It's finally time to figure out who will be the subject of The Complete Works Season 4! Mike and Mike are each bringing 5 nominees to the table for a total of 10 - by the end of the episode, we'll be down to 4 finalists, and then we'll leave it up to you to decide who wins! The poll goes live on Twitter on Monday, February 12th!
[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to The Complete Works, a deep dive into the career and films of someone. My name is Mike Smith and joining me as we piece together the upcoming season of our podcast is my friend, co-host, fellow Kajaholic, Goldblumaniac, and Psychopath.
[00:00:16] Mike Treasio. How's your name, Mike? I'm doing just great, honestly, totally rudderless without a set intro. I don't know what we're doing now. I was scared when you set a deep dive into somebody and I panicked.
[00:00:29] Just fight or flight response instantly. It feels off the rails already, right? It feels 100%.
[00:00:34] And that's going to be kind of the tone of this episode. This is not a traditional episode of The
[00:00:40] Complete Works because a traditional episode usually has a movie to talk about based on the
[00:00:44] photography of an actor that we're covering. Yes. This time, we are beginning the process of once
[00:00:50] again picking a new subject for The Complete Works as we get ready for season four of the podcast.
[00:00:56] Can you believe we've made it to season four, Mike?
[00:00:59] I never thought we'd finish season one, honestly, just because Nicholas Kajah has so many movies,
[00:01:04] and I guess technically we haven't finished season one yet?
[00:01:07] That's true. All three seasons of The Complete Works are technically incomplete until the actor dies
[00:01:14] and stops making movies or chooses retirement like Gene Hackman or something,
[00:01:19] which who knows, maybe Gene Hackman could be one of the candidates that's really eligible
[00:01:23] is being floated around. Yeah, technically eligible. So here is how this is going to work.
[00:01:28] I have selected five candidates for people to be considered for The Complete Works season four.
[00:01:33] Mike D has also selected five candidates for a total of 10 candidates. Are you following this so
[00:01:39] far, Mike? I'm following along. I'm glad you're letting me know what the situation is.
[00:01:44] Now that we've started recording. Yes. I mean, I'm more doing it so for the audience, but you know,
[00:01:51] it's good to just make sure you're following along too. Yes. By the end of this episode,
[00:01:56] Mike D and I will have eliminated six names and we will be down to four finalists who will then be
[00:02:02] voted on by you, the listener, to determine who will be the subject of the new season. We're going
[00:02:07] to take those four names. We'll put it out there as a Twitter poll like we did for season three.
[00:02:12] And the season three poll was a huge success. You know, it had a lot of votes. People were really
[00:02:16] into it. It was, you know, it was one of those things where I was closely following it for a
[00:02:21] little while. And then it was very clear, like early on, Michelle, I was going to win this.
[00:02:24] Yeah, there's a couple days where everybody was a little tied. And then I think, you know,
[00:02:28] maybe by day three, it was just like, Oh, Michelle, he's up of 60% or whatever she had.
[00:02:34] Yes, exactly. Basically, to be eligible for a new season of complete works, there are two criteria.
[00:02:39] One, the actor/actress has to have been making movies for at least 20 years, meaning that the
[00:02:45] latest, their first movie can be from is 2004. They have to be making movies from 2004 or earlier.
[00:02:51] Also, they can't have been in any movies with Michelle. So if they were covered in season three
[00:02:58] at all, if they were in any Michelle, yeah, movies, they are not eligible for season four,
[00:03:03] which unfortunately eliminates pretty much the entire Hong Kong film industry.
[00:03:06] I saw somebody we posted online earlier today, like any last minute pitches for season four,
[00:03:13] and somebody pitched Johnny Yen. And I was like, man, that'd be great, but can't do it.
[00:03:17] He's been in like four Michelle yo movies. So yeah, can't be in any movies with Michelle yo. However,
[00:03:23] Nicholas Cage and Jeff Goldblum are both fair game. If they were in a movie with cage,
[00:03:27] if they're in a movie with Goldblum, if they're in a movie with both, they are still eligible
[00:03:31] for a season four. It's just a candid and part of the previous season of the show.
[00:03:35] Right. Because we realized pretty quickly after the Goldblum season was like, huh,
[00:03:39] we're just going to eliminate everybody. If they can't have been in a movie with
[00:03:44] Nicholas Cage, who's in a hundred plus movies or Jeff Goldblum, who approaches a hundred
[00:03:47] movies, I think. Yes. And a lot of them are things like the player. It's like, oh,
[00:03:51] 25 leading starring actors and actresses are in a movie like that. Yes, they're gone.
[00:03:58] Exactly. Yeah, can't do it. So yeah, basically, and you know, once we get to that kind of situation,
[00:04:04] we haven't had that problem yet. But if we do have somebody who is also in a cage movie or
[00:04:08] also in a Goldblum movie, we might figure out something different to do with it. Like it
[00:04:12] maybe not just cover the same movie again, or if we do, maybe get a guess on that episode,
[00:04:16] or something different, you know, something to mix it up a little bit.
[00:04:20] So this episode where we figure out the finalists will be released on Monday, February 5th.
[00:04:25] You are listening to this, at least from that date onward. The poll will go live on Twitter
[00:04:31] exactly one week later, meaning on Monday, February 12th, that poll, which will have the
[00:04:37] four finalists will be active for one week, meaning we will know the final results of the poll
[00:04:42] on Monday, February 19th. You got one week to figure it out, and you know, spread the poll,
[00:04:47] tell all your friends about it, tell them to vote, you know, contact any famous people that you
[00:04:52] happen to have that you happen to have any kind of contact with, and have them retweet the poll,
[00:04:56] and get their followers in there, do whatever it is you got to do. Make it go as viral as you
[00:04:59] possibly can, because you know, the new season of The Complete Works is also a time for new
[00:05:04] beginnings. It's a time to get new fans for the show. And that's always cool.
[00:05:07] Yeah, yeah, we got to spread the word. We got some help last season when we did the poll from
[00:05:12] Michelle. We got some big retweets, and that's what led to like, I think it was almost 800 votes
[00:05:17] or something like that, which is pretty huge for a podcast of our stature. So hopefully we can
[00:05:22] recreate that a little bit. Twitter might be different now. It's a little bit of a different
[00:05:28] vibe these days. Yeah, so we'll see how long. Hopefully Twitter's still around at the end of
[00:05:33] February. That's just that's been the caveat, like for the past year, like if we're still around by
[00:05:38] this state, we'll do it. Yeah, and it really hasn't been that long. It was like end of it was like a
[00:05:45] year and a half ago that we did the season three poll. Right. Lots changed, man. A lot has changed
[00:05:49] for sure. So yeah, me and Mike have each selected five candidates that we're going to kind of argue
[00:05:54] for give our pitch for. And so Mike D, I'm going to have you list off. Basically, we'll go one by one,
[00:06:00] right? So I was going to do all of them. No, yeah, just knock about all at once. Have we ever
[00:06:06] done a 20 minute episode, Mike? I don't think you can have that. All right. So Mike D, why don't you
[00:06:12] tell me one of your candidates? Who is somebody that you think would be a good subject for season
[00:06:16] four of the complete works? So I was telling Mike before we started recording that I was
[00:06:22] looking through some of the suggestions, looking on letterbox, you know, looking at some
[00:06:26] themographies and stuff. And I looked at one of them that was suggested by a friend of the show.
[00:06:32] And I noticed that he was in a movie with the actor Joe Don Baker. And I was like, whoa,
[00:06:37] that'd be such a fun thing. He's in so many weird movies. And it's not that it's not like a lot of
[00:06:42] movies, but he's in some like pretty cool, weird stuff. So I was looking at that. And then I remember,
[00:06:47] of course, Joe Don Baker is in tomorrow, never dies with Michelle. Yeah. So unfortunately,
[00:06:52] Joe Don Baker and not eligible for the complete work season four, not eligible. And that was one
[00:06:56] of the things I was like, oh, man, he's in, I think almost all the Brosnan bonds. That'd be so fun.
[00:07:00] Okay. Yeah. And he's out. But then I remember another movie that Joe Don Baker's in that I think
[00:07:05] were both very big fans of called Charlie Varick. He's co stars Walter Mathau. Ooh. And I was like,
[00:07:12] Oh, baby. Walter Mathau is somebody that I, you know, I think just kind of pop cultural
[00:07:19] osmosis. I'm very familiar with it, but I have not seen many of his movies. I've seen Charlie
[00:07:22] Varick. I've seen, you know, probably band-use bears and grumpy old men and stuff like that.
[00:07:27] But according to Letterbox, I've seen 2% of his filmography, which that'd be very fun to dive into.
[00:07:34] And he's, he gets a pretty wide variety of movies. I think he's in that weird era that we saw
[00:07:40] with the Jeff Goldblum season, the early years, where like someone like Walter Mathau or Charles
[00:07:47] Brosnan or Jonah Baker, I guess, could be like a leading action like hunka dude, Ellie Gould,
[00:07:53] right? Like, I'm not sure if hunka is the right word to describe Walter Mathau.
[00:07:57] I think, I think there is an era where just like an interesting guy was just like a leading dude.
[00:08:02] And of course, to take you a fellow one, two, three, which I know you're very big fan. We're
[00:08:06] both very big fans. Have I have seen that one? Yeah. So yeah. And then all the way to the
[00:08:11] later in his career, where he's doing grumpy old men and more like old band comedies and dad movies,
[00:08:15] you know, stuff like that. I mean, I guess taking a fellow one, two, three is also a dad movie
[00:08:19] these days. But so Walter Mathau is my, what are my first, my first one?
[00:08:23] I think that's a fantastic choice. One that I hadn't really considered. I think it fits in.
[00:08:28] You, I think are in the back of your mind doing like your own little third criteria,
[00:08:33] which is that I know you've been pitching like, I would like the person to be dead or not making
[00:08:37] movies anymore. Correct. So that, so that we don't have to like continue covering them beyond the
[00:08:42] season. So we don't have a fourth season of never ending movies constantly interrupted by us covering
[00:08:49] other people. Yeah. And so yeah, Walter Mathau would also fit that. I love Walter Mathau. I just
[00:08:53] recently rewatched the taking of Pelham one, two, three at the Roxy theater, the indie theater near
[00:08:58] my house. I was a little Montana where I also work as a sold out showing for our 1974 series.
[00:09:02] And man, that might be one of my all time favorite movies. I love the taking of Pelham one, two,
[00:09:08] three. It's so, so, so good. And Walter Mathau is incredible in it. And so yeah, that's,
[00:09:14] this is a very strong contender, Mike. This is a good choice. Excellent. I'm glad. Yeah. So great.
[00:09:19] Okay. So Mike's first name that he threw out there is Walter Mathau. And then I'm going to say
[00:09:25] my first name. This is the one that like I've been thinking about the most like for the longest,
[00:09:30] I think, like since we kind of started season three, always in the back of my mind, I'm like,
[00:09:34] okay, but who's the next season that the complete works going to be about? You're like a shark. You
[00:09:37] can't stop moving. Exactly. And so I've been thinking about this one for a while. And I think this could
[00:09:44] be a really terrific season of the podcast. And that is Michael Keaton. Oh, Michael Keaton, who
[00:09:52] is I think one of my favorite screen presences, somebody who, you know, starts his career as kind
[00:09:57] of a comedian, kind of a comedy star. He got your Mr. Mom and Beetlejuice and Johnny Dangerously. And
[00:10:02] then, you know, turns into sort of an action hero. He becomes Batman and does the Tim Burton Batman
[00:10:07] movies and is in more blockbuster type stuff. And then sort of transitions into just
[00:10:12] beloved character actor, like somebody, somebody who I'm always excited to see pop up in something
[00:10:18] I didn't know he was in. And you know, he like, he had a, you know, a sort of lull where he wasn't
[00:10:22] really in as much high profile stuff. And then in the mid 2010s, like Birdman comes out and sort
[00:10:27] of considered like his comeback movie and spotlights the year after and all that stuff. And then like
[00:10:32] a few years later, I remember in 2020, I was watching the-
[00:10:35] trial of the Chicago 7, the Aaron Sorkin movie, which I think is a pretty good movie,
[00:10:40] but a movie that I did not know Michael Keaton was in, and he was not in the marketing grant
[00:10:44] like that, and he only pops up like two hours into the movie, and when he pops up, I was
[00:10:48] like, "Holy!"
[00:10:49] It was a big moment.
[00:10:50] I was like, "Oh my God!
[00:10:51] Michael Keaton's here!"
[00:10:52] And so I was very excited about that, and yeah, I love Michael Keaton.
[00:10:55] I think he'd be a great one to cover for the podcast.
[00:10:57] Also, just to add to my argument for all my people here, I listed off some directors we
[00:11:03] would end up covering for each of my people as well.
[00:11:05] You did homework.
[00:11:06] I did a little bit of homework.
[00:11:07] Yeah, so some of the directors would be recovering on the Michael Keaton season of the podcast.
[00:11:11] You got Joan Rivers, who directed one of Michael Keaton's first movies, Ron Howard,
[00:11:15] Amy Heckerling, John Hughes, Tim Burton, John Sleschinger, Kenneth Branagh, Harold
[00:11:20] Ramis, Quentin Tarantino, Steven Soderbergh, Hayo Miyazaki, Adam McKay, and Aaron Sorkin
[00:11:25] are some of the people we would cover.
[00:11:28] And I also listed off a couple of like one con for each person, like one thing, not like
[00:11:32] why you wouldn't want to do the podcast.
[00:11:33] And for Michael Keaton, it's because we would have to watch The Flash and Morbius again.
[00:11:38] I was going to say, I'm a big, you know, I'm into Keaton, however, there is the flash
[00:11:46] looming over that season of The Flash.
[00:11:49] However, can I do this to myself again?
[00:11:51] Yeah.
[00:11:52] And so that's my con for Michael Keaton.
[00:11:54] What do you think of Keaton, Mike?
[00:11:56] What do you think of that choice?
[00:11:57] I think that'd be fun.
[00:11:58] I think he's got like the inverse Walter Mathau, where he like starts as a comedy man, becomes
[00:12:03] action man.
[00:12:04] Yeah.
[00:12:05] That's true.
[00:12:06] But I think that would be fun.
[00:12:07] And somebody just recently, I saw going around on Twitter, the scene from the other guys,
[00:12:14] where he's like the manager at like an Ikea, and also like the homicide detective or whatever,
[00:12:20] Sergeant or some shit.
[00:12:21] And he starts giving like a homicide briefing to the people in Ikea, and he's like, oh, sorry,
[00:12:26] that's from my other job.
[00:12:28] hilarious.
[00:12:29] Yeah, hilarious.
[00:12:30] Recently Comedy Central has been playing a lot of the Adam McKay Will Ferrell movies.
[00:12:33] So every once in a while, I catch some Step Brothers or Talladega Nights or the other guys.
[00:12:37] And I watched like half of the other guys a couple of weeks ago.
[00:12:40] And man, that movie's like under, I forgot how much I like the other guys.
[00:12:44] I remember when I first saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, this is pretty good, but it's not
[00:12:46] as good as Step Brothers.
[00:12:48] And watching again, I'm like, now this movie's hilarious.
[00:12:50] It's so good.
[00:12:51] It's great.
[00:12:52] Mark Walberg's best perform, absolutely.
[00:12:56] So yeah, I think strong, strong contender.
[00:12:58] Big negative though with the flash for me, but understandable, but I like it.
[00:13:03] All right.
[00:13:04] So who's your next name?
[00:13:05] Mike, who do you got?
[00:13:06] My next name is somebody also familiar with sharks.
[00:13:10] I don't know.
[00:13:11] I'm trying to connect it to how I called you a shark, but I couldn't think of anything
[00:13:15] that's very good, but it's Roy Shider.
[00:13:17] Okay.
[00:13:18] I think a friend of the show, Mike Emmons, he suggested Roy Shider a while back, right?
[00:13:22] Yes.
[00:13:23] He is the one that put Shider in my brain on my list for this season.
[00:13:28] I mean, both of our probably favorite movie of all time, Jaws, you know, of course.
[00:13:34] Jaws is always my default answer if somebody asks me what my favorite movie is.
[00:13:38] Yeah.
[00:13:39] Yeah.
[00:13:40] And he's in some of the other best movies of all time, like The Time Has Chained The Punisher.
[00:13:43] That's hilarious.
[00:13:44] That'd be fun to watch.
[00:13:45] Yeah.
[00:13:46] But all that jazz, which I know you just watched this year, I think, or last year, very recently.
[00:13:50] Yeah.
[00:13:51] As my number three discovery of that, 2023 on our Mike and Mike, top 10 episode.
[00:13:56] In the Me and Your Ruby Day episode or from that list, French connection, sorcerer, marathon
[00:14:01] man.
[00:14:02] I'm trying to look at some of these other ones that I might have seen off the top of my head,
[00:14:05] but yeah, he's in a bunch of stuff that is awesome.
[00:14:08] Only 87 films.
[00:14:09] So like that is a lot according to IMDB, however, it's kind of less than a lot of the other
[00:14:14] people we've done so far, other than, yo, who I don't think has broken 70 or 60, right?
[00:14:20] And last week, when we did The Brother's Son, that was episode 56, and that was a TV show.
[00:14:25] So I wonder if there's some weird half of a season of a TV show in Roy Scheider's history
[00:14:29] that nobody remembers, like we discovered with like 10 Speed and Brownshoe or something
[00:14:34] for Goldblue.
[00:14:35] That'd be so fun.
[00:14:36] I'm looking at the filmography right now, Mike, and I can tell you that Roy Scheider was
[00:14:39] on 47 episodes of Sequest DSV.
[00:14:42] Oh my God, how can I forget about Sequest?
[00:14:46] How can I forget?
[00:14:47] Who could have forgotten Sequest?
[00:14:49] Yes.
[00:14:50] So yeah, that'd be great to watch all 47 episodes of Sequest.
[00:14:55] And then we'd have to watch the, what's the adult swim version where they redubbed the
[00:15:01] right Sequest 2010 or something like that?
[00:15:04] 2032.
[00:15:05] Some shit.
[00:15:06] Yeah.
[00:15:07] Yeah.
[00:15:08] Okay.
[00:15:09] But anyway, Roy Scheider is in some of my favorite movies of all time, some of the best movies
[00:15:12] of all time, plus a bunch of weird shit like Sequest, I guess we'll discover and the other
[00:15:16] Jaws sequels and stuff like that.
[00:15:20] And then just a lot of crime movies and stuff, I think it'd be real fun.
[00:15:23] So Roy Scheider.
[00:15:24] Yeah, I think that's also a really strong contender.
[00:15:26] I mean, there's a few movies here that I like, you know, I've seen a lot of the big ones
[00:15:30] here.
[00:15:31] I've seen Clute, I've seen Jaws, I've seen, you know, Sorcerer, Marathon Man, Jaws 2,
[00:15:36] all that jazz 2010.
[00:15:37] But then there's also, yeah, Mishima Life and Four Chapters and never seen that.
[00:15:42] You know, there's a few here that I would really like to watch.
[00:15:44] So, yeah, that's a definite contender for sure.
[00:15:47] I like it.
[00:15:48] Sweet.
[00:15:49] All right.
[00:15:50] So Roy Scheider is your number two here.
[00:15:51] My second name that I'm throwing out there is Wesley Snipes.
[00:15:54] Ooh.
[00:15:55] Wow.
[00:15:56] Tell me more.
[00:15:57] Yeah.
[00:15:58] So I think Wesley Snipes, you know, when we talk about, you know, the biggest stars
[00:16:02] of the 90s, you know, I think he is definitely in that conversation, you know, one of the
[00:16:08] big action stars, but also somebody who was a great comedic actor, you know, white men
[00:16:12] can't jump and two long food, thanks for everything and also a great dramatic actor.
[00:16:16] You got to start with, you know, working on Spike Lee movies and able Ferrera movies.
[00:16:19] But then, you know, also is Passenger 57, Demolition Man and Blade and all that stuff.
[00:16:25] So, you know, a huge, huge like star power, like one of the biggest, truly, I think one
[00:16:30] of the biggest stars of the 90s and then just a huge drop off.
[00:16:33] I mean, just a completely almost disappeared, like disappears after his tax problems in
[00:16:37] the mid 2000s and also, you know, according to various stories, like what happened on
[00:16:41] the set of Blade Trinity, like he was very difficult to work with, all that kind of stuff.
[00:16:45] And that leads to a lot of direct-to-video stuff.
[00:16:48] But you know, there's always like in the last few years, there's been a sort of like bubbling
[00:16:52] of like, oh, is there a Wesley Snipes comeback?
[00:16:54] Like maybe in the ether, he had a really great supporting role in Dolomite as my name a couple
[00:16:59] of years ago and he popped up again and Eddie Murphy's coming to America sequel, coming
[00:17:03] to America.
[00:17:05] I think he has a new movie coming out, coming on like streaming or something soon.
[00:17:08] But yeah, I think he's just a really fascinating presence and I last year hosted a Blade double
[00:17:14] feature at the Roxy for Inferno of Danger, Blade and Blade 2.
[00:17:17] And that was one of the wildest crowds I have ever been in in a movie theater.
[00:17:21] People were going nuts for the Blade movies.
[00:17:23] And truly that performance in the first Blade is just like one of the most iconic superhero
[00:17:27] performances ever.
[00:17:29] And so I think that would be a really cool one.
[00:17:31] Some of the directors we would cover for Wesley Snipes include Abel Ferreira, Spike Lee,
[00:17:35] Mario van Peebles, Ron Shelton, Philip Kauffman, Tony Scott, Mike Figgis, Guillermo del Toro,
[00:17:41] Walter Hill, Antoine Fuqua and RZA, I don't know which RZA movie he's in, but he's in
[00:17:45] a movie directed by RZA, I would say the con for a Wesley Snipes season is that it is
[00:17:50] a very similar arc to the cage season where he is, you know, one of the biggest stars
[00:17:55] in the 80s, 90s and then suddenly he has tax problems and he's in a lot of direct-to-video
[00:17:59] stuff.
[00:18:00] Give point.
[00:18:01] Yeah.
[00:18:02] So that's really the only con I think.
[00:18:03] But I think Wesley Snipes would be a really cool person for a season to be.
[00:18:06] The only con air.
[00:18:07] Yeah.
[00:18:08] Right.
[00:18:09] Wesley Snipes is not in con air, but I think you are a passenger 57.
[00:18:14] It's a different airplane action, but that's a good point.
[00:18:19] I think that would be fascinating.
[00:18:20] I think that'd be really fun.
[00:18:22] And like also like a really interesting, potentially compliment to a Michelle Yoe season charting
[00:18:27] the American, like Hollywood action rise and fall rather than the Hong Kong arc or whatever.
[00:18:34] And I do have a lot of nostalgia and affection for the good Wesley Snipes movie.
[00:18:38] So that would be fun.
[00:18:39] Plus we would sneak a Donnie Yen in there.
[00:18:41] Oh, yeah.
[00:18:42] Because Bladed 2 has Donnie Yen in it.
[00:18:44] Yes, of course.
[00:18:45] Which when I was watching Bladed 2, people clapped and cheered for Ron Perlman.
[00:18:49] He showed up, but nobody clapped when Donnie Yen showed up and I was really mad about
[00:18:52] Philistines.
[00:18:53] This is like a month after John Wick 4 came out and I was like, "The Donnie Yen head's
[00:18:57] the gotta be here."
[00:18:58] Right?
[00:18:59] Yeah.
[00:19:00] Come on.
[00:19:01] Yeah.
[00:19:02] Speaking of Donnie Yen heads, producer Colin just texted me today that he or last night he
[00:19:06] watched John Wick 4 for the first time.
[00:19:08] Oh, man.
[00:19:09] And he was like, "I can't believe Donnie Yen is the coolest human."
[00:19:12] And I was like, "I agree."
[00:19:13] Yeah.
[00:19:14] And then I was mad that we were recording this tonight so I couldn't come home and immediately
[00:19:17] just watch John Wick 4 because I would have.
[00:19:21] I was in.
[00:19:22] I was in there.
[00:19:23] You're in that zone.
[00:19:24] I mean, it's, I was going to say you can do it after a record, but it is three hours
[00:19:26] long.
[00:19:27] You might have to go to bed.
[00:19:28] Yeah.
[00:19:29] Exactly.
[00:19:30] You can fast forward to the Donnie Yen scenes.
[00:19:31] Yeah.
[00:19:32] The kitchen fight where he does the superhero punchery winds up.
[00:19:35] That's all I need.
[00:19:36] So cool.
[00:19:37] So good.
[00:19:38] That's cinema.
[00:19:39] Yes, it is.
[00:19:40] All right.
[00:19:41] So Wesley Snipes is one of my names.
[00:19:42] Mike D, who's your third name?
[00:19:43] My third name is favorite of the show, favorite of the favorite of the pod, Bill Paxton.
[00:19:48] Bill Paxton.
[00:19:49] Okay.
[00:19:50] Bill Paxton.
[00:19:51] Yes.
[00:19:52] What could be said about Bill Paxton, other than we love him, we've watched a bunch of
[00:19:55] his movies on Mike and Mike go to the movies recently, right?
[00:20:00] Or just this past year I made you watch, how can I forget the movie that he directed?
[00:20:04] Oh, well.
[00:20:05] Frailty.
[00:20:06] Yes.
[00:20:07] Frailty.
[00:20:08] Yes.
[00:20:09] Frailty.
[00:20:10] But of course, one of my favorites, babysitter movies of Twister.
[00:20:11] I mean, Titanic, Terminator, Aliens, Edge of Tomorrow, Two Stone, True Lies, Near Dark, the
[00:20:16] Spy Kids movies, apparently.
[00:20:17] I don't remember that.
[00:20:19] He plays dinky wings in the Spy Kids movies.
[00:20:21] Look at that.
[00:20:22] In two and three.
[00:20:23] He's not in the first one.
[00:20:24] Club Dread, which is amazing.
[00:20:28] Butcher Baker, Nightmare Maker, of course, I think the fun thing of a Bill Paxton season
[00:20:33] would be all of those very early single scene, just fucking like, I'm a guy with spiky hair
[00:20:40] rolls, like he is in Terminator or whatever, or like he's just the dude that bullies the
[00:20:45] kid for two or three scenes in Butcher Baker, Nightmare Maker, right?
[00:20:49] He's in a lot of things like that before he starts moving up into Meteor and Meteor supporting
[00:20:54] rolls and then eventually leading rolls, and that was so much fun.
[00:20:57] I think he's the only person to, if I remember right, to be killed by a Terminator, is he
[00:21:01] no more for end the Predator?
[00:21:02] I believe that's true.
[00:21:03] I think it's him and Lance Hendrickson.
[00:21:05] I think he might be right.
[00:21:06] That might be it, which is amazing.
[00:21:09] So that'd be so much fun.
[00:21:11] - Hey, how's it going? - I'm going to be watching that kind of stuff and just he's one of our most beloved actors, you know? And he's just in a ton of crazy shit even as just a supporting role, like just some great movies. So Bill Paxton. Yeah, I love Bill Paxton. I think it's a great choice. And it is, yeah, so many of my favorite movies are in there. I recently, for Inferno, like two months in a row, we did Aliens in October. And then in November, we did a Predator Double Feature. So we watched Predator and Predator 2. And I got to watch Bill Paxton in Aliens and in Predator 2. Basically playing the same thing.
[00:21:40] Same character in both movies and just killing it. He's so funny in Aliens, but especially in Predator 2.
[00:21:48] I don't know. There's something insane about his performance that I really loved. Yeah. No, I think it's a great choice.
[00:21:52] How can I forget to neglect to mention the ultimate Bill Paxton role vertical limit?
[00:22:00] A movie that you have already made me watch. Actually, you've made me watch vertical limit
[00:22:06] and you made me watch Trespass. Trespass. I was going to say Trespass 2.
[00:22:09] And frailty. So you've made me watch certain Bill Paxton movies already.
[00:22:13] I'm trying to get a secret 3.5 season of Bill Paxton, whether or not he is season four.
[00:22:18] Yes. And we twister, actually. That's right. Yeah.
[00:22:22] Just every birthday movie for on Mike and Mike, I'm going to pick up Bill Paxton.
[00:22:27] So no matter what Bill Paxton, we'll get covered in the podcast. So there's that.
[00:22:32] Okay. So Bill Paxton is your third name. My third name is an actress who
[00:22:39] I have grown to really appreciate over the years. And that is Nicole Kidman.
[00:22:43] Yeah. Nicole Kidman, I think is a really fascinating actor using her star power as a tool to help
[00:22:50] interesting filmmakers get their work made. It seems like she's really drawn to weird shit.
[00:22:54] And I really appreciate that about her. And she's consistently been working since the 90s.
[00:22:59] There's not really been any kind of lull in the Nicole Kidman career. And she is now the face of
[00:23:05] the movies. Anytime anybody goes to a movie, AMC theaters, Nicole Kidman is there to greet you.
[00:23:11] And yeah, I think she's really, really great. I think it was around, I've always liked Nicole
[00:23:16] Kidman, but I think in 2022, when the Northman came out, I was kind of like really blown away
[00:23:22] about her performance in the Northman. And I was like, Oh man, Nicole Kidman, like she's killing it
[00:23:26] here. And kind of like went back and like looked at some of her other stuff and was like, Oh yeah,
[00:23:29] no, she was great in this. And she was great in this. So yeah, some of the directors we covered in
[00:23:33] Nicole Kidman series. You got Tony Scott, Ron Howard, Joel Schumacher, Gus Van Sant,
[00:23:38] Jane Campion, Stanley Kubrick, Baz Lerman, Lars Von Schrier, Jonathan Glaser, Frank Oz,
[00:23:44] Nora Efron, George Miller, Noah Baumbeck, Park Chan, Wook, Werner Herzog, Yorghos Lanthamos,
[00:23:49] Sophia Coppola, Karen Kusama, James Wan, Ryan Murphy, Aaron Sorkin, and Robert Eggers. I think
[00:23:54] of all the actors that I have worked with directors, I think she has looked the longest list of
[00:23:58] interesting people that she works with. And I know you just watched Destroyer like three or four
[00:24:04] nights ago, right? Mike, last night I finished it. Oh, nice. Yeah. What'd you think of a destroyer?
[00:24:08] Um, definitely secret, secret, very good movie. A lot of the comments on the or comments that
[00:24:15] reviews and stuff on Letterbox were like, don't believe the meme that Destroyer is bad. And I
[00:24:20] agree with them. I think it rules. It goes really hard. It's, uh, it's like, it's like Karen Kusama
[00:24:25] doing like a, um, man who goes too far, Michael Mann cop movie, you know, it's like that style of
[00:24:31] neo-noir kind of thing. Um, and it's awesome. Nicole give it as great at it. And I think that is
[00:24:36] having just watched that makes me be like very excited to do a, uh, Nicole Kidman season. Because
[00:24:42] I think I, I think I sort of have the, you know, kind of pop culture like, well, I don't know,
[00:24:47] she's like, she's, she's okay, you know, like kind of thing. But, um, having just watched that and
[00:24:51] sort of like been thinking about the Northman and stuff like the more recent things being like,
[00:24:55] wait a second. This is a really interesting, would be really interesting portrait of, uh, of somebody
[00:25:01] that has like great mainstream success and pivots that into doing just weird character stuff that
[00:25:07] she seems more interested in doing. So yeah, I think that'd be a great pick.
[00:25:11] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I just watched eyes wide shut this past year. I talked about that on our,
[00:25:15] um, Mike and Mike top 10 episode is my number one discovery of 2023. Uh, you know, just stuff like
[00:25:19] Stoker. Um, I love love love Stoker. And she's great in that. And yeah, so, so much good stuff.
[00:25:25] I the only con I can think of to Nicole Kidman season is that we did cover one of her movies
[00:25:29] already, Mike. Do you remember which movie it was? Um, it's the, it's the one where she's
[00:25:33] Nick Cage's husband. And I think, well, she's his wife. But yeah, you know what I mean? Nick Cage
[00:25:37] is her husband. And I want to say unknown, but that's wrong, but it's, it's like a single word
[00:25:42] thing. It's the one with Ben Mendelsohn. Yes. Unknown is a Liam Neeson movie. Uh, no, uh, you're
[00:25:47] thinking of trespass, which is the one. Yeah. So Nicole Kidman was in trespass, uh, which, you
[00:25:53] know, to be fair, it's been like six years since we watched trespass. So, uh, it doesn't really feel
[00:25:58] like there's too much overlap, but there is one Nick Cage movie in her filmography that, uh, would
[00:26:02] be in there as well. That'd be fine. I think having a single overlap is pretty good. It's not that
[00:26:07] considering like where we are at this point in the podcast and all that stuff. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:26:11] Yeah. Uh, sweet. All right. So Nicole Kidman's in there. Uh, who's your fourth name, Mike?
[00:26:16] My fourth name is somebody that, uh, made both of our top 10 discoveries this past year recently.
[00:26:24] And that's George C. Scott. Okay. Mostly on the power of how good exorcist three is.
[00:26:30] No. Um, I think, I think it'd be really interesting to, to you track George C. Scott and just sort of
[00:26:37] what I, you know, passing familiarity with a lot of his things. Of course he's in, uh, you know,
[00:26:42] Dr. Strangelove and, and, uh, 12 angry men and, and all this kind of stuff and some of these
[00:26:47] great movies, uh, of all time, which like a lot of picks have been, uh, yeah. But also, I think,
[00:26:52] is in a lot of weird genre stuff towards the end of his career or later stages of his career,
[00:26:56] like exorcist three, or the changeling or hardcore, Paul the Paul Schrader movie,
[00:27:01] the hustler he's into. So I think, I think it'd just be really fun. And, and, uh, I, I sort of
[00:27:07] think of him as he's in one of the Christmas carol versions, I think. And that's sort of like,
[00:27:12] by, by popular, like when I think of George C. Scott, it's either, uh, whatever his character
[00:27:18] is from Strangelove, I was, I can't, there's so many names in that movie. He's turning it,
[00:27:21] he plays a general of Buck Terginson. Terginson. I was going to say Terginson. I was like,
[00:27:25] I can't remember if that's him or not. Um, or, uh, from Christmas carol, like, I, that's sort of
[00:27:32] what I think of, what I think of George C. Scott. So I think just this go, another one of these just
[00:27:36] gruff action man, uh, people would be, would be fun. Nice. Yeah. I think that's a great choice. I
[00:27:41] love George C. Scott. Uh, you know, I, I'm sensing it. I picked out the theme of your people right
[00:27:46] away. It seems like, um, all of these, all of these people are dead and are no longer making movies.
[00:27:51] All right. Wanted end date. Uh, understandable. Um, so yeah, I think George C. Scott's great. Uh,
[00:27:59] you know, I'm looking at the filmography now and he's somebody who I think you would think is in like
[00:28:04] a ton of movies and he doesn't actually have that many movies to his photography. Um, you know,
[00:28:09] it's like less than I would, like it's a manageable season of the podcast. Um, so that's, that's
[00:28:14] interesting. I do like that. Um, but yeah, I mean, you got Dr. Strangelove. You got the hustler,
[00:28:17] anatomy of a murder. That movie's incredible. Yeah. And then yeah, as it goes on, um, oh,
[00:28:23] islands in the stream, uh, which, uh, that's, that's the one he's in taps also. I love taps. I haven't
[00:28:28] seen that in forever, but that movie rules. There you go. Posh Raiders hardcore, uh, the changeling
[00:28:33] fire starter. Uh, yeah. And actually, which fire starter sucks. That, that's a big con right there.
[00:28:39] I've never seen that one. Big plus day of the dolphin. I have always wanted to see day of the
[00:28:44] dolphin, um, which does have the greatest tagline in movie history, um, which I think I can repeat
[00:28:49] from memory. It's like, uh, um, maybe I can't do my memory, but it's basically like by accident,
[00:28:54] he unwittingly trained the dolphin to kill the president of United States. Yeah. Unwittingly,
[00:28:58] he trained a dolphin to kill the president of the United States. Beautiful. Uh, uh, yeah,
[00:29:03] the rescuers down under, uh, is a, is a George C Scott movie. Um, yeah, no, there's, there's
[00:29:08] some good stuff here. So yeah, definitely, uh, in consideration for sure, Mike. Excellent. I'm
[00:29:12] glad. All right. So, uh, yeah, George C Scott is your fourth name. My fourth name is going to be
[00:29:17] Kirsten Dunst. Oh, um, and part of my reason for this is that, uh, I think I say this every time
[00:29:23] we do a new season of the show, uh, we haven't done a child actor yet. You know, we've never done a
[00:29:27] child actor and they're kind of transitioned to adulthood before last season. We did have Natalie
[00:29:33] Portman in the mix. True. And she, I think it was still technically eligible for this season. Uh,
[00:29:37] she's not one of my names because, uh, she really performed very badly in the poll last year. Yeah.
[00:29:42] She may have the made December bump now though. I was, I was thinking about that. I was like,
[00:29:46] Oh, you know, but now the made December is out. People are on the portman train, but like at that
[00:29:50] time, uh, we were kind of in the hype mode for Thor, love and thunder and like the promo photos
[00:29:55] were coming out and it's like, Oh man, people are excited about Natalie Portman again. And
[00:29:59] yeah, it didn't really translate in the, in the poll, which was kind of a bummer because I love
[00:30:02] Natalie Portman. I think she'd be really fun. Uh, but Kirsten Dunst, also a child actor, uh,
[00:30:07] who kind of transitioned into adult roles. And, uh, also she's just one of the best. I don't know,
[00:30:11] I love Kirsten Dunst. Uh, she's always a great presence. Uh, she brings a very like feminine energy
[00:30:15] into everything she does. She often makes it a point to work with female directors. Uh, and so
[00:30:19] I think that's kind of cool. Uh, some of the directors we cover. You got Brian De Palma,
[00:30:22] Jillian Armstrong, uh, Joe Johnston, Don Bluth, Barry Levinson, Hey, Oh, Miyazaki, Joe Dante,
[00:30:27] uh, a ton of Sophia Coppola movies. Um, uh, Peter bactanovich, uh, Sam Raimi, of course.
[00:30:33] So we finally talk about Spider-Man two on the podcast, uh, Michelle Gondry, Cameron Crowe,
[00:30:38] Lars Von Trier, Jeff Nichols, Jane Campion, Alex Garland. Uh, I think really, uh, the only
[00:30:43] con I could think of, and that's even if you consider this a con, is that it is kind of a shorter
[00:30:47] season. She actually doesn't have that many movies. I was going to say, I feel like recently,
[00:30:51] she's slow down. She's in really great things, but not in a lot. Exactly. Yeah. She kind of, it has
[00:30:58] been pretty selective with her roles. She did a little bit of TV stuff. She had a show on Showtime,
[00:31:02] I think. I mean, she was in Fargo season two, which she was fantastic in. And that's where she met
[00:31:07] Jesse Plemons, who is now her husband. And they have started like three or four movies together,
[00:31:11] uh, including, uh, power of the dog, uh, which was a big one, but she also had a show called, uh,
[00:31:15] on becoming a god in central Florida, uh, which I never watched. I heard was good. And then it was
[00:31:19] canceled after one season. She had an episode, she was in an episode of Black Mirror, um,
[00:31:23] you know, a couple of TV things here and there. Um, and then she is going to be the star,
[00:31:27] or one of the stars of Alex Arlen's Civil War, which comes out later this year.
[00:31:31] Yeah. I'm excited for that. And I think, uh, she's going to be a fun, a really fun season.
[00:31:35] Yeah. I think so too. Can't so watch Jumanji. Yeah. I mean, you got Jumanji, you got small soldiers, uh,
[00:31:42] I'm gonna pull an audible and put Ernest Borknite as one of my guys just so we
[00:31:46] We're going to maneuver this podcast in such a way where, at some point, we're going
[00:31:55] to recover small cells, correct. But yeah, I mean, Kiki's delivery service is also in
[00:32:00] there, Virgin Suicides, which I talked about on the Mike and Mike pod after my discoveries.
[00:32:05] And of course, the Spider-Man's, which are the best. Love them. And then, yeah, in recent
[00:32:10] years, the power of the dog and civil war, she has a cameo in Anchorman, too. Talk about
[00:32:14] that. Melancholia. Yeah, there's a lot of movies that I really like, and she's always
[00:32:19] great at them. So, yeah, Kirsten Dunce is my fourth name.
[00:32:21] Yeah, that's very fun. I like it. So, my number five, my fifth name, yes, the fifth and final
[00:32:27] name for Mike's Cricio. So, I didn't look all the way through this. So, my fifth name
[00:32:33] is Susan Tyrell, who is a character actor that popped up in two movies that I've made
[00:32:39] you watch. Yes. Or at least one of them, which was Angel. She's the landlady in Angel. Of
[00:32:45] course, the aunt in Butcher Baker Nightmare Maker. So, I'm hedging my bet between Bill
[00:32:49] Paxton and Susan Tyrell will get a Butcher Baker on there. Yeah. However, I'm looking
[00:32:53] through, she's in a lot of other great stuff. She won an Oscar for Fat City, the Jeff Bridges
[00:32:58] like boxing movie or whatever. Girl, she's in Crybaby. She's in a ton of Ralph Bakshi
[00:33:03] voiceover roles and stuff like that. So, that'd be fun. But I didn't remember that she's
[00:33:08] in Powder. Yeah, the Jeff Goldblum movie that we covered, which neither of us liked very
[00:33:16] much. No. So, I'm sort of putting a big con on myself on that one, which is a tragedy.
[00:33:22] Because I think that'd be fun. She's the other person on my list that is also in Islands
[00:33:27] in the Stream with George C. Scott, which we were talking about before we started recording.
[00:33:32] And then, yeah, I think she's just somebody that'd be really fascinating from the couple
[00:33:35] movies that I have seen from her. She brings this wild energy to it. And I guess reading
[00:33:40] a little bit on her Wikipedia page that she was more of a stage actor at the beginning
[00:33:44] of her career and transitioned into film things. So, I think it'd be maybe interesting. I don't
[00:33:49] know if she's connected to like Altman or anything like that in the way like Jeff Goldblum
[00:33:54] and like we were talking about with like Nashville and things like that. And that whole improvised
[00:33:59] live theater stuff bleeding over into film and all the same kind of troupe all working
[00:34:04] together and stuff like that. Right. Maybe like with Bogdanovich and stuff, I don't know,
[00:34:08] with Fat City and Jeff Bridges and all that. So, I don't know. I think it'd just be interesting
[00:34:12] to track her weird film career, except for powder. But, Susan Tyrell. Okay, interesting.
[00:34:20] Yeah. I think, you know, I like Susan Tyrell. I like her in Butcher Baker, Nightmare Maker.
[00:34:26] But yeah, I think that could be an interesting one. It is definitely a lot of stuff that
[00:34:29] I haven't seen which is nice. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. And it's also kind of a shorter
[00:34:35] one as well. Okay. So, Susan Tyrell is your fifth name. Yes. And then my fifth name, man.
[00:34:42] Okay. So, I texted you earlier and said that, you know, we put it out there on Twitter
[00:34:48] being like, hey, anybody, you know, we're recording our episode today, figuring out
[00:34:51] who the finalists are going to be. Any last minute pitches, any names that people want
[00:34:55] to throw out there, we will take them and maybe consider them, you know. And so, we put it
[00:35:01] out there and we got a lot of names that were returned back to us. And so, I have a
[00:35:05] name written here that I had locked in like two months ago. Okay. And part of me wants
[00:35:10] to go with that name. But somebody suggested somebody on Twitter that I think would be
[00:35:18] a really good season. And I'm going back and forth. And I was like, I'm going to wait
[00:35:21] to see if Mike ends up picking that person. And you didn't. So, now I have to like decide
[00:35:26] whether I want to go with my original pick or whether I want to go with the replacement
[00:35:30] pick. Well, cheat and say both. Should I just say both? Yeah. Cheat and say both.
[00:35:35] Okay. All right. Fine. Okay. My original pick is Antonio Banderas, who I think would
[00:35:41] be great. Pussin boots himself. That's right. Like Michelle. Yo, I think we'd be diving
[00:35:46] into a long period of films that we have less familiarity with. In this, in this case,
[00:35:50] Spanish films in the 80s, Spanish and Mexican films. Before he kind of breaks out big in
[00:35:54] America in the early 90s, he teams up with the Robert Rodriguez, he becomes a blockbuster
[00:35:58] star while still kind of making time to star in other kinds of movies too. And some of
[00:36:02] the directors we cover in that one, you got Pedro Motivar, Jonathan Demi, Robert Rodriguez,
[00:36:06] Richard Donner, Alan Parker, Martin Campbell, John McTyrnan, Brian De Palma, Julie Taimoor,
[00:36:11] Steven Soderbergh, Terence Malick, and James Mangold. These are all people that have worked
[00:36:15] with Ben Bares. And also, he's in the New Indiana Jones. So, that was a weird thing
[00:36:19] that I forgot about until I was looking at his geography. Do you not remember that?
[00:36:23] Yeah, he's like the bo-capping guy. Yeah. It's way, he shows up, he's in it for 10 minutes
[00:36:26] and then he dies. And you're like, why did they get Antonio Banderas? Yeah. So, I think
[00:36:32] the con here is sort of a con that we sort of thought about going into the Michelle
[00:36:35] yo season, which is that it might be difficult to find some of those earlier Spanish films.
[00:36:40] Right. You know, and it's also less of an arc than some of my other people have and
[00:36:44] more of like a random hodgepodge of stuff towards the end because Antonio Banderas just
[00:36:48] kind of pops up in a lot of stuff, which is also fun. There's a lot of variety and the
[00:36:51] different things that he does. Like he's the bad guy in the second Spongebob movie.
[00:36:55] Incredible. Yeah, he's like, he's the live action character who's just a pirate and all
[00:36:59] that stuff, which is fun. So Antonio Banderas was my original pick. My, let's say a quote
[00:37:05] unquote sixth pick or my replacement pick. This was suggested by somebody on Twitter.
[00:37:10] I'm trying to think of who I'm going to check real quick who it was just to give them credit
[00:37:15] for the pick because I was like, so like, man, that's a great choice. Why didn't I think
[00:37:20] of that? It was which one of my friends was it, Mike? It was definitely one of your friends.
[00:37:26] And for some reason it's Oh, Matt Abernathy, Matt Abernathy picked this name. And I thought
[00:37:32] about it and I was like, I looked at the filmography and I was like, Oh, this would be actually
[00:37:34] pretty fun. And that is Jeffrey Wright. Huh. I, how did, how did I never think of Jeffrey
[00:37:41] Wright? We were just singing his praises last episode, I think, right? I think it was what
[00:37:45] were we talking about? Something in the top 10 of the year, I think we were talking about
[00:37:48] Jeffrey Wright. Oh, you know, Astro City had to be at the Astro City. Yeah, Astro City.
[00:37:53] But so last week I just went to go see American fiction, which is a movie that I think is
[00:37:57] pretty good. I don't think the movie is great, but I think it's pretty good. And Jeffrey Wright's
[00:38:00] great in it. And Jeffrey Wright is always great. Yeah. And so I've been kind of thinking
[00:38:05] about that recently. We're like, Oh man, Jeffrey Wright's always great. And he's finally
[00:38:08] been kind of getting recognition for being always great. You know, I think because of
[00:38:12] his work with Wes Anderson, you know, people saw him in French dispatch, which he's amazing
[00:38:16] in that movie. And even his smaller role in Astro City, he's amazing. American fiction
[00:38:20] just got an Oscar nomination. And he's great in that. He's also Commissioner Gordon in
[00:38:24] Robert Pattinson's Batman movie. He's the watcher on Marvel's What If now, like, he's
[00:38:29] popping up in a lot of stuff. And he's always been popping up in a lot of stuff. But I
[00:38:31] feel like lately people have been recognizing like, man, Jeffrey Wright, what a great actor.
[00:38:37] And you know, you look through the filmography. And of course, you got some of the Dan Craig
[00:38:39] Bond movies, you got the Hunger Games movies, you know, he's been part of like franchises.
[00:38:46] And he's also just been like a character actor who pops up in a lot of things like source
[00:38:49] code, which I think source code was like the first movie that I really liked. Clocked
[00:38:53] Jeffrey Wright is being like, man, this guy rules. Right. You know, there's that movie.
[00:38:58] And there's, you know, only lovers left alive. He's in game nights. He's in game night. And
[00:39:03] he's great in that movie. Yeah, a lot of stuff. And then of course, there's Westworld, which
[00:39:08] you know, we probably have to cover at least the first episode of Westworld. But you know,
[00:39:11] he was a big part of like why that show was good for a while, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that
[00:39:15] first season of Westworld with him is stuck in a sense. It's great. And he's he's in the
[00:39:18] show. I think the entire run. I think he's in all four seasons. I watched the first three
[00:39:23] seasons and I was like, you can't keep tricking me into thinking the show's going to get
[00:39:26] good again. Westworld. It can't, it can't happen. Can't do it. I have heard that season
[00:39:31] four is pretty good, but I will never know. That's for, that's for stronger men to tell
[00:39:37] me exactly. Yeah, but I think, you know, he was in Casino Royale in '06 and then source
[00:39:41] code was 2011. And then right after that, he joined the main cast of Boardwalk Empire,
[00:39:45] which was a show I really loved. And he was great in that show. And so yeah, Jeffrey
[00:39:49] Wright is a name that was thrown out there on Twitter today. Thank you to Matt for posting
[00:39:54] that one because I hadn't even occurred to me. You know, just a name that like, man,
[00:39:58] this guy rule. I love him. Yeah, that's a tough choice between Banderas and Jeffrey Wright.
[00:40:02] Right. Because I kind of, I would like both honestly. That's the tricky thing. Yeah,
[00:40:06] that's a hard part. Yeah, I think, I think a Jeffrey Wright season would be a lot of
[00:40:08] fun. Is he in a lot of stuff though? I don't know. Like, is it, would it be like, is he
[00:40:12] in like 150 credits or something crazy? It's not like that. It's not 150. He isn't a lot
[00:40:17] of stuff, but it's like a manageable amount, I think. Okay. That's good. Because that's
[00:40:20] always the fear is like, Oh, yeah, we'll do this person. Oh, what? Yeah. Nice. All right.
[00:40:27] So that goes through all of our names. So Mike had five. I ended up with six. Sure. Why
[00:40:32] not? Accidentally. But basically, you know, no matter how many we have on our list, you
[00:40:38] know, we do have to make some eliminations now. We have to figure it out. So to recap,
[00:40:43] your five, Mike, Walter Matt, Walter Matt thou, Roy Shider, Bill Paxton, George C. Scott
[00:40:49] and Susan Tyrell. Correct. And then my six, I guess, were were Michael Keaton, Wesley Snipes,
[00:40:57] Nicole Kidman, Kirsten Dunst, Antonio Banderas and Jeffrey Wright. Do you want to add a six
[00:41:02] name just in case? Like, do you just make it even or do you care at all? Oh, this was
[00:41:07] tough. I was toying with maybe and bankrupt. It was in contention for a while there because
[00:41:14] she is in, of course, the graduate. Elephant Man, you know, married to Mel Brooks. So she's in a
[00:41:22] lot of his movies and stuff. And yeah, I don't know. It would just be fun. I think it'd be interesting.
[00:41:26] It's somebody that I think does not get maybe much attention from the like a Mel Brooks troop,
[00:41:32] you know, and I think it'd be an interesting career to chart. Sure. Yeah. I think with the Mel
[00:41:37] Brooks troop, you always hear about Don Delouis and Madeline Kahn and Gene Wilder and all that stuff.
[00:41:43] But yeah, and bankrupt despite being married to Mel Brooks and in a few of his movies. I mean,
[00:41:48] she's in a few of his movies, but usually not in a huge role, right? It's usually a cameo or
[00:41:52] something. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And it's a lot of the ones that I haven't seen. At least I'm
[00:41:57] looking at Letterbox real quick and it's silent movie and to be or not to be and Dracula did
[00:42:03] loving it. Right. And those are the Bell Brooks movies I haven't seen. And yeah, I don't know.
[00:42:09] I think it'd be interesting. It's somebody whose presence is obviously held to shape a lot of
[00:42:15] pop culture and movies and things. And I seem probably produced a lot of stuff alongside Mel Brooks.
[00:42:22] Yeah, but doesn't her acting career doesn't get much attention, at least that I'm aware of.
[00:42:27] So I don't know, it seemed to seem to be fun. Yeah, definitely. She is in one movie that we
[00:42:32] have covered so far, Mike. Andy, can you guess which movie it is?
[00:42:35] Oh, yes. Not even in Vegas. There it is. Oh, you saw the letter box. I saw the letter box,
[00:42:40] but I did remember seeing that when I thought of an aircraft earlier, but forgot about it.
[00:42:44] So we each have one person with a single crossover and they're both in a cage. Interesting.
[00:42:50] Yes. Yeah, it's very good, very good. Okay. So your and braincrab is going to be your sixth.
[00:42:54] That's going to be your sixth name. Sure, right. Sure. All right. Cool. Well,
[00:42:58] I guess we'll go back and forth. Do you want to eliminate one of my names first, Mike,
[00:43:01] and then I'll eliminate one of yours? Sure. I think it's tough, it's a chef.
[00:43:07] Should I recap my name just in case? Just in case. Okay. Yeah. My names are Michael Keaton,
[00:43:11] Wesley Snipes, Nicole Kidman, Kirsten Dunst, Antonio Banderas, and Jeffrey Wright.
[00:43:19] And Jeffrey Wright. Damn. That's hard. I think out of those people, the one I'm least interested
[00:43:29] in, I think Michael Keaton. Man. Okay. That's a tough call. That is a tough one.
[00:43:35] I think it'd be really fun, but it's got the flash leaving over large.
[00:43:39] And I think the other people might just have more more more interested. Okay. Fair enough.
[00:43:47] All right. And Michael Keaton is out. I'll try him again another season.
[00:43:51] Yes. All right. So Michael Keaton's out. So now I got to eliminate one of your guys.
[00:43:57] And so your choices are Walter Mathau, Roy Scheider, George C. Scott, Bill Paxton,
[00:44:02] Susan Tyrell, and Anne Bancroft. And I think, I think Susan Tyrell has to go.
[00:44:09] Reason rule. You know, I think she is really great in the stuff I've seen her in.
[00:44:14] I love Butcher Baker, Nightmare Maker, to a degree that I probably shouldn't.
[00:44:18] That might be problematic. Yeah. I was talking to Charlie McCorn, a friend of the show who,
[00:44:24] you know, runs Trash Vault at the Roxy. And I was like, you got to show this movie, Butcher
[00:44:28] Baker, Nightmare. Like she was asking me like, oh, some Trash Vault stuff that I would pitch.
[00:44:32] And Butcher Baker, Nightmare Maker was a movie I brought up. And I was like, yeah, but you know,
[00:44:35] I mean, there's some homophobic stuff in there. But like once you get past that, and also like,
[00:44:39] it's sort of weirdly progressive at the end, once you get to it, you know? Yeah, yeah.
[00:44:43] You got to deal with the Bose Vincent of it all, you know? Right. So I might,
[00:44:48] I think I'm going to lend my blue right to Charlie to see if see what she thinks about it. And yeah,
[00:44:52] you never know. Could be, could be in there. But yeah, but I'm going to get rid of Susan Tyrell.
[00:44:56] So she, she's great. But unfortunately, just not going to make the cut for me.
[00:45:00] You know, that's fair. Once I saw a powder in there, I would have also made the same decision.
[00:45:06] I can, if I can eliminate Michael Keaton for the flash, you can eliminate Susan Tyrell for
[00:45:10] I think that's fair. All right. So you got to eliminate one more mine, Mike, or a few more
[00:45:15] of mine, but for the next one. So Wesley Snipes, Nicole Kidman, Kirsten Dunst, Antonio Banderas,
[00:45:20] or Jeffrey Wright? Oh man, that's tough. I think I am going to eliminate Wesley Snipes.
[00:45:28] Okay. I Wesley Snipes. That's tough. I felt like when you, when we first started,
[00:45:33] I was like locked. Wesley Snipes, for sure. He's in. Yeah. But I think just the other people. And I
[00:45:38] think also you kind of bringing up the similar arc to cage. I talked you out of it. You talked
[00:45:45] me out of it a little bit. I think, I think he would be, I think that'd be one of the more fun
[00:45:50] seasons just purely on what movies we would be watching. But I think the kind of season-long
[00:45:56] story that we would be building and discovering would feel too similar. Okay. Fair enough. I
[00:46:02] totally get it. So Wesley Snipes out of contention. He's out for the complete works season four, man.
[00:46:08] No, no, Dolomite is my name ever on this podcast because we almost had Eddie Murphy for season two.
[00:46:13] Eddie Murphy, it was almost, it was very, very close between Jeff Goldblum and Eddie Murphy.
[00:46:17] And that was back before we did the Twitter poll. We basically had producer Colin and Flippa
[00:46:20] Cohen. Yeah. And Goldblum ended up being it. So yeah, unfortunately, no Wesley Snipes. But all
[00:46:26] right. It feels like any time I eliminate one of these names, it's like, Oh man, this hurts a little.
[00:46:31] It's tough. It's tough. I feel bad for all these people who will have no idea there's a podcast
[00:46:36] based on them anyway. All the money. Especially yours, because all of yours.
[00:46:40] Mike D has an agenda here, people. He does not want to interrupt the season any more than we
[00:46:47] have to. All right. So you eliminated Wesley Snipes. Now I can eliminate. You got Walter
[00:46:53] Mathau, Roy Scheider, George C. Scott, Bill Paxton, and Bancroft. I think as much as this pains me.
[00:47:00] I'm going to eliminate Bill Paxton. You son of a bitch.
[00:47:04] Partially because, you know, even though they haven't really been covered on the complete works,
[00:47:10] we have talked about many of his movies on my face. That is very fair. He's probably the
[00:47:15] person on my list that I've seen the most of their movies, obviously.
[00:47:20] Right. And see them like frequently. Right. And most of their stuff. I mean,
[00:47:25] there is stuff where Bill Paxton is. I think it's very rare when Bill Paxton is the lead of
[00:47:29] something. I mean, Twister, he's the lead, but he's mostly a character actor, mostly supporting
[00:47:34] actor, did some directing here and there. And has a fascinating career. I love Bill Paxton,
[00:47:38] love his presence. But yeah, I don't know. I just couldn't. Based on these other names,
[00:47:43] I think I have to eliminate them. That's fair. Yeah. I think I think you're right. I think the
[00:47:48] weight of substantial roles to single scene roles would be very skewed to the single scene or yeah,
[00:47:56] style of episodes and stuff. And those are those are those are those can be a slog when we start
[00:48:01] getting through like, you know, three, four, five, six for Bill Paxton, 20 in a row. Sure. Yeah.
[00:48:06] I mean, it would be similar to the the start of the Jeff Goldblum season where it's like, okay,
[00:48:10] I mean, that was that was a great era. We had a lot of fun watching those 70s movies,
[00:48:14] but they were all movies where Jeff Goldblum pops in for, you know, five seconds says one line and
[00:48:18] walks away, you know, that killed by Charles Bronson. Yeah. Yeah. Either gets killed by Charles
[00:48:22] Bronson or walks into another room like in California split, you know, he pops up and leaves.
[00:48:26] So yeah, unfortunately, I think I got rid of Bill Paxton, which does mean that what your
[00:48:31] big nightmare maker is now completely off the table. No, we got to start over. We got to
[00:48:34] take two people. We, we, we got to put both friends in on my list. We got to talk about special
[00:48:39] delivery again, again. It's that movie, fucking riffs that was good. I started this list. I had
[00:48:44] both Vincent on here. Really? It was like, if you were to watch a special delivery again for the
[00:48:50] pan to fire pan to mailbox out the window. Remember? Yes. So, so good. All right. So
[00:48:58] Bill Paxton's out. I'm now down to four mics down to four. All right, Mike. I got Nicole Kidman,
[00:49:04] Kirsten Dunst, Antonio Banderas, and Jeffrey Wright left. Who are you picking? Oh my God,
[00:49:09] this is hard. This is tough. I know who I, I think I know who I want them to be. Okay.
[00:49:15] But like, I also want the other two people. I am going to eliminate.
[00:49:22] Boy, this is hard. Jeffrey Wright. What are you doing? Okay. Jeffrey Wright, he's out, you know.
[00:49:30] Sorry, Matt Abernathy, who suggested Jeffrey Wright. It was a great choice. You know, it
[00:49:35] really made me like reconsider my entire list today. Like I had a little bit of a crisis.
[00:49:39] And I think at, at this moment, Jeffrey Wright is having like, you know, probably the biggest
[00:49:43] moment of his career where he's in a lot of stuff and getting recognition for it. And that's great.
[00:49:47] But, you know, who, who's to say we can't do Jeffrey Wright in the future, you know? Yeah.
[00:49:52] Oh, man. That's hard. You talk, maybe you talk me back into it. Oh, no. No, it's all right.
[00:49:59] No, we got, we got, we can't talk people back in. We got, we got to just lock in our votes.
[00:50:03] And we can't look backwards. Exactly. Yeah. We must move forward. All right. So I'm down to three.
[00:50:08] Mike D has four left. I have to eliminate one of these four, Walter Mathau, Roy Scheider,
[00:50:13] George C. Scott, and Bancroft. And I think based on the filmography, as much as I would enjoy
[00:50:21] watching some Mel Brooks movies, I think I have to get rid of Bancroft.
[00:50:26] I just think Mathau, Scheider, and George C. Scott have a more interesting filmography.
[00:50:31] I think Bancroft has to go, unfortunately, even though she's great, even though I love the graduates
[00:50:36] and now I'm talking myself. Yeah, it's tough. Oh, don't bother to knock his name Bancroft movie.
[00:50:44] No, but I think I'm going to eliminate her. She's great and is in a lot of good movies, but
[00:50:49] just can't hang with the other filmographies, I think.
[00:50:53] That's fair. You know, it's you got to do it. You got to do.
[00:50:56] All right. Okay. We're down to three. So now we basically each have to eliminate
[00:51:00] one more person, and then we're locked in. We have our four finalists.
[00:51:04] Yes. Okay. So my three that are left are Nicole Kidman,
[00:51:08] Kirsten Dunst, and Antonio Banderas. Oh, my God. Three of our greatest living,
[00:51:14] still working actors, you know? All terrific. All terrific. All really great.
[00:51:20] I am going to eliminate. Now I don't know. I think I'm going to eliminate Antonio Banderas.
[00:51:29] Okay. Banderas is out. He's out. All right. It's my two living female actors versus your two
[00:51:36] dead male actors. All right. Okay. So my finalist, then we can say, my two finalists on my side
[00:51:45] of the team are Nicole Kidman and Kirsten Dunst. Yes. And those were the two that I was when you
[00:51:51] were reading off the list, I was like, okay, I think these are going to be the two. Having Antonio
[00:51:55] Banderas in there was a real twist for me. Okay. Because you're a big person who's the last
[00:52:01] wish guy. Big person who's the last wish guy. Huge Zoro guy. That was like my personality
[00:52:06] when I was 10. Yeah. Whenever that movie came out. As was our editor and music supervisor,
[00:52:12] Kyle Cullen, who was the biggest Zoro guy, he took fencing because of Zoro. He did fencing
[00:52:17] for years because of the mask of Zoro. That's awesome. But I feel like I was going to do
[00:52:25] then I was like, maybe I'll do Kidman and Banderas, but those feel like they cover similar, at least
[00:52:30] eras and time periods. Sure. Yeah. And maybe not like literal arc of their career, but just,
[00:52:34] I feel like they're near the same age or at least as far as popular cultures stuff. And yeah,
[00:52:40] I think the Kidman and Dunst and having that, you know, child actor stuff for Kirsten Dunst
[00:52:47] could be very interesting to chart. And then now similar thing, they're into both just
[00:52:51] can do whatever they want and use their weight and star power to make weird shit.
[00:52:56] So
[00:52:58] I'm in for both of them. Okay.
[00:52:59] Nicole Kidman, Kirsten Dunst, are my two finalists.
[00:53:01] And now you have three names.
[00:53:03] I do. Three names that do cover pretty similar territory.
[00:53:07] Yes. Walter Mathau, Roy Shider, George C. Scott.
[00:53:11] Three Titans. Three Titans.
[00:53:13] I love all three of these actors.
[00:53:15] Like three people that I'm always excited to see in a movie.
[00:53:18] And it's this is a really tough one.
[00:53:21] And I'm I'm leaning towards keeping Walter Mathau.
[00:53:25] Okay, because personally, because I just watched the technical.
[00:53:28] Yeah, yeah. That poem bump.
[00:53:30] Yeah, that that poem bump is is very strong.
[00:53:33] You know, George C. Scott, great kind of a short filmography.
[00:53:37] I'm curious.
[00:53:38] Let me look at the Roy Shider filmography one more time.
[00:53:42] Let me see how many 10 out of 10 movies this guy is in.
[00:53:44] That's the thing, man.
[00:53:45] I mean, you got you got Jaws, you got Clute, French Connection,
[00:53:49] Marathon Man, Sorcerer, Jaws 2.
[00:53:51] All that jazz, I mean, Jaws 2 is not a 10 out of 10 movie,
[00:53:55] but I was just reading it off, basically.
[00:53:57] So most of that's in a row.
[00:53:59] Like most of that's like in a row in the 70s.
[00:54:01] Yeah, 2010, the sequel of 2001, A Space Odyssey,
[00:54:04] which I think is actually pretty good.
[00:54:05] I've never seen it, but I've heard secretly it's the good one.
[00:54:08] No, no, it's the good one.
[00:54:10] It's the real space odyssey that we should be watching.
[00:54:15] Yeah, Naked Lunch is in here.
[00:54:18] He's archived footage from Jaws 4 at the Revenge.
[00:54:20] I'm not sure if we'd end up covering that one or not.
[00:54:22] Yeah, yeah. Wait, Jaws 4 at the Revenge is directed by Joseph Sargent.
[00:54:25] He's directed the taking of Helen 1, 2, 3.
[00:54:27] No way.
[00:54:28] Is this his Jaws 4 secretly a masterpiece?
[00:54:31] Who's to say?
[00:54:31] Michael Kane doesn't think so.
[00:54:34] Yeah, but you get to the end of Jaws 3 at his career.
[00:54:38] And like you said, you got the Punisher.
[00:54:39] He's also in Dracula 2 Ascension and Dracula 3 Legacy,
[00:54:43] which are both like direct-to-video sequels
[00:54:45] to like the Gerard Butler Dracula movie, I think.
[00:54:47] What?
[00:54:48] That sounds fun.
[00:54:52] OK, Roy Scheider's final film is beautiful blue eyes recently.
[00:54:58] It was just released.
[00:54:59] It was a 2009 movie that was not released until 2022.
[00:55:06] OK, it had a limited theatrical release in 2010,
[00:55:08] but it was not shown publicly again until 2022.
[00:55:12] When it was retitled, beautiful blue eyes
[00:55:13] and given a new limited release to coincide
[00:55:16] with a re-release of Jaws.
[00:55:18] And it's a movie where he's a NYPD cop and a Holocaust survivor
[00:55:23] who travels to Nuremberg.
[00:55:24] OK, this movie sounds wild and weird and interesting.
[00:55:27] There was an Oscar campaign lawsuit.
[00:55:29] There was a Facebook advertising lawsuit.
[00:55:31] There are two lawsuits associated with this movie.
[00:55:33] I think Roy Scheider has to say,
[00:55:34] so we can talk about that movie at some point.
[00:55:36] And so I think George C. Scott is going to have to go.
[00:55:40] He's out.
[00:55:41] That's it.
[00:55:42] OK, so George C. Scott, I'm sorry, you're awesome.
[00:55:45] I love your movies.
[00:55:47] But, yeah, alas, that's not going to happen.
[00:55:50] All right, so my two are Nicole Kidman and Kirsten Dunst
[00:55:55] and your two are Walter Matt, that was Roy Scheider.
[00:55:58] We can't get two or four more diametrically opposed.
[00:56:02] That is so far removed from it.
[00:56:09] That's hilarious.
[00:56:13] I'm so glad that it worked out this way.
[00:56:16] Yeah, certainly if we do Walter Mather or Roy Scheider,
[00:56:21] we will be definitely covering the earliest movies
[00:56:23] we've ever covered.
[00:56:23] Like we'd be going like further back than we have.
[00:56:25] I think Jeff Goldblum had the earliest movies so far.
[00:56:28] And that was Death Wish in '74.
[00:56:29] And so Walter Mather has movies going back to the '50s.
[00:56:33] And Roy Scheider goes back to the '60s.
[00:56:34] So yeah, that would be interesting.
[00:56:37] I mean, covering different periods of film and all that stuff.
[00:56:40] But yeah, absolutely a weird group of people
[00:56:44] that we've settled on.
[00:56:45] And I love that it's very clearly too.
[00:56:48] And like Walter Matt and Roy Scheider go together.
[00:56:51] Yes, Nicole Kidman and Kirsten Dunst go together.
[00:56:53] But never the tween shall be.
[00:56:55] Until now.
[00:56:57] That's right.
[00:56:58] So I got to figure out how to weaponize Twitter
[00:57:02] to go for my people.
[00:57:03] You got to go for all the like,
[00:57:05] you know, try to contact like,
[00:57:06] you know, your one perfect shots or all the right moves.
[00:57:09] Like all your various like, you know, film nerd people.
[00:57:12] And I'm going to get the no more late fees girls on the phone.
[00:57:15] Yeah, I'm ruined.
[00:57:16] It's over.
[00:57:16] And we're going to figure this out.
[00:57:19] Yeah, I think this is going to be a really interesting poll.
[00:57:22] I'm really curious to see which direction our fans will go in, basically.
[00:57:27] Yeah.
[00:57:28] Yeah, I don't know.
[00:57:29] Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see.
[00:57:31] But I think if we do any, you know, obviously we want all four of these people,
[00:57:35] I think would all be very interesting and fun seasons.
[00:57:38] So yeah, absolutely.
[00:57:39] I will say if Nicole Kidman wins,
[00:57:41] I will insist on doing an entire episode on just the AMC.
[00:57:45] Okay, sure.
[00:57:46] I think that would have to happen, right?
[00:57:47] I think it would have to.
[00:57:48] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:57:49] Like a real breakdown, like word by word of like, you know,
[00:57:53] everything that goes into the AMC ad.
[00:57:55] We'll get that screenwriter to come on and tell us.
[00:57:58] That would be cool.
[00:57:59] I mean, that's it.
[00:58:00] It's a pretty big screenwriter who wrote that ad too.
[00:58:02] I'm blanking on who it was.
[00:58:03] Yeah.
[00:58:03] Is it Michael Green?
[00:58:05] It's Billy Ray.
[00:58:06] Oh, it's Billy Ray.
[00:58:07] What else he's written, but only because he was on a podcast with Billy Ray
[00:58:10] Bruton, who's a screen drafts regular.
[00:58:12] Right.
[00:58:13] And they were talking about like Billy, Billy Ray,
[00:58:15] but Billy Ray, but not Billy Ray.
[00:58:17] It's Billy Billy, Billy Ray.
[00:58:18] Yeah, it's the other Billy Ray.
[00:58:19] Yeah, the whole shtick.
[00:58:20] No, Billy Ray wrote Captain Phillips.
[00:58:22] Got it.
[00:58:23] Kind of his big like script.
[00:58:25] He also wrote The Hunger Games, recently wrote Gemini Man, Richard Jewell,
[00:58:29] Terminator Dark Fates.
[00:58:30] So yeah, making movies.
[00:58:33] Yeah, making some stuff for sure.
[00:58:35] Directed a couple of movies too.
[00:58:36] Directed a movie called Shatter Glass in 2003.
[00:58:39] Breach from 2007 and Secret in Their Eyes from 2015.
[00:58:43] So yeah, we're saying this is if Billy Ray is coming on the podcast.
[00:58:47] We don't know how to get a hold of it.
[00:58:49] No, not at all.
[00:58:50] But just in case, if anybody out there knows Billy Ray and you know,
[00:58:54] if he wants to come on a podcast episode to talk about the AMC commercial and just that,
[00:58:58] we won't ask any Captain Phillips questions.
[00:59:00] None.
[00:59:00] We will gladly have him on.
[00:59:03] So to recap, our four finalists for the complete works season four,
[00:59:09] Nicole Kidman, Kirsten Duns, Walter Mathow, and Roy Shatter.
[00:59:15] Oh man, I was like, there's no way I'm going to get through this without laughing.
[00:59:18] Yeah, it's just such a fun.
[00:59:20] Walter Mathow is such an ordinary old man.
[00:59:23] And, and I think has always been, you know, always was.
[00:59:27] I mean, taking the Pelham one, two, three came out in the 70s.
[00:59:29] He was already like 50.
[00:59:30] And, and that's why that movie is as good as it is.
[00:59:35] Because he's just a cranky New York City transit cop.
[00:59:38] Incredible.
[00:59:39] Yeah, I can't wait to see the results of this poll,
[00:59:42] because I think this is a really wild variety of people.
[00:59:45] Awesome.
[00:59:46] Okay.
[00:59:47] Well, we did it, Mike.
[00:59:47] We did it.
[00:59:49] Congrats to us.
[00:59:51] Yes, congrats to us.
[00:59:53] Congrats to you, the listener, for getting to, for taking this poll.
[00:59:56] So Mike D, we're going to put this out there on Monday.
[00:59:59] And then we'll do the podcast or the poll the following Monday.
[01:00:03] How are you feeling? Do you feel like your people could, could win?
[01:00:06] Do you, do you feel good about your two choices?
[01:00:08] Not a chance.
[01:00:09] You never know.
[01:00:11] You never know.
[01:00:12] I guess it depends on like what audience finds this poll or whatever.
[01:00:16] I'm also nervous about that.
[01:00:17] But I think, I think maybe I think we got some, you know, like you said, the kind of old school,
[01:00:24] you know, guys, dudes, guys being dudes kind of movies, or some, some newer, more interesting,
[01:00:31] or different, differently interesting.
[01:00:33] Femited movies or whatever.
[01:00:35] I don't know how to, why, why, why do we have to make that?
[01:00:37] Let's not make that a dichotomy.
[01:00:38] Let's not make that a thing.
[01:00:39] The girls versus the guys.
[01:00:41] Yeah, I don't like that at all.
[01:00:42] That's bad.
[01:00:42] But I think I think it's just two totally different realms and eras,
[01:00:47] obviously, of film and film history and stuff.
[01:00:49] So I think no matter what, it'd be fun.
[01:00:51] Yes, absolutely.
[01:00:52] All right.
[01:00:53] So we will see you guys for the poll very, very soon.
[01:00:57] Mike D, where can we find you online this week?
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[01:01:50] Next week, the poll goes live.
[01:01:53] So place your votes and make sure to spread the word and campaign for your favorites.
[01:01:56] We will see if Mike, these agenda to get a dead person on the podcast,
[01:02:00] will pan out.
[01:02:02] It'd be nice to have a definitive set of films.
[01:02:06] No, I totally understand that.
[01:02:10] But I get that and I've thought about that sometimes.
[01:02:13] But at the same time, I've also been like, but I think it's fun when we interrupt a
[01:02:17] season with a different season of the podcast.
[01:02:19] Yeah, that's fun.
[01:02:21] It's just breaking up a little bit.
[01:02:22] I can just see it getting unwieldy.
[01:02:24] You know, I guess out of the three so far, you know, cage,
[01:02:28] yo, and goldbloom are all if cages to be believed during a slowing down tail end.
[01:02:35] I guess maybe not as necessarily yo, but she's kind of
[01:02:37] cashing it on the Oscar buzz and all that stuff.
[01:02:40] But, you know, Jeff Goldblum, I barely make smoothies.
[01:02:43] Exactly.
[01:02:44] They're not all baking as well.
[01:02:46] It wasn't 2023 cages like second busiest year of all time.
[01:02:49] I think it was.
[01:02:50] Yeah.
[01:02:50] So I'm defeating my own point.
[01:02:53] But you get there as that.
[01:02:54] Well, although one of those movies was The Flash and like that barely counts.
[01:02:57] True, not true.
[01:02:58] But luckily, Mike, we won't have to talk about The Flash on the upcoming season of the podcast.
[01:03:04] Bullet dodged.
[01:03:06] So there we go.
[01:03:07] Unless unless there was like a CGI Walter math out in the background somewhere that I didn't
[01:03:10] that I didn't see in Superman.
[01:03:13] I don't know.
[01:03:13] Yeah.
[01:03:13] The CGI Roy Shider from The Punisher just pops up.
[01:03:17] All right.
[01:03:19] So yeah, the poll goes live next week.
[01:03:20] Vote your favorites.
[01:03:21] I remember checking out other podcasts.
[01:03:22] Mike might go to the movies for all kinds of other movie related stuff,
[01:03:25] including recent releases, ranked lists, general discussions and a lot more.
[01:03:28] So thanks so much for listening, guys.
[01:03:29] And remember to go to the polls.
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