This week, Mike and Mike are breaking down everything that happened at this year's Academy Awards! Plus, we throw in a few extra discussions about films like PERFECT DAYS, STEAMBOAT BILL JR., THE SILENT PARTNER, and more!
[00:00:00] Let's get together, talk about the movies that we saw this week. We'll have discussions,
[00:00:05] talk film news, we'll laugh a lot, and act like he's a puzzle, have a guest or two,
[00:00:08] some kind, it's just the two of us. I'll expect some jokes and tell some folks to come along
[00:00:11] and hang with us!
[00:00:12] I can't, I go to the movies, I can't, I go to the movies, yeah!
[00:00:24] It's the annual Mike and Mike Oscars discussion episode, I'm Mike Smith, and join me as always
[00:00:34] as a man who knows in his heart that Nicholas Cage appearing at the Oscars was thanks in part
[00:00:39] to our efforts.
[00:00:40] Mike, appreciate it.
[00:00:41] Had you name Mike?
[00:00:42] I'm doing great, I think I almost direct-quote texted you that during the ceremony.
[00:00:49] We made this happen.
[00:00:50] Yeah, I definitely had that thought when Nicholas Cage first appeared and then you texted
[00:00:55] me and yes it seemed like a confirmation that yes indeed if we didn't do the, if we didn't
[00:00:59] watch the complete works nine years ago on what the film's of Nicholas Cage.
[00:01:03] I don't think he'd be standing there on that stage all day, the other night, you know?
[00:01:06] I think so, I think that's really, so your walk up everybody.
[00:01:10] Yes, how are you doing today Mike?
[00:01:11] What's been going on?
[00:01:12] Not a whole lot, living the hell-divers to life still, so thank God we're mostly discussing
[00:01:19] the Oscars because I have barely anything else to talk about.
[00:01:21] Right.
[00:01:22] Right.
[00:01:23] Managed democracy must be spread and so that's what I've been doing most of my life.
[00:01:27] Sure, I still have yet to play hell-divers too.
[00:01:30] I'm sure it's a good time.
[00:01:31] It's great, great time.
[00:01:32] What are you been up to, Mike?
[00:01:33] Yeah, not too much.
[00:01:35] I went to go see Oppenheimer again this weekend, the Roxy, the Indian 300 Measants in
[00:01:38] the little Montana where I also work.
[00:01:40] I brought it back on 35 millimeter kind of anticipation because we all kind of were
[00:01:43] like it's going to win best picture.
[00:01:45] Yeah, come on.
[00:01:46] So we brought it back on 35.
[00:01:48] I went to go see it and yeah, I think really underrated it the first time it came out.
[00:01:52] I really enjoyed it.
[00:01:53] I saw it in IMAX then but did not get to see it on 35.
[00:01:57] And yeah, the film print was beautiful and yeah, I was really kind of taken in by the editing
[00:02:01] and the score and how they all kind of come together and create this movie.
[00:02:05] And yeah, it rules.
[00:02:06] I'm actually pretty glad at one best picture.
[00:02:08] I was never going to begrudge you winning best picture.
[00:02:10] I was like, yeah, this is a good movie.
[00:02:11] I'm happy with this.
[00:02:12] Yeah.
[00:02:13] That's fine.
[00:02:14] But yeah, it is a stronger best picture winner than I had previously thought.
[00:02:19] So happy with that.
[00:02:21] And then of course we have the Oscars on Sunday and I went to watch them at the Roxy.
[00:02:26] The Indian Theatre in my house in New Zealand, Montana where I also work.
[00:02:28] Yeah, there's like a whole thing you guys do there.
[00:02:31] Yeah, so every year the Roxy we do an Oscars viewing party which is free to attend.
[00:02:36] We can't really legally call it an Oscars viewing party.
[00:02:38] It's Hollywood's biggest night.
[00:02:40] Right.
[00:02:41] Like the Super Bowl rules basically.
[00:02:43] And so yeah, I have gone there every year since 2018 or every year that it's been happening
[00:02:49] because in the year 2021 it didn't happen for obvious reasons.
[00:02:53] Those reasons being co-faceted.
[00:02:55] What was going on?
[00:02:56] Yeah.
[00:02:57] And so yeah, I've been going since I moved to Missoula.
[00:03:01] It's always a super fun time and it's only grown in that time like more and more people
[00:03:05] kind of know about it and find out about it and stuff.
[00:03:08] And this year the tickets were sold out weeks and advance.
[00:03:12] And then part of that is because the Roxy had a very specific connection to the Oscars
[00:03:16] this year, which is that Lily Gladstone who was nominated for Best Actress for Killers
[00:03:22] in the Flower Moon.
[00:03:23] I'm not sure if I've mentioned this in the podcast before I must have at some point right?
[00:03:26] It's only every time we talk about the fact that she's nominated for the Oscar.
[00:03:31] Fair enough.
[00:03:32] Yeah, Lily Gladstone nominated for Best Actress used to work at the Roxy.
[00:03:37] That's right.
[00:03:38] Yeah, it's from Montana, went to the University of Montana and worked at the Roxy about 10 years
[00:03:43] ago.
[00:03:44] And then left I think, I think she left the Roxy to make certain women like she got cast
[00:03:50] in certain women and that's when she left the theater.
[00:03:52] I might have the timeline a little bit wrong on that but it's like it's right around there
[00:03:56] that she left.
[00:03:57] There are people on staff that I work with now who still know Lily.
[00:04:00] I met Lily two years ago at the Montana Film Festival which was really cool.
[00:04:05] But yeah, people who still know her, still talk to her, still text her.
[00:04:09] I was talking to one of the co-workers Ken who was like, yeah, if you look through my
[00:04:13] text history with Lily Gladstone it's just really boring because it's just us talking
[00:04:16] about the film camps that the Roxy is putting on.
[00:04:20] Amazing.
[00:04:21] Like, I took over a job and I was like, well, I got to, you know, just, I have to get all
[00:04:24] the details from you.
[00:04:25] Like, do you have this person's email?
[00:04:27] Right.
[00:04:28] Just work stuff.
[00:04:29] Yeah, exactly, which is kind of funny but yeah.
[00:04:32] So obviously the Oscars viewing party at the Roxy was like very abuzz for that reason because
[00:04:38] we're all very excited that little Gladstone was getting recognized that she was nominated
[00:04:42] and it really seemed like she could win.
[00:04:45] That was the thing.
[00:04:46] That was the thing.
[00:04:47] That was the thing.
[00:04:48] I mean, it was a weird like all the other acting categories felt pretty predetermined,
[00:04:52] right?
[00:04:53] It was, you know, Killian Murphy was going to win for Oppenheimer.
[00:04:55] Robbie Dungeon here was going to win.
[00:04:56] David Javine-Jar Randolph was also going to win for the holdover.
[00:04:58] It's like those, like just based on the previous 80 award shows that lead up to the Oscars.
[00:05:03] Yeah.
[00:05:04] That felt about right.
[00:05:06] But best actress was kind of up in the air because the little Gladstone won about half
[00:05:10] of the awards leading up to it and Emma Stone won the other half.
[00:05:13] And everybody, most people I think were kind of leaning towards the little Gladstone
[00:05:18] partially for the historic nature of her win.
[00:05:20] She was the first Native American person to be nominated in the category.
[00:05:24] And so that would have been kind of a big thing.
[00:05:26] But yeah, unfortunately she did not win.
[00:05:28] And watching that at the, the Roxy was quite an experience.
[00:05:32] I can't imagine.
[00:05:33] I mean, like watching it at home just alone was deflating.
[00:05:36] So like I can't imagine like the hometown hero.
[00:05:41] Not winning.
[00:05:42] Yeah.
[00:05:43] It was a, I mean, the event itself which we had of the Roxy was awesome.
[00:05:46] Credit to Fergie for putting that on but it was, you know, there was food.
[00:05:50] There was a lot of people were dressed up but there was trivia.
[00:05:52] I'll have our Oscar ballots that went in there which I came in.
[00:05:56] I tied for like third place in our staff Oscar ballot.
[00:05:59] I couldn't win like, I wasn't allowed to compete in the actual like among the, among
[00:06:03] the plebians of Jim pop.
[00:06:07] I tied for a third place in a staff Oscar ballot but I was at a different Oscar ballot
[00:06:11] with Nick, if you can guess the show, he kind of created the spreadsheet with him and
[00:06:16] a few friends and me and him tied for first place.
[00:06:19] Nice.
[00:06:20] So I'm happy about that at least.
[00:06:21] But yeah, we asked about us.
[00:06:23] We had trivia, we had food.
[00:06:24] We had all this kind of stuff that was happening and we had like archways that were like
[00:06:28] donated lilies like four Lily Gladstone and all that stuff.
[00:06:32] And you know, there was, we're hyping about it throughout the night and all of us felt
[00:06:35] pretty confident going in.
[00:06:36] Lily Gladstone is going to win.
[00:06:37] Like we felt pretty good about it.
[00:06:39] I think most people did.
[00:06:40] Yeah, I think so.
[00:06:41] I think she was like kind of even though it was very, very close like, you know, throughout
[00:06:45] the whole race.
[00:06:47] She seemed like the favorite to win.
[00:06:49] Instead it was the person who was in the favorite.
[00:06:51] Emma.
[00:06:52] Oh, but yeah, no, and when it got to the best actress category which is at the very end
[00:06:58] of the night right before best picture, the you know, we there was cameras set up in
[00:07:02] the theater to try to capture the moment like the people's reaction like when Lily won
[00:07:07] or even if she lost like they're, you know, there's be some kind of reaction.
[00:07:10] The local news came by to get people's reactions and stuff.
[00:07:14] And then the moments it was announced like people were hyped the entire time.
[00:07:18] Like there's they did a whole thing where like five actors came out to introduce each
[00:07:22] nominee and like, you know, once they got to Lily, like people were going, yeah, it was
[00:07:25] very exciting.
[00:07:27] And then just crickets like I see as soon as Michelle you announced the Emma Stone one best
[00:07:32] actress, the entire theater just fell silent.
[00:07:34] Wow.
[00:07:35] It was I have seen that reaction once before watching the Oscars at the Roxy and it's
[00:07:40] the in it when Green Book One Best Picture was a remember that happened.
[00:07:45] Yeah, that's.
[00:07:46] Wow.
[00:07:47] Wow.
[00:07:48] That was definitely a flood.
[00:07:50] Yeah, so it was a super fun night and it was a little bit deflating for that reason.
[00:07:55] Otherwise I thought the ceremony was pretty good.
[00:07:57] I had a good time otherwise with the show.
[00:08:00] But yeah, I mean, Mike, you still haven't watched the Killers yet, have you?
[00:08:02] I have.
[00:08:03] Yeah, I did.
[00:08:04] Oh, you did.
[00:08:05] Okay.
[00:08:06] Yes.
[00:08:07] Yeah, I mean, it was in my top 10.
[00:08:08] Oh, okay.
[00:08:09] Yeah.
[00:08:10] For I think I'm complaining with the Irishman in my mind.
[00:08:11] You still watch that watch.
[00:08:12] The other three and a half hour Marns, Crozazia.
[00:08:13] Yes.
[00:08:14] Correct.
[00:08:15] I'll get there one day.
[00:08:16] Yeah, I mean, so you've seen killers have you seen port things yet?
[00:08:18] So curiosity.
[00:08:19] I have not.
[00:08:20] I haven't seen, well, I guess let's maybe list the best pictures for me because I don't
[00:08:25] know all of them off the top of my head, but I have not seen most of them.
[00:08:28] Okay.
[00:08:29] So the movie is nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars.
[00:08:31] Oppenheimer, which one you saw that?
[00:08:32] I saw that American fiction.
[00:08:34] Not did not see that.
[00:08:35] Okay.
[00:08:36] An anime of a fall.
[00:08:37] Did not see that didn't finish that unfortunately.
[00:08:38] That was having technical difficulties.
[00:08:40] And then I was just like, fuck this man.
[00:08:42] I think I've already talked about that where I was like, I'm just going to watch.
[00:08:45] I want to watch Barry Lyndon.
[00:08:47] It was like another three hour movie.
[00:08:48] Like, every movie I was going to watch that day ended up being like two and a half plus
[00:08:52] hours.
[00:08:53] Right.
[00:08:54] And I think that was what I just settled on watching killers of the flower moon.
[00:08:57] Yeah.
[00:08:58] I'm going to do it.
[00:08:59] I might as well get this out of the way now.
[00:09:01] Yeah.
[00:09:02] I recommend that anime of fall.
[00:09:03] I think you would really love it.
[00:09:04] Yeah.
[00:09:05] I mean, the first, I think it was like 45 minutes.
[00:09:06] I was like really into it.
[00:09:07] So definitely just haven't gotten back at round to it.
[00:09:09] But that might have been like my pick, you know?
[00:09:11] Okay.
[00:09:12] If you had finished it.
[00:09:13] If I had seen it, yeah.
[00:09:14] Yeah.
[00:09:15] I mean, I think it was like the time or American fiction anime of fall Barbie you've seen,
[00:09:18] right?
[00:09:19] Did see that.
[00:09:20] Yes.
[00:09:21] Okay.
[00:09:22] The holdovers you've seen.
[00:09:23] That was going to be one.
[00:09:24] That was number one.
[00:09:25] Yeah.
[00:09:26] Killers of the flower moon you've seen.
[00:09:27] Um, my strobe.
[00:09:28] Just zero interest.
[00:09:29] Doesn't give the needle at all for me.
[00:09:30] But I haven't, I've not seen it enough.
[00:09:31] Fair enough.
[00:09:32] Pass lives.
[00:09:33] Have not seen it.
[00:09:34] But I'm sure I would have loved it.
[00:09:35] I'm sure I would have been like, I love your story of that random woman next to you just
[00:09:39] making it barely making it to the credits before a complete breakdown.
[00:09:42] Yes.
[00:09:43] That was pretty fantastic.
[00:09:44] Yeah.
[00:09:45] Pass lives my number one of the year and then there was poor things which you haven't seen
[00:09:48] and the zone of interest, which I assume you haven't seen yet, right?
[00:09:50] I have not.
[00:09:51] No.
[00:09:52] Okay.
[00:09:53] So you've seen Oppenheimer, Barbie, holdovers, killers.
[00:09:54] He saw four out of ten.
[00:09:55] That's not bad.
[00:09:56] That's better than I do most years.
[00:09:58] Yeah.
[00:09:59] That's better than I think most people do in general, right?
[00:10:02] It's, I've seen ten out of ten and I think of the best picture winners.
[00:10:06] Like, I think this is a really strong, it was a really strong year for film in general and
[00:10:10] I think this is a really strong lineup.
[00:10:11] Like, I think there's none of these movies are movies that I will consider bad, you know,
[00:10:16] which for the Oscars it's pretty good.
[00:10:18] That's pretty good.
[00:10:19] That's pretty solid.
[00:10:20] Ten out of ten, impossible.
[00:10:21] Yeah, impossible but I think eight out of the ten I think are movies that I think
[00:10:25] are very, very, very good to great and then the other two which we might throw in American
[00:10:30] fiction, I think are pretty good, solid.
[00:10:32] They're fun.
[00:10:33] I did not dislike my time watching either one of them, you know?
[00:10:38] Okay.
[00:10:39] I like it.
[00:10:40] Yeah.
[00:10:41] I do think, you know, like I said, I saw Oppenheimer again on 35 millimeter underrated
[00:10:45] it when I first came out and I think it winning best picture.
[00:10:48] It just, I mean, it makes sense.
[00:10:49] It was kind of a foregone conclusion, you know, like months ago everyone's like, yeah,
[00:10:53] it's going to be Oppenheimer.
[00:10:54] Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:55] And it just kind of like, it felt like a culmination of things coming together like, you
[00:10:59] know, it is Christopher Nolan.
[00:11:01] It's sort of like his time kind of thing where it's like, yes, he's been making great movies
[00:11:06] for 25 years.
[00:11:07] It's time to give Christopher Nolan the best director and best picture.
[00:11:09] It was also, you know, a historical biopic.
[00:11:12] It's also a movie that was a huge hit.
[00:11:14] Yeah.
[00:11:15] And that's something that the Oscars don't often get to reward anymore.
[00:11:18] And so with all of those things kind of combining, it makes sense.
[00:11:21] Oppenheimer.
[00:11:22] It's best picture.
[00:11:23] Sure.
[00:11:24] What do you need to run, Matt?
[00:11:25] Yeah.
[00:11:26] Yeah, I thought it was really good.
[00:11:28] Just back to the ceremony in general.
[00:11:30] I thought it was pretty solid.
[00:11:32] You know, the Oscars as we chart every year that we've done this episode.
[00:11:36] I don't really care anymore.
[00:11:38] You know, like, what's, I used to be super into it.
[00:11:41] I used to stay up late.
[00:11:42] That was like the night, you know, you could stay up late because they just, especially
[00:11:45] they moved them up an hour.
[00:11:46] I think this year, right?
[00:11:47] So yes.
[00:11:48] He's just in around midnight on the East Coast and stuff.
[00:11:50] Right.
[00:11:51] That's one of the nice things about being a Montana now is that the Oscars started at
[00:11:54] five o'clock.
[00:11:55] I was wild.
[00:11:56] I was out of there by 830.
[00:11:58] That's awesome.
[00:11:59] And it was a big thing and I was super into it.
[00:12:01] And then I would see a lot of the movies because of course the category was smaller.
[00:12:05] Sure.
[00:12:06] Back then, best picture used to be five movies.
[00:12:08] Yeah.
[00:12:09] And then when I was in college, I kind of just, it was like, kind of just lost interest
[00:12:13] into a little bit and that was just like whatever.
[00:12:14] I can't keep up.
[00:12:15] I've seen two of these 10 movies or whatever usually.
[00:12:20] So whatever happens happens.
[00:12:22] But yeah, it was pretty, this year I think was pretty fun.
[00:12:26] The previous, the previous winners thing presenting was weird.
[00:12:31] Normally it's the people from the year before for the actor, character, character, character
[00:12:34] characters.
[00:12:35] All included, Michelle Yo and Jamie Klahn and Jamie Lee Curtis and all that.
[00:12:38] Yeah, they were all there.
[00:12:39] Yeah, they had done this once before.
[00:12:41] It was like in 2009 or something like that.
[00:12:43] I remember it.
[00:12:44] Yeah, where they had like five people come out and present, like kind of introduce each
[00:12:48] nominee in the category before announcing the winner, right?
[00:12:52] Yeah.
[00:12:53] And I kind of like that idea.
[00:12:54] I don't know.
[00:12:55] It's a good look back through film and Oscar history with some people who've won in
[00:12:59] the past and all that kind of stuff which is nice.
[00:13:02] I do think it felt, I also wanted to see the clips.
[00:13:05] That's the thing.
[00:13:06] I want to see the clips.
[00:13:07] If they could do that and then also do the clips, like run them all down again and just show
[00:13:10] me the clips again.
[00:13:11] Great.
[00:13:12] That would be fine.
[00:13:13] I think it was just weird.
[00:13:17] Like some of it was very fun.
[00:13:18] Like in particular, you know, like Jamie Lee Curtis is like clearly also good friends with
[00:13:22] Jodie Foster.
[00:13:23] So like her, that thing was cool.
[00:13:25] Nick Cage and Paul G. Emanuee, that was fun.
[00:13:27] Yes.
[00:13:28] But like just some of them like Jennifer Lawrence, just like clearly was just I'm going
[00:13:32] to read the teleprompter and get off this state.
[00:13:34] Like just some of the people were so impersonal and like Ben King's Lee's also was like that
[00:13:39] too.
[00:13:40] So it's just weird.
[00:13:41] I don't know.
[00:13:42] It's like a weird mix of like the ones that you could tell had a relationship with the
[00:13:45] person they were talking to.
[00:13:46] We're fun and exciting and cool.
[00:13:48] Yeah.
[00:13:49] And the other ones that is clearly just like, I am here.
[00:13:52] Yeah.
[00:13:53] And I think in some cases, I mean, the League of Lads don't as a relatively new actress who
[00:13:56] is.
[00:13:57] Right.
[00:13:58] It's tougher to have like a past winner who has that connection to our guests which I
[00:14:01] think Jennifer Lawrence is the one who introduced things to the League of Lads don't right.
[00:14:05] And then yeah, it's like Michelle, yo introduce Sandra Hewler and you know, she did great.
[00:14:08] I think she, it seems kind of personal from Michelle, yo but also like I doubt they
[00:14:13] have much of a relationship.
[00:14:14] Right.
[00:14:15] Yeah.
[00:14:16] Like that kind of thing.
[00:14:17] But if anyone's going to sell it, it's going to be Michelle, yo.
[00:14:19] Exactly.
[00:14:20] Yeah.
[00:14:21] I think one of my favorites, I love the Cage and Paul G. Emanuee which was great.
[00:14:24] And I went through, as they must have been in a movie together at some point, right?
[00:14:27] Like I looked through it and I was like, if anybody would know, it's us.
[00:14:30] Yeah.
[00:14:31] And they were in one movie together, Mike.
[00:14:34] And I'm going to put it on you to try to figure out what movie that is.
[00:14:37] Kiss of death.
[00:14:38] What was that movie?
[00:14:39] It was not Kiss of Death.
[00:14:40] Oh, I'll be hilarious if you want.
[00:14:43] Oh man.
[00:14:45] You're never going to guess it.
[00:14:46] I'm never going to guess it.
[00:14:48] Is it a VOD arrow one?
[00:14:49] It is not a VOD error cage.
[00:14:51] This movie did come out in theaters.
[00:14:53] Well, pay the ghost.
[00:14:54] No, that's a VOD cage.
[00:14:55] Is it Axeman?
[00:14:56] I thought that was right on the cusp.
[00:14:58] I can't remember.
[00:14:59] I paid the ghost was 2015, I think.
[00:15:01] What?
[00:15:02] It's firmly in the theater.
[00:15:03] You have 100 movies after that.
[00:15:05] That's insane.
[00:15:06] No, the movie that Nick Cage and Paul G. Amadi are both in is The Ant-Bully.
[00:15:10] Oh my fucking god.
[00:15:12] Where I think Paul G. Amadi plays like the guy who's trying to exterminate the ants, I think
[00:15:15] in that movie.
[00:15:16] I couldn't even tell you.
[00:15:17] The ants bite his dick.
[00:15:18] Do you remember this?
[00:15:19] Not even a second.
[00:15:21] That was like my most liked review on Letterbox for years.
[00:15:24] So every time I went to my profile, I was like, oh, yep.
[00:15:28] There's me talking about Paul G. Amadi's dick.
[00:15:30] Classic.
[00:15:31] Yeah, so that's one of those things where it's like, okay, they probably never actually
[00:15:34] worked together on a movie before.
[00:15:36] They should.
[00:15:37] Nick Cage and Paul G. Amadi dream team.
[00:15:38] 100%.
[00:15:39] That'd be incredible.
[00:15:40] But yeah, I thought that was really fun.
[00:15:42] And yeah, I think there was a lot of really fun moments like that.
[00:15:44] I do think, so Jimmy Kimmel was the host again.
[00:15:47] And man, Jimmy Kimmel has to stop hosting this thing.
[00:15:49] He's just like, top fine.
[00:15:51] Yeah, that's the thing.
[00:15:53] It's serviceable.
[00:15:54] That's the thing.
[00:15:55] I think they had a few years there where they had a couple of rough hosts.
[00:15:58] They had some bad hosts.
[00:15:59] And then they had a few years where there was no host when they were like, you know, nobody
[00:16:03] wants to host this thing.
[00:16:04] We're just going to make it without a host.
[00:16:06] So I think Jimmy Kimmel is preferable to nothing like to nobody being there.
[00:16:11] Yeah, he's a step above nothing and halfway and James Franco.
[00:16:16] Yeah.
[00:16:17] Remember that?
[00:16:18] Yeah, I do.
[00:16:19] That was a rough time.
[00:16:20] I think that was around where I was like, I don't like this anymore.
[00:16:24] I'm done with this now.
[00:16:27] Yeah.
[00:16:28] I'm about to be on the D to watch the Oscar.
[00:16:31] Yeah.
[00:16:32] But yeah, I don't know.
[00:16:33] They've had a few rough hosts in the past and Jimmy Kimmel is fine.
[00:16:38] But it is just like, every joke is like, oh, yeah, the movie is there too long this year
[00:16:42] am I right?
[00:16:43] Yeah.
[00:16:44] It's like movies, am I right?
[00:16:45] Yeah, movies are too long.
[00:16:46] Kids animated movies for kids.
[00:16:48] Like that kind of thing.
[00:16:49] It's just like, yeah, come on.
[00:16:50] I don't know.
[00:16:51] And there was a moment in the show where John Mulaney came out to present and did like a
[00:16:55] minute and a half on field of dreams and crushed.
[00:16:58] And it was so good.
[00:16:59] And I have to imagine they have him waiting to host, right?
[00:17:03] They haven't had a way to get in the way.
[00:17:04] Right?
[00:17:05] He hosted the governor's ball awards like two months ago or something which is like an
[00:17:09] Oscar's lead up kind of thing.
[00:17:12] And yeah, he did great there too.
[00:17:13] I watched some clips of that and it was really good.
[00:17:15] So yeah, hopefully Mulaney next year.
[00:17:17] That'd be nice.
[00:17:18] That'd be cool.
[00:17:19] I did appreciate the pro-labor pro-union moment at the end of the opening model.
[00:17:25] Yeah, where they brought them all the other people that refused to cross the pickup line
[00:17:33] to uphold the SAG and WGA strikes.
[00:17:36] So that was good.
[00:17:37] But yeah, otherwise, yeah, Kimmel's just like he's like guy.
[00:17:39] He's a guy.
[00:17:40] He's a late night guy.
[00:17:41] Yeah, sure.
[00:17:42] Be a host.
[00:17:43] Yeah, it does good enough but we can do better.
[00:17:47] We can bring back to Golden Age.
[00:17:48] We can bring back Hugh Jackman.
[00:17:50] That's my, man.
[00:17:51] You're that Hugh Jackman opening number man.
[00:17:53] I gave Billy Cresslow back out there.
[00:17:55] Get him back.
[00:17:56] He's still alive?
[00:17:57] Yeah, I feel like Chris will still alive.
[00:17:58] You never know with those guys.
[00:18:00] Yeah, I remember Billy Cresslow hosted I think in 2011 that was the last time he hosted.
[00:18:05] He hosted like eight or nine times.
[00:18:06] I was like a bunch.
[00:18:07] A bunch of times.
[00:18:08] And that was like doing an after a very long gap.
[00:18:11] Like I think the previous year that he had hosted was like 2003 or 2004.
[00:18:15] So I remember he hosted the year that Lord of the Rings turned to the King one.
[00:18:18] Right.
[00:18:19] Because that was I believe my first Oscars.
[00:18:21] That was the first one that I watched.
[00:18:23] And so yeah, I don't think I got to watch the whole thing.
[00:18:25] I think because I was 10 years old and my mom made me go to bed at a certain point.
[00:18:30] But I remember that being the one that Lord of the Rings won best picture.
[00:18:33] And Billy Cresslow was a host then.
[00:18:34] And then he hosted again in 2011 which was the year the artist won best picture.
[00:18:38] And I remember thinking like man, Crystal doesn't have any more for this.
[00:18:41] I just felt it just felt very like old and hacky to me.
[00:18:45] But back in the 90s, there's good stuff.
[00:18:47] Good stuff, baby.
[00:18:49] So yeah, I would like to see Mulaney host.
[00:18:52] I think he'd be my dream.
[00:18:54] He's also somebody who just seems like he's really into movies.
[00:18:56] True.
[00:18:57] Which helps you know, you know, that's been in a half on field of dreams.
[00:19:00] Exactly.
[00:19:01] Yeah.
[00:19:02] Yeah.
[00:19:03] So there was that.
[00:19:04] And then other just presenter bits.
[00:19:05] I do want to mention the complete works all three previous seasons of the complete works
[00:19:10] were represented in some capacity.
[00:19:11] We did get name drops.
[00:19:12] You're right.
[00:19:13] Yes.
[00:19:14] Yeah.
[00:19:15] Specifically said the complete works on.
[00:19:16] No, oh, in the word works.
[00:19:19] So Nicholas Cage was up there as part of the five best actor winners who were introducing
[00:19:23] Paul Giamatti, which that just seems like a crazy like surreal thing in and of itself.
[00:19:27] Right?
[00:19:28] Like you know somebody who really like fell from stardom like I don't think he was he
[00:19:32] at the Oscars in the last couple years like maybe presenting or something.
[00:19:34] I feel like he don't I don't remember.
[00:19:36] I don't think so.
[00:19:37] I remember when pig came out we were like he's got to get that Oscar nomination.
[00:19:41] He's got a win.
[00:19:42] And then he didn't get dominated.
[00:19:43] We were very furious.
[00:19:44] Exactly.
[00:19:45] But it was cool to see him like kind of back on the Oscars age and sort of like re embraced
[00:19:49] by Hollywood in a way.
[00:19:52] But then also yeah Michelle was there, which we knew she would be there.
[00:19:54] Right?
[00:19:55] Like she was announcing best actress and she gets introduced Sandra Heeler.
[00:19:59] But then also Jeff Goldman got name dropped.
[00:20:01] Yeah.
[00:20:02] In a very funny bit.
[00:20:03] I thought between Kate McKinnon and America Ferreira where Kate McKinnon is like is
[00:20:08] like, oh, but Jeff Goldman's real right?
[00:20:10] And look no.
[00:20:11] Yeah.
[00:20:12] No, Jeff Goldman's not real.
[00:20:13] And then she has this line like, then to whom have I been sending my tasteful needs?
[00:20:18] Steven's feel cut to Steven Spielberg.
[00:20:21] Yes.
[00:20:22] Cut to Steven Spielberg in the audience point of it himself, which was very funny.
[00:20:25] Yeah.
[00:20:26] Also, I like that she called him Dr. Spielberg.
[00:20:29] Yeah.
[00:20:30] That was a Spielberg sir.
[00:20:31] Is this true?
[00:20:32] Yeah.
[00:20:33] That was fun.
[00:20:34] What else?
[00:20:35] What other stuff?
[00:20:36] I thought the remember when Robert Downey Jr. used to do cocaine joke was real bad.
[00:20:41] It was weird.
[00:20:42] That was weird.
[00:20:43] Yeah.
[00:20:44] A little odd.
[00:20:45] Yeah.
[00:20:46] But otherwise, yeah, it was mostly pretty fine.
[00:20:47] There was no controversial things I don't think.
[00:20:49] No, yeah, for the most part.
[00:20:51] I know there was a couple of people kind of misreading.
[00:20:54] Like maybe misreading Jonathan Glazer's acceptance speech for the zone of interest.
[00:20:57] Oh, baby.
[00:20:58] We don't have time.
[00:20:59] That's a whole other podcast.
[00:21:00] Yeah, that's a whole other podcast but there was some controversy around that.
[00:21:03] Yeah.
[00:21:04] For some reason they just what if we just forget the back half of the sentence and just
[00:21:07] cut it off?
[00:21:08] Right.
[00:21:10] In the middle before he makes his point.
[00:21:12] And yes, that was some bullshit.
[00:21:14] And like a variety even published it that way.
[00:21:16] It was so weird.
[00:21:17] It was such a willful misrepresentation of what he was saying.
[00:21:22] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:21:23] But I did think, you know, I mean, zone of interest won an international feature which
[00:21:26] is a very good movie and made sense.
[00:21:28] It was the only one nominated also for best picture.
[00:21:30] Right.
[00:21:31] But zone of interest also won best sound which I was surprised by not because I don't think
[00:21:36] it deserves it.
[00:21:37] But it's a much more subtle sound design than I thought the Oscars were going to like
[00:21:42] really kind of recognize.
[00:21:43] It's like, I had Oppenheimer for sure.
[00:21:44] That was like, yep, checking that one off.
[00:21:46] That felt like an easy one and yeah, no, zone of interest took that which was great.
[00:21:50] I know a lot of times I haven't seen it but I know a lot of times in those more technical
[00:21:54] awards because the entire Academy votes right?
[00:21:57] It's like, yeah, the one with the most sound or the most costume or whatever, you know,
[00:22:02] whatever usually wins.
[00:22:04] So it's interesting that it's like actually like a, from what I've heard, like a really
[00:22:10] artistic representation one.
[00:22:13] Yeah.
[00:22:14] I mean, the sound and zone of interest, like the sound makes the movie in zone of interest.
[00:22:17] That's a thing.
[00:22:18] It's a really incredible thing where you haven't seen it yet.
[00:22:21] But yeah, obviously the plot of zone of interest such as it is that you're watching Rudolph
[00:22:26] House who is the, you know, common-dont of Auschwitz and his wife and their, and his family.
[00:22:33] And they're just like living next to Auschwitz.
[00:22:35] And you're just watching their lives for the most part as they live next to Auschwitz.
[00:22:39] And they're kind of going about their normal day.
[00:22:42] And this sound does this thing where like it there's very, very soft subtle, you know, horrific
[00:22:47] things happening in the background.
[00:22:49] You hear through the soundscape.
[00:22:50] You hear like screaming in the background, like in a very, very distant thing.
[00:22:54] Right.
[00:22:55] And you were like, if you weren't paying attention, you might not hear it.
[00:22:58] Which that's kind of the idea of the movie, you know?
[00:23:00] That's the part of it.
[00:23:02] And so yeah, it's for that thing about hashtag themes and hashtag analysis and hashtag aesthetics
[00:23:07] in my movie.
[00:23:09] Correct, Mike.
[00:23:10] Correct.
[00:23:11] Wow.
[00:23:12] Crazy to think about.
[00:23:13] But yeah, so for zone of interest, the wind sound was a pretty good wind.
[00:23:17] I was pretty excited about that.
[00:23:19] And yeah, that was one that I did not get.
[00:23:20] I also did not get the reason I did not win my Oscar ballot is because for production
[00:23:25] design and makeup and hair styling and costume design, I was like, ah, this is Barbie all
[00:23:31] the way.
[00:23:32] Barbie's got these.
[00:23:33] Yeah.
[00:23:34] And it ended up being poor things.
[00:23:35] Poor things ended up taking those.
[00:23:36] Which is wild.
[00:23:37] I mean, I haven't seen poor things so I don't know, but like the production design and all
[00:23:40] that stuff of Barbie is like doing so much heavy lifting for the themes and yeah,
[00:23:44] and aesthetic in that movie.
[00:23:46] But I guess also for maybe for poor things too.
[00:23:48] I mean, yeah, both are equally deserving.
[00:23:51] It makes sense.
[00:23:52] I mean, if I had my way, Astrid City, he'd walk away with that Oscar.
[00:23:55] Which is insane that it's not even anywhere around here.
[00:23:58] I don't want to talk about what Sanders said, winning the best short, right?
[00:24:04] Or whatever.
[00:24:05] Yeah, so he won the Best Live Action Short for the wonderful story of Henry Sugar, which
[00:24:08] was the first of the four role doll shorts that he made for Netflix.
[00:24:12] Right.
[00:24:13] Right.
[00:24:14] And so yeah, when Sanders won his first Oscar for this short film, was not there to accept
[00:24:17] it because he is about to start shooting his next movie.
[00:24:20] He's like overseas about to shoot the Phoenician scheme, which is a perfectly Wes Anderson title.
[00:24:27] And Jeff Goldblum's in it.
[00:24:28] So we'll talk about it one day.
[00:24:29] Can't wait.
[00:24:30] But yeah, I just was, I forget I probably saw it on a tweet or a podcast or something,
[00:24:34] but just the idea of like being a short filmmaker and you bust your ass and you finally get nominated
[00:24:42] for an Oscar for your be recognized.
[00:24:44] And then also Wes Anderson is nominated for his short film.
[00:24:47] Yeah, just get hang it up at that point.
[00:24:50] Like, I mean, that is the thing.
[00:24:53] And so here's the other thing about that.
[00:24:55] So it won the live action short film category and when they put out these shorts, I was wondering
[00:25:01] why it wasn't in anthology film or why it wasn't in like a collection of shorts that
[00:25:04] you can easily access some Netflix.
[00:25:06] Like if you go to one of the shorts, you can't access the other three shorts until you actually
[00:25:11] go into the search bar and look up like it's not like, you know, I was expecting like a
[00:25:15] TV season.
[00:25:16] Like you had the four episodes in a row or whatever right?
[00:25:18] And they didn't do that.
[00:25:19] You have to have all the individual shorts.
[00:25:21] And Wes Anderson, I think originally announced it as an anthology film and I believe Netflix
[00:25:25] split it up into four shorts specifically, I think so that they could enter it into the
[00:25:30] live action short film category really.
[00:25:32] And then yesterday either yesterday or today this like just happened right after they
[00:25:37] won the Oscar.
[00:25:38] Netflix now is that they're going to be re-releasing the wonderful story of Henry Sugar shorts
[00:25:43] as the anthology film on Netflix.
[00:25:46] What?
[00:25:47] They're just like a little JK.
[00:25:49] Yeah, that's crazy.
[00:25:52] That's so funny.
[00:25:53] And I think what happened is that a few years ago, they commissioned the Coen Brothers
[00:25:57] to make like in a series of shorts that became the ballot of Buster's drugs, became one
[00:26:03] movie.
[00:26:04] And I think their goal green lighting that originally was like, oh, hey, we're gonna get
[00:26:07] that live action short film.
[00:26:08] Yeah, locked.
[00:26:09] The Coen Brothers.
[00:26:10] We got to come and lock it in, of course.
[00:26:11] And instead they did that with Wes Anderson.
[00:26:13] They had an anthology film that turned into shorts and now it's back into an anthology
[00:26:17] film.
[00:26:18] Wild.
[00:26:19] That's fascinating.
[00:26:20] So there's some fraud going on here is what I'm saying but happy for us, Anderson, it
[00:26:24] is a really good short.
[00:26:25] It's very good.
[00:26:26] So what I've heard.
[00:26:27] Yeah, you haven't seen it yet.
[00:26:29] Yeah, so I haven't watched them.
[00:26:30] Yeah, you should.
[00:26:31] It's good.
[00:26:32] Now that it's an anthology film, they're easier to access on that.
[00:26:34] Exactly.
[00:26:35] I mean, you know, I've got a lot of opinions of Netflix that put stop to me from watching
[00:26:39] them.
[00:26:40] Yeah, other stuff about the ceremony.
[00:26:42] The millennia bit was very good.
[00:26:44] The John Cena bit.
[00:26:45] I also really enjoyed it.
[00:26:46] Oh yeah, that was good.
[00:26:47] That was very funny where you came out naked and then I'm just Ken brought the house
[00:26:50] down at the good stuff.
[00:26:52] I mean, watching with the crowd was fantastic.
[00:26:55] Watching it in the theater and people were going nuts for it.
[00:26:57] The moment slash comes out like people aren't like what is the slash.
[00:27:00] Yeah, it was fun.
[00:27:02] Yeah, and it was just like pure joy.
[00:27:05] Irmited me of the Oscars performance of everything is awesome from the Lego movie like
[00:27:09] 10 years ago.
[00:27:10] Just one of my favorite Oscars moments.
[00:27:12] And yeah, Ryan Gosling crushed it and I liked that they had all the other Ken's from
[00:27:15] the movie come out.
[00:27:16] It's a movie was there in King's Minute Ear.
[00:27:19] And it was super fun.
[00:27:20] I like when Ryan Gosling went on to the audience and Greta Gerwig was singing along and
[00:27:23] all that.
[00:27:24] It was great.
[00:27:25] Fun time.
[00:27:26] Yeah.
[00:27:27] Yeah.
[00:27:28] And the gentleman prefer blonde thing going on.
[00:27:29] That was fun.
[00:27:30] I was like the Barbie faces in the things that he's in the pink all pink in the
[00:27:35] manoeuvre like co-taile tuxedo stuff.
[00:27:37] And it's like this is fun.
[00:27:38] I like it.
[00:27:39] I forget what I was going to say, but it was cool.
[00:27:41] I was actually surprised that they had the other Ken's in the like backup dancer
[00:27:45] true.
[00:27:46] So yeah, and yeah, and the camera doesn't like focus on them that much.
[00:27:49] I was like wondering how many people actually noticed they were there.
[00:27:52] Yeah, but but they were and it was cool to see them.
[00:27:55] Yeah, it was neat.
[00:27:56] Love that for a CV loop.
[00:27:57] Yes, absolutely.
[00:27:59] Marvel's really sleeping on doing Shang-Shi too.
[00:28:00] He might as well do this.
[00:28:01] Yeah, that's well, I'm free.
[00:28:04] So yeah, but yeah, the I'm just Ken performance was really good.
[00:28:07] The other performances are fine also.
[00:28:08] I don't know.
[00:28:09] The Billy Eilish won the best original song category also from Barbie, which you know, it's
[00:28:14] a fine song.
[00:28:15] It's even though she had a song in Barbie.
[00:28:18] It's it.
[00:28:19] Yeah, it plays over the end credits.
[00:28:20] I think it plays like three times in the movie.
[00:28:21] It's not I'm Ken's who care.
[00:28:22] I'm sure you know, I'm just Ken is just such a big breakout song.
[00:28:27] So fun.
[00:28:28] It's cool.
[00:28:29] It for me, it would have been I'm just Ken and I also in the mics, I did also nominate
[00:28:33] Pink, which is the song that plays the beginning, which turns into like, you know, do like
[00:28:37] talking about the existential thoughts of death that Barbie is feeling right, right,
[00:28:41] which is very fun.
[00:28:42] But yeah, I'm just Ken.
[00:28:43] It's great.
[00:28:44] You know, it was like the moment of the night I think that that whole performance was really
[00:28:46] good.
[00:28:47] Yeah, I also liked when Godzilla minus one won Best Visual Effects and the team had a bunch
[00:28:51] of little Godzilla toys that they were holding.
[00:28:54] Yeah, that was the that was awesome.
[00:28:56] I'm glad they won.
[00:28:57] Yeah, I'm very, very touching and everything.
[00:28:59] But also like the most offensive and egregious playoff of the night where these people who clearly
[00:29:05] English is not their first language.
[00:29:07] Yeah.
[00:29:08] While offering a tribute to one of their team members that died before they finished the film
[00:29:12] or I forget exactly what happened.
[00:29:14] And then they just played like cut them off with the music and be like, you fucking kidding
[00:29:17] me.
[00:29:18] I'll never came up with this idea as it's the worst.
[00:29:21] Yes.
[00:29:22] That was really weird.
[00:29:23] But I was happy that they won at least.
[00:29:25] Yes.
[00:29:26] And yeah, it was cool to see and they all had their God's like, I liked when they got up
[00:29:29] there and like the guy who is like going to represent them to like us, you know, do his
[00:29:33] speech.
[00:29:34] Had to like fumble with his Godzilla toy and the Oscar and like kind of hand over to it
[00:29:37] as well.
[00:29:38] It was very fun.
[00:29:40] That was good.
[00:29:41] I also there was a so I haven't seen this movie yet but the 20 days in Marriott Paul one
[00:29:45] Best Documentary feature which had I think a really terrific like a really storing speech
[00:29:49] from the film's director about the Ukraine, right?
[00:29:52] Yes.
[00:29:53] What's going on in the Ukraine?
[00:29:54] And it was like, I think a very powerful moment that was then just transitioned into I'm
[00:29:59] just can start playing with the instrumental version like as the yeah, like they didn't
[00:30:02] play them off.
[00:30:03] I don't think but it was just like that that was the song that like led out of that speech
[00:30:07] very well which was weird.
[00:30:08] Yeah, the Oscars are a strange thing.
[00:30:11] They are a strange thing.
[00:30:13] That is very true and then yeah, also I did want to mention to one one also other nice
[00:30:17] moment that I really liked when Christopher Nolan one best director.
[00:30:20] I thought he gave a very good speech about you know how you know, a cinema is really
[00:30:23] just in its infancy.
[00:30:24] It's you know, it's 100 years, like 100 years old and like, you know, there's still so much
[00:30:28] more to do with the medium and all that kind of stuff.
[00:30:30] Steven Spielberg with one who presented the awards him.
[00:30:32] He like did the whole thing.
[00:30:34] And then when they walked off stage together, you could see them like they're talking
[00:30:38] they're like chit-chatting or whatever and like behind them, you see footage of Nolan
[00:30:42] accepting his Oscar just a few seconds ago.
[00:30:44] And then you also see footage of Steven Spielberg accepting his Oscar for Shinkel's list
[00:30:48] like 30 years ago.
[00:30:50] And it's like side by side and you're watching Steven Spielberg and Christopher Nolan walk
[00:30:53] past it and it's like, ah man that's a cool like, you know, I mean if anybody could like
[00:30:57] claim to be today's Spielberg in terms of like creating large scale blockbusters and
[00:31:01] all that kind of stuff, it's kind of Christopher Nolan right?
[00:31:04] Absolutely yeah.
[00:31:05] Yeah, I agree.
[00:31:06] I think that's one of the fun parts about the Oscars that you know in general is getting
[00:31:11] to see the kind of luminaries and titans hand off these kind of awards to newer people
[00:31:15] or whatever.
[00:31:16] So that's pretty fun.
[00:31:17] Yeah, nice touching.
[00:31:18] Yeah, definitely.
[00:31:19] Any other moments of the Oscars by getting that stood out to you that you wanted to give
[00:31:23] a shout out to?
[00:31:24] Um, not that I could think of off the top of my head.
[00:31:26] I think it was just pretty cool.
[00:31:28] The best documentary short I think that the last repair shop one which is pretty cool.
[00:31:34] I haven't seen that or anything but that was just exciting because like what that is
[00:31:37] about and how LA County is the last county in the country that gives out free musical
[00:31:42] instruments to its students which is insane.
[00:31:44] Right.
[00:31:45] And then one of them was there so that was real exciting.
[00:31:47] Um, so yeah.
[00:31:48] I don't know in general it was fine.
[00:31:50] Yeah, I like to diva and Joa Randall speech as well and how she made Paul G. Maudi cry
[00:31:55] and that was very, like you know, very affecting you know.
[00:31:59] But yeah, no again, I think it was a pretty good ceremony that you know there wasn't
[00:32:03] a lot of surprises other than the actress thing for me which you know was a surprise but
[00:32:08] again, Emma Stone is great in poor things.
[00:32:09] Like I'm glad that it flew a glass on handle lose which I do think completely divorced
[00:32:14] from my relationship to the Roxy.
[00:32:16] I do think Willie Lads don't gave the best performance I saw in 2023.
[00:32:19] Like I feel like every time I talk about it, I have to be like, I know I work at a place
[00:32:23] that might give me some bias towards that opinion but truly like completely divorced
[00:32:27] from it.
[00:32:28] I really think she's fantastic killers.
[00:32:29] But I'm glad like if she had to lose like it was to somebody who I thought was getting
[00:32:33] a really good performance too.
[00:32:35] You know, like if it went to like or at least like you know a performance that felt
[00:32:38] no worthy or whatever.
[00:32:39] Like if it went to like a net bending for Nia ad then I would be like, I don't know
[00:32:43] about this.
[00:32:44] This feels wrong.
[00:32:45] It feels wrong.
[00:32:46] It feels like the fix is in.
[00:32:48] Yes.
[00:32:49] And I'm saying that as somebody who has not watched Nia ad but that's most people, that's
[00:32:52] a yeah and even in her speech, Emma Stone was like you know acknowledged Lily Gladi's
[00:33:00] down and said like we share this together, share this to you or something like that.
[00:33:03] It really felt like she was not expecting to win.
[00:33:06] Yeah.
[00:33:07] Like in her face when in the in the answer day it was like what have what has happened
[00:33:10] why is it like she had a vision of the Twitter discourse.
[00:33:13] Yeah.
[00:33:14] Exactly.
[00:33:15] Like her life just flashed before her.
[00:33:18] Yes.
[00:33:19] So that was exciting I guess there are nice that at least she was like what the why
[00:33:23] why me what should be you kind of thing.
[00:33:26] So yeah, I mean I guess I haven't seen a lot of the other performances but I think
[00:33:32] that also from what I've seen a lot of people on Twitter and stuff of course with the
[00:33:37] hashtag discourse.
[00:33:38] Yeah.
[00:33:39] You know in the what we talked about with the technical words like the most this and it's
[00:33:44] like certainly the most acting.
[00:33:46] Yes.
[00:33:47] And definitely like Emma Stone import things is in much showier performance than the glass
[00:33:50] certain killer's a flower moon that's the thing and it's a really technically accomplished
[00:33:54] performance she's really great in it but it's obviously the two performances doing very
[00:33:57] different things.
[00:33:58] Yeah.
[00:33:59] So yeah is what it is see what happens I didn't really like that so in like you know in
[00:34:03] spite of losing the Oscar you know it's it's one of those things sometimes like you
[00:34:07] know you get one shot and then you're done but I do think really glad stone will be back
[00:34:10] I think so yeah in the years to come.
[00:34:12] I know she has been cast as the lead in a movie with a Charlie Kaufman script which that's
[00:34:18] cool that's exciting and she is working on a movie with the director of the unknown
[00:34:21] country which she was in and played a Montana film festival two years ago and yeah look
[00:34:26] forward to that too so there's more to come from what the class so and I think she'll
[00:34:29] be back I think so relatively soon.
[00:34:31] Yeah, she's got some like who loop any series or something they were advertising in during
[00:34:35] the or saw yeah with really cute I think I think so yeah it's like that's the Mike Smith
[00:34:39] household like dream team can't wait.
[00:34:43] Yeah absolutely all right so any last thoughts about the Oscars might for you do you want
[00:34:47] to move on some discussions I think we could do some discussions all right yeah the Oscars
[00:34:51] also boy in the heron one animated feature and I had I had that one I got that one you
[00:34:56] got that one good job and I was I was betting against myself because I really thought like
[00:35:00] I thought spider verse was going to win but I was like bet with my heart with boy with
[00:35:04] boy in the heron like what I would like prefer to see happen yeah like and every like you
[00:35:09] know I look through articles about like you know people predicting the Oscars and like we're
[00:35:12] using math to figure out the Oscars and you know everyone's like spider versus gonna win
[00:35:16] this thing and I voted boy in the heron and I was right so happy about that good job
[00:35:21] and I thought it was funny that hey homie's hockey was not there which sounded about right
[00:35:24] also yeah but all right yeah discussions all right Mike D what do you have to discuss in
[00:35:30] the today besides the Oscars first thing I have to discuss is 2023's thanksgiving direct
[00:35:37] about you live around I have been meaning to watch this for a while how was it yeah it's
[00:35:41] pretty good it's pretty fun it's on Netflix now give it a little whirl it is pretty violent
[00:35:49] funny silly you know it's a pretty self aware which I was enjoyed and I was pretty shocked
[00:35:55] at how modern it is and feels like it looks really sleek and and like a current hard
[00:36:02] movie like you know if you've seen the trailer that the fake trail that it's based on is
[00:36:06] this like really grimy and chewed I mean of course it was part of grind house and all
[00:36:10] that stuff so that's part of the aesthetic of that whole project but I thought it would
[00:36:13] be like that but it's not it's just like a modern day slasher movie which is pretty fun
[00:36:18] I was like wow this is neat and get twisty-turny stuff I think the John Carver character who
[00:36:23] is the villain or the slasher personist stuff is fun so yeah I'd say you know give it a
[00:36:29] whirl if you're just like I don't know what am I gonna do something I don't really want to like
[00:36:33] you know if you're not in a zone of interest mood like let's just throw this shit on and have
[00:36:38] a fun time have some beers or whatever and so yeah I really you know had a good time with thanksgiving
[00:36:43] nice yeah I really wanted to see this when it came out just because I was so like I was so impressed
[00:36:48] that like oh they're still making movies based on the trailers from grind house yeah that's still
[00:36:53] happening that's the thing because the machete movies came out like shortly after grind house happened
[00:36:58] right it was like machete machete kills and hobo with a shotgun was right around the same time too
[00:37:03] and then like 15 years passed and now we have thanksgiving yeah and so yeah I do want to see
[00:37:09] it I know it's on Netflix now I wanted to see it when it came out and then I think it was just
[00:37:12] like there's so many other movies that were happening around the same time I didn't have the time
[00:37:15] to do it yeah but I'm glad to hear it's pretty good it's good time and Patrick Dems seems really
[00:37:20] good in it which is very fun cool and he's got this I guess he's like from Maine or whatever the
[00:37:24] hell they're new hand or whatever you know New England thing yeah just got this like real thick
[00:37:28] accent it's so funny but yeah thanksgiving cool all right what else you got Mike I got two more
[00:37:35] the first thing I'll talk about is carnival of souls from 1962 and this is a cold horror movie that
[00:37:44] we sort of have as a connection to our upcoming first episode of the Roy Shider season of like
[00:37:50] of a thickly works and so yeah that's what's her name can does hula gala hula goss is the star
[00:37:58] of carnival of souls and it's also in this the first Roy Shider review we'll be talking about soon
[00:38:02] like you're dancing around what the name of the first Roy Shider movie is gonna be like yeah why
[00:38:06] why it's a big secret like it's a reveal that's curse of the living corpse yes that movie which
[00:38:11] I think now that you've watched both these movies you've seen her entire filmography I think she's
[00:38:15] in like one other thing or something and it might be archival footage but yeah she's incredible I don't
[00:38:20] know what what happened to her the why she didn't have a career but yeah carnival of souls is from
[00:38:24] a 1962 and it's this real down and dirty like could could almost be a mystery science theater movie
[00:38:31] like you can you can see that path but there's just something to it that really elevates this movie
[00:38:36] and I don't know what it is it might be can't it still go as a performance or just the direction
[00:38:41] but it's about this it starts with this like group of girls like you know young adults are
[00:38:49] whatever in this they're in this like kind of cool looking car and this like group of boys pull
[00:38:52] up and they're like hey babes you want to drag race and they're like yeah you know spoken their
[00:38:57] cigarettes and they drive their car the girls end up crashing over off a bridge into a river
[00:39:02] and it's this whole thing and they're like this search party stuff and and miraculously can't
[00:39:07] just hila glosses character comes out of the river like hours later and she's fine and she's
[00:39:11] totally fine but she starts being haunted by this like ghost guy this dude and that kind of looks
[00:39:17] like almost like a zombie from night of the living dead like just this like really caked on make up
[00:39:22] with the big dark eyes and stuff and he's she starts having visions of him there and all this stuff
[00:39:26] and it eventually just culminates in this big like ghost haunting thing with her and has a really great
[00:39:32] moment reveal at the end that I won't spoil necessarily but it's pretty fun and yeah so it's
[00:39:36] just this kind and it's like 78 minutes it's like one of those kind of things that's just shoestring
[00:39:40] budget from the Midwest regional actors thing uh and it's just really weird and nightmarish and
[00:39:45] it really feels like you can kind of see the the kind of like cult influence on a lot of modern stuff
[00:39:50] or like David Lynch things I think I mentioned to you that like oh I understand where episode eight
[00:39:54] of Twin Peaks the Return came from really because it's got that kind of vibe to it but like the super
[00:40:00] early proto version of that nightmare logic thing going on so yeah carnival of souls big recommend
[00:40:05] it's on Criterion channel they have a like a disc of it and it's the the version on Criterion
[00:40:10] channel is the full like has all the commentaries has a special feature or nice one of those things
[00:40:14] on the channel so if you're interested in that check out carnival of souls rad yeah I do want to
[00:40:19] watch this I was kind of looking like reading into it because of the Roy Shatter season then because
[00:40:23] of the canis hill and gas connection and uh yeah looks awesome uh like a looks to the movie that was
[00:40:27] like completely like you know when it came out nobody cared about it like didn't like didn't
[00:40:31] really hit it all and then like in the 80s it suddenly got kind of a resurgence and people
[00:40:34] started like really paying attention to it I believe it's in the public domain also so really
[00:40:38] you can probably watch it anywhere if you wanted to yeah if you want to check out the nice uh
[00:40:43] you know restored HD version check it out on Criterion but it's probably on YouTube somewhere
[00:40:47] uh yeah yeah they like filmed it at this big portion of it at this like abandoned Mormon
[00:40:52] amusement park in Utah that the director apparently was driving across country which like
[00:40:57] screeched to a hole on the side of the highway was like what is that building like we need to write a
[00:41:01] movie about it uh and uh yeah this is really creepy and decrepit and weird um so yeah carnival of souls
[00:41:07] very cool all right you got one more Mike one more also a Criterion channel watch and that is uh
[00:41:12] 1978's the silent partner whoo whoo which uh have you ever seen this movie Mike no but I think I saw
[00:41:20] some people talking about it's like Elliott Gould and uh yes okay yeah and Christopher Plummer
[00:41:24] yeah it's uh it's just like the hot young sexy Elliott Gould which is so funny and also hot young
[00:41:29] sexy Christopher Plummer like what is that around yeah but yes Elliott Gould plays a bank teller
[00:41:34] who realizes somebody is going to rob his bank uh rob his window specifically puts it together
[00:41:40] and it's like the first you know 15 20 minutes of him how he does that and what when he realizes
[00:41:45] and what's gonna happen so he uh devises this plan basically it's sort of like if you paired it with
[00:41:50] Charlie Barrack it's like the same movie but in opposite sides of the thing so uh this is he
[00:41:56] realizes that this is gonna happen so he basically like brings a bag to work that day and starts
[00:42:01] instead of putting money in the drawer uh is stashing it in this bag so when the guy comes to rob his
[00:42:05] drawer his window it's like a thousand dollars in the drawer but all the receipts say 50,000
[00:42:11] so the guy gets away with a thousand dollars but he's reporting yeah 50,000 got stolen bus I don't
[00:42:16] know you know he keeps the money from he's he keeps the money for himself and then Christopher Plummer
[00:42:20] who is the guy that robs him realizes of course that he's he's been ripped off and then it's about him
[00:42:24] hunting down Elliott Gould and them cat and mouse together over this missing money um which Charlie
[00:42:29] Barrack is when they robbed the bank and they get away with like a million dollars and it's reported
[00:42:34] like only 50,000 got stolen and they're like oh shit this is Bob money yeah right so it's like
[00:42:38] the opposite side of this spectrum um so yeah it's Silent Barter and it's awesome there's there was a
[00:42:43] review on uh on letterbox that was like you know 25% cat and mouse with Elliott Gould and Christopher
[00:42:49] Plummer 75% hot women throwing themselves at Elliott Gould and it's definitely that yeah uh but
[00:42:56] it is very fun and just like a pretty uh tense you know crime thriller from the 70s with Elliott
[00:43:02] Gould so the Silent Barter sounds awesome sounds like Christmas movie also a Christmas movie what okay
[00:43:08] yeah sounds great sounds right up my alley uh absolutely you would love it sound partner on criteria
[00:43:12] in channel now and then yeah that's all you got right Michael that's it's two and and also
[00:43:16] hell divers too sure uh still plug them out one yeah new patch dropped today so I'm Jones in the
[00:43:21] finish recording so I could go kill some bugs fair enough all right so I'll talk about just a few
[00:43:25] movies then uh yeah also first one to give a shout out to a movie that you watched a few weeks ago
[00:43:30] Mike and that is sexy beast oh which uh you know speaking of Jonathan Glazer who directed the
[00:43:35] zone of interest just won an Oscar the other night sexy beast was his first feature film uh and it's
[00:43:39] on the criterion channel right now they have a Jonathan Glazer collection uh I'm planning to watch
[00:43:43] birth soon as well that's right now the only one of his features I haven't seen yet but yeah sexy beast
[00:43:48] uh greats just a really wild fun crime thriller a real 180 from zone of interest like yeah
[00:43:55] from what I've seen like I can't believe it's the same person uh yeah but at the same time like
[00:44:00] watching sexy beast I was like and knowing like I've seen under the skin and I've seen
[00:44:04] zone of interest I have not seen birth yet and I feel like that will complete the puzzle but I see
[00:44:08] I can sort of see the transition like across those four films like I could I could sort of see it
[00:44:13] happening but yeah sexy beast is terrific it's just a super fun crime thriller and Ben Kingsley
[00:44:17] is giving one of the best performances he'd ever seen in anything he's amazing in it he's so good
[00:44:22] I think about that moment when he comes back from the airport and he's just like no no no no no
[00:44:27] like that that whole seed is just fucking insane I think we've had it all the time since I've watched
[00:44:31] it it's videos uh he's so good and the only thing the only thing I can say against the movie
[00:44:35] is that at some point Ben Kingsley leaves it and it's still very good but it's not as good because
[00:44:41] Ben Kingsley's not there anymore like if you like you had that high yeah with that character and then
[00:44:46] he's gone but yeah I had a blast watching sexy beast that was super fun I think you get once he
[00:44:51] once Ben Kingsley leaves you get Ian McShane though right that's true yeah Ian McShane pops up and
[00:44:55] I didn't realize he was in the movies I was excited to see him too yeah nice I'm glad you liked it yes
[00:45:00] via sexy beast sun criterion channel right now and then also want to recommend perfect days
[00:45:05] which is the new film from Vim Vendors this was nominated for the Oscar for Best International Film
[00:45:10] the other night and it lost his own interest but Vim Vendors director of movies like Paris, Texas
[00:45:16] until the end of the world wings of desire yeah this is a new movie takes place in Japan
[00:45:22] uh it is a slice of life drama about a guy who is a toilet cleaner in Japan like his job is just
[00:45:26] he's a public toilet cleaner and you're just watching him go about his day pretty much uh you just
[00:45:31] kind of hanging out with this guy as he cleans toilets and uh yeah it's it's sort of like four or five
[00:45:36] short stories like all kind of centered on this guy but it's not really like giving you like a ton
[00:45:42] of like plot or anything it's just like this is what this guy's life is like this is what uh
[00:45:46] these are the people that he interacts with and it's a delight it's just a very like wonderful film
[00:45:51] the life of firming in a weird way great soundtrack a big a big part of the movie is that he has
[00:45:55] these like old cassette tapes that he just listens to in his car and yeah there's this great Japanese
[00:45:59] version of house of the rising sun that plays at one point uh which is very very good of course they
[00:46:04] play perfect day by we read at some point because how could you not um and yeah it's uh it's a really
[00:46:10] really terrific movie just had a great time with it so perfect days go check it out nice yeah
[00:46:14] I uh yeah this I forget I hadn't heard about this movie I guess I get I don't really know but
[00:46:20] yes somebody recently was cheating about it or something and I was like oh damn I gotta check
[00:46:23] this movie yeah it looked cool yeah it's very very good and you've seen uh until the end of
[00:46:27] the world right like you yes I have a criterion yeah oh nice I've not seen that yet uh that
[00:46:31] that's like the five and a half hour uh sci-fi movie made right I was gonna say you're gonna use
[00:46:36] it for a movie day you would get to watch that in one other movie because there's the five and a half
[00:46:42] hour I think I think it has the theatrical cut on the disc but it also has the the crazy five hour
[00:46:47] one right which is the one that like you're supposed to watch yeah right that's the director's cut
[00:46:51] or whatever yeah yeah so yeah until the end of the world I hear it's really good to one of these
[00:46:54] days I'll get around to it yeah awesome but yeah perfect days really terrific uh so yeah we were playing
[00:46:59] out of the rocks this past week I'm sure there's other places you can watch it now at this point but
[00:47:03] that's where I saw it and then wanted to mention two other movies that I watched recently uh the first
[00:47:07] of which is uh from 1950 uh it's a noir film from Nicholas Raid director of Rebel Without A Cause
[00:47:13] and several other movies as well uh in a lonely place uh which stars Humphrey Bogart and Gloria Graham
[00:47:19] have you seen this movie Mike I have the the criterion have it opened it yeah okay uh because I
[00:47:24] I really liked uh they live by night which is also a uh Nicholas Raid movie yeah that's a good movie
[00:47:29] too um but yeah in a lonely place stars Humphrey Bogart as this Hollywood screenwriter who was kind of
[00:47:35] down in his lock he's like out of work and he's like he's just really really shitty he's a really
[00:47:38] shitty dude in a lonely place he's in a lonely place yeah and one night he meets this girl
[00:47:44] and the girl like comes back to his house with him uh and he really like brings her there just so
[00:47:49] she can like read the book that he's supposed to be adapting into a screenplay okay uh and she does
[00:47:53] and then she leaves his house and then the next day turns out the girl was murdered at some point
[00:47:59] that night whoa and the police suspect Humphrey Bogart of doing it but his neighbor play by Gloria
[00:48:04] Graham saw him like Lee saw him like kind of see her off and like like she left the house
[00:48:09] and so she's like his witness to uh you know him not like like like to clearing his
[00:48:14] alaba yeah exactly but then they start a they form relationship Humphrey Bogart and his neighbor
[00:48:20] uh and then she starts to wonder did he actually kill this girl oh and it's really cool it's
[00:48:25] really it's really intense Humphrey Bogart is amazing in it it's he's really scary in it which is
[00:48:29] not something I usually associate with Humphrey Bogart usually he's like you know unflapable detective
[00:48:33] guy you know that's right right his his thing and he's very good at that and it really feels like
[00:48:38] a performance that is letting him stretch into doing a lot of other different things and so yeah
[00:48:42] in only place it rules uh it's it's really really terrific and uh yeah if you've got the blue
[00:48:46] right Mike I highly recommend uh watching this as you can yeah yeah I'll have to check it out
[00:48:50] and that sounds cool uh yeah I think I snapped it up in one of those 50 you know flash sail things
[00:48:54] was like oh yeah uh and then it's just went on the pile yeah fair enough I watched it on tubi with ads
[00:48:59] uh so there was so there was that uh the blue the ads were pretty artfully placed into the movie
[00:49:05] I gotta say that oh that's good because a lot of book moments in the movie where it just kind
[00:49:08] of dissolves into the next scene and that's when the ads would pop in so I'd be like okay yeah this feels
[00:49:12] like it's this feels like a natural break point for did you see that the thing going around that
[00:49:16] like uh oh man where was it like Chilean or South American Star Wars broadcast thing did you see
[00:49:21] oh yes yeah where uh like they would like like put the ads into the movie or something
[00:49:27] so like there's a moment when Obi-Wan like it's like it reaches for Anakin's lightsaber to get
[00:49:32] to Luke and just like grabbing a beer out of the fridge it's like opening a cooler and taking a beer out
[00:49:37] so funny very very good all right and then I have one last movie I want to talk about Mike as you know
[00:49:42] I've mentioned in the podcast before I've been watching all the Buster Keaton movies yes
[00:49:46] I've been watching all the movies that Buster Keaton directed uh to kind of keep up with blank check
[00:49:51] uh who uh did the movie here ago from a year ago uh like 10 months ago oh come on uh but uh
[00:49:59] yeah blank check with Griffin and David they did a whole Buster Keaton series and I realized
[00:50:03] that I had only actually seen the general out of those movies uh so make my way through them I'm
[00:50:08] almost done uh and I wanted to give a shout out to steamboat bill junior which uh have you seen
[00:50:13] steamboat bill Mike? I think so I was gonna say I think of the only two I've seen are the
[00:50:16] general and steamboat bill but okay no for sure gotcha well this is the one that uh has the famous
[00:50:21] house falling down on Buster Keaton yes and so that that's like a stunt that I knew about like
[00:50:26] way before the movie obviously it's been recreated in so many different things there's a great
[00:50:29] arrest development episode that like recreates that stunt which is fun but uh I assumed because
[00:50:35] that's the famous stunt because it's like the big thing because like you know Buster Keaton
[00:50:39] like could have easily died doing that like very it's like two tons of yeah that's an actual
[00:50:45] side of a house it's an actual side of a house it's like not just like you know plywood or something
[00:50:49] this is like the real this is the real thing and so yeah he could have easily died doing it and so
[00:50:54] I assumed well that's got to be like the last thing you see in the movie like the movie will be
[00:50:58] building up to this and instead what happens is like that's like a pretty incidental moment
[00:51:02] in like a 30 minute climax where like this hurricane is hitting the town and like a lot of stuff
[00:51:07] is going on there's a moment when like Buster Keaton like grabs onto his tree and the tree lifts
[00:51:11] up into the air and he's just like flying yeah and again like I talked about Sherlock Jr when I
[00:51:17] watched that and there were so many moments in this movie where I was like how the hell they do that
[00:51:21] yeah this is 1927 or whatever like this is it's it bottles the mic it's really great silent comedy
[00:51:29] uh it's really fun and uh yeah the stunt work is unbelievable it's cool to watch yeah I mean
[00:51:32] that's the thing with all those uh all those comedies just in general like on top of being um you
[00:51:37] know delightful and whimsy and and and uh you know also very romantic and sweet in some of them
[00:51:42] uh yeah just like how how but how they do that though yeah and sometimes it's the drop half of a house
[00:51:48] on some but yeah sometimes just oh yeah no we literally dropped a house and yeah just hope to
[00:51:53] stand again the right spot we we think we know a trick in our entry so you should be fine
[00:51:58] yeah but maybe not uh yeah so it was really fun to watch and actually I'll give a shout out to
[00:52:04] another Buster Keaton movie uh college which uh just just college the name of the movie is college
[00:52:10] and I want to give a shout out to that one specifically because on the blank check episode
[00:52:13] they didn't like college that much and I thought college was hilarious I thought college was
[00:52:17] really really funny like half the movie is uh Buster Keaton trying out for sports at his college
[00:52:22] and being bad at them and every time I was like this is good this is good stuff I had a really
[00:52:26] funny I thought college was really funny and I think it's uh based on the blank check episode maybe
[00:52:31] underrated people should go watch college um and all the best key ins are on youtube they're easily
[00:52:36] available nice isn't there a uh famous Harold Lloyd movie that's like football and college and stuff
[00:52:41] right that's uh that sounds right yeah that sounds familiar uh freshman or something like that
[00:52:45] I think it is the freshman yeah I've only I've only seen a safety last from Harold Lloyd uh
[00:52:49] which is fantastic but uh yeah I'm pretty sure the freshman would be that movie that sounds
[00:52:55] correct yeah I don't know just think it's interesting that there's just like was a genre at some
[00:52:59] point it's like kai goes to college yeah try to play football college I think college like really
[00:53:04] kind of took off around this time that's sort of the can be a concept of college became a thing
[00:53:09] that's like oh yeah no people should go to this or whatever like everybody can go to this yeah
[00:53:13] exactly oh it was a lot easier to do back yes so there's that too uh yeah I know the freshman
[00:53:18] is the name of the movie Harold Lloyd is a college freshman trying to become popular by joining
[00:53:22] the school football team there it is and I believe that's this is 1925 so it's like a year or two
[00:53:27] before buster Keaton's college yeah Keaton totally re-ployed off um but there it is all right and
[00:53:34] that's all my discussions Mike uh yeah yeah we did we did another week we talked about every single
[00:53:40] thing we possibly could have exactly uh so might D where can we find you online this week
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[00:54:02] yes we talked about last week um we are going to be watching Star Trek first uh first contact
[00:54:07] and then we also got another one for a uh another DBZ episode yes how exciting we are also at RIP
[00:54:14] uh a cure toriama. Yes uh yeah so we uh we've talked about Dragon Ball in the past so we
[00:54:19] somebody paid to make us watch uh Dragon Ball Super Broly and uh that's when I got to really uh
[00:54:24] just talk about Dragon Ball nonstop for an end yes and so yeah I was very saddened by the passing of
[00:54:29] a cure toriama as I mentioned then I've been re-watching Dragon Ball just over the past like two
[00:54:34] years on and off kind of I've watched all of Dragon Ball I'm now deep into Dragon Ball Z I'm in
[00:54:39] season three of nine seasons there's still a lot to go yeah still a lot to go but uh yeah I've
[00:54:44] really enjoyed the re-watch over the last couple of years and so I'm glad they'll have another chance
[00:54:48] to talk about it in the in the wake of a cure toriama passing yes yeah very sad um but yeah
[00:54:53] I'm excited to watch my second ever Dragon Ball Z Dragon Ball movie um I did I guess I'll talk about
[00:55:00] it on that episode but I did watch you know maybe like ten episodes of Dragon Ball the very
[00:55:04] the first ten that's more than I thought you did actually yeah I got in there for a while and then
[00:55:08] I was like I don't know if you if you watched like three more episodes you will have finished like
[00:55:12] the first saga of Dragon Ball like I mean the first ones like thirteen episodes okay I guess I'll
[00:55:16] go back and see you gotta see what peel off wishes for right yeah true yeah you gotta see what
[00:55:21] the first wish is basically I guess yeah still on it out there but all right you can find me online
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[00:55:47] movie news and all that good stuff next week it's gonna be Mike makes Mike watch uh this time around
[00:55:53] of Mike D is finally making me watch it pushing boots the last wish yes we're we're getting back
[00:55:59] in the boots yeah I guess should I watch pushing boots one Mike I've never seen it what uh I mean
[00:56:06] I guess so I haven't seen it in 10 years or whatever since so uh but every fun yeah let's do both
[00:56:12] if you find yeah I will take it under advisement we'll see yeah I still gotta catch up with some
[00:56:18] star truck movies where we get in first I just keep adding more stuff to my plate now we're watching
[00:56:24] these Roy Shireder movies uh but yeah pushing boots the last wish Mike D's gonna make me watch that
[00:56:28] one uh and then I make Mike D watch uh 2016's Swiss army man uh which the first film the first
[00:56:34] feature length film from the Daniels who directed everything everywhere all at once I was kind of
[00:56:39] super like not surprised I remember just Mike D I think missed it when it came out but like
[00:56:43] Mike D loves everything everywhere so much yeah uh and hasn't seen some starry man's figured I figured
[00:56:48] now's the time might as well yeah I got to complete the uvra yeah exactly and it's Oscar season so
[00:56:53] we'll talk about a movie that was completely ignored by the Oscars but whose directors then made a
[00:56:57] movie that was very big at the Oscars yes I feel like they're they're new projects recently got
[00:57:01] announced or something that I was I think so what I don't remember anything actually uh I'm
[00:57:06] gonna look it up right now real quick I'm gonna we're gonna make Kyle continue listening to this while
[00:57:10] I think of this out nobody can vamp like Mike Smith can look at you go uh so upcoming projects as
[00:57:17] of 2022 the Daniels was on a first look TV deal with age 24 they also have five year film deal
[00:57:23] with universal pictures and in March 2023 it was revealed they directed one episode of Star Wars
[00:57:28] at skeleton crew uh which is gonna be an upcoming Disney plus Star Wars show but yeah nothing on
[00:57:33] their Wikipedia about uh a new movie announcement yet so then I guess not let's see what happens
[00:57:38] you ever know yeah maybe they'll break up and do like what uh you know solo Daniels work so just be
[00:57:44] Daniel a Daniel from the twisted mind of a Daniel oh man John Krasinski what a guy yes
[00:57:57] I forgot he got the uh I believe John Krasinski got from the imagination of John Krasinski I think
[00:58:02] you're right no it was Matthew Vaughan got from the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughan for our guy
[00:58:07] oh which honestly if that trailer had not said from the twisted mind I don't think our
[00:58:14] girl would have had nearly the backlash that it did right don't yeah although maybe I don't know
[00:58:18] everything I've heard about that movie is bananas I think it largely would have been ignored I haven't
[00:58:21] seen it but I think it largely would have just been ignored but because the trailer played so often
[00:58:25] and because it said from the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughan if he came like a hate watch thing
[00:58:31] you're talking exactly uh yeah or are you gonna say I just said maybe okay maybe uh anyway next
[00:58:36] week Mike's Mike watch Swiss Army man Puss and Boots last wish in the meantime the complete
[00:58:40] works will be returning soon with season four for our Roy Shider season so stay tuned for updates on
[00:58:45] that one I believe the Nicholas Cage film Arcadian just premiered at South by Southwest uh what
[00:58:50] I do what I forgot about or maybe didn't even realize it's from the director of the trust
[00:58:55] uh which is which Nick Luscage was in yeah which we're which is a pretty high point in the cage
[00:58:59] VOD error I think yeah maybe my top 10 the trust I think I think you were really into the trust yeah
[00:59:04] I really liked that movie yeah it's a good movie yeah uh so from the director of the trust it's
[00:59:07] like a post-apocalyptic horror film uh so yeah just premiered at South by Southwest and hearing
[00:59:11] pretty good things I believe it's coming out in April so let's talk about that soon that's
[00:59:15] gonna be coming up can we and that is the end of this week's episode Mike and my go to the movies
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