing is very fun.
[00:35:53] So yeah.
[00:35:54] Yeah.
[00:35:55] He's super fun in this movie.
[00:35:56] I mean, it is, you know,
[00:35:57] it is kind of like the thing about this movie.
[00:35:59] If you look through like Bladder Box reviews,
[00:36:00] which will go through those in a little bit.
[00:36:02] You know, when you look through those reviews,
[00:36:03] like almost all of them are like,
[00:36:04] yeah, I watched this because it's Roy Shatter's first film.
[00:36:06] Like that's the thing.
[00:36:07] And it is very fun to see him in this movie
[00:36:09] and for him to have a fairly substantial role.
[00:36:12] Like he is the main bad guy.
[00:36:14] And he's like there throughout the entire movie.
[00:36:16] He's a big part of the ensemble.
[00:36:17] And that's usually not the case for an actor's first movie.
[00:36:21] And especially like, you know,
[00:36:22] over the course of this podcast,
[00:36:23] you know, Nicholas Cage's first like actual movie
[00:36:25] was Fast Times, Rich Money High.
[00:36:27] He's in the background.
[00:36:28] Jeff Goldman's first movie is Death Wish.
[00:36:30] Pretty important role.
[00:36:31] But again, he's only in it for about a minute and a half.
[00:36:33] Like he's in a very short amount of that movie.
[00:36:36] Then Michelle Yeo's first role, the owl versus bombo.
[00:36:38] We talked about it then like,
[00:36:40] oh, this is a surprisingly big supporting role,
[00:36:42] but it is still like a smallish role
[00:36:44] within the context of the movie.
[00:36:46] And Roy Shatter, he's here.
[00:36:47] He's front and center.
[00:36:48] He's doing his thing in the first living corpse.
[00:36:50] I was a little nervous at the very beginning
[00:36:52] just during like the opening credit sequence
[00:36:54] where it's like the funeral march or whatever,
[00:36:57] where they're going to the estate for the father
[00:37:01] to lay in rest and stuff.
[00:37:02] And like he's just like one of the guys in the crowd.
[00:37:04] I think he's a Paul Bearer for the casket and stuff,
[00:37:06] but like he's just like one of the people
[00:37:08] in the giant crowd of people.
[00:37:09] And I was like, oh no,
[00:37:11] it's just going to be one of these things.
[00:37:12] So like this is it.
[00:37:14] But no, yeah, it turns out he's a real, real character.
[00:37:18] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:37:19] And yeah, he really kills it.
[00:37:20] I mean, he is literally people through that movie.
[00:37:23] But yeah, he's super fun once that reveal happens,
[00:37:26] once he pulls the mask off and it's Roy Shatter
[00:37:27] and he's pulling Candacelligas into the bog.
[00:37:30] He ends up getting into a fight or somebody else shows up, right?
[00:37:32] Robert.
[00:37:33] Yeah, one of the cousins or somebody he shows up.
[00:37:37] Yeah, one of the other guys in the family shows up
[00:37:39] and they fight and then Robert kind of overpowers him
[00:37:41] and then he sinks into the bog Roy Shatter.
[00:37:44] That's how he dies, which, you know,
[00:37:47] he was told he would suffocate and in fact he did.
[00:37:50] He kind of drowned lack of oxygen, you know.
[00:37:53] Yeah, exactly.
[00:37:54] It all kind of makes sense.
[00:37:56] But yeah, and so that is how his character leaves the movie
[00:38:00] and then the movie ends with the cops discovering
[00:38:02] the booze was actually tea and then the credits start rolling.
[00:38:05] But they all kind of just like chuckle.
[00:38:07] The cops are so useless in this movie.
[00:38:09] This movie says ACAV and that's hilarious.
[00:38:11] That's so funny.
[00:38:12] Yeah, and it's a very funny moment when the movie
[00:38:14] just like ends with the two of them being like,
[00:38:16] huh man, what a crazy turn of events.
[00:38:18] Let's open up that bottle of booze.
[00:38:20] Yeah, I mean, I even loved the first time the cops show up
[00:38:23] when it's like the detective guy and he's just like,
[00:38:26] well, there's nothing really that constitutes a crime
[00:38:28] has happened yet.
[00:38:29] Right?
[00:38:30] So I forget, no, I don't think anybody has died.
[00:38:32] Right.
[00:38:33] They discovered the corpse is missing.
[00:38:35] They go back and open the casket and it's gone.
[00:38:37] Which how would that not be a crime?
[00:38:39] And somebody says, but somebody stole a corpse
[00:38:41] and he's like, hmm, I guess that is a crime.
[00:38:43] He just like has no idea.
[00:38:45] It's so funny.
[00:38:47] And then you have my favorite scene in the movie
[00:38:50] probably is Roy Shiter getting the Constable drunk.
[00:38:53] I forget what he says.
[00:38:54] He's like, oh, don't mind me.
[00:38:55] You're going to have a drink or whatever.
[00:38:56] And the Constable is like, you know, it is customary
[00:38:59] to make sure it's not been tampered with.
[00:39:01] So can I try?
[00:39:02] Like, you know, he's like, oh, make sure it's not
[00:39:04] poison for you.
[00:39:05] And yeah, they just get drunk and tell stories
[00:39:07] and make sure that he has a giant hangover the next day
[00:39:09] like the cop so that he can pull off his murders.
[00:39:12] Yep.
[00:39:13] It's good stuff.
[00:39:14] It is good stuff.
[00:39:15] Yeah.
[00:39:16] Any other random scenes in Curse of the Living Corpse
[00:39:18] do you want to give a shout out to Mike?
[00:39:19] Anything that stands out to you?
[00:39:20] I did love the one guy.
[00:39:22] Is it Bruce, I think is the main is like the oldest brother.
[00:39:25] He's kind of looks like Clark Gable from Gone with the Wind.
[00:39:28] Oh yeah.
[00:39:29] It's a mustache, right?
[00:39:30] And all that stuff.
[00:39:31] That guy is just like smashing all the ladies.
[00:39:33] It's so like they're all in an affair with him.
[00:39:36] Yes.
[00:39:37] And they're all like, oh, I could I possibly,
[00:39:39] I couldn't possibly do this.
[00:39:40] Okay, fine.
[00:39:41] Like, yes, like so funny.
[00:39:42] That's great.
[00:39:43] There's the moment after, after Leti has died after it,
[00:39:47] like that whole thing and he's trying to get breakfast from her.
[00:39:50] Like he's like, oh, where is she?
[00:39:52] And he like slams his fist in the table like,
[00:39:54] she knows I like my breakfast in the morning.
[00:39:57] Dying laughing.
[00:39:58] So funny.
[00:39:59] Which is great.
[00:40:00] Then of course her head comes up in the dumb waiter and yeah,
[00:40:03] that's great too.
[00:40:04] But then I think,
[00:40:05] I think he has a moment with the person that is the,
[00:40:09] the Roy Shiter's wife because he like passes out drunk or
[00:40:12] whatever in the bag.
[00:40:13] Okay.
[00:40:14] And then he goes downstairs all perfumed up and he,
[00:40:17] and they have this like, you know, that, that classic like taught
[00:40:21] in your window kind of sexy flirting thing where they can't
[00:40:24] actually say what they want to say and stuff.
[00:40:26] But it's just like so put on,
[00:40:28] but like in a fun way.
[00:40:29] I don't know.
[00:40:30] It's good stuff.
[00:40:31] Yeah.
[00:40:32] There's also, I mean,
[00:40:33] just a bunch of fun kills in the movie.
[00:40:34] I mean,
[00:40:35] So you have,
[00:40:36] I mean we mentioned the head and the platter.
[00:40:37] I think it's probably the standout really.
[00:40:39] Cause that's just a fun reveal when that happens.
[00:40:41] But Bruce gets killed.
[00:40:43] How does Bruce die again?
[00:40:44] Is Bruce the one that gets his face all sliced up
[00:40:46] cause he's so vain?
[00:40:47] Yes.
[00:40:48] Yeah.
[00:40:49] Bruce is maimed in the face by the mass killer who then
[00:40:51] drags him to his death behind a horse.
[00:40:53] Yeah.
[00:40:54] I forgot about that.
[00:40:55] Yeah.
[00:40:56] Which is fun.
[00:40:57] But then also there's the one person who's afraid of fire
[00:40:58] and then she's like on the bed and gets tied to it.
[00:41:00] And the bed gets set on fire.
[00:41:01] That was gnarly.
[00:41:02] It also very funny that it's like only that bedroom
[00:41:05] gets lit on fire.
[00:41:06] Like, you know,
[00:41:07] think about this old manor house and you light something
[00:41:09] on fire.
[00:41:10] Yeah.
[00:41:11] Well, it was 1890.
[00:41:12] It might have been a new manor.
[00:41:13] That's a good point.
[00:41:14] Yeah, you're right.
[00:41:15] But still, I mean, it was still like, you know,
[00:41:16] the Victoria, like it was probably all made of wood.
[00:41:18] It would have lit up like really fast.
[00:41:20] But yeah, the bed gets set on fire with her tied to it
[00:41:23] and she dies.
[00:41:24] There's Seth who is like the man servant who gets
[00:41:26] like trapped in the tomb with the corpse.
[00:41:29] Right?
[00:41:30] Yes.
[00:41:31] Yes.
[00:41:32] I was pretty shocked they like show the bodies
[00:41:35] and stuff.
[00:41:36] Like you see the head on the platter.
[00:41:37] Yeah.
[00:41:38] They show you Bruce's sliced up face.
[00:41:39] And I mean, you know, it's 1964 low budget thing,
[00:41:42] but they show you the burnt body on the bed.
[00:41:44] Like I was like, whoa, this is actually kind of intense
[00:41:46] for 1964, you know?
[00:41:48] Yeah.
[00:41:49] There's the one girl.
[00:41:50] I think it's Shire's wife, maybe who is in the bathtub
[00:41:52] and she gets strangled because she was afraid of drowning.
[00:41:54] Right.
[00:41:55] He holds her underwater.
[00:41:56] And then that's when Candice Hilo-Goss's character
[00:41:58] like interrupts him killing her and he chases her
[00:42:00] into the bog.
[00:42:01] Yeah.
[00:42:02] Yes.
[00:42:03] And then Candice Hilo-Goss ultimately,
[00:42:04] she survives, which is yes.
[00:42:06] She's the one married or dating the guy that shows up.
[00:42:09] Roberts.
[00:42:10] Yeah.
[00:42:11] I think that's correct.
[00:42:12] Or there's James Benson, who is the nephew
[00:42:14] and then she's Deborah Benson.
[00:42:16] Oh, okay.
[00:42:17] So I guess, so she's married to him, I think.
[00:42:19] I think you're right.
[00:42:20] Yeah.
[00:42:21] How did James Benson die?
[00:42:22] There's so many characters in this movie.
[00:42:23] There's a lot of people and they all die.
[00:42:24] Yeah.
[00:42:25] Yeah.
[00:42:26] They all die in various ways.
[00:42:27] I'm not seeing how James died, but it was fun.
[00:42:29] I had a fun time watching the Curse of the Living Corpse,
[00:42:32] which is a difficult title to say.
[00:42:35] Yeah.
[00:42:36] And I will say The Horror of Party Beach also,
[00:42:38] again, a fun time.
[00:42:40] I enjoyed this movie more than Horror of Party Beach.
[00:42:43] I think this one works better as a movie.
[00:42:45] Okay.
[00:42:46] But The Horror of Party Beach, if I had the MSC 3K episode,
[00:42:48] it probably would have jumped up.
[00:42:50] It probably would have increased a little bit.
[00:42:52] It seems like they were like, we got this suit.
[00:42:54] How do we make a movie?
[00:42:56] Yeah.
[00:42:57] That is truly what it is.
[00:42:58] And the first half hour of Horror of Party Beach
[00:43:01] is just watching teenagers on the beach partying
[00:43:04] and jam into this band.
[00:43:05] It's like a 1950s doo-wop band, and they're killing it.
[00:43:09] They're great.
[00:43:10] They play a song called The Zombie Stomp,
[00:43:13] and it's a banger.
[00:43:14] It's really good.
[00:43:15] And then these sea creatures show up
[00:43:17] that have been mutated by radioactivity,
[00:43:19] and they kill a teenager,
[00:43:20] and then 20 minutes later,
[00:43:21] they kill a couple more teenagers.
[00:43:23] There's a moment when there's a news report going on,
[00:43:28] and there was a report of like, oh yes,
[00:43:30] and 20 teenagers and a sleepover were all killed
[00:43:33] by these things.
[00:43:36] One survivor had made it.
[00:43:40] And they got a good laugh out of me.
[00:43:42] That was very funny.
[00:43:43] That seems like a fun trash-fault kind of movie.
[00:43:46] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:43:47] I think if I had watched it with the crowd,
[00:43:49] it would have been a really good time.
[00:43:51] And I think this one also
[00:43:52] would have been a really fun time to watch in a theater too.
[00:43:54] We'll just have to program some at the Roxy.
[00:43:56] My goal is to get the films of DelTennie
[00:44:00] on the Roxy screen sometime in 2024.
[00:44:02] Tennie Feliza, I can't wait.
[00:44:05] Any other scenes in this movie that stand out to you, Mike,
[00:44:07] or should we start wrapping this up?
[00:44:08] Move on to Letterbox Reviews.
[00:44:09] No, I think we get to Letterbox Reviews.
[00:44:11] It's a pretty slight movie, all things considered.
[00:44:14] Yes, I agree with that.
[00:44:16] But yeah, it's a very fun start
[00:44:18] to our Rory Shider season, I think.
[00:44:20] Agreed, yeah.
[00:44:21] So it's a good, Bode's Will.
[00:44:22] Yes, yeah, absolutely.
[00:44:23] So got a few Letterbox Reviews here
[00:44:25] for the Curse of the Living Corpse.
[00:44:27] And here we go.
[00:44:28] It's a review from Carl, which is three stars.
[00:44:30] Watch this primarily to see
[00:44:32] Rory Shider's feature film debut.
[00:44:34] It also qualifies for spooky season.
[00:44:36] The setup slash premise is to die for
[00:44:38] a wealthy bastard dies.
[00:44:40] His hateful family salivate over the inheritance.
[00:44:42] Too bad for them.
[00:44:43] Daddy has an intense fear of being buried alive.
[00:44:45] Me too.
[00:44:46] The lawyer instructs them
[00:44:48] that for one year they must babysit his dead corpse.
[00:44:51] All are given specific instructions.
[00:44:53] If they fail, they will all meet grisly death
[00:44:55] space in their deepest fears, drowning, fire, etc.
[00:44:58] Once the slashing begins, there's a who done it element.
[00:45:00] Is it Daddy who isn't really dead?
[00:45:02] Is it the lawyer who will inherit everything
[00:45:04] if the beneficiary should die?
[00:45:06] Is it one or more of the hateful spawn Daddy
[00:45:08] wrought into this bitter world?
[00:45:09] Or maybe just maybe it's a demon child from hell.
[00:45:12] As deliciously sinister as this might sound,
[00:45:14] the execution is unfortunately not up to par.
[00:45:17] But Rory Shider impresses in his debut
[00:45:19] as a slimy spoiled manchild.
[00:45:21] Yeah, I think the one detail we forgot too
[00:45:23] when we were talking about that scene with the will reading
[00:45:26] is they have already all failed their challenges.
[00:45:29] They've all have conditions they have to meet
[00:45:32] to not die.
[00:45:34] And before the movie has already started,
[00:45:36] they've all failed.
[00:45:37] Yes, which is hilarious.
[00:45:39] But also one of those things where it's like,
[00:45:41] maybe we wait until after the will reading
[00:45:43] before we find that out.
[00:45:45] Before we start the clock on that one.
[00:45:47] Yeah, right.
[00:45:49] But yeah, here you go.
[00:45:51] Here's a review from Russian, which is a two and a half star
[00:45:53] review.
[00:45:54] Good thing no one was required to watch this film in the will.
[00:45:57] Walka walka.
[00:45:59] Yay.
[00:46:00] Yay.
[00:46:02] Here's a review from Bird with no rating.
[00:46:05] Totally blind pick.
[00:46:07] 1960s horror really was doing its own thing.
[00:46:09] A lot of period pieces and this is no exception.
[00:46:12] Love a snippy and a conditional reading of a will.
[00:46:14] Also, the terms of this will are fucking hilarious.
[00:46:18] I love this premise.
[00:46:19] This family fucking sucks.
[00:46:21] This was a very macabre, spooky mystery.
[00:46:24] And I loved spending the watch trying to guess the ending.
[00:46:26] Good fun.
[00:46:27] You know what it also reminded me of too?
[00:46:29] Just in general, the way the living corpse is portrayed
[00:46:32] and stuff is like Jialo stuff.
[00:46:34] Like obviously not the colors and stuff,
[00:46:36] but all the black leather gloves and the mask
[00:46:38] and the low hats.
[00:46:40] All you see is the eyes and all these things.
[00:46:42] I was like, well, there's a lot of aesthetic similarities
[00:46:45] there.
[00:46:46] I didn't include this review, but there was one I saw
[00:46:48] that compared this movie to blood and black lace
[00:46:51] in terms of the way the killer acts in the movie
[00:46:53] and all that kind of stuff, which was a good comparison.
[00:46:56] Absolutely.
[00:46:57] I got one last review here from Hayden comes alive.
[00:46:59] This is with no rating.
[00:47:01] The movie doesn't live up to the amazing setup
[00:47:03] more often than not.
[00:47:04] I love these bitchy family must follow the will
[00:47:06] left by the rich elder in order to get their
[00:47:08] inheritance stories.
[00:47:09] And seeing Roy Shider as such a shitty guy
[00:47:11] is pretty great.
[00:47:12] Plus, this is the only other film of here
[00:47:14] in some carnival of souls.
[00:47:16] Lovely Candice Hilligoss.
[00:47:17] While it's slugs a bit in the middle,
[00:47:19] it's definitely worth a watch if you're pulling an all
[00:47:21] nighter and you've seen enough Corman and Castle.
[00:47:23] Yeah.
[00:47:24] It's right out right in there with the Corman
[00:47:26] and Castle crew for sure.
[00:47:27] Yeah.
[00:47:28] And that's about right.
[00:47:29] Like if you've seen all the Corman movies,
[00:47:31] if you've seen all the William Castle movies,
[00:47:33] the curse of living corpse is the next step that
[00:47:35] that's waiting for you.
[00:47:36] That feels right.
[00:47:37] All right.
[00:47:38] Any other final thoughts before I wrap this up?
[00:47:40] No, I think I think we're very looking forward
[00:47:42] to seeing you guys in this is a good start
[00:47:43] like we talked about.
[00:47:44] And it'll be nice to at least have one touch point
[00:47:49] that's a pretty substantial role in the early
[00:47:51] career, like you mentioned before.
[00:47:53] There's a lot of usually, you know,
[00:47:55] single line how many movies was Goldblum
[00:47:58] like Streetpunk 3 in before?
[00:48:01] So it's cool to see that.
[00:48:03] And I feel like we're right.
[00:48:05] The next couple might dip down into that
[00:48:06] like uncredited cavio.
[00:48:08] It does seem like that.
[00:48:09] Yeah.
[00:48:10] Just kind of looking at the,
[00:48:11] the head, but you know, that's how we discover
[00:48:13] movies like Special Delivery, which we loved.
[00:48:15] True.
[00:48:16] That's a good point.
[00:48:17] There's that.
[00:48:18] Yeah.
[00:48:19] And to any new fans who might be joining in
[00:48:20] because we're talking about Roy Scheider,
[00:48:22] welcome.
[00:48:23] Yeah.
[00:48:24] Hope we didn't turn you off with 10 minutes
[00:48:25] of Pink Panther talk.
[00:48:26] We promise air quotes not to do that again.
[00:48:30] Yeah.
[00:48:31] Promise in quotation marks for sure.
[00:48:33] Yes.
[00:48:34] But all right, Mike D,
[00:48:35] where can we find you online this week?
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[00:49:37] i-6, which Mike D is looking to me blankly
[00:49:39] as if he has not found this one yet.
[00:49:41] I haven't, I don't remember this title.
[00:49:44] Okay.
[00:49:45] It is a TV movie about Galileo.
[00:49:48] Incredible.
[00:49:49] So yeah, if we can find it,
[00:49:50] I always kind of do an so poking around and stuff
[00:49:52] thinking maybe it's on YouTube, it's not.
[00:49:54] There's like an eight minute clip of it on YouTube
[00:49:56] but other than that, like not the full thing.
[00:49:58] So yeah, if we can find Lamp at midnight,
[00:50:00] that's what we're going with.
[00:50:01] If not, I'm not going to sweat it too much.
[00:50:04] It's 1968's Paper Lion
[00:50:05] Paper Lion will be the next one, the Alan Aldo one.
[00:50:08] Got it.
[00:50:09] Yeah, can't wait for us to be Paper Lion stands
[00:50:12] for the rest of the season.
[00:50:15] That would be great.
[00:50:16] I would love nothing more than to love Paper Lion.
[00:50:18] Absolutely.
[00:50:19] And remember that we are putting out bonus episodes
[00:50:22] of the Complete Works.
[00:50:24] Basically we used to do a podcast
[00:50:25] called Micah and Micah Go To The Movies.
[00:50:26] That has now been folded in
[00:50:28] as sort of complete works bonuses.
[00:50:30] So every other week you're gonna get
[00:50:31] like an extra little bit from Micah and Mic here
[00:50:34] on Complete Works.
[00:50:35] Yes, some non-Roy Shiter specific content coming at you.
[00:50:39] Yes, we'll talk about new movies.
[00:50:41] We'll just make each other watch movies,
[00:50:43] general discussions, ranked lists,
[00:50:44] all the kind of cool stuff,
[00:50:45] all the stuff that we used to do
[00:50:46] in Micah Go To The Movies.
[00:50:47] We're kind of folding it into over here
[00:50:49] and seeing how that works out.
[00:50:51] So yeah, it's an experiment.
[00:50:53] We're gonna see how it goes.
[00:50:55] Do it live?
[00:50:56] Yeah, exactly.
[00:50:57] Thanks so much for listening guys.
[00:50:58] And remember to always Royed between the lines.
[00:51:03] That's what we're doing.
[00:51:04] I couldn't think of anything else.
[00:51:06] I'm open to workshopping that one.
[00:51:08] I think Roy Boy can stay.
[00:51:09] I think this line.
[00:51:10] 100%, I mean for hashtag Roy Boy for sure.
[00:51:12] This last line needs to be workshopped for sure.
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[00:51:22] for season four.
[00:51:23] Yes.