DIE HARD (1988) (Guests: Kyle Cullen, Producer Collin)

[00:00:02] Let's get together, talk about the movies that we saw this week. We'll have discussions, talk film news, we'll laugh a lot and act like geeks. Sometimes we'll have a guest or two, sometimes it's just the two of us. Let's crack some jokes and tell some folks to come along and hang with us!

[00:00:13] Mike and...

[00:00:28] Come out to New York, we'll record a podcast, have a few laughs. It's Mike and I go to the movies. I'm Mike Smith and joining me as always is someone who if this is his idea of Christmas, I gotta be here for New Year's.

[00:00:41] Mike DiCrecio.

[00:00:42] How you doing, Mike?

[00:00:43] I'm doing great. I'm sitting next to you on a couch.

[00:00:45] Yes!

[00:00:45] It's happening.

[00:00:46] It is the annual in-person podcast. I'm glad that we ended up getting to do this again.

[00:00:50] Yeah, it all worked out. We got the boys back.

[00:00:52] Yes, yeah. A good portion of the boys are back.

[00:00:54] Some of the boys.

[00:00:55] Some of the boys are back.

[00:00:57] Some of the boys are back in town.

[00:00:58] Yes, some of the boys are indeed back in town. Also joining us is someone who was always partial to Roy Rogers himself, Producer Collin. Welcome back to the podcast.

[00:01:07] Hey, thanks for having me back. I'm really happy that Mike got to be Argyle today.

[00:01:10] Yeah.

[00:01:11] My dream is finally realized.

[00:01:12] Yes, that is kind of the ideal job. I think it's to be the limo driver underneath a terrorist attack.

[00:01:19] Who gets to kind of just wait it all out.

[00:01:21] He's just chilling.

[00:01:22] Yeah, he's hanging out.

[00:01:24] The best job.

[00:01:27] And then also joining us today is someone who had never seen Die Hard before today. So welcome to the party, pal.

[00:01:34] Kyle Cullen. Welcome back to the podcast.

[00:01:37] Yippee-ki-yay, mother finger.

[00:01:38] Hey.

[00:01:39] Mr. Falcon, please.

[00:01:41] Oh, okay.

[00:01:43] Yeah, Kyle. I mean, so today on the podcast, I'm addressing this to you, but really it's to everyone. Today we're talking about Die Hard for this in-person podcast.

[00:01:51] So normally the annual in-person podcast that we've been doing, we try to talk about whatever the big new release is for like the holiday season.

[00:02:00] Past episodes have included Star Wars Rise of Skywalker, Wonder Woman 1984, which was not in person, but we got everybody together because that was 2020.

[00:02:08] It was a Zoom thing.

[00:02:09] Spider-Man No Way Home was one of them. Avatar 2. Last year we talked about Godzilla minus one. And this year, a movie Fox. Yeah.

[00:02:18] Minus one rules. Probably, probably the best movie out of all the ones that I just listed.

[00:02:23] We talked about that too today.

[00:02:27] We definitely could.

[00:02:30] What are we going to say, Mike?

[00:02:31] I was going to say, if you want to hear us say this movie Fox for two and a half hours, listen to last, last year's episode.

[00:02:35] Also, that's all we said. Also listen to this one.

[00:02:38] Yeah.

[00:02:39] A large portion of this episode. Yes.

[00:02:41] So normally, yeah, normally the end of year in-person episode is a like big blockbuster.

[00:02:46] We're all excited about. And this year, there just wasn't one that we could really like easily do.

[00:02:52] I think me and Mike were kind of like trying to angle towards doing a Nosferatu episode.

[00:02:56] I would have done that. I would have been in.

[00:02:57] You would have done that, Kyle? Yeah, I would have done that.

[00:02:59] You're not a horror guy.

[00:03:00] I'm not a horror guy, but I really liked, um, was it the Northman was his last movie?

[00:03:04] Yes. Yeah. I really liked that. That's how big Kyle vibes.

[00:03:07] No, no, no, no.

[00:03:08] Nosferatu is like a classic and I've seen the original.

[00:03:11] You've seen the silent film, silent film.

[00:03:13] I've watched that in my parents' van.

[00:03:15] Really? Yeah. We had a DVD player and my brother's like, I brought this movie.

[00:03:19] We're going to watch this. So me and him watch it.

[00:03:21] My sisters did whatever the fuck they were doing. How old were you?

[00:03:24] Yeah. A child. I was young. I didn't like it. I watched it. I didn't like it.

[00:03:30] It was a silent movie. It was all yellow before the SpongeBob episode with Nosferatu in it.

[00:03:33] Um, you know what? I don't think I did. Okay. So I think I saw the SpongeBob episode first.

[00:03:39] I'm like, this is, this is where the guy comes from. This is what it is.

[00:03:42] You were one of like three children who got that joke in SpongeBob.

[00:03:44] Yeah. It's a generation of people who were introduced to Nosferatu through SpongeBob Square

[00:03:49] fans. But yeah, so we wanted to do, we were kind of angling to do a Nosferatu episode for

[00:03:54] the end of the year. Uh, and the timing just didn't quite work out like for when I was

[00:03:58] going to be back and all that stuff. Cause it comes out on Christmas day.

[00:04:00] I'm leaving on the 29th. It just didn't seem like it was going to be feasible, which is

[00:04:05] unfortunate. Uh, the other options, uh, were Mufasa, the lion King, uh, which, you know, the

[00:04:11] new film from acclaimed filmmaker, Barry Jenkins, director of moonlight. Um, but a movie that I

[00:04:17] don't think any of us really care about too much. Um, did anyone, uh, we, I think we reviewed

[00:04:22] the 2019 lion King, right? Yeah. We definitely did an episode on it back in the day. Yeah. And,

[00:04:26] uh, we both, we were both kind of in agreement like this sucks. This is not, like, what was the

[00:04:29] point? This is not very good. Uh, and so yeah, Mufasa, I might see it just because it's a Barry

[00:04:35] Jenkins joint. I have heard they seem to have solved the lack of facial emotions in lion King.

[00:04:42] Interesting. In Mufasa. But I don't think they solved the make a good movie. Yeah. That's kind

[00:04:46] of what I've been hearing. That's the bigger hurdle. Yeah. Uh, so that was certainly an option,

[00:04:50] uh, you know, but we decided not to do that. Uh, one of the other big options was a son of the

[00:04:55] hedgehog three, uh, which I, so I vetoed that one pretty quickly partially because I, I'm not against

[00:05:02] watching son of the hedgehog three, but I have not seen the first two huge missed opportunity.

[00:05:06] And I really don't want to go out of my way to watch, uh, but Colin, you made my D watch the

[00:05:12] first two. I did. I may have watched the first one. First one. Did you watch it? I don't,

[00:05:15] I thought we won twice and we watched the second one on the podcast. I don't remember. I know

[00:05:19] we at least did the first one. This is normally where I would tell you to check the minutes.

[00:05:23] Oh man, I can't check the minutes of my own episodes. You're here. Yeah. We might've done

[00:05:28] the second one. You definitely did one. Yeah, we definitely did one. I think we talked about

[00:05:31] doing the second one, but you didn't have time to watch it. That sounds right. But it sounds

[00:05:35] like you have watched it. I have seen it. So I don't know why I would have seen it.

[00:05:38] Just watch it on your own. Yeah. I think you probably watched it. You probably watched

[00:05:41] it on a plane or something. It sounds actually, yeah, I think that might be right. So that's my,

[00:05:45] but I watched the first 10 minutes of the first time of the hedgehog on a plane and then fell asleep. Uh,

[00:05:49] and have not gone back. You should though. It's a lot of fun. You know, here's the thing. I keep

[00:05:55] hearing sound of the hedgehog three is great. Uh, it's awesome. Keanu. It's got Keanu leaves

[00:06:00] shadow shadows there. He has a gun. He has a motorcycle. That's so cool. He's cool, dude.

[00:06:05] That's so fucking cool. He's a, he's a black and red hedgehog. The movie is awesome. And Jim

[00:06:10] Carey dances with himself. It's honestly great way to spend an hour and 49 minutes. Nice. So you saw it

[00:06:15] this weekend, right? I saw it opening day. Nice. And so my local AMC had two damn near sold out

[00:06:21] shows. Yeah. Sonic the Hedgehog three on Friday. It's running laps around Mufasa,

[00:06:25] which literally running because Sonic the Hedgehog is very fast. Yeah.

[00:06:29] Hey everybody. Mike made a pun.

[00:06:31] Zing.

[00:06:33] Uh, yeah, no, it's, it's been crushing at the box office and it seems like a franchise that is

[00:06:39] growing in popularity with every movie. Uh, and at some point, yeah, I, I might watch the Sonics.

[00:06:45] I'm it's keeping Jim Carrey out of retirement. That's true. That's true. Yeah. Uh, I'm trying to

[00:06:49] put it out there just to make Mike do this eventually. Cause he, he will get to it. I'm not,

[00:06:53] I don't doubt this next, uh, complete work season. Keanu. We've talked about Keanu. Um,

[00:06:58] yeah, that was a definitely, I think season two, we were like, I think before we were deciding like,

[00:07:03] oh, we're going to put it up to the audience and see what they think. I think originally we were

[00:07:07] like, we're doing Keanu. It's going to happen. Uh, but then another, uh, Patrick Willems is a,

[00:07:12] you know, a much well-morned, much more well-known internet personality than we are. Uh, he had a

[00:07:17] podcast called can't get enough of Keanu, uh, where they were doing exactly that. They were watching

[00:07:22] all of Keanu Reeves's movies and it kind of felt like, well, we're not going to be able to compete

[00:07:25] with that. Can't do it at the same time. Yeah. That'd be putting like a small hat on top of a

[00:07:29] big hat. Yes. Pointless. Uh, but also still kind of cute. It's true. I mean, it would be great to

[00:07:37] go through the Keanu Reeves filmography. There's so many, uh, incredible bangers. Yeah. So much,

[00:07:41] so much good stuff in there. Uh, but alas, uh, it doesn't seem like it's in the cards. You never

[00:07:46] know. That's fair. But yeah, if you, the listener wishes us to talk about the films of

[00:07:51] Keanu Reeves after we finished Roy Scheider, uh, and make us do an actor who is not dead anymore.

[00:07:58] All right. People like, no, yeah. Dead people only. Yes. Um, yeah. So son of the hedgehog three

[00:08:06] Colin pro. Yeah. Awesome. A ton of fun. High recommend. If you like, like Sonic at all, just go

[00:08:12] see it. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So sound of the hedgehog three was an option. We decided not

[00:08:17] to do that one. Uh, there was also, I mean, the other kind of big ish, the other, the other one

[00:08:21] that was like sort of positioned as an end of holiday, like year blockbuster, uh, is Craven

[00:08:26] the Hunter, which, you know, uh, no, thanks. Yeah. I think we were all just like, well, no,

[00:08:34] we're not going to do that. However, Kyle and I did go see Craven the Hunter the other day.

[00:08:38] Yeah, we did. Uh, and, uh, went to the Roosevelt cinema in a Hyde park, uh, which I discovered

[00:08:44] that they have butt warmers in their seats now. And that's crazy. Mid movie. He leans over

[00:08:48] to me and he goes, do these have seat heaters? I think I turned it on by accident. Uh, and

[00:08:55] I could do that because we were two of three people in that theater. I had been checking the

[00:08:59] tickets sold all day and I'm like, all right, only two. All right. Only two. It gets to the,

[00:09:05] we went to a nine 15 showing eight 30. I'm like, all right, the only two we sit down

[00:09:09] only two. And then some other motherfucker comes in and ruins our fun. How dare you?

[00:09:16] Did they sit right next to you? No, he was the aisle over. Yeah. The aisle over. However,

[00:09:20] the second the movie started, he immediately fell asleep. Immediately. Just like immediately

[00:09:25] and started recline. So he's reclined back. Just yeah. Loud snoring. And every once in a while

[00:09:32] he would like jolt himself awake, like a snore would be so loud that he would wake up

[00:09:35] and then he would immediately fall back asleep. That's incredible. It's just

[00:09:41] enjoy Craven for 30 seconds. Like yeah, this was the most entertaining part of Craven the

[00:09:46] truly. Uh, he did smell like shit though, which really, uh, like put a damper on everything

[00:09:53] was one of the things that will come up a, instead of a fart, instead of a snore.

[00:09:57] And that's why he's all like shit. I mean, who knows? But man, what a, what a picture.

[00:10:04] Yeah. We, we, we saw the Sony Spider-Man universe of characters or whatever they're calling it.

[00:10:09] The spunk. Uh, we saw, we saw it to the end and, uh, yeah, you know, it's, it's, uh, it was

[00:10:16] a rough time. It's not very good. It's I think worse than, you know, I would say Madam Webb

[00:10:21] is not good, but it's entertaining. Uh, Craven the Hunter, I think is not good and is occasionally

[00:10:25] entertaining. The action stuff I thought was fine. Some of the action is pretty fun. There's

[00:10:30] some really brutal action set pieces, uh, which I appreciated. I had no idea the movie was rated

[00:10:34] R until I was watching it. Uh, and, uh, yeah, there's moments where Craven the Hunter like

[00:10:39] bites a guy's nose off and that's pretty fun. It was, but, uh, yeah, otherwise, yeah, it's

[00:10:46] not worth saying. I will watch it on Netflix when I'm under the influence of something at some

[00:10:51] point. Literally like the first 10 minutes, Aaron Taylor Johnson kills some guys on screen,

[00:10:57] gets away, gets into the back of an airplane and takes off his shirt. And we're like, all

[00:11:02] right, you're going to sit for the rest of this movie, right? Here's Aaron Taylor Johnson.

[00:11:05] No shirt. Ripped as fuck. Yeah. That's going to keep you in your seat, right? Yeah. I mean,

[00:11:12] we stayed the whole thing. So it did work. I mean, uh, but yeah, so we did crave it. We saw

[00:11:16] Craven the Hunter, but we were, there was no, like any real discussion of doing that for the

[00:11:19] podcast. I don't know. I mean, there, there just wasn't a ton of movies that are going to be like

[00:11:24] blockbuster status this holiday season on until like, I think a complete unknown is going to crush

[00:11:29] the box office. Uh, but yeah, that's also Christmas day timing didn't work out and also felt like a

[00:11:34] weird one for us to like gather all together and talk about the Bob Dylan biopic. Oh, I thought you

[00:11:39] were talking about just a complete unknown movie. Oh yeah. I also thought that's what you meant.

[00:11:43] And I was like, man, you're getting really specific about a thing. You don't know what

[00:11:45] you're talking about. Uh, so, so for those reasons, for timing and for like not any really

[00:11:51] great candidates, I mean, that's kind of how we ended up last year where like, we don't

[00:11:54] really have like anything like any big major movie to talk about. Like otherwise it's like

[00:11:58] Aquaman two might as well do Godzilla minus one. That movie is great. Um, fucks. Yeah. So

[00:12:02] this year we decided, you know what? Kyle has never seen die hard and it's Christmas time.

[00:12:13] So maybe we should just do a die hard episode and make Kyle watch it. Uh, because we knew

[00:12:18] like, you know, we put it out there to the whole group to see who could be here. We have

[00:12:22] like a group of people who are, we invite every year for this podcast episode. Uh, and you

[00:12:26] guys are the ones that were able to make it, but Kyle's the one who like always has to be

[00:12:30] here because he's the one who does our sound for this podcast. Uh, which thank you for

[00:12:34] that by the way, Kyle. I got you. Uh, and so as a result, we were like, well, you know

[00:12:37] what? It's time to watch die hard. Kyle hasn't seen it. Uh, so Kyle, you watch die

[00:12:43] hard. I watched die hard, man. Uh, and so how, how did you go through your entire life

[00:12:49] without having seen die? You know, honestly, I don't know. Cause this movie is like, it's

[00:12:54] right up my fucking alley. You're a big action movie. I'm a big action movie guy, not a horror

[00:12:57] movie guy, but an action, not a horror movie guy, action movies. And for whatever reason,

[00:13:02] this one just kept slipping past me. I never caught it on TV. I never had a VHS or a DVD

[00:13:08] copy of it. Cause my parents weren't big movie people. So the only movie my dad ever shared

[00:13:13] with me was like trading places. So great movie. Uh, so it just, for whatever reason, just like

[00:13:22] it was a, since it was a little bit before my time, a lot of the people that I hung out

[00:13:26] with, they also hadn't seen it and we watched more modern stuff. Yeah, I know. Hey man,

[00:13:33] that's one of you. Yeah. You're one of those people. You could have shown me this movie.

[00:13:36] I had seen die. Why didn't you show it to me? I was busy showing you evil dead and that didn't

[00:13:39] work out well. No, but it's for whatever reason, it just kept escaping me. And actually last Christmas

[00:13:46] or last Christmas Eve, we were at my wife's family's house down in Jersey and they have like

[00:13:52] a split level. So the party's upstairs and they have a living room downstairs and like kids would

[00:13:57] go down there and play and just back and forth, back and forth. They had a TV on down there and die

[00:14:01] hard was on. And I had gone down to get away from the hustle and bustle for a couple minutes.

[00:14:06] And I sat down and I watched like maybe 15 minutes of the movie. And I was like, how the fuck have I

[00:14:13] never seen this? 15 minutes are awesome. Like this movie rules. And then I went back to the party

[00:14:20] and missed the rest of the movie. But it, I had from then on, I was like, I need to watch die hard.

[00:14:26] I need to find the time to watch it. And Mike was like, that's what we're going to do for the

[00:14:29] podcast. I'm like, finally a reason. So I watched die hard. All right. Hell yes. Well,

[00:14:35] what did you think of die hard? Movie Fox dude.

[00:14:39] Let's go. Let's fucking go. All right. No further questions. Let's wrap it up. That's it. 14 and a

[00:14:49] half minutes. New record. Merry Christmas. Yeah. No. What were your circumstances like for

[00:14:54] watching die hard? How did you watch it? What's the, so, um, we put the boys to bed. Uh, my twin boys,

[00:15:00] uh, they have, we've recently gotten into a new like bedtime routine where I put them to bed by

[00:15:04] like between seven and seven 30. So by seven 30, they were asleep. I'm like, all right, it's early

[00:15:10] enough. This movie is about two hours. It's not going to get done late. Let me turn it on now.

[00:15:15] And I asked my wife, I'm like, Hey, do you want to watch this with me? And she goes, fuck no.

[00:15:21] So I sat on the couch by myself. I didn't have it too loud because the boys room is right next door.

[00:15:26] And I got to watch it on my big screen and just chill. And man, I just let it wash over me. It was

[00:15:33] just greasy and sweaty and bloody and great. Nice. Uh, amazing. Very excited that you, I'm glad that

[00:15:41] you really liked it, Kyle. That's, that's, that was my fear is that, uh, going into this episode,

[00:15:45] you were not going to like, did you think there was a chance I wasn't going to like it? I figured

[00:15:49] you would like it. I mean, there was a chance, I guess. Yeah, there's always a chance for a very funny

[00:15:54] episode where the three of us are just like, yo, just yelling at me for being wrong. Um, but yeah,

[00:16:01] otherwise, so, uh, this past weekend or this weekend, uh, Mike D and Colin, you guys came to

[00:16:06] this house, uh, and hung out. We all hung out last night, uh, drank a bunch of beers, ate a giant

[00:16:11] sandwich, uh, and watched die hard, uh, and several other things. Uh, so yeah, I mean, we, we have seen

[00:16:18] die hard many times. I think that's fair to say, uh, last couple of times I've watched it have been

[00:16:23] in a theater. The Roxy plays it every year for Christmas. Uh, and so I, I think I saw it at the

[00:16:27] Roxy last year actually. So it's, it hasn't been that long since I've watched die hard. How long

[00:16:31] has it been since you guys watched it? Um, so I looked on letterbox the last time I actually logged

[00:16:36] it was 2020. Okay. So I'm going to guess that's the first time I've like actually, or last time I had

[00:16:41] watched it all the way in full, which is crazy to hear Kyle say that you never came across this on TV

[00:16:45] because I can't think of any movie I've seen more times. It's just like part partially on TNT or

[00:16:52] AMC at the gym. Exactly. Yeah. It's, it's die hard. Um, yeah. AMC frequently does like die hard

[00:16:58] marathons where they're just playing all the die hard movies. You know, it's crazy. I think I've seen

[00:17:02] one of the sequels. Uh, you're insane. The one, I think it was the one with Justin Long, the one with

[00:17:09] Kevin that might try to see that has Kevin Smith in it. Probably. I didn't take you to that one. I don't

[00:17:13] know. Uh, live for your die hard. It's what you're talking about though, which is from 2007. I

[00:17:16] actually haven't seen that one. I've seen the first three. Uh, I've not seen four and five.

[00:17:21] Yeah. Uh, live for your die hard or a good day to die hard. I've heard, I've heard live for your

[00:17:25] die hard. Okay. A good day to die hard. I've heard nothing but bad things. That's the PG 13 one.

[00:17:28] Yeah. I think they're both PG 13. I wouldn't be surprised. I know a good day to die hard.

[00:17:33] It's the one with Jai Courtney. Yeah. A real Jai Courtney motherfucker.

[00:17:35] Yeah. Literally.

[00:17:37] The most Jai Courtney motherfucker.

[00:17:40] And then Mary Elizabeth Winstead's in the fourth one, uh, playing, uh, his daughter. Yeah. Uh,

[00:17:46] and then also, yeah, Justin Long's in there. Kevin Smith is in it. Uh, yeah, but I have not seen

[00:17:50] those two. You've seen live for your die hard. I'm pretty sure. I think that, I think I caught it

[00:17:55] on TV. Okay. Um, and the only thing I remember from that movie is, uh, this, the end of the movie,

[00:18:02] big bad gun on Bruce Willis. And he goes, you'd be guy a mother. And then a gunshot.

[00:18:08] Because it's PG 13. Because it's PG 13. Yeah. And yeah, I don't remember anything else about the

[00:18:13] movie. So that was all next year. Also the first die hard movie I saw. Really? Yeah.

[00:18:20] I remember my, my dad and I went to see it in theaters. Like when we saw the, he saw the trailer

[00:18:25] for it and he was like, Hey, we gotta go see this. And I just like, wasn't fully aware of die hard

[00:18:31] at the time. So I was like, sure, I'll go see this. And then I'm watching him. Like,

[00:18:35] this seems like a sequel to something. I feel like I'm missing context. It's calling back to

[00:18:41] a lot of things from a different thing that I haven't seen. Yeah. And then I also didn't watch

[00:18:44] die hard until college. Fair. Uh, yeah. Wait, yeah. So you watched that in college for the first time

[00:18:49] that you first saw Colin. Yep. Yeah. Cause I lived with Mike D over here for four years and at some

[00:18:55] point, okay. Yeah. I don't know if he made me watch it or if it was just one of the many times

[00:19:00] Mike decided to do, to watch die hard instead of doing anything he was supposed to be doing.

[00:19:03] Yeah. Sometimes you just have a fever, you know? Yeah. Sometimes you gotta, you wake up,

[00:19:08] you gotta take on your throat. You can't go to class. So you skip to watch die hard in bed.

[00:19:11] Yeah. Yeah. I think it's totally fair. That is the Mike DeCriscio experience.

[00:19:16] Yeah. No, one time when I was in high school, I skipped school. I pretended I was six so I could

[00:19:20] watch Pulp Fiction on IFC. Worth it. That's incredible. I had never seen it. It was very exciting.

[00:19:27] I mean, the thing about watching stuff on IFC is that it is unedited, but there is commercial

[00:19:32] breaks. So you, so you, you're hearing all the F words and stuff. You're hearing all that stuff.

[00:19:37] It's you're seeing boobs, all that, but there's commercial breaks every 10 minutes.

[00:19:42] But at least you weren't paying for a specific streaming service that still is going to force

[00:19:45] feed you ads. Exactly. Amazon. Uh, Mike D, when was the first time you saw die hard? Do you remember?

[00:19:50] I don't remember. Yeah. And it's one of those movies that's just like been there forever. Kind of

[00:19:54] foundational text. Uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. My parents are big movie people. So they, uh,

[00:19:59] started young with me to watch like, Oh, you got to watch this. You got to watch this,

[00:20:03] you know, whatever. Um, and this was definitely one of those movies. Um, I think I've talked

[00:20:07] about like empire, uh, enemy of the state actually is one of those movies that like we had like

[00:20:11] and, and the river wild had it like running jokes in the family that like, Oh, it's on,

[00:20:17] we have to watch it. Right. Just like as a goof, as a bit. Uh, and die hard was definitely

[00:20:21] one of those movies that whatever we found it. Uh, well, we got to watch that right now. Here it

[00:20:25] is. Um, so I've seen it millions of, you know, tons of times. Fair enough. Yeah. I can't specifically

[00:20:30] remember the first time I saw die hard. I'm pretty sure it was in high school. Uh, cause yeah,

[00:20:34] it wasn't like a big, uh, movie in my family for whatever reason. It was a movie that like my dad

[00:20:38] liked for sure. Um, but yeah, it was just one, not one that, um, I don't know. It wasn't family

[00:20:43] considered family friendly entertainment or, uh, but, uh, yeah, I definitely saw it when I was in high

[00:20:49] school and then liked it quite a bit. Uh, didn't really get like hooked on die hard for a long time

[00:20:54] though. I feel like it was maybe post-college where like I watched it again and I was like, Oh yeah,

[00:20:59] this is a masterpiece. This is the best thing ever. What have I been doing? Not watching die hard all

[00:21:03] the time. Uh, it's one of those things that like, yes, this is also, this is one of the best movies

[00:21:09] of all time, but the further we get away from God's light and the movies become worse and worse.

[00:21:18] It's just like when you go back and look at a movie from this time period, you're just like on

[00:21:22] your knees, like, Oh my God, never forget what they took. We used to have, it's funny as I was

[00:21:27] watching it. I'm like, I understand Mike DiCrecio. We used to have movies. This is like an ultimate.

[00:21:36] We used to have movies. Yeah. Granted it is one of the best movies ever made. It is like one of the

[00:21:41] best action movies especially ever made. Uh, and you know, a lot of the times I think the thing

[00:21:46] with the, we used to have movies thing is when you're watching a movie from the eighties and

[00:21:49] nineties, uh, that is, wasn't considered that great, but like you watch it and you're like, wow,

[00:21:54] this cinematography is stunning. Split and die after his left and right. Yeah. You watch cliffhanger and

[00:22:00] there's like the most beautiful shot you've ever seen. Uh, which maybe it's a bad example.

[00:22:03] Cliffhanger fucks, but you could be watching like just a random, like, you know,

[00:22:09] Jean-Claude Van Damme film or something. And just like, you'd be like, whoa, the craft on display

[00:22:14] here is unbelievable. They actually tried. Yes. Like that. And you don't get that in as many movies.

[00:22:19] There's certainly still craft and film today and stuff, but there's a lot more laziness.

[00:22:24] For sure. We were talking about it the other night when we were like, when I had told you I had

[00:22:27] watched the movie and I was like trying to think to any recent action movie that I had seen that I

[00:22:34] could like even compare like visually to die hard. And the closest thing I could come up with was

[00:22:40] monkey man. And like a, that is a, it's a pretty, it's not the best movie. Uh, it's not, there's not

[00:22:47] enough action. There's too much, uh, talking, uh, but it looks really good. And I think it's shot

[00:22:55] really well and it's got a lot of cool choices, but aside from that, like I couldn't think anything

[00:23:01] that like looked nearly as good. I mean, I think the John wick movies do, they do, but they look

[00:23:07] great, but they have like a sheen on them. Yeah. Like a digital, they're a little less,

[00:23:11] a little less dirty, almost too perfect. But I no detraction for John wick. I love John wick.

[00:23:17] Sure. But it just doesn't look quite the same as die hard. It's just, it doesn't have that sweat.

[00:23:23] Yeah. I mean, I think Mike D is right. It is a, that movie, those movies are shot digitally

[00:23:26] and die hard, but shot on film, uh, as every other movie was at the time. Uh, and now very few,

[00:23:30] you are. Uh, and yeah, I mean, like there is a difference in the look between digital and film

[00:23:36] and you can see it in die hard. Uh, also, I mean, also the fact that John McTiernan is a really,

[00:23:40] really top tier action director. Uh, and I mean, he had this run, uh, that included die hard,

[00:23:46] but that's three movie run, uh, where he directed predator and then he directed die hard. And then

[00:23:51] he directed the hunt for red October. Uh, and man, yeah. Wow. All timer.

[00:23:56] Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

[00:23:59] And then, and then also did a die hard with a vengeance a few years later, he didn't do die

[00:24:03] hard too, but he did the third one, which is also great. Uh, I've heard that one's good.

[00:24:07] Die hard with a vengeance rules. Oh man. Is that the one with Sam Jackson? Yes, it is. Okay.

[00:24:10] Uh, and Jeremy Irons is the villain, uh, playing Hans Gruber's brother. Oh,

[00:24:15] spoiler. Oh yeah. I guess that's a big reveal in the movie, Mike. Come on. Simon Gruber. Uh,

[00:24:20] it's, it's really great. And it's also a great New York movie. Yeah. It's, it's, I think it's

[00:24:24] the only, it might be the only die hard movie. Again, I haven't seen four or five, but it's

[00:24:27] the only one where you, if you really see McLean as like a New York cop, um, where it could,

[00:24:31] because that's, it's really, it takes place in New York and it's very much about the geography

[00:24:34] of the city and what's going on there. Uh, so that's really fun. Cause die hard two is

[00:24:38] in Florida. I want to say, um, or maybe, no, it's this, isn't it like a snowy airport?

[00:24:43] Oh yeah. Maybe it's a snowy airport. Is it in New York though? I don't know. Okay. I guess

[00:24:47] we got to watch them again. Yeah. We just watch the rest of them do another episode.

[00:24:51] Uh, yeah. Die hard two does take place in an airport for sure. Uh, and die hard two is a weird

[00:24:56] one. That was directed by Renny Harlan, uh, who also directed the long kiss good night,

[00:24:59] which is another one of my favorite Christmas movies of all time. Uh, have you, have you guys

[00:25:02] all seen long kiss good night? I have not. No. Also have not. You made me watch it. Yeah.

[00:25:06] Yeah. That tracks. Uh, I mean, next year's podcast should be the, yeah, it's, uh, I would put it up

[00:25:14] there with die hard as far as like the, so long, long kiss good night is a Shane black movie, uh,

[00:25:19] written by Shane black directed by Renny Harlan. Uh, but he also directed die hard two. Uh, and die

[00:25:24] hard two is a weird one because it is very much like it's the same thing as the first one. Uh,

[00:25:29] they immediately came up with the ripoff formula of die hard in a, and then that's what also the

[00:25:35] second die hard movie. Yeah. Die hard in an airport in an airport this time. Yeah. We got a new die

[00:25:41] hard in an airport this year, which have you guys watched carry on rule carry on. It's great.

[00:25:47] It was so much fun. I've, I've heard pretty good things about it. It fucks carry on is the new

[00:25:51] film from John Coles Sarah, who I'm a big fan of, uh, director of such films as nonstop, uh,

[00:25:56] which I've talked about. Wait a second. I'm in carry on is carry on is like a spiritual sequel

[00:26:01] to nonstop. So carry on the flight of carry on. That's Heron egertson.

[00:26:05] He's a TSA agent. Okay. Uh, and he's working, he's working the line. He's, you know,

[00:26:11] watching bags, all that stuff. Uh, and suddenly he like, uh, he finds an earbud,

[00:26:15] he picks it up and there's somebody talking to him for the earbud. Uh, and he's threatening,

[00:26:19] uh, Taron Egerton's wife's life. Uh, unless he like puts a bag through security that has

[00:26:25] a bomb in it. Whoa. It's like grand piano. Yes. Uh, and Jason Bateman is the guy in the ear.

[00:26:31] He's so Jason Bateman is so good in it. Holy shit. Uh, it's, it's nuts. It's really fun. It's on

[00:26:37] Netflix now. Uh, it really feels like a spiritual sequel of nonstop. He also directed the commuter,

[00:26:42] which I really like, uh, and a lot of other, the shallows and a lot of other stuff. Um, just

[00:26:46] modes of transportation thrillers. Yes. It really feels like the trilogy of nonstop,

[00:26:51] the computer and carry on would have been, it would be like a perfect action. So nonstop,

[00:26:55] I'm assuming, have you seen nonstop? No, I'm trying to guess the mode of transportation.

[00:27:00] Oh, it's playing. It's wait. Nonstop is a plane. Yeah. So carry on is also a plane. Yes. Although

[00:27:05] the carry ons in the airport for the most part. Okay. Uh, there is some plane action towards the

[00:27:09] end. The commuter is a train commuters, a train. All right. We just need one with an automobile.

[00:27:12] Yes. Those first two have Liam Neeson in them. He's the star of nonstop and the commuter.

[00:27:17] I'm surprised I haven't made you watch nonstop. Uh, I, I saw nonstop in 2014 and I've been talking

[00:27:22] about it nonstop for 10 years. It's really good. It's I, I did a Mike makes my watch. I made Mike

[00:27:29] watch that for you forcing me into a seat and throwing it in a DVD player and not letting me

[00:27:34] leave energy. Yeah. Kyle is already here. Yeah. Unfortunately, my blu-ray have nonstop is in

[00:27:40] Missoula. I didn't have the foresight to bring it with me. You should have put it in your carry on.

[00:27:47] Yeah. They wouldn't let you through TSA with that. Bomb that big.

[00:27:55] Taron needs to do what it stopped you, man. No way. Oh man. Uh, anyway, die hard. What a picture.

[00:28:01] What a picture. Man, the movie fucks. Yeah. So I'm curious, Kyle, as someone who hadn't seen it,

[00:28:08] did you know any of the like famous lines and the iconography of it and stuff? Um, I,

[00:28:13] I, I had like a general awareness of it. I knew the whole like yippee-ki-yay motherfucker. Right.

[00:28:19] And that, that was the big one. I knew like Hans Gruber falling off the, the tower. Sure. But

[00:28:26] you're also a huge Brooklyn nine, nine fan big time. Uh, and so there's a, a lot of recurring

[00:28:31] jokes on Brooklyn nine, nine that center around die hard. Yeah. And a lot of those jokes are like

[00:28:37] centered on the iconography from die hard. So I like, I knew it from that and just like

[00:28:45] it's been an around forever and people have made references to it before. So there were,

[00:28:50] but there was a lot of stuff that I didn't know. Like the, when he drops the bag of C4 down the

[00:28:56] elevator shaft, holy shit. Like that was wild. And I had never seen that. So I wasn't expecting that.

[00:29:03] And like the, everything with Argyle, I had no idea that was even a character. Hell yeah.

[00:29:08] And he was sick. He was awesome. But, uh, yeah, no, there, there was some stuff that I knew

[00:29:14] some stuff I expected, but a lot of it was, it was very fresh and it was very exciting the whole time.

[00:29:21] Nice. I mean, that's kind of the thing with the movie. Like there's so many iconic moments. We said

[00:29:25] this while we're watching it, just like, man, every line of dialogue is the coolest thing you've ever

[00:29:29] heard. Yeah. I think I said just like, and something that is like pierced the cultural

[00:29:33] consciousness for 30 years. Yeah. The entire script is just banger one liner after banger one

[00:29:39] line. Yeah. Yes. Like just nothing else. Yes. Uh, which did you know? Frank Sinatra could have

[00:29:45] been John McLean. What, what did you guys know? You didn't know this? No. Yeah. Uh, so diehard is

[00:29:51] actually based on a book. Okay. Uh, very, very loosely based on a book. Um, and the book is

[00:29:57] actually the book that it's based on is a sequel to another book. And that book was adapted

[00:30:02] to film back in the sixties. Uh, and Frank Sinatra was in that movie. He was the star of

[00:30:07] it. And so when they were making diehard, there was a weird contractual obligation to

[00:30:12] ask Frank Sinatra to be the star of the movie. They had to ask him first. Yes. Fully expecting

[00:30:18] him to say no and hoping he would say no because it would make no sense. How old would he have

[00:30:23] been at the time? Very old. Uh, I mean, he would have been like at least 70 at this point.

[00:30:31] Release the Sinatra cut, please. I mean, I'd watch it. Uh, yeah, they actually shot it with

[00:30:38] Frank Sinatra and then they decided to put to pull on Eric's old to back to the future

[00:30:43] and just, uh, pull him out of it. Uh, yeah, that's just one of my favorite tidbits of trivia.

[00:30:49] They actually had to ask Frank Sinatra to be in the movie. That's wild. I want to, I, I really

[00:30:55] wish like that phone call is recorded somewhere. It's like, yeah, Frank, do you want to be John

[00:31:01] McClane? What's John McClane? Yes. But so of course it ended up being Bruce Willis instead.

[00:31:09] Uh, and this was kind of like the career making film for Bruce Willis. He was not a, he was

[00:31:15] not really an action star before this. Uh, he was the star of a moonlighting, which was

[00:31:18] a TV show, the sitcom that he was on in the eighties. Uh, and then this kind of catapulted

[00:31:23] him into a different like career trajectory, turn him into a movie star. Uh, and man, and

[00:31:28] when you watch him in this movie, man, unbelievable. One of the best kicking ass for so far.

[00:31:34] Yeah. I can't believe there was ever a doubt, you know? Right. Yeah. I mean, it was,

[00:31:38] it was a weird, like, I don't know. I think, I mean, this movie was huge. Obviously people

[00:31:43] saw it. I think it was the number one movie of that year. Like it was such a highest gross,

[00:31:46] like a huge grosser movie. Uh, but like at the time people were like, yeah, that this

[00:31:51] sitcom actor, I don't know if he's enough to carry this. It's got big Michael Keaton,

[00:31:55] Batman energy. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Which is also 89, right? Uh, yeah. Die

[00:32:00] hard was 88. Batman was 89. Oh, right. Okay. Um, but yeah. And they're very about a year

[00:32:04] apart. Uh, and die hard weirdly, even though it is a Christmas movie, uh, came out in

[00:32:08] July. Huh? Yeah. Interesting timing. But it is also like, it's a big summer

[00:32:13] blockbuster kind of action. You gotta have Christmas in July though. Yeah. There you

[00:32:16] go. Uh, which actually speaking of, so the reason we're talking about it for this

[00:32:20] episode is because, uh, you know, die hard is a Christmas movie. Tis, tis the

[00:32:23] season. Uh, do you feel that it is a Christmas movie, Kyle? It is the most

[00:32:26] Christmassy of Christmas movies I've ever seen. Like I, before I came here, before we

[00:32:31] put the boys down for a nap, I put on a Muppet Christmas Carol for them. And I'm like, I

[00:32:35] don't know. This die hard might be more Christmassy than a Muppet Christmas Carol.

[00:32:39] That's also a banger though. Oh no, that movie. Those Muppets fuck dude.

[00:32:44] That's the only time that sentence has ever been said.

[00:32:48] We put on that movie and I don't know if you've watched it recently. It's got way

[00:32:52] more Dutch angles than I realized. Like every couple seconds. And I'm, I'm just

[00:32:58] like, you know what we say to that, Kyle? We used to have movies. We used to have

[00:33:02] movies. Speaking of director of photography, Yon de Bont. Oh baby.

[00:33:07] I was very excited for us to both cheer when that credit came up. I thought you were

[00:33:11] on. Sure. I thought you were saying Yon de Bont was the director of photography for

[00:33:15] the Muppets Christmas Carol. And I was like, you know what? I can see it. Yeah.

[00:33:20] That's a different kind of movie. Yes. Uh, but my Christmas Carol also, I think

[00:33:24] Michael Caine's best performance. Oh my God. He's unbelievable. I like to think that, uh,

[00:33:29] Brian Henson was like, Hey, it's a Muppet movie. We're having fun. And Michael Caine

[00:33:33] was like, fuck you. I'm taking this as seriously as I've ever taken any role I've

[00:33:38] ever taken. Just plays it as straight as possible. As straight as possible. It made

[00:33:44] it the best fucking Muppet movie I've ever seen. It's the best. Yeah. Is that your

[00:33:47] favorite movie Christmas Carol? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Interesting. Hmm. Yeah. I mean,

[00:33:51] it's great. Do you guys have favorite movies? I've only really seen like multiple

[00:33:56] times, uh, Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island. Muppet Treasure Island

[00:34:00] might be my favorite. So I think I like Treasure Island more, but that's because

[00:34:04] I've only seen two movies. You've never seen the original Muppets? I probably

[00:34:09] have, but I don't remember. Yeah. It's, it's Treasure Island or Christmas

[00:34:12] Carol for me. It probably just depending on time of year. Like, yeah. I mean,

[00:34:15] Treasure Island has Tim Curry. That's true. When's the last time you watched

[00:34:19] Treasure Island? Relatively recently. Not like yesterday. Not yet. Well, I've got two

[00:34:26] kids, so I put it on recently and I don't think it holds up as well. Wow. I

[00:34:30] think it's good. I think all the Muppet stuff is good. Uh, the kid playing Jim,

[00:34:35] I think actively bad. Uh, that's fair. Tim Curry, obviously great. Obviously

[00:34:40] great. But yeah, I don't know. It's definitely no, no Muppet Christmas Carol.

[00:34:44] Cabin fever while you're watching. Uh, who's the guy that plays the guy with the

[00:34:49] black spot at the beginning? It's Billy Connelly. It is Billy Connelly.

[00:34:53] Yeah. Yeah. No, I, my treasure Island was a movie that, uh, when I was in college, my roommate EJ

[00:35:00] would, would watch a lot. He was obsessed with it. Big college movie energy. Yeah. And so we,

[00:35:05] we watched it a bunch, uh, at the age of like 22, uh, watching a lot of Muppet Treasure Island,

[00:35:12] the right time to watch that. I think the last time I watched it actually might've been in 2020,

[00:35:18] uh, because a bunch of like, we all got on zoom and like watched Muppet Treasure Island.

[00:35:23] Amazing. Uh, I think it holds up. I think it's pretty great. Uh, but yeah, I don't, I also haven't

[00:35:29] rewatched a lot of the older Muppet movies in a while. I feel like great Muppet Caper might be up

[00:35:32] there for me. Uh, I watched that one pretty recently. Again, I got two kids. I've been watching a lot of

[00:35:37] the Muppets. That one's really good. We watched one that I think was a TV movie. It was like a very

[00:35:42] Muppet Christmas or something. That's not a real movie. Yeah. I mean, it's part of the canon,

[00:35:47] please. Uh, but that was fun. It's, it has a lot of like the, the Muppet, like kind of like,

[00:35:53] um, pop culture humor. Yeah. And, but the, I don't know if you've seen that anytime you have any

[00:36:00] memory of it, but it's opening up like a regular Muppet movie, like humans, Muppets interacting,

[00:36:05] going down the street. And at the end of the street, there's this snowman voiced by Mel Brooks.

[00:36:10] And he's like, it's the most wonderful time of the year. It's Christmas time. And the Muppet,

[00:36:14] he gets cut off and he's like, what are you doing? And it's the director of the Muppets movie

[00:36:18] who is also a Muppet. He says, I'm the snowman narrator. I'm a staple of the genre. And he goes,

[00:36:23] get out of here. You are not in this movie. And he's like, this is unbelievable. I'm contacting

[00:36:27] my lawyer. Amazing. I'm sure your children love that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. One of the,

[00:36:33] one of the lawyers, one of the lawyers names was snow Cohen. So like,

[00:36:39] you know, they were like, Holy shit. That's hilarious. Nice. But die hard though. But die

[00:36:47] hard. Yeah. I mean, it has been like the, uh, you know, the internet debate for many,

[00:36:52] many years is, is die hard a Christmas movie. I think it was a debate for a long time. And

[00:36:56] then like in the last few years, everyone's been like, yes, it is. Yeah. Just shut the fuck

[00:36:59] up. Yeah. It just is now. Yeah. Like that argument was like, it started with like sincerity

[00:37:05] of like, yeah, it's a Christmas movie. And then just like too many people latched onto it.

[00:37:08] It became like an ironic thing. Like my favorite Christmas movie is die hard. Cause like, you

[00:37:13] don't want to like, you want to be different. You don't want to say like, you want to like,

[00:37:17] you know, the classic, like, you know, the big traditional type of Christmas movies. Yeah.

[00:37:21] Like a Christmas Carol. Exactly. Yeah. But then like, yeah, you watch it. That, that is

[00:37:25] some holly jolly bullshit in there. Yeah. I think it is. Christmas is so infused into the film.

[00:37:31] Yeah. Uh, you know, and I think the fact that it takes place on Christmas Eve, I mean,

[00:37:34] a, that's the inciting, like it's the Chris, it's a Christmas party that they're at. Yeah.

[00:37:38] Um, and yeah, but I think the fact that it is Christmas, like creates a good contrast with

[00:37:42] like the mega violence that is happening for sure all around it, which is something that

[00:37:46] Shane Black took to heart with like all of his films, uh, which is why Shane Black, you

[00:37:50] know, wrote Lethal Weapon, wrote Long Kiss Goodnight, wrote Last Boy Scout, Dreads Kiss Kiss Bang

[00:37:55] Bang, uh, Iron Man 3. All these movies take place at Christmas. Uh, just loves Christmas.

[00:37:59] What's that? That man just loves Christmas. He loves it. Yeah. And it's a, it's a good shorthand

[00:38:03] to like make your action movie kind of stand out a little bit where it's like, you know,

[00:38:07] uh, like it just feels, I don't know. It's, it's because Christmas is a specific like time

[00:38:12] of year and warmth and like all that kind of stuff. And the, having the contrast of people

[00:38:16] shooting each other up, uh, it works. It also gives you like an excuse to have really like

[00:38:21] interesting aesthetic things going on like Christmas lights ever, like trees and garland

[00:38:25] and big red bows and stuff. So it just is a quick way to explain why stuff just kind of

[00:38:30] looks cool sometimes. Yes. Yeah. And it's great. I love it.

[00:38:33] Yeah. Like John McClane, he had that, uh, like Christmas tape that he used to tape his

[00:38:37] gun to his brain. If it wasn't Christmas, he wouldn't have had that and the movie would

[00:38:41] have ended very differently. Also John's wife name is Holly. Hell yeah. So it's right

[00:38:46] there. Uh, yes. And it opens with Christmas and Hollis or it doesn't open with Christmas

[00:38:54] Hollis, but it plays very early on and it plays light at snow at the end. And yeah, it's

[00:38:57] just, I don't know. It's got Christmas like throughout it feels very Christmassy in a weird

[00:39:01] kind of way. Yeah. In a action movie, sweaty, bloody squibs exploding kind of way. Yes.

[00:39:07] The juiciest squibs in this movie. Oh my God. Oh my God. I was another thing I was saying

[00:39:11] to Mike, the squibs, they, we don't get squibs like that and I don't know why it looks so much

[00:39:17] better than like a CGI blood. Yeah. A real juicy squib. When I like when Ellis like takes that

[00:39:23] bullet and just all over the window. Yeah. Oh man. So good. Fucking awesome. Fucking

[00:39:29] Ellis. Fucking Ellis man. Piece of shit. But me piece of shit. God made my skin crawl. The

[00:39:40] Hans Bobby line is one of the best like just line delivery. It is so fucking funny. I mean,

[00:39:51] that's the thing. Like we were saying already, but just like every, every scene has a line

[00:39:56] like right from the, on the plane with the fist with your toes thing. Yes. Yeah. Uh, all

[00:40:00] the way through the very end of the movie, you're just like, that's the, you're doing the Leo

[00:40:03] plane every scene. That's it. That's why they're doing the thing. Yes. Of course. It's welcome

[00:40:07] to the party pal. There's so many like just iconic moments. The, uh, one that I feel like

[00:40:12] I always forget about, I mean, I feel like there's always like, there's so many that you forget

[00:40:16] about some of them, you know? Um, and there's the one where the guy is shooting at McLean, like from

[00:40:20] above the table. Uh, he's like, Hey advice or word of advice, you know, don't hesitate to kill

[00:40:27] someone next time. And then John McLean just shoots him through the table. It's like, Oh, thanks

[00:40:31] for the advice. So good. The one that is always, you know, like that's like stood out to me. That's

[00:40:35] not, I don't think in one of the like Canon quotes from this movie is when, uh, the police are

[00:40:41] assaulting the building for the first time and they bring up the like RV thing and they shoot

[00:40:46] it with the rocket and Theo, the computer guy goes, the quarterback is toast. And I've

[00:40:52] thought about that delivery for my entire life. Another thing that I really liked and another

[00:40:58] like subtle nod to the fact that it's Christmas was the corpse with ho, ho, ho. I have a machine

[00:41:04] gun and with the, wearing the Santa hat, right? Another quiet reference to the fact that this

[00:41:10] is a Christmas. Very, very subtle, very subtle. Yeah. Yes. Very. Yeah. But just like every

[00:41:16] everybody in this movie is just like fully bought in, just giving 110%, like at every point.

[00:41:22] And like, I think that's something you don't get in like a lot of like just kind of more

[00:41:26] modern action movies where like you get like your, your main cast, like they're going for

[00:41:29] it, but they're like ancillary characters kind of, they're, they're there, they're doing their

[00:41:33] thing, but like they're kind of there for a paycheck and you can tell, but it's like

[00:41:36] in this, just everyone is just fully in. Yeah. And, and the, the, like the cutaways to

[00:41:42] other stuff that's not McLean and you know, like going on in the tower, like taking the

[00:41:47] two minutes or whatever that scene is to have the FBI guys yelling at the guy in the

[00:41:51] sewer, the, the, to cut the power, like to have that scene. I don't know. It just like

[00:41:55] stands out as stuff we don't get in movies anymore. Well, yeah. And you have a carrot,

[00:41:58] like just kind of small character moments. The fact that there's like, you know, the two

[00:42:01] FBI agents that are both named Johnson and they have to keep, it's just like, oh yeah,

[00:42:05] no, the other one, you know, just bits like that, like make it feel like a much more like

[00:42:11] lived in worlds. Um, you know, and it is a relatively straightforward action story, but

[00:42:16] everybody commits so fully to it. Uh, and I think that's something that's, uh, is rarer

[00:42:21] these days too. I think a lot of action movies now are a lot of like big superhero blockbusters,

[00:42:26] that kind of thing. There's a level of irony to a lot of it. Um, and especially that's, that's

[00:42:30] a criticism that's been leveled at the MCU a lot. Um, especially, uh, which, you know, makes sense.

[00:42:35] You know, it's stuff like in Spider-Man, no way home where it's like, what, your name's really

[00:42:37] Dr. Octopus. Uh, what a lame name, this guy over here. Uh, you know, and I, you know, I think

[00:42:45] there's a certain level of that that can be fun. I think Joss Whedon did that stuff very well.

[00:42:49] And it's just like, got very caught, like copied over into other things. Um, but yeah, I don't know.

[00:42:54] It's a weird, like this feels very sincere. Yeah. Uh, whereas a lot of action movies today

[00:42:59] don't. I really enjoyed the, um, relationship through the walkie talkie with, uh, Bruce Willis

[00:43:06] and Reginald L. Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but man, it really fucking sucked the air out of the

[00:43:12] room and he's like, I shot a kid. I was the only one in the room and I was like, Oh, yes. Uh, that,

[00:43:21] that plays a little bit differently now than it did back in 88. Holy shit. Let's not interrogate

[00:43:26] the fact that the triumphant end of this movie is him being able to kill people again.

[00:43:29] Yeah. Yeah. The cop is getting his mojo back. Yeah. Man, what a fucking, like, I was so like

[00:43:37] locked into this movie and John McClane's like, what's your deal? He's like, I shot a kid. And

[00:43:42] I'm like, he's like, he had a ray gun. It looked real enough. I'm like, it's tearing him up though.

[00:43:48] You know, he can really feel it. Yeah. He just, he just became a death jockey cop instead of,

[00:43:53] you know, stop, stop being a cop. Yeah. Uh, something I did notice I, in my head,

[00:43:59] in the movie he does just say, I shot a kid. So it's not, he doesn't, it's not for sure that he

[00:44:04] killed the kid. That's true. Which doesn't make it much better. But yeah, he did say, I shot a kid,

[00:44:12] which is yeah. Unfortunate. But yeah. Like Mike said to like the big triumph at the end of the movie

[00:44:17] is like, I can shoot people again. Is that, is that a big triumph? In 1988 it was. I guess so.

[00:44:25] And he does come back and die hard too. Oh, does he really? He does. Yeah. Again,

[00:44:29] die hard too. Is the same thing as the first one. Oh yeah. Uh, and to the degree they bring back

[00:44:32] Alan, they might bring back Argyle. I think it die hard too. It's been, that's the one I've seen

[00:44:37] the least. Um, well out of the first three, the four and five, like whatever. Yeah. Uh, but yeah,

[00:44:42] out of the first three I've seen two the least. So I don't really remember it other than

[00:44:47] William Sadler's in it. Right. William Sadler's the bad guy. I think he's the main villain.

[00:44:50] Yeah. William Sadler who, uh, lives in Hudson Valley. I think we ran into him at the movie

[00:44:53] theater once, didn't we? Maybe. Were you there with me? I don't know. I peed next to him at the

[00:44:58] midnight. I was at the midnight screening of inception and I went to the bathroom before it

[00:45:05] started and William Sadler was the urinal next to me. Hell yeah. What does, what does he do again?

[00:45:10] What is he from? Uh, he is the grim reaper from Bill and Ted's Bogus. Oh, he had come into

[00:45:14] Alto a couple of times. Yeah. So I had seen him there. Yes. Um, yeah, no, I wasn't,

[00:45:20] I wasn't at the, I didn't look at his dick in the back. Uh, but he's the villain in die

[00:45:26] hard too. Oh, okay. That's cool. Yeah. Um, yeah, he's in that. Um, and then die hard

[00:45:30] with the vengeance of horse cat, Sam Jackson, Jeremy irons. Again, that movie rules. Uh,

[00:45:33] it's just really terrific. I might watch that when I go home. I was thinking the same thing.

[00:45:37] We should have watched it last night. Honestly, we should have thrown that on after hundreds

[00:45:40] of beavers just done all the die hard movies. Could have been a fun time. Could have

[00:45:44] been fun. It would have been cool. Yeah. Uh, pop culture Jeopardy was fun though. Pop culture

[00:45:47] Jeopardy was fun. Have you, have you watched a pop culture Jeopardy?

[00:45:50] I have not. No, it's pretty fun. I wanted to be on it and I'm a little mad that I'm not.

[00:45:53] What is that? Uh, so it's a new, it's a new spinoff of Jeopardy. We got way off topic.

[00:46:00] It's a new spinoff of Jeopardy hosted by Colin Jost. Uh, okay. And it's all pop culture questions.

[00:46:05] Uh, so it's all movies, TV, music, right up your alley. Uh, some internet stuff, all that.

[00:46:11] Yeah. Mike is very good. I, I applied to be on it. Uh, and I, so, but the thing is,

[00:46:16] put them on blast Mike, do it. Yeah. The thing is, I, uh, I, I'm not going to say which two people

[00:46:22] I invited to be on my team. Uh, but there are two people who've been on the podcast before. Uh,

[00:46:28] nobody in this room. I did not ask Mike D to be on it. That's okay. I'm not good at the rapid

[00:46:33] fire trivia. So it's fine. Uh, but, uh, yeah. So the way this Jeopardy works is you have teams of

[00:46:39] three. Okay. Uh, and so when you're applying to be on it, you had to have your team ready and all

[00:46:43] three of you had to take a test. I did my tests and I think I did very well on it. I think the,

[00:46:48] I think the other ones tanked it for me. You got to resubmit, get yourself a new team. Well,

[00:46:53] once you submit, you can't submit for another year. What? Yeah. Damn. That's whack. Yeah.

[00:46:57] I guess, I guess that makes sense because then they'd be getting like fucking million

[00:47:02] repeats. Like you didn't accept me the first time. Uh, yeah. So I, my goal is to one day be on

[00:47:07] pop culture Jeopardy and win the $300,000 cash prize. Uh, I believe in you. I think I could do it. I think

[00:47:12] you could do it. Yeah. That's very similar to the plan Hans had in die hard to get 300 or 600,000,

[00:47:19] 600,000. 600,000. Oh yeah. 600,000. Yeah. 600,000. All that trouble for less than a million

[00:47:24] dollars. I know it was the eighties, but Jesus Christ, they got to make sure they're dead

[00:47:29] because they're stealing that much money. That's right. I tried to bring it back. It worked.

[00:47:35] It worked. Speaking of Hans Gruber, Alan Rickman. Oh man, what a guy. What a guy. He was so fucking

[00:47:40] good. He's unbelievable. I feel like, you know, so many of us, I think we all grew up with Alan

[00:47:44] Rickman just playing severus Snape in the Harry Potter movies. Yeah. Uh, where he, and he is very

[00:47:48] much a highlight of those movies. He's incredible in it. Uh, and so I knew him as Snape first and then

[00:47:53] kind of saw it die hard later. Um, I assume it's the same for you, Kyle. Oh yeah. Well, you saw die

[00:47:58] hard three days ago. Exactly. Yeah. He's like, yeah, but then I watched all the Harry Potter

[00:48:03] for the first time. There's never been a better time to get into Harry Potter than right now.

[00:48:08] I'm 2024. It's not problematic at all. Not even a little bit. Uh, yeah. What'd you think

[00:48:17] of Alan Rickman? And man, he was so good. Cause like you said, I know him as severus Snape

[00:48:22] who was like this antagonist turn protagonist, like complicated character, very quiet and

[00:48:32] watching him fucking go nuts. Sometimes it was really great. And like the scene where he, uh,

[00:48:36] John McClane finds them by like the vents and shit. It's like, what are you doing? He's like,

[00:48:41] ah, ah, he starts freaking out. Yeah. He was so good, but it was really cool to see him in this

[00:48:47] context. And man, he was so young. Is this his first movie? If I'm remembering correctly,

[00:48:52] I think you may be correct. I'm going to, I'm pretty sure it is. There's no way. Yeah. No,

[00:48:57] he, he, his career started really late. Really? Yeah. I mean, I think he was a theater actor

[00:49:00] for a long time. Okay. Yeah. The first film. Yeah. Yep. I think also I lied. I don't,

[00:49:05] I didn't know Rickman from Harry Potter. I knew him from galaxy quest. That's right.

[00:49:09] Thor's hammer. Yeah. That was my first, uh, it's all on Rickman. Uh, yeah, no, diehard was in

[00:49:15] fact, Alan Rickman's first film. Wow. Yeah. That's great. What a fucking banger. Yes. Well,

[00:49:20] not only a banger movie, but a banger performance for your first film out and like shit. And like the

[00:49:27] movie gives him this grand entrance to the entrance is so when that back of that truck opens and like

[00:49:33] the henchmen start filing out and he's just, they like split part, the seas to reveal Alan Rickman.

[00:49:38] You're just like, yeah, yes. She's like in 2024. That's like, Holy shit. What a reveal. But at the

[00:49:43] time I can imagine people are like, Ooh, I guess that's our bad guy. Yeah. He's the bad guy, I

[00:49:48] guess. But, uh, yeah, he's given like a world-class performance in this movie. He's so good. Uh,

[00:49:53] nobody has ever been better at just like putting in subtle pauses in his dialogue. Um, and he,

[00:49:57] he uses that a lot in the Harry Potter movies. Um, but, uh, he, he does that a lot in this movie too.

[00:50:01] And it's so good. Also really just rocks that trench coat. Yes. Like, Holy shit. No one has

[00:50:06] ever worn a trench coat better. Yes. So he, is he supposed to be German? Yes. Yes. Yeah. He,

[00:50:13] I will say amazing performance, pretty fast and loose with the accent. Yeah. The accents do change

[00:50:19] a lot. Yeah. A little bit. But like his, like the straight up switch, like the American accent,

[00:50:24] like when he was like tricking Bruce, uh, John McClane, like that's so fucking good. Yeah.

[00:50:28] Yeah. He's like just full caught. And he's like, Oh, I guess I have to pretend to be a hostage now.

[00:50:34] Yeah. That, that scene is so fun because you're watching it. Uh, and you haven't seen die hard

[00:50:38] a million times. You're thinking to yourself like, how can McClane be this stupid? He hasn't seen him

[00:50:42] yet. Yeah. Well, yeah, he hasn't seen him yet. So you're like, you're thinking to yourself like,

[00:50:45] Oh man, he hasn't seen him yet. He's actually trusting him. Like what? Uh, and then of course

[00:50:49] he's not that stupid. Uh, the unloaded gun, the unloaded gun. I think I'm

[00:50:55] when he like, I forget what he says. His name is he's like Bill Clay and a bill

[00:51:01] there's like, uh, William. Yeah. And he looks at the thing and it says clay W and then F

[00:51:07] for female. So I was like, Oh, you sneaky motherfucker. But man, just, there's so much great shit

[00:51:19] in this movie. Yeah. Uh, I, I did see pretty recently. There's a, the scene where there,

[00:51:25] where the cops are getting ready to take the building and they're like trying to come break

[00:51:28] in the front door and they're like one of the henchmen gets ready to like shoot them

[00:51:32] and he like steals the candy bar. Uh, the director of the movie said like that small choice kept

[00:51:38] that guy alive so much longer. I was going to kill him off like right there, but he's like,

[00:51:44] just, he's an interesting, he's a character now. Yeah. But I, and it's just like little moments

[00:51:48] like that. They're just great. Yeah. I love the, the henchman at the front desk. Yeah. Like

[00:51:53] when they, when the, when Al comes in and he's like talking to me, he starts complaining that

[00:51:57] his sports bets not going right. And I was like, man, that is, you are selling this, my guy.

[00:52:04] He's got 50 bucks riding on these guys. So good. Uh, yeah, that's so good. I love when Al

[00:52:09] shows up because they are doing a good job of making it seem like nothing has happened. Yeah. Oh yeah.

[00:52:14] And McLean is watching it from the, from the top, like, no, no, no. He's trying to figure out

[00:52:17] how to get his attention. And he throws a body out the window.

[00:52:22] That's one way to do it.

[00:52:24] He just keeps going. See, cause, um, that was one of the scenes that I hadn't, I had no real

[00:52:29] knowledge of. So I was like, all right, how is he getting, he can't, he's having trouble breaking

[00:52:33] through the glass. He's going to like throw the chair is like, he's going to see some glass

[00:52:37] on the ground and like, Oh, maybe something is wrong. Then a whole ass fucking body is hurling

[00:52:42] out the window. I was like, Holy shit. Yeah. And that's of course, welcome to the party,

[00:52:47] pal, which is light up his car with the machine gun. And he's just like, ah, yeah. Turn

[00:52:53] on my car. This was James. Yeah. I love Alec driving backwards, like over the, like over the

[00:52:59] edge of that thing. Uh, and then later in the movie, you see his car is still there. Like

[00:53:03] just like, like hours later. That's a, that's a tomorrow problem, right? I mean, I understand

[00:53:09] it's not the priority. Someone's got to come up to deal with that. But I love that continuity

[00:53:13] that like they were, you know, like hours later in the movie, that car is still there.

[00:53:16] Yeah. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah. Even diehard with its problematic ending that the cop gets

[00:53:21] to shoot people again, says a cab because when McLean is broadcasting from the roof on

[00:53:25] the emergency only broadcast channel, he's like, they've just taken over. They cut to

[00:53:30] the dispatch room. It's like, sir, this is for emergencies. I just said there are terrorists,

[00:53:35] ma'am. Yeah. No shit. Ladies, I'm going to order a pizza. Another great line. Yeah. This

[00:53:44] is for the most action movies are missing these days. It's also very funny. Yes. Yeah.

[00:53:49] Yeah. But I mean, that's a weird, I mean, because there are a lot of like action and comedies

[00:53:53] these days, right? You know, I feel like that's a different thing. Oh, a hundred percent.

[00:53:57] I think John Wick four gets the closest when John Wick falls down the stairs for five minutes.

[00:54:02] So good. It's really fucking funny. It's the fact that he got all the way up the stairs and

[00:54:08] then gets kicked in the chest and falls all the way down. Yes. Oh man. Yeah. I think the

[00:54:15] John Wick's do a good job with that. But yeah, I, you know, I'm thinking of movies like a bullet

[00:54:19] train or the fall guy, David Leach joints, I guess. Yeah. Where they're like, these are

[00:54:23] like very much action comedies where it's like they're action movies, but they're also

[00:54:26] like pretty goofy, pretty silly characters that are just to be funny. Yeah. Right. And

[00:54:32] you can tell there's like comedians doing improv and all that, all that kind of stuff.

[00:54:35] Whereas diehard is like a very straightforward action. Like I wouldn't describe it as an

[00:54:39] action comedy. Yeah. But it is an action movie that is really funny. Yeah. And it's a weird

[00:54:43] like splitting hairs kind of thing, maybe. But it like, it's obviously it feels totally

[00:54:46] very different from the fall guy, which also I think rules. I'm a big fall guy. I really

[00:54:50] enjoyed the fall. I haven't seen that yet. Check it out. Mike D I think was mixed on it. I

[00:54:53] was mixed. I thought, I mean, I thought it was okay. It's kind of long. I got a week in

[00:54:56] Connecticut. I'll probably find my way to watch it. It's good. I think you'll like

[00:55:00] it probably most likely bullet train and movie. I liked bullet train. I've come

[00:55:05] around pretty huge. I saw bullet train in the theaters. You didn't like it that

[00:55:08] much. Didn't like it that much. And then I watched it drunk with some friends on

[00:55:11] discord. I was like, this is the best movie of it. It fucking rules. It's a lot of

[00:55:15] fun. Yeah. I liked bullet train. I haven't seen it since theaters, but I remember

[00:55:18] liking it. Yeah. I've seen it. I think it's like three or four times. Actually, that's

[00:55:22] a lot of times to watch bullet train. I watch it like by myself. I think I

[00:55:26] watched it with, I think I watched it with my girlfriend and then every year

[00:55:30] like I got a friend, a group of friends, we get to pick together on St. Patrick's

[00:55:33] day. And like at the end of the day, we're just like drunk and tired. And I, and I

[00:55:36] will just grab the remote, put a movie on. Hell yeah. And I was like, it was like

[00:55:39] one of the first things that popped up on Netflix. I was like, that's good

[00:55:42] enough. There you go. Sometimes it's what you gotta watch. Exactly. Whatever just gets

[00:55:46] fed to you. Exactly. The algorithm, man. Yeah. The algorithm is like bullet

[00:55:51] trains going to hit the spot. The algorithm could have fed you die hard. It could have

[00:55:58] and it didn't. And that feels like a mistake on its part. No longer on the side of the

[00:56:02] algorithm. Speaking of algorithms, uh, I don't know how you guys watch die hard, but I watched

[00:56:09] it on Disney plus, which felt very weird. Weird. That's weird. We watched an Amazon

[00:56:14] prime. Okay. It's on a few services right now. I mean, I think, uh, it's on Hulu and

[00:56:18] because Disney owns Hulu. Like it's yeah, that like Disney plus and Hulu are like the

[00:56:22] same thing. Yeah. There's a lot of things on both. There are some weird things that you

[00:56:26] can watch on Disney plus right now. Yeah. Like you can watch the first Omen on Disney

[00:56:31] plus. Oh, uh, you can watch need to learn. Yeah. You can watch like late night with the

[00:56:34] devil on Disney plus. Nice. There's a lot like a lot of extra. Yeah. Kids are just

[00:56:39] going to like log into Disney plus and leave scarred at some point. I hope that's the

[00:56:43] case. It's a weird, it's a weird. Disney plus has been like that overseas since the

[00:56:48] beginning where it's just been like, it has whatever. Uh, but for whatever reason

[00:56:51] in the United States, they like cultivated a squeaky clean. Like we only play, we like

[00:56:55] the risky, the riskiest thing on here is the Simpsons. Yeah. I feel like, I feel

[00:56:59] like they kind of need to do that. Cause I don't think parents want to subscribe

[00:57:02] to it. Like maybe if it was like too easy for their kids, just like jump in there and

[00:57:06] start watching weird things. I guess so. I think you like actively have to go into

[00:57:09] your settings and be like, allow this rating and stuff. But yeah, it was weird.

[00:57:15] I was just like Mickey Mouse die hard. You see a trailer for like Star Wars skeleton

[00:57:23] crew or something before, uh, before these kids look like they're having fun. You can

[00:57:27] a motherfucker. Does anyone here have the ability to say yippee kaya motherfucker as

[00:57:32] Mickey Mouse? Cause whoa, I can't. That was pretty good. Beautiful. I'm not even gonna

[00:57:39] try. I've been watching a lot of, a lot of Mickey Mouse. So yeah. Can you do a bluey

[00:57:49] yippee kaya motherfucker? I am not a Australian female child. So no. Fair. Fair enough. What

[00:57:59] else about diehard guys? Argyle. Yeah. Yeah. Every cut to Argyle in the limo. Chef's

[00:58:05] so funny. Really good. With the giant teddy bear. He's talking to the bear. Yeah, that's

[00:58:10] great. I do respect that, that this man just sat in his car for this long waiting for a

[00:58:19] phone call from this man. He just met like he was like trying to reconcile things with

[00:58:23] his, like, uh, his wife and just like, you never, never once they go, man, fuck it. I don't

[00:58:28] need to be here anymore. Like really just is really good at his job. Yeah. He's very committed

[00:58:33] for it's his first time driving a limo. Yeah. Huge. Huge. Yeah. And he, and he was

[00:58:37] hired for this to drive John McClane around. So this is what he's doing. I just feel like,

[00:58:41] I feel like in the year 2024, somebody's doing that. Like they haven't called me. It's been

[00:58:46] 40 minutes. I got other shit to do. I'm out. Oh yeah. We used to have movies and we used

[00:58:50] to be a society. Also did Argyle kill that guy? He one punched him. He drove the limo

[00:59:00] into the side of the truck and I'm pretty sure that guy died. It would be, it would

[00:59:06] make sense, but he did just like punch him in the head. Right? Like I, I, I did he

[00:59:11] punch him or he gets, he got out of his, of the limo and he punched him. Oh, I thought

[00:59:15] he just slammed his car into the side of the limo or the side of the truck and the guy

[00:59:18] was dead.

[00:59:22] But this movie Fox man. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. The one, the one, there's one moment

[00:59:27] that you feel like, Oh, this is a movie, like a really clunky. We told you we were laughing

[00:59:32] at it when we watched it. The one line of exposition when, when McClane shows up or like

[00:59:37] bad exposition where McClane shows up to the office and he asked the security guard,

[00:59:41] like, Oh, I'm here to see, uh, does he say McClane or something? He says Mr. McClane.

[00:59:45] Yeah. Uh, and well, yeah, it's a, it's a whole thing where he, uh, in, I really love

[00:59:49] this part of the exposition thing. Um, the first part of this getting the last name thing.

[00:59:53] Yes. Yeah. That's really good. Where, yeah, he asked for Mrs. McClane. He said, Oh, go

[00:59:56] look her up in the directory. Mike looks up McClane. You're Mike. You're really far away.

[01:00:01] My episode, I'm too far away. Oh yeah. You're just like holding it. Yeah.

[01:00:06] Start over. Uh, yeah. I really love the first part of this scene where, uh, he is like,

[01:00:11] he asked for Mrs. McClane and he says to look her up in the directory. So he does.

[01:00:15] And can't find her. And then he looks up Holly Gennaro name is there. She's not using the

[01:00:19] last name McClane. It tells you everything you need to know about the relationship and

[01:00:23] everything. Uh, and then right afterwards he asked the guy like, Oh yeah, here, here she

[01:00:28] is like, Oh yeah. Mr. Nero 30th floor. They're the last people here. Like just a weird, like,

[01:00:32] yeah. Then why'd you make me look? They're the only ones in the building. Okay, man. Maybe

[01:00:39] just send me to that floor. Yeah. Yeah. Like if she's here, she has to be on that floor.

[01:00:45] I also, I especially love the layout of this tower. That's the, because you have like

[01:00:51] the, you've the 30th floor, which is like their office. Then you have 31, which is just

[01:00:57] construction, I believe. Or is 31 the computer? 31 is computers. But a lot of the floors are

[01:01:01] under construction. Yeah. A lot of floors are under construction. Like, you know, um, Tagaki

[01:01:05] says that. Yeah. But like, I love that there's just a floor that is computers. Well, I mean,

[01:01:11] there's the thing I never really noticed before. Uh, when I'm when I've watched it,

[01:01:15] where, right. We, Takagi tells him like, Oh yeah, a lot of it's under construction or

[01:01:18] whatever. But right after the terrorist attack, McLean runs up the, uh, staircase

[01:01:23] stairwell to different floors. And I never noticed he says out loud 31 computers, 32

[01:01:28] construction, 33. And like, so he's like telling you, I've never noticed that, but we're

[01:01:34] learning the geography of this. It just feels like a very eighties thing. They'd be

[01:01:37] like, there's a computer floor. Yeah. Right. Like, like, like growing up, you know, I

[01:01:42] mean, it's the eighties. You need a whole floor. Exactly. It reminds me like growing

[01:01:46] up, like in the nineties of like, we had the computer room in your house or like, that's,

[01:01:50] that's where the internet used to be a place you went to. Exactly. And like, that was just

[01:01:57] like a bigger version of that. I'm like, that's the computer floor. Yeah. It just tickled

[01:02:04] me. And the broken glass and the broken glass. Yeah. So good. Yeah. The blood in this movie

[01:02:12] is so good. Like just the trail of blood he leaves, like when his feet are all cut up,

[01:02:19] it is just like gross and so real. It's not just like, oh, there's bloody footprints. Like

[01:02:26] there are pools of blood all over the place. There are. It is so good. I really liked like

[01:02:32] the, him not having shoes on was such like a quick, like little thing. And then they came

[01:02:37] back around like, shoot the glass. Yeah. He knows he's barefoot. So he's like, shoot the glass.

[01:02:42] Yep. But what if we used to have movies?

[01:02:45] Come on. The bit when he has to, uh, Kyle almost broke his chair. The fucking thing holding me up.

[01:02:55] Okay. I don't know where it is. Hold on. Keep talking. Okay. Where he has to, he has to jump

[01:03:00] off the building with the, uh, the fire hose. Oh man. Yeah. And, uh, then like has to like

[01:03:05] kick his way through the glass, shoots the glass. The bit where he's like his feet are up against

[01:03:09] the glass and you see the bloody footprints that are on the glass. Yeah. Yeah. Man movies. We used

[01:03:15] to have them. We used to have movies. I mean, there's the, that moment when the, the roof explodes

[01:03:20] is referenced in Godzilla versus Kong, right? When, when the Kong jumps off something that's

[01:03:26] exploding and he's doing the exact same arms up in the air. Like, yeah, I think you're right.

[01:03:31] Yeah. Uh, I think Adam Wingard has said like he has modeled Kong after Bruce Willis and die

[01:03:35] hard. Yeah. That's incredible. That's fucking bizarre. It's nuts, man. My giant monkey is

[01:03:43] based off John McClane. Yeah. And never forget what they took from us. We used to have die

[01:03:50] hard, but now we have Godzilla X Kong, the new empire, which like I'm not gonna lie. I'm

[01:03:55] gonna see every single one of those movies. Did you guys watch Godzilla X Kong? Yeah, I

[01:03:59] did. Didn't like it. And it's not very good. I watched it, but I kind of had fun with

[01:04:03] it. Yeah. It's worth it for the freaky Dan Stevens. I was sucker for just really dumb

[01:04:08] ass conspiracy bullshit. So like when they're, as soon as they introduce hollow earth and

[01:04:13] the franchise, I was like, yeah, man, the you I'm, I'm going to just like strap in for

[01:04:17] this and I am on board. See my problem with hollow earth is that I'm not against the idea

[01:04:23] of it. Like conceptually, I think it's like a crazy gonzo idea that I have to. Uh, my problem

[01:04:28] with it is that it makes everything else look like normal. So because hollow earth is so

[01:04:32] big, it makes Godzilla and Kong in hollow earth look normal size. Sure. Yeah. So the scale

[01:04:37] of Godzilla X Kong is all over the place. That sucks. That's fair. Like, like Kong looks

[01:04:43] like a normal sized monkey for most of the movie. That's a good point. I don't like that.

[01:04:47] Except when he's using that little monkey as like nunchucks, which is really funny, but

[01:04:52] like that little monkey just looks like a little monkey and he looks like a normal sized monkey.

[01:04:55] I don't know. Like you, you need the scale, the contrast of the scale. Like when they, when

[01:05:00] Kong and Godzilla were fighting by the pyramids, like you have that scale. Right. And I will

[01:05:05] say that scene, Godzilla is just so agile for being this giant dinosaur lizard. I fully

[01:05:13] expect by the next Godzilla Kong movie, the full dropkick from Godzilla. Oh yeah. And the set,

[01:05:19] I will tear my fucking seat off the floor and throw it at the screen and freak the fuck out.

[01:05:24] Yeah. If I see Godzilla do a dropkick, I hope he dunks on somebody like that.

[01:05:29] Yeah. That'd be sick. But yeah, Halloworth, it's awesome. Well, if you give me just like,

[01:05:35] if, uh, if you propose an idea for like a movie or a TV show or anything that is just like

[01:05:39] way is completely out there, makes no goddamn sense. You are going to hook me because I need

[01:05:44] to know how you write yourself out of it. Right. Like, how do you get through this? I need to know.

[01:05:50] Yeah. Like that one show, uh, La Brea, the greatest, the greatest show ever made. I know you

[01:05:55] guys were a big, please do not say where I am a big, all three seasons in like a night or something.

[01:06:03] I don't know if I watched a lot. We watched over weekend season one at Colin. Season one of La Brea

[01:06:09] is the funniest shit in the world. It is a roller coaster that makes no goddamn sense. And then I,

[01:06:15] I tried to watch season two, you know, I think after season three ended or something. Yeah. And I

[01:06:21] was like, Oh, you know what? Let me try and finish it. And I watched like two episodes and I was

[01:06:24] like, you know what? I'm good. It's really, it's rough. I'm good. Season three, even worse.

[01:06:30] It's because they like, they got an extra season to like wrap it up. And I think like this show was

[01:06:37] slated to take like four or five seasons to, to finish. Okay. But like after season two, they were

[01:06:42] like, you're not doing that. Yeah. So wrap it up, buddy. And so they were like, and they didn't

[01:06:48] get a full season. They got six episodes for season three. Okay. So they had six episodes to wrap

[01:06:54] up like three more seasons of story. Yeah. And the way that season two ended was with

[01:07:00] the main character's wife being transported through another wormhole type thing into a

[01:07:07] different time, a different time again. And then dinosaurs showed up and what's the show

[01:07:12] about? There's, there's time travel. I've never heard of this show. Oh man. Like really?

[01:07:17] All right. So do you know the, like, have you heard of the La Brea tar pits? I've heard of

[01:07:23] them. Yeah. Okay. Um, so the, I know of them. So the first, the, the first episode

[01:07:28] starts in Los Angeles near the La Brea tar pits and a sinkhole opens and a bunch of

[01:07:34] people fall into it. What do you think happens to the people who fall into the

[01:07:37] tar pit? I'd imagine they get covered in tar and die. No, see, they fall into 10,000

[01:07:42] BC. Oh, you know, that was probably my next guess. Yeah. A bunch of people just fall

[01:07:49] into 10,000 BC and they then need to figure out what the fuck is going on. Uh, things

[01:07:53] that happen, spoilers for La Brea. So if you're going to watch the show, stop listening for

[01:07:57] a minute, fast forward about 30 seconds, uh, over their time in 10,000 BC, they find people

[01:08:02] from the future who are already down there. They find past like 10,000 BC people. And, uh,

[01:08:09] they also then time traveled to the seventies. That's all season one. Holy fuck. Is there

[01:08:18] like 40 episodes? Well, my God. And, and like, one of the people they find down there is the

[01:08:27] child version of the main character who was from like 2400, like, because the whole deal

[01:08:34] is that future people found a way to time travel back to 10,000 BC and are mining it

[01:08:38] for resources. Huh? Interesting. It sounds wild. I mean, it's just like, it's just like

[01:08:44] the plot of diehard. Yeah. It's a good normal show. It's one of those things where like you,

[01:08:49] they, they gave me this idea and I'm like, I need to know how, how do you write this compared

[01:08:56] to that diehard is fucking grounded. Yeah. Diehard movie fucks. What a picture.

[01:09:05] Oh man. We have hit on so many topics. Yes. I think that's fine. We can keep hitting on

[01:09:10] topics. The Muppets, La Brea. Speaking of, so we watched out hard last night. Yeah. Uh,

[01:09:16] we followed it up with a rap worlds, uh, which I made you guys watch. Uh, but you enjoyed it,

[01:09:24] I think. Yes. Yeah. That's good. It was very funny. I didn't know what I was watching for

[01:09:28] the first 20 minutes. Yeah. It's only an hour long. Yeah. It's 55 minutes. Uh, yeah.

[01:09:32] It's a great film. One of my favorites of the year. Uh, and then when you watched my

[01:09:35] favorite movie of the year of 2024, which is hundreds of beavers and Colin, you had

[01:09:40] seen it already. Yes. I already seen it twice. Yes. Uh, so you're, you're a big hundreds of

[01:09:44] beers fan. Just a hundred percent. And on hundreds of beavers, Mike D this is your first

[01:09:48] time watching my first time watching hundreds of beavers. What'd you think? I, yeah, I had

[01:09:52] a great time. I think it was very fun. I think maybe it's a little long and not that

[01:09:56] it, it like feels too, I don't know. It has a very long beginning. It's like a

[01:10:01] weird, it's a weird way to say that. Um, the first act is a little, a little long

[01:10:06] as you do have like the intro of who this guy is. Yeah. And then he starts

[01:10:10] learning everything. Right. Um, but, but like once you get past that and you get

[01:10:15] into like all the gags and stuff, I had a really, really fun time. Nice. Uh, we are

[01:10:19] also many beers deep. So yes, perfect way to watch that. I think so. Yeah, I think so. Uh,

[01:10:24] Kyle, you have not seen it. I assume I have not had a chance now, man. You should watch

[01:10:28] hundreds of beers. I remember listening to you talk about it on whatever episode of the

[01:10:33] podcast it was. And I have a friend, whenever I hear you like talk about kind of like an

[01:10:38] out there weird movie, he's a big, like weird movie guy. Yeah. And I texted him. I'm like,

[01:10:43] Hey, have you heard of this movie? Hundreds of beavers. And he goes, what the fuck are

[01:10:46] you talking about? And I told him about it and I'm like, check it out. I think it's on

[01:10:50] Amazon. And he texted me like four days later and he goes, this movie is my personality

[01:10:54] now. It's like, it's the most amazing movie I've ever seen in my entire life. It's so funny.

[01:11:00] I've been converting people into beavers heads this whole, this whole year. Uh, it is, it's,

[01:11:06] it's my number one of the year. It's I, and I, I don't think it's going to be topped. Um,

[01:11:11] by the time we get to our top 10 episodes, so which will be soon. I haven't watched too

[01:11:14] many movies this year, too many new movies this year. You have kids at home. I get it. I got

[01:11:18] kids at home. I think you don't watch that many movies anyway. I mean, before I had kids,

[01:11:22] you just watched die hard for the first time. Yeah. Before I had kids, I would get out to

[01:11:26] the movies like once a month. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I've seen like maybe seven movies

[01:11:30] in theaters this year. And so like craving the hunter man, it might be my top movie of

[01:11:35] the year. I went to the movie. I went to the movie theaters like 48 times this year.

[01:11:41] Hell yeah. Damn. I, I certainly went more than that, but I don't know what the exact number

[01:11:45] is. I could, I could find it. I would hope that you went to the, went to a movie theater

[01:11:49] more than I did. Uh, yeah, no. Uh, yeah. I mean, Craven couldn't possibly be a number

[01:11:57] one. What would be your number one? I'd have to look at my letterbox and see like what actually

[01:12:01] came out this year that I saw. Yeah. Um, that's the hard part. Somebody vamp. Well,

[01:12:06] speaking of letterbox, speaking of letterbox. No, I don't know. So one, I last time I was

[01:12:12] on the end of year episode, I said that I was going to actually use my letterbox this year.

[01:12:16] Oh yeah. I'm going to log every movie I watched for the first time. So I wasn't going to log

[01:12:19] a bunch of rewatches cause we watched too many movies and I still don't need people knowing

[01:12:23] how often I watch money ball or pitch perfect. There are numbers that belong to me and me

[01:12:28] only not the world, both five star movies. Um, but so I did, I did log every first time

[01:12:34] watching. I had a goal of a hundred for this year and it's currently what December 22nd

[01:12:39] as of last night after adding rap world, uh, I'm at 94 movies, new, uh, first time watches

[01:12:46] new to me movies. Okay. Yeah. So first time watches, you gotta watch six more movies by the

[01:12:51] end of the year. Correct. Okay. So you can do it. I think I can do it. And I'm going to be

[01:12:55] at my parents' house for the next six days. Yeah. Uh, and my parents go to bed at nine

[01:13:00] o'clock. So I got their nice 70 inch TV in the basement and every streaming service. So

[01:13:06] I think I can do it. What are the movies? Do you have anything lined up? Do you know

[01:13:09] what you want? I don't, I'm really bad about actually like making, making a list of movies

[01:13:12] I want to watch, but I'll figure it out. I do know. I do want to watch late night with

[01:13:16] the devil. That's one that's, I mean, like it's good in there. Uh, think about watching.

[01:13:20] Um, so that's probably gonna be one that I watch, but otherwise I've, I have nothing

[01:13:23] really lined up. So taking suggestions. Fair enough. Um, you already saw hundreds of beavers

[01:13:28] did a kill. If you can find kill. Okay. Indian action movie. It's my number two movie

[01:13:32] of the year. Colin's a big triple R guy. I am a big triple R guy. I mean,

[01:13:36] who isn't probably Kyle. I haven't seen it. I don't think he has two kids. I don't think

[01:13:41] he's going to find time for triple R. It is three hours. It is three hours long. There's

[01:13:45] intermission. So I said, I've only made it out to the theater seven times this year.

[01:13:49] Yeah. I was dead on. I've only made it to the theater seven times. I've seen eight movies

[01:13:53] from 2024. Uh, the beekeeper, which I saw at home. We fucked Argyle, which is fine. We did

[01:13:59] not fuck monkey man. Movie was pretty good. Fall guy King Kong and Godzilla or whatever

[01:14:05] the fuck this movie is called X con Cole and the new empire. Wow. To the punctuation,

[01:14:11] uh, Wolverine and Deadpool venom and Craven. That's all I've seen in theaters. That's a

[01:14:18] lineup. That is three of the seven movies I saw in theaters were Marvel movies.

[01:14:22] That sounds about right. Honestly, of all the movies there, fall guys broke my favorite.

[01:14:29] I think fall guy out of, out of this list. I do think fall guy is probably my favorite.

[01:14:34] Okay. Um, I got time to figure it out. I mean, of course you guys will submit your, uh,

[01:14:37] your clips for the year end episode. Um, I do want to catch hundreds of beavers and if I can,

[01:14:43] I would like to try and get out to see notes for out to as well. Oh yeah. That's going to be one

[01:14:47] that I see before the end of the year. Yeah, that's for sure. Um, yeah. I mean, the reason we're

[01:14:52] doing this podcast now is because we couldn't do a nose for out to time, man. It would've been

[01:14:56] cool to do notes for out to watch us all go see notes for out to be like, you know what? I'm

[01:15:00] actually free right now. I think, uh, we were talking about maybe doing like a, you know,

[01:15:07] a regular podcast episode that's just notes for out to and then doing our top 10 movies

[01:15:11] of the year episode. Yeah. Uh, so we might do something like that. It looks so fucking good.

[01:15:15] I can't wait. I'm a big Robert Eggers guy. Yeah. The witch. So good. Lighthouse. So good.

[01:15:21] Northman people didn't like as much. I think it rules. That was incredible. I haven't

[01:15:26] ever forget the way that I watched the witch for the first time. I've seen the witch twice.

[01:15:29] So I have watched it like on my TV with like decent sound system. Yeah. The first time

[01:15:34] I watched it was in a, was in a airport on my laptop waiting for a flight. And it sounds

[01:15:41] like the ideal way to watch that movie. It is the worst way to watch that movie because

[01:15:45] a, that movie is very unsettling and very upsetting. Sure. Yeah. And I am just like very

[01:15:51] concerned that people are watching me watch this movie. Oh yeah. Cause I'm like sitting

[01:15:56] there like, like pushing my like screen down a little bit. I'm like, don't know and look

[01:16:01] at what I'm doing. I'm very into this, but please don't acknowledge that. I should put

[01:16:06] some porn on the screen so people don't think I'm a freak. I'm being a normal person. I'm

[01:16:11] not watching the witch in a movie theater like a fucking weirdo. That's amazing. I saw the

[01:16:17] witch in theaters when it came out. Did you see it in theaters too? I think so. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[01:16:21] So did we see it together? I don't think we saw it together, but I think we might've

[01:16:24] did a podcast about it. I think we did. I'll check the minutes. Yeah. Check the minutes

[01:16:28] in that column, please. Uh, but yeah, I saw it in the, you know, the real

[01:16:31] Galleria here at Poughkeepsie. Uh, and I remember very specifically, there was like a

[01:16:35] really obnoxious group of teenagers like in the row right behind me. Uh, and so

[01:16:40] right before the movie started, actually got up and moved to another spot of the

[01:16:43] theater and they made note of it. Uh, and then they moved. They were like

[01:16:48] target acquired. Yeah. What a bunch of fuckers. I know. But then the movie

[01:16:52] started and they were being obnoxious for the first like 20 minutes. Then they

[01:16:56] got like reluctant. They got it. It won them over. Yeah, exactly. Which was kind

[01:17:01] of cool. Uh, at least it wasn't a big fat smelly guy snoring through the whole

[01:17:06] movie. At least it was craving the hunter that happened during that's true. If it was

[01:17:10] like a good movie, it might've added to the movie. Honestly, it made it a little

[01:17:14] better. It made the story at least better. Yeah. And we have something to talk

[01:17:18] about. Fuck the movie. It was the guy there. No, if that had happened during

[01:17:24] like Nosferatu, I would've been fucking furious. Oh yeah. I ordered, I went to

[01:17:28] see a quiet place and there was these teenagers, you know, if there's ever a

[01:17:33] movie that you shouldn't be fucking talking during, you gotta be quiet. Yeah. Uh, and

[01:17:37] there are these teenagers talking, uh, you know, and not, not even like being

[01:17:40] obnoxious, but just the fact that they were talking during the movie where the

[01:17:44] whole point is nobody talks. Yeah. Um, and some guy stood up and was like, will

[01:17:48] you shut the fuck up? And one guy yelled at him and was like, I forget

[01:17:52] whatever. There was like one exchange back and forth. Yeah. And then, uh, he sat

[01:17:56] back down and they would just, that was it. They locked in. So that guy's a hero.

[01:18:01] Yeah. I was like, yeah. I, someone threatened to call the cops on me at a

[01:18:05] movie a couple of weeks ago because I asked them to stop talking. Really?

[01:18:09] Yeah. So, uh, my girlfriend and I went to go see a Nora, which you haven't seen

[01:18:13] that, that movie is incredible. It's very good. It is so good. It is so fucking

[01:18:17] funny, but, um, there's like maybe 12 people in this theater watching this at

[01:18:23] 6 PM on a Tuesday. And, um, in our, in like our MC has like the reclining

[01:18:29] chairs that are like coupled seats. Right. So my girlfriend and I are in our

[01:18:34] seats and there's like two seats and then like two women probably in their

[01:18:38] sixties, like in the next seats. Right. And they are talking the entire

[01:18:43] fucking movie. God, one of them's on her phone. They're both talking. They have a

[01:18:48] comment about every fucking line. I'm like trying to ignore them. Yeah. But

[01:18:52] like there's a couple of parts of the movie where it gets like pretty quiet and

[01:18:56] like they're talking just gets very, very noticeable. And it's like probably an

[01:19:01] hour and 10 minutes in the movie. I've just had enough and I lean over and I go,

[01:19:04] Hey, can you please stop talking? Just like not, I said, please, I was polite. I

[01:19:09] wasn't like, you didn't yell at them. I wasn't like being nice, but like you

[01:19:13] weren't being a hero and standing up and yelling in their face. Yeah. Yeah. I was,

[01:19:17] but I was like, Hey, just please stop talking. And one of them looks at me and goes,

[01:19:21] you've been laughing the whole movie and I'm like, it's a comedy. Yeah. That's

[01:19:26] allowed. Yeah. She's like, that's just as annoying. And the other one, the other

[01:19:28] woman's like, are you kidding me right now? I was like, all right, just shut the

[01:19:32] fuck up. Really? And then the other, one of them goes, I'm going to call 911 on

[01:19:36] you. I'm just like, go do it. I'm begging you. Yeah. I really wanted them to do.

[01:19:46] So it would have been really funny. But after, at that point they stopped like having

[01:19:50] conversations, but they would then start laughing in the most obnoxious way

[01:19:55] possible. As anyone listening to this episode has realized probably my laugh is

[01:19:58] annoying as hell. It's very loud and it's obnoxious. I own that. But they like

[01:20:03] started doing like a really loud, obnoxious laugh at anything. And there's

[01:20:07] like a point where a guy mispronounces the word touche in the movie. He just says

[01:20:11] touche and they just yell the word touche while laughing. And I'm just like, I'm not

[01:20:17] gonna get mad at you for laughing because like it's comedy. It's comedy. So

[01:20:21] you're not going to get the satisfaction of me like telling you to stop doing

[01:20:24] that. But the movie ends and like they are sitting like the way that we had come

[01:20:29] into the row and like is the in like that going by them would get us to the door

[01:20:33] closer to the exit of the theater. Right. My girlfriend gets up and walks the

[01:20:37] other way. She goes, we are walking this way. We are not confronting these people.

[01:20:40] We are taking the long way. Colin was about to fight to a woman. I wanted the

[01:20:45] confrontation. But mostly people suck at going to movies. It's unfortunate. I've

[01:20:50] had to tell a lot of people. I guess a lot of people put their phones away.

[01:20:53] Watching the first omen woman's like given birth to the antichrist and this

[01:20:57] woman in front of me is like scrolling Twitter. That's the worst. Like I'm just

[01:21:01] like, put your phone away. What did you come here for? If you're not like

[01:21:05] watch the climax of the movie. Why are you here? Yeah, it's one thing if people

[01:21:09] are like, it's also it's very annoying. But like if somebody is like texting,

[01:21:13] like because you know, you can see their screen because it's the only bit of

[01:21:16] light. Yeah, you can see exactly what they're doing. And it's like if they're

[01:21:19] texting somebody like whatever. But if you look at the look over and they're

[01:21:22] like on Instagram. Yeah, what the fuck are you like? What are we doing? Are you

[01:21:26] not here for the escapism? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. The joy of not having to look at

[01:21:32] your phone for three hours or watch a movie. Have fun. Enjoy it. Argyle would never.

[01:21:37] Argyle would never. Yes. A cell phones didn't exist. Also,

[01:21:42] car phones did though. Car phones did. And he had a car phone and he was calling

[01:21:46] up all the honeys in Los Angeles. Could you imagine being Argyle in that

[01:21:52] situation for like, I don't know if Die Hard takes place in real time. Probably

[01:21:57] close to right. The movie's about two hours and all the shit that goes down.

[01:22:03] Yeah, I think it takes place over the course of the whole night. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:22:06] Yeah. I don't think it takes place over two hours, but yeah. Roughly just how

[01:22:10] long until he realized there was a terrorist attack going on above this.

[01:22:15] That's what I was saying. He only notices because he's got the radio on. Exactly.

[01:22:18] And they say it. How many hours was he just hanging out and he tries to drive out

[01:22:22] in the thing closes. Yeah. Crazy. I couldn't imagine it. Dude. Yeah. Also like I want to

[01:22:29] know his exact thought when he sees a van drive out of another out of a truck. He's

[01:22:35] like, that's weird. Incredible. Oh man. Any other die hard thoughts guys? Any, any

[01:22:43] random scenes that you wanted to give a shout out to you? Anything that you

[01:22:46] think warrants attention? It's movie Fox, man. It's all the little details. Like

[01:22:52] the, the, the moment when he McClain first comes to the, like that elevator, the top

[01:22:59] of the elevator shaft and there's like the playboy bunnies or whatever. Right.

[01:23:03] The porn on the wall. And he like takes a note. He says like, Hey girls or whatever

[01:23:07] as a joke to them. Yeah. But then the next time he runs by, he like touches them for good

[01:23:11] luck. Yeah. It's like so funny. I don't know. The first time he just like, he just like

[01:23:16] stops. He's like, wait, that's weird. The next time is when he says girls. Yeah. It's

[01:23:22] wonderful. Yeah. The fact that Alan knows all of the ingredients in a Twinkie. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:23:27] It's pretty great. What's even in this stuff? It's like, ah, yellow die. Number five. I

[01:23:32] can't, I can't believe we've gotten this far. Mike, Mike hasn't brought up the, the most

[01:23:35] devastating shot in cinema history where we see 74 cents a gallon for gasoline. Yes.

[01:23:42] Whoa. Yeah. I missed that. It's when, uh, when, when, uh, is when Alan's leaving the

[01:23:47] gas station. Yeah. And he gets, he gets the like radio to like something's going on at

[01:23:51] Nakatomi and he goes outside cause you can see the tower and he's standing outside the gas

[01:23:55] station and you see the sign. It's 74 cents a gallon. Yep. We used to be a country.

[01:24:00] It's proof that this takes place in a fictional world. Wow. That's wild. Yeah. Wild. Uh,

[01:24:09] do you have any plans to continue your diehard watch Kyle? Are you going to try to watch die

[01:24:13] hard too? I will. I don't know when I'll be able to, but I would like to continue the

[01:24:20] franchise at least diehards one, two, and three. Yeah. And I've seen for

[01:24:25] at some point, I don't remember when, um, and I know the fifth one is like

[01:24:31] universally considered pretty bad. I haven't seen four and five. I have them all on Blu-ray

[01:24:35] and just never got around to watching four and five. I'll get around to him at some point.

[01:24:39] Yeah. Oh, I'm fine. Missing. One's got Jack Courtney.

[01:24:41] Fucking dry Courtney. Motherfucker. When the kids showed up in, in diehard, I was like, Oh,

[01:24:46] Hey, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Jai Courtney. And my son, that can't possibly be true.

[01:24:50] And I was like, it's not, I mean, not literally like in the movies, they grow up to be there.

[01:24:55] Oh, I really thought you meant that that was them as children. I was like, there's no way

[01:24:59] the news station showing up at their house and like force and like threatening the baby,

[01:25:05] like the babysitter with deportation so they can interview the children. So satisfying

[01:25:10] when Holly slaps the other. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So good. So good. That's like,

[01:25:16] man, that is one of the more satisfying, just sucker punches. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's so good.

[01:25:22] It reminds me of, this is a weird movie to remember. Anyone seen flight of the Phoenix? Yeah.

[01:25:28] No. When Dennis Quaid punches the fucking nerdy guy. Oh yeah. That is one of the best,

[01:25:34] just most satisfying things. Just watch this dude be a piece of shit for two hours and he just gets

[01:25:37] clocked square in the face. So good. And I haven't seen it. It's fine. Add it to the list.

[01:25:44] Just do it. It might be a spike watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:25:46] I mean, it is worth it for the punch. Yeah. So while I was watching her, it was right after

[01:25:52] I was watching die hard, I was like thinking to myself like, all right, how many of these

[01:25:55] are there? So I went on Wikipedia and, uh, for die hard three, I'm like, is this the one

[01:26:01] with, uh, Sam Jackson? I'm like scrolling really quick. And I get to, um, like the synopsis

[01:26:08] and like towards the top of the synopsis, it says John McLean and his estranged wife, Holly.

[01:26:13] I'm like, there's still a strange later. That is one of the things that that movie

[01:26:17] starts, uh, die with the vengeance and he is still a bottom level street cop. Yeah.

[01:26:22] I mean, he's, he's like at rock bottom and with a venue. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like,

[01:26:26] you've literally saved the world twice. Yeah. And you're still become yes. And, and die

[01:26:31] hard too. They're like together. I think he and Holly. I think so. Yeah. Uh, because he

[01:26:35] said he's, she's on the plane and he's trying to save her. Oh, okay. Uh, she does take

[01:26:38] back the McLean name at the end of the first one. Yes. Yeah, that's true. But

[01:26:42] then in with a vengeance, I think they're fully divorced. Like I think they're just

[01:26:45] like, I think so. Yeah. Damn. And I, I haven't seen four and five, but I know, I

[01:26:50] know she's not in them and she's not in three either. She's only into, uh, John

[01:26:54] McLean, man, he can't win bad husband. Apparently abusive guy seems like a rough,

[01:27:00] rough character. Uh, there was a, they had been talking about doing another die hard at

[01:27:05] some point. Uh, and I remember like the whole like discussion point was they're

[01:27:08] going to do a movie called die hard year one. Uh, which, yeah, I remember this.

[01:27:13] Remember this? We used to talk about in film news on film book cast back in the

[01:27:16] day. Back in the day. Damn. Yo, that film news bumper still hits. Let's, let's,

[01:27:20] Kyle. Let's throw the bumper. Let's throw the bumper in there. Kyle, you still got

[01:27:23] the file on the, I might have it somewhere. Uh, yeah, no, I, uh, uh, so die hard year

[01:27:29] one was going to be die hard six and it was going to have like, it was going to be

[01:27:33] the thing where like Bruce Willis is sort of passing off the franchise to like a

[01:27:36] new person, uh, where half the movie would take place in present day, uh, with

[01:27:41] an older John McLean, but half of it would have been about John McLean's like

[01:27:45] first year on the force, uh, and with a younger character playing John McLean.

[01:27:50] And I think that idea was so dumb because when die hard happens, like that's

[01:27:55] supposed to be the first interesting thing that's happened to John McLean.

[01:27:58] John McLean. Yeah. Like he's not, I don't know. He's just supposed to be a

[01:28:01] regular guy. Just like a beat cop. Like, yeah, nothing special. He's just crazy.

[01:28:06] An ordinary man. Yeah. He's an ordinary man in an extraordinary circumstance.

[01:28:10] That's what makes the movie so fun. Yes. You can't be like retroactive. You're

[01:28:13] like, actually, yeah, he can't go through crazy shit.

[01:28:18] Have experience with this nonsense. Yeah. Going into die hard, the first die

[01:28:22] hard. And I think they never really got far along enough to like cast anybody

[01:28:25] as a young John McLean or anything. And then, you know, with Bruce Willis is like

[01:28:28] kind of, uh, health issues over the last few years. I'm sure that project kind

[01:28:32] of just fizzled out. Yeah. Um, but, uh, yeah, I remember that was like the talking

[01:28:35] point for a while they were trying to do die hard year one. It's, it's a good thing.

[01:28:40] Some things don't happen. Yeah. This is the type of franchise where like it, it really

[01:28:44] didn't need to go past probably the third one. Really? I mean, the first one is such a

[01:28:48] perfect object on its own. It didn't need to make more. However, I'm glad die hard

[01:28:52] three exists. And we already have a movie that is Bruce Willis and a young version

[01:28:56] of himself and Looper and that movie rules. Looper is very good. I also haven't seen

[01:29:01] Looper since it was in theaters. I don't think I have either. I do own it. I don't

[01:29:03] think I've watched it since theater. I got the Blu-ray pretty recently. Yeah. Uh,

[01:29:06] one of these days I have seen Looper. You have seen that movie is really good. It's

[01:29:10] really good. Brian Johnson fans over here. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. Knives out three

[01:29:14] coming out in 2025. Wake up dead man. That's the title. Wait. Yeah. That's

[01:29:22] beautiful. Say less. Yes. It's got a, it's got a big cast of characters. I

[01:29:25] forget most of them. I think Jeremy Renner's in it. Oh baby. All right. Which

[01:29:28] is, which is fun. That's the one you remember is Jeremy Renner. He's like,

[01:29:33] fuck yeah. No matter who you said, I was going to say, oh baby. Oh baby. That

[01:29:38] one, especially I thought was interesting because there's a Jeremy Renner joke

[01:29:41] in glass onion. It's a, it's like his hot sauce or something. Oh yeah. Do you

[01:29:46] think he plays himself? Maybe that'd be really funny. Hot sauce. Yeah.

[01:29:53] Yeah. I saw, I saw people arguing about less Jedi again on Twitter recently. It

[01:29:58] was the anniversary. It was like the seven year anniversary or something. How, how is

[01:30:02] it still happening? You know what's crazy? How are people still yelling about this?

[01:30:04] So I don't, I have Twitter on my phone. I don't use it. I also have threads on my

[01:30:10] phone, which I don't use. The only reason I have it is because like if I'm

[01:30:14] scrolling Instagram or scrolling Facebook, it'll give me like a threads article

[01:30:17] and it'll cut off right before the interesting thing. You fell for it. Fuck you. And

[01:30:21] I click it and I'd read the article and then I close the app, but I'd happen to

[01:30:26] open the threads and I start scrolling and there's a lot of last Jedi discourse

[01:30:30] threads seems to really like the last Jedi or at least the people that show up in

[01:30:35] my feed. Yeah. They're like happy seven year anniversary to the second best star

[01:30:39] Wars movie ever made. I'm like, these are my kind of people.

[01:30:43] Yeah. Yeah. Bobby think that is also why you keep Twitter. So never forget. No one else

[01:30:52] can have nobody else deserves that name. That's too good. It was the one good thing

[01:30:56] to come out of rights. Skywalker is Kyle's Instagram. Fuck that movie for real. I, I

[01:31:02] literally thought about rewatching all the star Wars movies as I was driving down

[01:31:05] here. Yeah. And I was like, man, I haven't, I was like, I saw something about, I think

[01:31:09] it's like, I saw some discourse about, uh, the last Jedi and I was like, man, I should

[01:31:13] rewatch this. And I was like, Ooh, but then I have to rewatch, rewatch, rewatch, rise

[01:31:17] of Skywalker, which is a real sour note to end it all on. God, I fucking hate that. I rewatched

[01:31:22] like probably a year after it came out. I rewatched the sequel trilogy and I got to

[01:31:26] rise of Skywalker and I got to about 50 minutes and I'm like, ah, I can turn it off.

[01:31:30] So that's, I got it all. See, you are the huge star Wars fan. I know. Yeah. Uh, and

[01:31:35] you were, I think the biggest defender of rise of Skywalker in our episode on, I, I

[01:31:38] were actually, I, I remember being the voice of like descent in that episode being

[01:31:42] like, this sucks. Yeah. Uh, and everybody else was like, Oh, it wasn't too bad. I

[01:31:45] think even Mike D was like, yeah, you know, probably like it's fine. And I was like, I

[01:31:50] don't know. This is like the worst star Wars movie. They just fumble the ending so hard.

[01:31:54] Yeah. I mean, I have come down on it quite a bit. It's still star Wars, so I can

[01:31:58] still find stuff to like in it. I like Babu, uh, Babu Frick. Babu Frick's great. Um,

[01:32:06] it's a much different star Wars movie, but yeah, there's like bits and pieces of that

[01:32:10] movie that like, okay, this is fun. This is fun in the moment, but then like you zoom

[01:32:15] out just a little bit and you're like, Oh God, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I did a, uh, original

[01:32:21] trilogy for you watch over the summer, uh, which was the first time I've watched them

[01:32:25] like in full since probably rise of Skyward came out. I did it. I did a big series rewatch

[01:32:29] then. Uh, and man, the original trilogy, it rules holds up. Uh, what was interesting.

[01:32:33] So I, I watched, uh, they were, they were showing them at the Roxy. I watched the first

[01:32:36] two, uh, star Wars and no higher strikes back at the Roxy. Uh, but I wasn't able to make

[01:32:39] it out for return to the Jedi. Uh, and so the ones that were shown to the Roxy were like

[01:32:43] the new special editions, like the, it was the, the McClunky cut for star Wars, you know, cause

[01:32:49] that's, that's what is available. That's what they give. Uh, however, since I

[01:32:53] couldn't watch Jedi and theaters, I decided to, uh, watch my D specialized return of the

[01:32:58] Jedi Blu-ray, uh, and man wilds. Uh, like it just, I don't know. I, I hadn't seen it

[01:33:07] return of the Jedi in a non special edition format since I was maybe like eight years old.

[01:33:12] It's like, I don't want to say it's a different movie, but it's a definitely a different experience.

[01:33:16] It's wild. I mean, there's so many more, uh, animatronics. There's so much more puppetry.

[01:33:19] Uh, the, uh, scene in Jabba's palace, like cuts out that whole big musical number.

[01:33:23] Right. Uh, you know, uh, it, it felt like it did feel like a different experience. It

[01:33:28] was interesting. It was weird. My, my dad got rid of like his like original VHS is

[01:33:32] Oh really? Like he, like he got rid of like most of his just movies. He'd never like

[01:33:37] watch them. And I was like one, you got rid of all your movies and asked me if I wanted

[01:33:41] them rude, but also like, man, I definitely would have taken the original trilogy VHS and found

[01:33:46] a way to get them onto disc. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:33:49] That would have been awesome. That would have been cool. Die hard. Anything else left to

[01:33:55] say about this? It's a weird movie to talk about because it is, it has been so thoroughly

[01:34:00] covered. So everybody knows die hard. Everybody knows it at this point. This was really just

[01:34:04] what everybody does. We found the one guy who hadn't seen it. This really was just an

[01:34:11] excuse to sit in this room and talk about movies. Like we just need it. We needed like

[01:34:15] a central thing that we all did. And then it was just off to the races. Yes, exactly.

[01:34:19] That's another thing that's always stuck with me my whole life about die hard. What? That one scene

[01:34:23] when they open the vault and Oat to Joy plays. Yeah. Yeah. Shit rules. The movies, baby. The

[01:34:30] movies, baby. Kyle. I mean, so we've, I mean many times over the course of this podcast, we've

[01:34:35] discovered like a movie that you haven't seen. Yeah. In the avatar episode. I think we realized

[01:34:41] that the only James Cameron movies you have seen are avatar and avatar too. True. True. True. True. So you've not seen

[01:34:48] either of the term or either of the terminators, any of the term, any of the terminators, I guess there are

[01:34:51] six of them. You only need to see one and two. Uh, yeah, you really only need to see the first two. I'll go to

[01:34:55] back for terminator three. Uh, but terminator one and two, you know, uh, aliens, any of that stuff. You

[01:35:01] know, you haven't seen any of it. Nope. Man aliens. I've seen alien versus predator.

[01:35:04] God. Dudes rock. As a human who owns alien versus predator. Come on. Have you seen alien or predator?

[01:35:14] I have seen predator. Okay. Um, uh, I haven't seen alien. That's more horror. So that's why

[01:35:22] alien is a horror movie. I never like got with that one. But aliens is an action aliens. Fucks. Um,

[01:35:27] yeah, I don't think I've seen any of the aliens movies. I've seen Prometheus. Hell on. What do you

[01:35:33] think about Prometheus? I thought it was pretty good. Fuck you, Dave. I thought I thought Prometheus

[01:35:43] was pretty good, but yeah, for what the, because of like, I know the first one is a horror movie.

[01:35:48] I've just kind of stayed away from them. I'm not again, some, not against seeing them. It's just

[01:35:54] aliens is the coolest fucking sci-fi action movie ever. Yeah. That's what I've heard.

[01:35:59] Aliens is pretty great. I do think alien is better. They're they're,

[01:36:03] like one a one B for me. It's real Godfather, Godfather two situation. I mean, it kind of is

[01:36:07] people are like, one's the best and other people like two is the best. And yeah, here I am having

[01:36:12] not seen either. Yeah. I've seen the Godfather. You've seen the Godfather. I remember you watching

[01:36:16] the Godfather. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'll go to bat for Godfather three. I like that movie, man. Uh,

[01:36:23] I haven't seen it in forever. I didn't dislike it when I saw it. I've actually been meaning to watch.

[01:36:26] Uh, I got the Blu-ray of the Godfather coda, which is the, uh, Francis Ford Coppola recut of

[01:36:31] Godfather three. So he like did a director's cut of it. Did he cut out his daughter? No, I don't

[01:36:36] think so. I believe, I believe Sophie Coppola is still in the movie. She is like, she is obviously

[01:36:41] the worst part about that movie. Um, but the rest of the movie like sans her, I think it's really good.

[01:36:47] I think it's just as good as the other Godfather stuff, but she really does bring it down quite a bit.

[01:36:52] It's been, it's been so long since I've seen it. Uh, but I'm really curious to watch the coda version

[01:36:56] just because it treats it more like a, an epilogue to the first two as opposed to like

[01:37:00] its own full fledged, like part three, uh, which I think is interesting.

[01:37:04] And is interesting. It is interesting. The more, you know, yeah, all this power. Yeah. There you go.

[01:37:09] Reading rainbow.

[01:37:15] Very good. Uh, is there a, like if we were to, so next year when we're doing the in-person episode,

[01:37:20] uh, ideally there will be some kind of a movie for us to all gather around to watch,

[01:37:25] um, like a, you know, whatever the big blockbuster is, maybe, maybe it's wicked part two or something.

[01:37:30] Uh, although that has to be a complete works, uh, that's true. Get everybody on for the complete

[01:37:34] works. Even though I liked wicked, uh, I was like, you guys were pretty positive on what you,

[01:37:42] like, you know, we were like, I don't want to do the second one. That was attitude for the

[01:37:47] first one. I know. So, I mean, I got to take another trip to us. Did you see they retitled

[01:37:53] it instead of part two? It's like, was wicked good for good, which is, which is one of the

[01:38:00] songs that's in act two wicked. So like contextually sure, but like just fucking call it part two.

[01:38:07] Come on. Call it act two. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like that. That's just like a thing we're going

[01:38:13] to get with like movies that are split into multiple parts now. Like they renamed like the,

[01:38:18] the, the mission impossible movies. So like it wasn't dead reckoning one and two. Well,

[01:38:21] cause that reckoning one kind of bombed, uh, not that a bomb, but it really underperformed

[01:38:24] personally. People don't have taste. Well, it came out the week before, uh, Oppenheimer and Barbie.

[01:38:29] Uh, you go see that. And then you go see Oppenheimer and Barbie. Well, it lost all the IMAX

[01:38:33] screens to Oppenheimer too. And that's fair. See, I saw dead reckoning. I didn't see Oppenheimer

[01:38:37] or Barbie. Whoa, man. You should watch them. They're really good. I've heard they're both

[01:38:41] really good. So you guys had someone fall asleep behind the, or in your theater, uh, seeing

[01:38:46] Craven. I had a guy sit behind me and snore for two hours of Oppenheimer. I was pissed.

[01:38:55] That's such a talky movie too. That's like, I get, I get why he fell asleep. Cause like there

[01:39:01] are, there are stretches where it is just talking and politics and like, there's a lot of that

[01:39:06] movie. It's not like particularly exciting. Like it's riveting. Like you get into it.

[01:39:11] But like, if that's not your style, sure. I can get, get, it's boring. I was like, man,

[01:39:15] motherfucker, you paid $20 for being an IMAX theater and you're falling asleep. Stop.

[01:39:21] Yes. I'm looking ahead at 2025 to see like what movie should be the thing for next year.

[01:39:25] Uh, and it looks like if it holds to its release date, avatar three.

[01:39:30] Fuck.

[01:39:30] We'll be out December 19th.

[01:39:31] Let's go.

[01:39:35] Okay. You weren't, you, you don't like the avatars really.

[01:39:37] I, they're fine. They're, they are okay. That's a lot of movies are fine.

[01:39:42] They are. I get it. I was like, I was super down on like the idea of avatar too.

[01:39:49] Yeah. Like when it was like coming up to release because like, I was definitely on that side

[01:39:53] of like avatar one means nothing. Right. Like it came out, it was this huge movie and then

[01:39:59] no one talked about it ever again. But then like, those are the coolest movies to watch in a theater.

[01:40:05] Yeah. There's so much fun. They, I like them.

[01:40:08] I never doubted James Cameron. I'll be on the record saying I on the podcast eight years

[01:40:12] ago, I was like avatar two. Can't wait. That's fair. I, I have, I appreciate avatar for the

[01:40:17] spectacle, but just, I could, I could not get into it. I, I, what I'm looking at, I recognize

[01:40:24] is good, but I just couldn't get into it. Yeah. But now there's fire Navi. Uh, maybe that'll,

[01:40:31] maybe that's what's going to do it for me. Fire and ash. And it's got like a fire logo. Ooh,

[01:40:35] fancy. Yeah. Pretty into it. Maybe, maybe this one will do it for me. Maybe like to, to find

[01:40:42] this, this movie's version of pie coon, the killer telcoon or whatever the whale is that made me cry.

[01:40:47] He's so cool. The whale's sick. Yeah. Remember when he rips that guy's arm off? Yeah. Fucking

[01:40:51] cool. Fuck that guy up. Uh, yeah. Avatar three, I think will be the big thing obviously next year,

[01:40:56] if it holds the release date, which you know, you never can tell what these avatar movies,

[01:41:00] uh, six years. Yeah. Isn't that also allegedly a complete works episode? Isn't Michelle? You're

[01:41:07] supposed to be in this one finally. You know, I'm not sure. Uh, let me see. She might be,

[01:41:11] they might've cut her out of three and she's in four and five. I thought she was supposed to be in two.

[01:41:15] Yeah. I mean, I think, uh, she's not on the Wikipedia page. Okay. So, so I guess we'll find out.

[01:41:21] Time will tell. Time will tell. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Just do a complete works episode as the year,

[01:41:26] as the end of the year. I mean, that'd be fine too. I guess we could. Yeah. Could do,

[01:41:30] could do that. There are no rules. You guys make the rules. That's right. This is your podcast.

[01:41:34] That's a good point. Uh, five nights at Freddy's two is also out in December of next year.

[01:41:39] I have not seen the first one. So we're doing tired three. Well, I was going to say like,

[01:41:44] you know, if we're doing an avatar two episode, we could like also make Kyle watch the Terminator.

[01:41:48] True. Yeah. That's an episode. Yeah. That's an episode. I was going to say,

[01:41:52] cause if we want to just do a movie I haven't seen, there's a fuckload to pick from where we

[01:41:58] could like pick a Christmas movie, another Christmas movie. Do we want to keep it in that vein? I mean,

[01:42:03] long kiss, goodnight. I haven't seen that. Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. I haven't seen kiss,

[01:42:07] kiss, bang, bang. Oh man. What a picture. We just watch a bunch of Shane black movies. Yeah.

[01:42:12] Black Christmas. Shane black cast now. Secretly turning this into a Shane black podcast. Yes.

[01:42:20] That's really been my goal for a very long time. We'd like to, we'd like him to make another movie.

[01:42:25] He hasn't made one in a while. Uh, in any case, anything else about diehard guys, or should we

[01:42:30] start wrapping this up? I mean, we're approaching two hours. We are, we are approaching the two hour

[01:42:34] mark. We can keep talking if you guys want to, I think I do know that at some point you guys have

[01:42:39] to leave the, I think the main thing, my main takeaway from diehard. Yeah. The movie fucks.

[01:42:47] That's it. That's it. It's fucking great. It's a all time classic. I can't believe it took me this

[01:42:53] long to watch it and it might be a new Christmas tradition for me. Hell yeah. I think it should be

[01:42:57] because like right now my only like Christmas tradition movies are Muppet Christmas Carol and

[01:43:02] a Christmas story. Cause it did, we just have it on during the day and I catch the whole movie.

[01:43:06] Yeah. I'll catch it throughout the day. Plays the whole thing. Diehard two also Christmas movie.

[01:43:11] Really? Yes. Okay. Again, like I said, diehard two, the same as the first one. It's they really

[01:43:16] just repeated every element. There's a, there's a line in diehard two where John McClane's like,

[01:43:21] how can the same shit happen to the same guy twice? Second verse, same as the first baby.

[01:43:27] That's how it works. Uh, and then diehard three removes all that. It's a, I think that's

[01:43:32] what I like about diehard three so much. A it's still John. It's John McTiernan again. And,

[01:43:36] uh, he crushes it, but it's also like, oh, it's, it feels very different than diehard one where diehard

[01:43:41] one is like, you know, you can find to this one large space diehard three is like, oh, it's a city

[01:43:45] wide whole thing. They're traveling across the city. Uh, it's a buddy movie with John McClane and

[01:43:50] Sam Jackson. Uh, and it's just so much fun. It's good. I mean, there's like moved it or like move the

[01:43:56] setting around at different holidays throughout the year for each day. Hard three is an Easter movie.

[01:43:59] Yeah. That sounds great. Honestly, like do one just like a Thanksgiving one just crashed like the

[01:44:07] Thanksgiving day parade. Hell yeah. That would actually be an action movie that takes place within

[01:44:12] the Thanksgiving day parade. That'd be kind of cool. That could be fun. I mean, yeah, you have to make

[01:44:18] your way to the back of the parade. You have to save Santa. Yeah. Like, I think you just wrote a

[01:44:22] movie. Yeah. I think that's enough. I think so. I got it. I think red one got made on less of a

[01:44:28] concept than that. What if Santa was kidnapped? Yes. Uh, that is a good point. You know, I, uh,

[01:44:34] I, I mentioned this to Kyle, but like I came home the other day, red one is now streaming on Amazon

[01:44:39] prime and bombed in theaters streaming on Amazon prime now. Uh, and there was like some kind of like,

[01:44:45] you know, message from prime on Twitter being like, Oh yes, red one at, you know, 50 million

[01:44:50] households have watched it in this, in the last 24 hours or whatever. Uh, and I was like, well,

[01:44:54] that seems insane. Like there's no way 50 million people are interested in red one. I came home,

[01:44:59] uh, the other night and my mom was watching red one. There you go. Shit. Uh, and she had fallen

[01:45:03] asleep while watching it. Uh, and I was like, you know what? If 50 million moms fell asleep watching

[01:45:10] red one because it was the first thing that came up on Amazon. I could believe that. I could

[01:45:16] believe that number red one might be one of the six movies that gets me to a hundred just,

[01:45:20] I need to know how bad it is. Hell yeah. I think it'll be worth it all for that. Yeah. Yeah. There

[01:45:25] you go. I'll report back. Yes. Uh, I have not seen red one. I've heard, I've heard bad things.

[01:45:29] It looks like a fake movie. It looks it's, it's a money laundering scheme. Yeah. Like how did

[01:45:35] you get Chris Evans and the rock to be in this? That's insane. Well, the rock is just

[01:45:38] in bad movies. That's kind of like his thing. That is a shtick. And Chris Evans has also

[01:45:42] been in a lot of bad movies in the last couple of years too. Has he? I mean, you don't remember

[01:45:46] them because they were all Netflix originals, Apple originals, like just stuff that just

[01:45:50] like completely evaporated from the public consciousness. The gray man, the gray man.

[01:45:55] I will go to bat for that movie because Chris Evans plays a piece of shit in that movie.

[01:45:59] Oh, he's very fun in it. And whenever Chris Evans is being a piece of shit, it brings

[01:46:03] the movie up like so, so high. He's such a good asshole. You should watch sunshine.

[01:46:08] Like if you don't settle for the gray man, I'm not settling the gray man rules. Sunshine

[01:46:15] man. God bless you guys for having talked about that on a podcast and reminding me it exists.

[01:46:21] So good. Yeah. Incredible. Danny Boyle's best film. Danny Boyle next year. 28 years later.

[01:46:26] It's happening. Lock in. All right. Confessure time. I have not seen 28 days. Oh really?

[01:46:32] 28 weeks later. Whoa. Also 28 days later doesn't exist. It does now. It does now. There's such

[01:46:38] backlash that they, they've somebody finally agreed to stream it. Yeah. Once the trailer

[01:46:42] hit for 28 years later, uh, the studio finally like put out 28 days later on digital. Um,

[01:46:46] where do I find it? I think it's available to rent, but I'm sure you can find it through

[01:46:49] other means. That's cool. My dad has his credit card associated with his accounts on

[01:46:52] his TV that I'm going to be using for the next week. Got him. He's my dad's credit card

[01:46:56] for the $3 rental fee. But, uh, okay. Sweet. Cause I, yeah, it's finally available. I

[01:47:02] guess. Uh, 28 days. I, I remember liking 28 weeks rocks. I made him watch it. Yeah.

[01:47:06] You made me watch 28 weeks later earlier this year and it's a lot of fun. I do plan to rewatch

[01:47:10] 28 days before 28 years comes out because it is like connect. Like this one's more connected

[01:47:15] to days than weeks. Okay. Killian Murphy's back. Hell yeah. And Danny Boyle and Alex Garland

[01:47:19] are both back too, which is pretty neat. I got four of my last six movies. I gotta watch

[01:47:23] 28 days, 28 weeks. So I can, if I can find that red one, those fraud too. There you go.

[01:47:29] There we go. We're, we're, we're crossing them off. But yeah, 28 years later comes out,

[01:47:32] I think in June and then in January of next year of 2026, uh, 28 years later, part two,

[01:47:38] the bone temple. That's right. I forgot they split it and it's like Nia DaCosta or something.

[01:47:43] Yeah. Right. Yeah. Fine. It's a whole thing now. Yeah. The fact that they dipped from the convention

[01:47:51] of 28 days, 28 weeks, 28 years, and then just 28 years insert subtitle part two whack. Yeah.

[01:47:59] I should have been 28 months, 28 years. Okay. We had two years, four months later.

[01:48:09] But the title bone temple is a banging subtitle. It's such a weird subtitle. I'm very into it.

[01:48:17] It's all right. Uh, all right. Should we wrap it up guys? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Die hard. What a

[01:48:24] picture movie fucks. Yes. All right. Kyle want to thank you so much. Uh, a for watching die hard for

[01:48:30] letting us make you watch die hard. Thank you for making me watch die hard. Uh, you're welcome. Uh,

[01:48:35] and then also thank you for, uh, hooking up all the sound stuff. Uh, like we couldn't do the in-person

[01:48:40] podcast without you. I'd like to see you try. It would not be pretty. Yeah. It'd be bad. Everyone

[01:48:45] passing around one microphone. Yeah. If it was just us, like it would probably be like one of us

[01:48:50] would have had to bring like our Yeti microphone and just like do the omni-directional, uh, yeah,

[01:48:56] or we're just sitting sounding podcast of the year or we're just sitting in separate rooms in the same

[01:49:00] house on our computers, which we did that once the rise of Skywalker episode, which was me, you

[01:49:06] Mike D and Vin, uh, like Mike D was in Long Island. We'd actually, that was like a sort of in-person

[01:49:11] episode. Uh, I don't remember. Uh, so you were in Long Island. Uh, I was at Kyle's house. Vin came

[01:49:17] over to Kyle's house and we couldn't figure out how to get three microphones to work at it in one

[01:49:23] place. So we put Vin on the computer in the other room. Yeah, that's right.

[01:49:29] We've come a long way. Yes, exactly. Uh, so yes, thank you, Kyle, once again for, uh,

[01:49:34] helping us out with all that kind of stuff. If people want to find you online, uh, where could

[01:49:37] they do that? Don't find me online, but if you wanted to find him at Babu thick at Babu

[01:49:42] thick on the Twitter that I don't use, uh, don't, don't bother finding me anywhere else.

[01:49:48] I'm not really on social media this much podcast themes at gmail.com. Oh yeah. If

[01:49:54] if one person will email me at Kyle's podcast themes at gmail.com, how long have we been

[01:50:01] putting that in there? Uh, three years. You asked me to, which yeah, several years ago,

[01:50:06] I've gotten like one email. How often do you check that email? I check it. I'll check it right

[01:50:11] now. Check it every day. I check it every day. Just waiting. Just desperate. Flies come,

[01:50:16] flies come out of my inbox. I mean, your theme songs are so great and also a special shout

[01:50:22] out once again to the custom theme you made for the wicked episode. That was really, that

[01:50:26] was fun, uh, which combined the Jeff Goldblum and Michelle Yeo themes. And when you put it

[01:50:30] together, you asked me for new clips, which I was like, I thought you were just going to

[01:50:33] like put the two theme songs that existed just on top of each other.

[01:50:37] That's just a fucking cacophony of just awful sounds. Yeah. But you made like a real song,

[01:50:42] which was great. And that like somehow managed to capture the essence of both songs, uh, which

[01:50:47] was pretty fantastic. So, and you can get that magic for your own podcast at Kyle's podcast

[01:50:52] themes at gmail.com. There you go. The last legitimate email I received to this email was

[01:50:57] from 2022 and it was from my cousin's boyfriend. Did you make him a podcast theme? I made him

[01:51:05] a theme for his stream or something like that. Okay. Nice. Uh, but he did pay me money. Hey,

[01:51:10] there you go. That's all that counts. That works out. Uh, all right, Colin, where can

[01:51:14] we find you online this week? Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Schmedlap nine and on letterbox

[01:51:18] at C styles one nine nine one to catch my review of red one. All right. I was looking for your

[01:51:22] letterbox yesterday. I couldn't find it for some reason. I was like, uh, maybe cause I was

[01:51:26] looking for hundreds of beavers. I thought you maybe had logged it again, but it sounds

[01:51:29] like you don't log rewatch. I don't, as of now I'm not doing logging rewatches again. No

[01:51:33] one needs to know how often I watch money ball. You don't have to get every rewind. It's

[01:51:38] a, I watched money ball minimum of 10 times this year. Kyle, please stop breaking that

[01:51:41] chair. I'm not breaking it. It's fine. I don't know. I mean, might D logs the mummy every

[01:51:47] time he rewatches. I think right. I do. Yeah. Yeah. I guess no shame about them. I mostly

[01:51:51] wanted to like this year. I wanted to see if I get to like a hundred like first time

[01:51:54] watches and I felt it'd be a lot easier. I didn't log rewatches just like track that.

[01:51:58] Yeah. Yeah. So 25 may log rewatches. All right. Let's see what happens. A lot of developments

[01:52:03] could be happening in the world of college. Mostly I've used letterbox this year, so

[01:52:07] I'm happy about myself. That's good job. All right. Mike D where can we find you online

[01:52:10] this week? You can find me at MD film blog on Twitter and letterboxed and blue sky.

[01:52:16] You can also find the show at blue sky at Mike and Mike pods just to make it confusing.

[01:52:20] Yep. We have different accounts on every platform. Maybe the goal in 2025 should be

[01:52:26] to streamline that a little bit. Maybe consolidate. And if you would like to donate and support

[01:52:31] the show, you could do that at our coffee page, which is coffee.com slash Mike and Mike

[01:52:35] pods, where we can also continue to pay Kyle. So that works out. And if you donate $50, you'll

[01:52:41] pick a topic. We'll do whatever episode you want. You want to pick the Christmas in person

[01:52:45] next year. I don't know if we'll allow that, but maybe, I mean, I'm going to gun pretty

[01:52:50] hard for average. I have a heart three. If that's coming out, if it ends up coming out.

[01:52:54] Yeah. Um, so that's our coffee page, coffee.com slash Mike and Mike pods. And if you want merch,

[01:52:59] we have merch available on a red bubble, which is Mike and Mike pods dot red bubble.com.

[01:53:02] That's right. You can find me online at M Smith film blog on Twitter, Mike Smith film

[01:53:06] on letterbox radio, Mike sandwich, Instagram. I am also on blue sky at Emma Smith film blog.

[01:53:10] Uh, and you can find this podcast on Twitter at complete works pod. Nope. This is Mike and Mike pod.

[01:53:15] Uh, but we do most of our tweet tweeting from complete works pod, which is complete works.

[01:53:20] Uh, W R K S no. Oh, in the word works. Uh, and there's also at Mike and Mike pod on Twitter as

[01:53:25] well. I don't have my copy in front of me. So I'm a, I think you did pretty good. This is

[01:53:28] happened. This happens every year where I kind of memory. That was pretty good. Uh, what was the

[01:53:34] next thing I usually say? I feel like I say more. You definitely do. You can find us on

[01:53:38] Rapture press alongside many other podcasts, what kinds of movie news and comic books and

[01:53:42] all that good stuff. What are we doing next? What are we doing next? I guess, uh, yeah,

[01:53:48] the next episode of Mike and Mike go to the movies, uh, will likely be Nosferatu cause we're,

[01:53:53] we're definitely going to go see that. Yeah. Uh, so I will, uh, it's a weird, I'm hoping to

[01:53:57] go see it like the day after Christmas if I can. Um, otherwise like I go home to Missoula

[01:54:01] on the 29th, the 30th it's Nosferatu. That's right. Locked in. Uh, it's definitely like

[01:54:07] a priority for me to go see Nosferatu as soon as I can. Uh, and so, yeah, we will do a Nosferatu

[01:54:12] episode. We're going to do our top 10 episode of the year, uh, in early January pretty soon.

[01:54:17] Uh, so pretty excited about that. Uh, we have not released the episode on night game yet,

[01:54:24] which although that might be out by the time this comes out. Uh, so, but yeah, Collins on

[01:54:28] that one. Hell yeah. Talked about night game starring Roy Scheider. That sure was a picture.

[01:54:32] It's a, it's a movie for sure. I have been workshopping a better version of that

[01:54:36] movie ever since I saw it because I know what I want that movie to be. It's I think

[01:54:40] right for a remake. I think it's time to do a remake on I can someone, someone let me write

[01:54:44] the movie, please. I think there is another Mike and Mike in the pipeline that I just

[01:54:47] haven't sent you because I've had a crazy week. Is there, I think you sent me the, um,

[01:54:52] Annie, the apocalypse episode. I don't think I did. Oh, well then please send that to me.

[01:54:58] That'll be coming out soon. Yeah. That'll be coming out soon too. I mean, that should

[01:55:00] be out before this one, I think. Yeah. So yeah, there's episodes to come. And of course,

[01:55:05] uh, in the new year, we're about to enter, uh, the 1990s for Roy Scheider. Yes. The weird

[01:55:10] nineties, the weird nineties we're calling them. We really don't know that much about

[01:55:13] them, but we're calling them the weird. Just looking at the titles. They seem weird. Yeah.

[01:55:17] There's a lot, there's a lot of movies that don't have Wikipedia pages. Yeah. But there's

[01:55:22] also stuff like naked lunch, uh, the David Cronenberg film, which is very exciting. Uh,

[01:55:26] or the rainmaker. Yeah. The Francis Ford Coppola movie. Uh, so yeah, we've got some, uh,

[01:55:31] good stuff to look forward to. I'm excited for the nineties, the weird nineties. Uh, and then it's

[01:55:35] the two thousands and then Roy Scheider dies. So we're actually, we're getting semi close

[01:55:39] to the end for Scheider already. I just can't wait for the Punisher episode. Yes. That's

[01:55:42] going to be fun. I'm so excited. Uh, yes, the Punisher, I think I'm going to watch the

[01:55:47] 89 Punisher as well to fully prepare Dolph Lundgren, Dolph Lundgren. I've never seen that

[01:55:51] one. Uh, yeah, I've never, I've never seen any of the Punishers. Uh, and yeah, and I know

[01:55:55] Jake frequent donator to the show, uh, is planning to donate $50 to make us watch Punisher

[01:55:59] war zone. You are going to fucking hate them. I see, I've actually heard pretty good things

[01:56:05] about words. See, you know why I know you're going to hate that movie. Why? Cause I love

[01:56:09] that movie. You know, that's not a, there are plenty of movies we both love die hard for

[01:56:17] you know that I get it. I'm just the Mary you make me watch hit man. Cause you were like

[01:56:24] this movie rules. That movie's got big hit man energy. Uh, well then maybe it won't be so good.

[01:56:29] The, the, the hit man like video game movie or video game movie. Yeah. Uh, with Timothy

[01:56:34] Alphonse. Oh yeah. As, as hit man, as Mr. Hitman. That movie is so bad, but I love it.

[01:56:40] Uh, it, you made me watch it at your house. I think you made me watch that and I made you

[01:56:42] watch evil dead at a different point. Uh, many years later. Was that many years later? It

[01:56:48] was many years later and it still felt like retribution for it. It's like he made me watch

[01:56:54] this fucking boring movie. Uh, all right. And I think that's going to be it, uh, for this

[01:57:00] week's episode of the podcast. So once again, thank you all for being here. It's good to be

[01:57:04] here. Always a blast. Yes. Thanks for having us at your house. Yes. Thank you guys for, uh,

[01:57:09] chilling at my place, watching die hard with me. Uh, it's a real struggle. Yeah. Uh, and I,

[01:57:16] I wish I had a, a good closing line from die hard to say, uh, as we were having the podcast,

[01:57:22] but I don't think I, I didn't have anything prepared. I barely got the intros done before

[01:57:25] this. I feel like it's pretty easy. We'll just yippee kai motherfucker. We're out.

[01:57:29] Should we, should we all in unison? Well, we got to count it down like you used to.

[01:57:34] Oh my God. And clap. Three, two, one clap. But we have, we have to say it when you get to

[01:57:41] one. I still have about that process. You let us keep doing that for so long before telling

[01:57:47] us that we didn't have to. Some real insight podcast baseball. All right. Yippee kai

[01:57:56] motherfucker.

[01:57:57] Yippee kai motherfucker.