Off Mike - Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, Blue Eye Samurai, The Marvels, and more!

[00:00:00] Let's get together and talk about the movies that we saw this week. We'll have discussions, talk film news, we'll laugh a lot and act like geeks. Sometimes we'll have a guest or two sometimes it's just the two of us.

[00:00:09] Let's crack some jokes and tell some folks to come along and hang with us! Mike and Mike go to the movies Mike and Mike go to the movies Yeah! You have chosen wisely. We are Mike and Mike go to the movies

[00:00:30] and we're here to make you think about death and get sad and stuff. I'm Mike Smith and joining me as always is a man who volunteers as tribute. Mike Decretia. How are you doing, Mike? I'm doing great. My Hunger Games band? Is that what's going on there?

[00:00:44] One of my movies is The Hunger Games. The new one that just came out. Yeah, that's why that's being thrown in there. Got it. Understood. The first part was the Scott Pilgrim reference. You got to try to be current with the times.

[00:00:56] I get it. Yeah, stuff from 15 years ago. 15 years ago that had new releases this past weekend. Very weird. What a strange time to be living in. Yes, absolutely. How are you doing, Mike? I'm doing okay recovering from our marathon Michelle Yopah finale recording session we had yesterday.

[00:01:14] So that's always an exciting time. Still can't believe that that show is over. We're done with the season. We'll never talk about Michelle Yopah ever again for a month and then she'll have a new thing coming out. Exactly, yeah.

[00:01:26] Yes, like Mike said, we recorded our Michelle Yopah finale episode yesterday for the Complete Works. This episode will be out before that episode airs though. This will be out this Thursday and Michelle Yopah will be out next week.

[00:01:39] But yeah, I recommend people check it out because it's a really good episode, I think. Yeah. Just throwing it out there. I think that you should listen to the hard work we put into that episode. Exactly, yeah.

[00:01:51] If you maybe are only listening to Mike Mike go to the movies but haven't really dipped your toe into the Complete Works, give the finale a shot. It's going to be an all-encompassing Michelle Yopah episode, a really long one.

[00:02:01] It's going to be at least three and a half hours. Yeah, well worth your time and that will be out on Monday. So check that out. Yes, if you have, I guess on Monday, never mind.

[00:02:10] I was going to say if you have long holiday road trips coming up because it's also Thanksgiving week but it'll be out after that so it doesn't matter. Should have timed that out a little bit better. She should have been in one less movie.

[00:02:21] Exactly, I think we could have removed a movie from that filmography. No, no, we needed all of it, baby. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, the Complete Works season three is finally wrapping up. Season four going to be happening relatively soon.

[00:02:36] We have to figure out who season four will be about. We got a couple of Nicholas Cage movies to get through first before we get into that. So yeah, in the near future we'll be figuring out season four of the Complete Works

[00:02:46] and we encourage people to get in on that. Get on the ground floor for season four. Start from the beginning and send us your picks for who you want season four to be about, all that stuff. Yes, absolutely.

[00:02:57] But today we're going to kick it old school chill style or whatever the kids say. Yes, that is exactly what they say. All the Gen Z kids say we're kicking it old school chill style. That's right.

[00:03:07] And yeah, I know today especially because we had such a long episode yesterday, we figured we're going to take it easy for Mike and Mike this week and just do a discussions episode. Just talk about some of the random stuff we've been watching recently. Yeah, yeah.

[00:03:20] In true Mike and Mike fashion you watched everything and I was like, I guess I'll watch some things. I think really what happened is I watched the 10 song movies in the course of like four or five days. Right. And I was like maybe movies were a bad choice.

[00:03:35] Maybe I'm burned out on the idea of filmmaking for a while. Yes, the art form of cinema. I've had enough of it. Right. And that's fair. That's totally fair. But yeah, so I have a bunch of stuff to kind of get through today.

[00:03:51] We basically we haven't done a discussions in I think a little over a month. So it's basically just the entire last month's worth of movies. I've culled it down a little bit. But a lot of the major new releases are pretty much what I'm talking about today.

[00:04:02] And then you've got kind of a mix of stuff here and there, right Mike? Yeah, every now some things I caught up from earlier this year

[00:04:09] and then just some stuff crossing off the list and one new Netflix series that I'll talk about a lot because it's the coolest. Fair enough. So let's get into it right now, Mike. It's time for our discussion. What's this?

[00:04:39] All right, it's time for our discussions here on Mike and Mike Go to the movies. And I think I'll kick things off with one thing right off the top, a Netflix TV series that just premiered this past weekend that I referenced in my intro.

[00:04:51] And the reason I'm only going to bring it up kind of briefly is that I've only seen the first two episodes of the show yet. There are eight episodes total.

[00:04:57] I've only seen the first two, but I really wanted to talk about Scott Pilgrim takes off, which is a new anime series based on the Scott Pilgrim graphic novels slash movie.

[00:05:07] It is produced by Edgar Wright and Brian Leo Malley who Brian Leo Malley wrote the graphic novel Edgar Wright directed the movie. And the entire voice cast is the entire cast of the movie.

[00:05:19] It's Michael Sarah, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Chris Evans, Brie Larson, Brandon Routh, Kieran Culkin, Anna Kendrick, Aubrey Plaza. They're all back for this TV show. And I remember when the show was announced, maybe about a year ago or so, like something like that.

[00:05:33] I remember like seeing the announcement and being like, oh my God, I can't believe this is a thing that's happening. But in my mind, in the back of my head, I was like, okay, I had an idea of what this was going to be.

[00:05:42] It's an anime adaptation of the graphic novel using the movie characters. So it'll be like the same story but in a cartoon instead of a movie. And it'll be like, you know, more true to the graphic novel or whatever.

[00:05:53] And I've read those books that that was somewhat exciting to me. But at the same time, it's like, it's a little bit of a retread. You know, it felt a little bit like just kind of doing the same thing again.

[00:06:02] I mean, down to casting all the same people from the movie and all that stuff. It's sort of like, in my mind, I mean, I think this was something I was more excited about than like your Disney live action remakes.

[00:06:13] But like, it's not super that concept, not super far removed from my issues with those Disney live action remakes, you know? And so I watched the first episode of Scott Pilgrim Takes Off and thought it was pretty solid, really enjoyed it throughout.

[00:06:26] But that first episode is kind of that. It is, you know, hitting the same beats from the movie in the comic and, you know, expanding on it a little bit. But, you know, not too much, but it's still pretty fun. I was enjoying it.

[00:06:37] And then the first episode ends with a crazy twist. A huge difference from the comic slash movie. And then the entire rest of the show, from what I understand, builds off of that. And then the last episode, too, all new stuff. Completely like, you know, new territory,

[00:06:54] uncharted territory for the Scott Pilgrim story. And I was kind of blown away by it. And it's really fun. It's really funny. The animation is really terrific. And I can't wait to watch more.

[00:07:04] I mean, I have a vague idea of what's happening now, like where it's going to go from here because the spoilers are all over the internet now.

[00:07:11] But I really, really love those first two episodes and just the way it like pulled the wool over my eyes and being like, this is not what you expected this to be at all. And I think that was a lot of people's reaction to it is really great.

[00:07:21] So yeah, Scott Pilgrim takes off as somebody who loves Scott Pilgrim, you know, the comic and the movie. So the movie three times it was in theaters. It was the first Blu-ray ever bought. So like it was a whole thing. I've seen the movie countless, countless times.

[00:07:34] I think this anime show is turning out to be like a really fun companion piece of the movie. A great continuation of that story in some ways. So yeah, Scott Pilgrim takes off. It rules. I can't wait to watch the rest.

[00:07:45] That's awesome. Yeah, I saw like, I don't know what the twist is. I haven't watched any of it yet, but I did see the showrunner, Ben David Grubinski tweeting something along the lines of like, I can't believe we managed to pull off this thing.

[00:07:57] And like he didn't like that we pulled this off maybe or something is what he said. Yeah. And I guess and like be careful with spoilers kind of all weekend. He was tweeting like, oh no, no, no, like, ah, it was kind of all over it.

[00:08:07] And then I think by Sunday night he was like, well, it's out there. It's all like, I can't pretend anymore. So that's really cool. I'm excited. Like I don't know what it is still, which is cool,

[00:08:15] but it's funny, like, you know, kudos to them for being able to do trick everybody basically into being like, oh okay, yeah, it's going to be the Scott Pilgrim thing again. And then I guess it's not. So that's pretty neat.

[00:08:24] Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, worth checking out. It's on Netflix right now. Mike D, what are you watching lately? Well, I guess I'll start with my Netflix show also. Sure. That makes sense. Makes sense. And this is another anime show that just dropped,

[00:08:36] I believe last weekend or the weekend before, and it is called Blue Eye Samurai. And this is a just, it's just the most my shit there could possibly be a thing basically. This is a anime set in like, it's like an opening text crawl kind of thing,

[00:08:54] like 1630 something Japan, which has now closed its borders and expelled anything outlawed anything of like European descent, people of European descent, and also like European origin items, you know, stuff like that is outlawed.

[00:09:09] So anybody that is of mixed race would be seen as like a demon and treated as a monster and stuff like that. And the main character is a mixed race white person, you know, his father were white and his mother was Japanese.

[00:09:22] And she's samurai and it's just the whole thing that like there were four people, four white people in Japan at the time of her birth, the main character Mizu, her birth. And so she's like swears revenge on these four people.

[00:09:35] Doesn't know which one of them is your father, but like all four of them will die. Basically it's like the first episode and it is the beginning of that journey. It's only eight episodes long. And of course it has awesome samurai action.

[00:09:46] The animation is really incredible. The it's a TVMA and it's like a hard TVMA. Like it's really violent, but not not stylized, which makes it really intense. It's almost like a like, you know, like a Jerry Salnier movie or something.

[00:09:58] Like all of a sudden there's just really graphic realistic violence and you're like, Holy shit, this is nuts. A lot of nudity and stuff, but not in any kind of like grotesque or like, you know, a pornographic way or anything like that.

[00:10:11] But it's just really awesome and a mature intense story about that, you know, living in a society that is treats you as a demon just because you are of mixed race. There's also like an androgyny thing to Mizu being that she's a woman

[00:10:24] in a like this heavily male dominated world. And so she's pretending to be a man so that she can pass as a samurai and like a that whole thing walking in both worlds and all this stuff. And it's just an absolute delight. It's so cool. It's so intense.

[00:10:36] The action is amazing. I was reading a whole thing about that they in the pre production hired like an actual stunt team, like as if they were making a live action movie and had them fully choreograph all the action scenes for the season.

[00:10:50] And then that's what they used as the reference to do the animation rather than just being like, I think normally animated shows and stuff like that. Like it's the animators themselves do like live action references and just so they have like pose references and things. Right. Yeah.

[00:11:04] But this was like full like previs like stunt team choreography which they then used to animate the show, the action, the fight scenes and stuff. And they look so fucking cool. And I forget who's the person's name, the woman's name that is not a showrunner

[00:11:20] or it's not created by her but they call it's like an executive director or something like that. There's like some weird, you know, Netflix non-union job title or some shit. Basically it seems like where she I guess is effectively the showrunner

[00:11:32] but she's been doing a lot of the, I forget the name checked like the Battle of New York was a lot of her in the Avengers movie. She did the Voltron and a couple other like high profile action stuff

[00:11:42] in the kind of like blockbuster space that wasn't the John Wick team. What is that 3711? I think it's there. Yeah, something like that. Something like that. Yeah. That's not that. Like 8711. 8711. Yeah, I think you're right.

[00:11:52] So a lot of like major blockbuster action scenes is this woman has been doing the stunt directing for and now she's showrunning the show and it looks awesome and it's great. And every episode is like 45 minutes. It's just like right in that sweet spot.

[00:12:04] The first episode is an hour long but it really ends with like a 10 minute like coming this season kind of like preview thing at the end of the episode. So like actually it's only 45 minutes or whatever. Yeah. And big, big recommend had so much fun.

[00:12:15] I watched like two episodes of the first that is like, oh my God, I got to keep going and then I watched two episodes, two episodes. So I watched it over a weekend and I really hope that it doesn't become one of those things

[00:12:24] we always talk about with like hot new Netflix show for five days and then nobody ever remembers it or talks about it again and we know Netflix hates their animation department and so they're cutting the budgets on everything for laying off everybody.

[00:12:35] So it ends on a pretty big cliffhanger and stuff. So I'm really hoping there is more in the future for Blue-Eye Samurai but holy shit, it's so good. Nice. All right. So Blue-Eye Samurai which is on Netflix right now and anime heavy kickoff to our discussions episode here.

[00:12:49] Yeah. I think you would really love it too. Blue-Eye Samurai, especially having just watched all these Michelle Yeo movies. Right. Those obviously aren't Samurai movies but like definitely Woosia stuff is involved and the influence is for Blue-Eye Samurai. So check it out. Very cool. All right.

[00:13:04] The first season of that's on Netflix right now. How many episodes is it Mike? It is eight episodes. Just like Scott Pilgrim takes off. There you go. It's the conspiracy. Yes. Yes. All right. So yeah, both of those are on Netflix and then I have a few,

[00:13:16] I mean like I said all of mine are new releases. I'll go through a couple of mine right now. First of which it's been a while since we've done a discussions episode so I haven't really had a chance to talk about

[00:13:25] Killers of the Flower Moon on the podcast yet. Oh yes. Which of course is the new movie directed by Martin Scorsese, starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert Nero and Lily Gladstone, friend of the show. Yes. I met her once. She's great. That's enough. Yeah, exactly. That's all it takes.

[00:13:42] And not just met her, I did a Q and A with her for a different movie that she was in called Quantum Cowboys. It played at the Montana Film Festival last year. And yeah, so, and she's great. She has ties to the Roxy Theater here in Missoula,

[00:13:52] the end of theater near my house where I also work because she used to work there also. So we're basically coworkers. Yeah. You're your best friends. Our co-working, our working time doesn't overlap by any means. Not even close. But yeah, there's still connections there for sure.

[00:14:05] Killers of the Flower Moon is the new historical period epic directed by Scorsese, depicting this, the murders of the Osage people in the early 1900s and the kind of orchestrated of all the white people who were doing those murders. And it's a really, really incredible movie.

[00:14:21] I loved Killers of the Flower Moon. I think it's such a sweeping epic. It is, you know, it's a tense crime thriller. It's also incredibly devastating. And there are a lot of great performances in this, but Lily Gladstone's performance is like one of those

[00:14:34] things where you see it and you're like, holy shit, how can somebody beat this good in a movie kind of thing? She's unbelievable. She's so great. And yeah, it's an incredibly powerful, intense story that is told incredibly well. It's a Scorsese movie.

[00:14:48] We don't get many of these anymore and it's worth watching them when you do, you know? It's so funny. I saw there is like some article mentioning that, but I think it was an interviewer with Ridley Scott because he's promoting Napoleon. Yeah. And he's like, ah, fuck off.

[00:15:02] And he's like, what are you going to do? I'm going to make it a little more movies in the time it took him to make The Flaa Moon, which is hilarious. And the difference between Scorsese, you'd be like, every moment is fleeting.

[00:15:13] I mean, I would just appreciate what we can get and Ridley Scott being like, fuck you, I'll keep making movies still on the bed. I'm going to live forever. So funny. Yeah. And so killers of the Flaa Moon is devastating. I think it's an intensely personal story

[00:15:24] for Scorsese. And I think the ending of the movie without spoiling what like Scorsese does with it what he does with it, really kind of drives that home in a really interesting way. I think, yeah, Gladstone's amazing. Robert De Niro is like an unbelievable villain in this movie.

[00:15:40] He's so great. Tecaprio also very good. Jesse Plemmons pops up and when he pops up like two hours into the movie, it's like, oh shit, here we go. You know, and there's just so many great moments in this film. It's a beautifully shot movie.

[00:15:52] It's a beautifully edited movie. I really loved it. So yeah, Killer's the Flower of Moon is, I believe still in theaters right now. I know we're still playing it with The Roxy actually, but yeah, I think you can go see it in theaters.

[00:16:02] And I think at some point relatively soon, it'll be on Apple TV Plus as well because it's distributed by Apple and they just announced a Blu-ray of the movie today actually, which I know a lot of people were concerned about

[00:16:12] like if it was gonna get a Blu-ray release. So it is. So that's good. Thank you. You haven't had the chance to see this yet, right, Mike? I have not. Yeah, this is, I mean, I also still haven't seen Oppenheimer and I think that is finally on VOD

[00:16:25] or something I think recently, right? I think so, yeah. Yeah, maybe it has a last week or so. But yeah, I don't know. It's one of those things where it's like, oh man, this is the Zeitgeist movie, but like it's now two or three weeks later.

[00:16:33] And I'm like, well, I guess I'll just wait. But you know, like, I don't know. I guess I'll see it eventually. But I also didn't see, I still haven't seen The Irishman either. So maybe I just have to have like a long Saturday

[00:16:45] and just sit down and watch six hours of Martin Scorsese movies. Yeah, I mean, if The Irishman and Killers The Flower of Moon together, it's more like seven hours. Is it seven? Okay, perfect. They're both three and a half hours long. So yeah, it would be seven hours.

[00:16:58] That's your whole day right there, but it would be a good day, Mike. It's, I mean, The Irishman, I feel like maybe some people didn't like The Irishman. I loved it. I think it's like top tier Scorsese. It was one of my favorite movies of that year.

[00:17:08] I think Killers The Flower of Moon almost as good as The Irishman. Oh really terrific. I mean, you know, I don't think you can really go wrong with a Scorsese movie. Tends to make very good stuff, you know? One of the greatest ever do it.

[00:17:20] This actually, this month at The Roxy because The Killers The Flower of Moon, we've been doing a series called The Scorsedes where we have been playing movies that Martin Scorsese made in the 80s. We've been playing Raging Bull, King of Comedy.

[00:17:31] I did not get to go to see those. I've seen them before. I did get a chance to go see After Hours, which I have seen once before, but man, that theater sold out. It was a sold out screening of After Hours

[00:17:42] and it was just such a great time. It was, I mean, After Hours is basically a perfect film and it was super fun to watch that. Genuinely like one of the funniest moments in a movie that I think about kind of all the time

[00:17:52] is the scene in After Hours where Griffin Dunn is in the taxi on the way downtown, like kind of the like inciting incident in the movie and it turns into like a silent comedy. Like it's all like in like slow frame rate or whatever

[00:18:05] where it's like all sped up and stuff and he's like bouncing around and rolling over in the back of the taxi. It's this guy speeding downtown. He puts the like $20 bill in the little, the slot in the window and it's just like, shoo, shoots out the window

[00:18:17] because it's so windy, he's going so fast. And that's the reason he has no cash for the whole rest of the movie. But that whole scene is just so funny. Like him just rolling around and bouncing all over in the back seat.

[00:18:28] I think about it all the time, it's crazy. It's so good. Watching After Hours, like I thought to myself, 10 years ago when I was 20, like this could have been like a normal Tuesday night for me. And now watching it when I'm 30,

[00:18:39] like, oh, this is the worst nightmare I've ever been. This is the most stressed out I've ever been. Well, kind of psycho would agree to leave their apartment that late at night. And I guess he, you know, Patricia Arquette, you know, I think it was Anarchette.

[00:18:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, hard to say no. I get it. I get it. But yeah, Killer's the Flower Moon, it's out in theaters right now, go see it, it's fantastic. And then a couple other just other kind of quick ones here.

[00:19:05] No Hard Feelings is now streaming on Netflix, which is the new comedy starring Jennifer Lawrence, which I meant to go see back in June when it came out and then never did. But I watched it on Netflix and had a really good time. This movie's really funny.

[00:19:18] I had a very good time with it. It's Jennifer Lawrence and this other guy, I forget his name. Yep, I'm blanking on what his name was. But the idea is that Jennifer Lawrence answers an ad, you know, she's about to lose her house. She doesn't have a job.

[00:19:30] She's an Uber driver and she loses her car so she can't drive, has no money. And so in order to make enough money to save her house, she agrees to date this kid's son, this like 19 year old son who never came out of a shell.

[00:19:41] He's about to go off to college. And yeah, and the parents, one of them is Matthew Broderick. And perfect. Yeah. And so she dates Jennifer Lawrence like in her 30s, pretending to date a 19 year old essentially and all the sexy escapades that they get up to.

[00:19:58] And yeah, it's a pretty fun time. It's pretty good. I had a good time with it. It's genuinely top three Jennifer Lawrence performance. She's great. That's what I heard. I haven't seen this one either, but I remember all the buzz that it got

[00:20:06] and everyone being like, wait a second. Yeah. Is this actually a good movie? Hold on. Yeah. No, it's really solid. It's a really fun comedy and it's on Netflix now. So it's worth watching there. And then also recently I went to New York

[00:20:19] and I came back and that's typically how flying works. On my flights, one of my flights when I came back I watched Transformers Rise of the Beast for the Michelle Yeoh podcast. On the other flight, 6 a.m. I'm leaving for Minneapolis. I'm leaving from Missoula to Minneapolis

[00:20:34] and then going to New York. I needed something to keep me awake, but like not something where like, if I fell asleep it was not a big deal. So I put on the Super Mario Brothers movie. Nice. And I gotta say kept me awake. So it's, you know,

[00:20:49] the biggest endorsement I can give it. It kept me awake. It's an okay time. It's fine. It's not as bad as I thought it was gonna be. Billion dollars. Yeah. Essentially, yeah. I mean, I'm somebody who, I've played a lot of Mario games in my life.

[00:21:03] I do have an affinity for Mario as a franchise and stuff. And this movie is just filled with, you know, a lot of moments where I could point at the screen and being like, hey, I know that. Hey, I know that. And it's filled with all that.

[00:21:15] And I don't think it really holds together as a movie all that well, but as an experience for that, you know, I kind of enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty fun. Really the only thing hurting it's like, I mean, you know,

[00:21:27] the only thing that like really stands out is like actively not great is unfortunately Chris Pratt's Mario voice. It's just, cause it's just his voice. It's not, he's not doing like anything else to it. So it just feels wrong coming out of Mario.

[00:21:37] The other ones like all mostly feel are right. Like Charlie Day's playing Luigi. That's pretty good casting. I get that. Seth Rogen's playing Donkey Kong. Great. Awesome. Chris Pratt played Mario. I just don't, I don't get it. It doesn't work. It doesn't compute. Yeah. Jack Black, right?

[00:21:51] Is a Bowser. Yeah. He kills it. He's great in the movie. Yeah. So there's that. But yeah, Super Mario Bros. movie. Animation is really nice. It held my attention long enough to keep me awake on an airplane to Minneapolis. So yeah, the highest endorsement I could possibly give.

[00:22:05] Ringing endorsement. What else have you been watching, Mike? I'll go to a documentary that I watched new to HBO Max in the last couple of weeks, I think. And that is Albert Brooks Defending My Life. And yeah, I mean Albert Brooks is somebody

[00:22:19] that I'm just sort of like been culturally aware of. I haven't particularly seen, I don't think any of his movies that he's like directed or written or anything like that. Which I know those movies all have like a huge cult around them.

[00:22:29] And he in general is a huge cult comic and stuff. And that's really what this documentary is. It's about just his influence in sort of the comedy world. And it has tons of people. David Letterman, John Stewart, Sarah Silverman, everybody, Nikki Glaser, just tons of comedy people.

[00:22:47] And then also movie people. And talking about the way that he shaped cinema on top of shaping stand up comedy and stuff. But it was really interesting more just as a kind of, just an exploration of his career and stuff. And it is pretty surface level I think.

[00:23:02] It's directed by Rob Reiner, I believe, right? Is the son of Carl Reiner if I have the answer. Yes, no, you got that right. Rob Reiner who has many accomplishments to his name besides being the son of Carl. I know, but I forgot which order.

[00:23:14] Who's the dad and who's the son? Yeah, Rob Reiner. Director of the Princess Bride in Missouri. And they've been, it turns out, Rob Reiner and Albert Brooks have been best friends since like junior year of high school or something. They went to high school together,

[00:23:29] we're in an acting class and have had a lifelong friendship. And so it's really just thinking of two old buds who are now kind of aging into that, thinking about mortality era of their lives and just reflecting back on Albert Brooks's career and stuff.

[00:23:43] And yeah, it's really interesting. It's pretty slight, it's like 90 minutes I think. And it's obviously very funny and really interesting just to hear these kind of old timey comedy stories and legends about Albert Brooks's father was like a vaudeville type comedian guy

[00:23:57] who was in a lot of movies who like literally died on stage. It was a wild story. I think they were inducting Lucille Ball into some, oh, I forget the name of the club or lodge or whatever. So I'm like rat pack style kind of thing

[00:24:13] and she was the first woman to ever be inducted into this. And so it was like a huge event, like all of Hollywood culture was there for this kind of thing. And he gave a 10 minute monologue opening speech, sat down in his chair and died on stage.

[00:24:27] It's wild. So like, yeah, just like in the way that, as a 10 year old that would then shape Albert Brooks as like a whole performing career and all of that. And then on top of all of his movies and everything. So yeah, I mean it's pretty good

[00:24:40] if you're just kind of interested in comedy and sort of just like show business history in the 70s and 60s and stuff like that, very fascinating. He's the reason SNL has rotating hosts because apparently Lauren Michaels wanted it to be the Albert Brooks show. Like he wanted him-

[00:24:55] I think I've heard that actually, yes, yeah. And he was like, no, I don't wanna do that. You should have a different host every week. And then they went away and then like three weeks later they were like, okay, but you have to be in the first episode.

[00:25:05] And it was like- Cause yeah, Albert Brooks used to do like shorts every week on SNL. Like that was just, yes. And they talked about that, that he's the reason that SNL has the, you know, like now it's the digital shorts,

[00:25:14] but like they have like film short film segments because Albert Brooks, that was part of his deal also. It was like, I'll only do this if I could do my short films. So that's really fascinating. And then, you know, it's SNL.

[00:25:23] He's the reason SNL is the way it is. And here we are all these times later, all these years later. And yeah, a lot of stuff like that. Just little, little like tidbits and histories and stuff about Albert Brooks. And that's very fun, you know?

[00:25:34] So Joe if you wanna watch kind of like, it has a little bit of like a, you know, my dinner with Andre Vibe because it's literally the two of them in a restaurant until like talking to each other. And then it's cutting to clips and segments

[00:25:44] and stuff of him on late night shows or clips from his movies or stand up routines and stuff like that. And then other interviews with, you know, comedy people. So that's Albert Brooks defending my life. Yeah, sounds awesome. Yeah, sounds really fun. I love Albert Brooks.

[00:25:58] Did they ever talk about his time on The Simpsons by any chance? Oh yes, they have a, what's the good guy? Max L Brooks? Is that the guy that? James L Brooks. James L Brooks, yeah. He's one of the talking head guys and they're talking about,

[00:26:09] he has like a whole story about, you know, the only time that writers would be happy that their scripts would be thrown out were weeks that Albert Brooks was there because he could just like riff and just like do their thing

[00:26:18] and like who cares about what I wrote? Albert Brooks is here. Right. And stuff like that. And yeah, all the characters, they like do like a kind of like quick montage of like all the voices he's done or the characters he's played on The Simpsons

[00:26:29] and stuff, it's very, very fun. Rad, awesome. That's Albert Brooks defending my life. I believe it's on HBO Max, right, Max? Yes, correct. Cool, all right, what else you've been watching? And then I'll jump into this since it's been a long time since we've done a discussions episode.

[00:26:41] The movie that I watched on Halloween night a month ago following up all my Saw Bee Vs was the movie from earlier this year. Was it like June or something? Was The Last Voyage of the Demeter? I believe it was like August. It was a little bit later.

[00:26:54] I think it was a quick turnaround to the streaming services. It was one of those things where like, why are you putting this out in the summer? Halloween's right there. That's true. You know? But yes, this is a adaptation of a single chapter

[00:27:07] in Dracula and they even say that in the beginning of like it is a text crawl at the beginning of the BV that's like based on the, forget exactly, the like the ship log of The Demeter from chapter, blah, blah, blah in Bram Stoker's Dracula kind of thing.

[00:27:21] It's just kind of interesting. Yeah, it's funny that we had two Dracula movies this past year that were like not really Dracula movies. Like just kind of like off to the side Dracula movies. Yeah, just without Dracula the title and stuff. Yeah. It was very funny.

[00:27:34] And yeah, this is about the journey in the book. Dracula ships himself from Romania to London to close his real estate scam or whatever the hell is going on in Dracula I forget. And this is about that boat journey. And it stars your boy Liam Cunningham,

[00:27:49] Sir Davos Seaworth. Sweet Jesus Seaworth, that's what that's called me. Sweet Jesus Seaworth, yes. He's the captain. Do you got a dismalchian in there? Cause he's a little freak and he's awesome in this like always. Just a bunch of other character actors like that.

[00:28:03] And it's just a fun little, I don't know 90 minute or actually no, it's a little bit longer than that. Two hour movie, which I think might be the like hang up for this movie. It's pretty fun. I think it's like pretty violent when it gets there

[00:28:15] when it starts doing the slasher stuff. It is very claustrophobic for what I guess is a monster movie, but you know it's them trapped on this boat in the middle of the ocean with Dracula. And there's a fun thing that it's like,

[00:28:30] the issue is a little bit that it starts like it's like a mystery of like what's in this casket. It's like, we know, what are we dragging this out for? You know, kind of thing, but maybe it makes it feel a little over long

[00:28:41] in some parts, but like once it gets going and once he escapes from his casket and that's obviously the whole thing in the movie is that Dracula gets out, he's gonna attack people. That stuff is all really creepy. It's really, it looks really good.

[00:28:54] Production design wise and stuff. The boat is like, you get all about the geography of the boat and the signals that are knocking and all this stuff so they know can communicate between decks and all this stuff. It's real fun.

[00:29:04] So yeah, I mean just as like a popcorn and beer on Halloween night with some friends like thumbs up for Last Voyage of the Demeter. I don't know if it's gonna like be a yearly rewatch or anything like that, but it was a fun time.

[00:29:15] All right, that's the last voyage of the Demeter. I think the streaming on HBO Max as well or somewhere else. I think it's around. HBO sounds right, but it's available. Feels like the place where it would be, but yeah,

[00:29:26] I don't know, but yeah, Last Voyage of the Demeter. Rad, yeah, I never got to see that in theaters. I was like, I kind of wanted to see it. Like it wasn't like one that I was like, yeah, if there's nothing else to play

[00:29:34] and I'll go see Last Voyage of the Demeter, but unfortunately there was other stuff playing that I wanted to see. Yeah, exactly. It's a throw it on one night, just see what happens. All right, fair enough. Yeah, The Last Voyage of the Demeter

[00:29:44] and then I recently went to go see The Holdovers which is the new film from Alexander Payne, director of election and sideways. And his most recent movie was Downsizing which I really disliked. I was gonna ask, who's the guy that made Downsizing that everyone hated?

[00:30:00] Yep, Downsizing was awful. But The Holdovers is a big comeback for Alexander Payne. It's very, very good. This movie stars Paul Giamatti as a history teacher in like the 1970s in like a Boston boarding school and The Holdovers kind of refers to

[00:30:15] the kids who don't get to go home for Christmas. Like their parents are busier, they have to stay at the school during the holidays. And so Paul Giamatti is the teacher assigned to stay at the school to watch over the kids.

[00:30:27] And ultimately it is just one kid mainly that has to stay there who's played by Dominic Senna or Cessa. I believe it's his first movie, he's fantastic in it and Paul Giamatti, unbelievable in this movie. He's so great. And Divine Jar Randolph is the other kind

[00:30:40] of main character here. A black woman who was the cook at the school. Her son recently died in Vietnam. And so she's dealing with that kind of hardship. It's a great Christmas movie, it's a very good comedy drama.

[00:30:51] It feels like the kind of movie that we used to get like 20 of every year and now we don't get any of. I haven't seen this yet but I saw one person talking about how much it made them miss New England winter dark comedy. You're right.

[00:31:11] Yeah and it really feels like of a piece with like Hal Ashby movies and Paul Nazarski movies. And so yeah, I really, really love the holdovers. It's really, really terrific and so well worth checking out. Nice. Yeah, I mean heard really great things

[00:31:23] that I just haven't gotten around to it yet. So love a Paul EG movie. I don't know, I'm just gonna decide that's what we all call him. Paul EG, good old Paul EG. Yeah, we haven't seen him in a while I don't think.

[00:31:33] I feel like it's been a little bit since I've seen Paul Giamatti in a movie, right? Yeah, the last thing I can remember is, last thing I remember watching with him in it is Morgan, right? He's the kid. I'm a yo-fod, but that's obviously

[00:31:46] is from like 20, 14 or whatever. That's 2016, yeah. Although I remember in our Morgan episode we were both like, man Paul Giamatti is killing it in this movie. He's so good. He's awesome. Yeah, no the holdovers is really fantastic. A great Giamatti performance and well worth checking out.

[00:32:00] I also went to go see The Marvels recently. The new movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe which we talked to some people. It means the end times, the death of the universe is near. Just the way they're all throwing Mia DeCosta

[00:32:15] under the bus on that is just the wildest PR smear campaign I've ever seen. Very weird, not a fan of that. But yeah, The Marvels, I went to go see it and I was kind of excited for it. I thought the trailers looked okay

[00:32:28] and I'm always down for it. I'm gonna go see whatever new Marvel thing comes out. And so yeah, this is directed by Naya DeCosta who directed the Candyman sequel that came out a couple years ago, which I liked and that was pretty cool. That really was fun.

[00:32:39] And so The Marvels is the sequel to Captain Marvel and it is also a sequel to WandaVision and a sequel to the Ms. Marvel TV show. And that's the real problem here. I'm out. That's the thing, I think people have been kind of like talking about The Marvels

[00:32:57] and like it's time at the box office and why it underperformed so badly. I think the first Captain Marvel made a billion dollars and this one I think is gonna fail to make like a hundred million domestically. Like it seems like it's going to be

[00:33:12] like a pretty huge bomb for Marvel, which is kind of crazy. But I don't think it's, I think there's a lot of factors that kind of go into that. I think maybe part of it is the strike and the actors couldn't promote it or whatever.

[00:33:25] I think more of it is that people are kind of sick of the mediocre superhero movies. So they'll come out for the good ones. Guardians 3 huge hit, Spider-Verse 2 huge hits. But every other superhero movie this year was like it did not do well or severely underperformed, right?

[00:33:39] And I think The Marvels is like the latest victim of that. But also I think the increased interconnectivity of the Disney plus TV shows and the movies is really, really hurting them. And you know, I mean, we've talked about this for years.

[00:33:52] I think you called that as soon as they announced they were gonna be doing that with Disney plus show. Indication. Yeah. I hate to be right about that but vindication. But yeah, and it's a weird thing. Like I actually, I enjoyed WandaVision.

[00:34:03] I loved the Ms. Marvel TV show. Like I thought the Ms. Marvel show was great. So ostensibly I am like the target audience for this movie. And I was just like, yeah, that's fine. It's okay. That sucks. Yeah, it's not that great.

[00:34:16] It really feels like it's missing significant chunks. Like it's an hour and 45 minutes. It's way shorter than most Marvel movies. And part of me is like, oh wow, maybe they like, you know just did like a really brisk, quick-paced, great story

[00:34:27] that can just kind of get in and out. But instead it just feels like 40 minutes of the movie are missing somewhere. What it felt like to me. And that's the thing, to me I was like I've watched every one of these movies.

[00:34:39] I've watched every one of these TV shows. I have a better knowledge of the comics than most. I felt like I was missing something. Like I felt like there was parts of the story that I didn't get.

[00:34:52] So that to me, that feels like a big problem to me. But yeah, I think the Marvels is ultimately like I had some fun with it. There's some okay scenes. It's got Sam Jackson back as Nick Fury. And there's a lot of good stuff with Goose the Cats.

[00:35:06] And there's a lot more of the cats. There's a big sequence with all the flurkins in the movie and they're doing a whole thing. Yeah, I think the villain is incredibly half baked. I think there's a lot of scenes that just feel like

[00:35:19] man, if they had gone further with this this could have been really something. There was a sequence about halfway through the movie where the Marvels, just all three characters go to this planet where Carol is actually like the princess of. And it's an all singing planet.

[00:35:34] The idea is that they can't speak. If you're speaking in a normal voice they won't understand you. You have to sing everything you say. And it's like 70% of the way there to do in like a full on musical number. And then it just doesn't do it.

[00:35:47] And I was like, if you're gonna do that planet and do that concept, like give me a full musical number. Do something. That is what I assume the plot of that show, Shmigadoon is. I don't know anything about that show. But that's wild that they would introduce

[00:36:03] like a musical planet. And just not have a musical number? Yeah, it kind of like starts, like one kind of like starts, but it never really like crescendos into a real musical number. Okay, yeah. And then it's just like, well, all right, that's it. That's it. Wild.

[00:36:19] We're moving on. So yeah, I mean, I think the Marvels is ultimately okay. Like if you're invested in those characters. But I think it does absolutely no work to kind of try to introduce you to, you know, new character. Like, you know, a lot of people have,

[00:36:33] you have to assume a lot of people haven't watched the Ms. Marvel show or Wanda vision, right? Right. And I think this movie just kind of like start, it feels like, I think somebody said it was like, it feels like the season finale

[00:36:42] to a show that doesn't exist. Like that's, you know, like it kind of just throws you in there and is like, okay, it assumes you know who these characters are already. And like I did, but I still felt like I was missing something, you know?

[00:36:52] There's no attempt to just introduce them within the context of the movie. And so yeah, felt off. And then, you know, there's a couple of like shoehorned in cameos here and there that don't really work. And I'm gonna go ahead and spoil the post-credits scene of the Marvels.

[00:37:05] I don't know if you've heard what happens in it. Yeah. So the post-credits scene of the Marvels, Monica Rambo, the one from Wanda vision to own a Paris's character. She at the end of the movie, she gets like basically thrown into another universe. Then the movie ends.

[00:37:18] Like she sacrifices herself. She's in the other universe. Right. And then the post-credits scene is her waking up in that universe and she sees her mom. But her mom doesn't know her because it's a different universe. Right. And so that's like an emotional beat on its own

[00:37:30] because her mom died, all that stuff. All stuff you would know if you've seen Wanda vision. While she was snapped, right? If I remember correctly or something. Yes. Yeah. And they do like kind of briefly recap that in this movie. But and then after that, Beast walks in.

[00:37:44] Beast from the X-Men played by Kelsey Grammar. Kelsey Grammar, not even Nicholas Hull? Yeah. All right. Well, Kelsey Grammar was in X-Men 3 as Beast. He has played the character before. But the weird thing is it's not like the prosthetics like it was in X-Men 3.

[00:38:03] It's just like a CGI beast with Kelsey Grammar's voice. Oh, you know, he was like, I'm not putting that shit on. Yes. But I also think it looks bad. I've seen a lot of people on Twitter being like, oh man, I'm so glad Beast looks like he did

[00:38:16] in the X-Men animated series or whatever. And I'm like, I don't know. I think this looks pretty bad. Interesting. I haven't seen a picture of it or anything. So that's interesting. Yeah, I prefer the prosthetic beast. That's just me. But yeah, it's Kelsey Grammar.

[00:38:27] I'm sure they'll have Nicholas Hull back as Beast at some point too, I don't know. It's also a weird thing to me where it's like, I don't know, they got the X-Men characters back. They got the rights to use those characters. And I think everybody was like, yeah,

[00:38:37] they're going to reboot the X-Men with new people playing the cast and do a fresh start. And all they've done with it so far is bring back old people who've played X-Men characters. Yeah, Patrick Stewart, right? Patrick Stewart was in Multiverse of Madness

[00:38:49] and Hugh Jackman's coming back in Deadpool 3. That's so weird. Oh, that one, okay, sure. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, you can't say, it's Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. And also in Deadpool. It's like the whole shit of Deadpool. And Deadpool will be a whole self-referential thing, all that stuff.

[00:39:05] But yeah, it didn't super work for me. So that was unfortunate. And I love Kelsey Grammar. I think he was great casting as Beast in X-Men 3 back in the day. 30 years ago. Maybe not quite that long. Maybe not quite. Almost 20 years ago actually. So there's that.

[00:39:23] But yeah, it didn't work for me unfortunately, which is a bummer. However, right around the same time as the Marvels happened, Loki season two wrapped up. And Loki season two, great stuff. Really enjoyed it. Thought it was really fun. So I know you watched Loki season one.

[00:39:38] You enjoyed that, but you haven't seen season two yet, right, Mike? Correct, I have not watched it yet. I would recommend watching season two. I have now seen the whole thing and I can say that I think you will like it. Okay. That's my...

[00:39:51] I'm gonna screen the Marvel stuff for you now so that you can maybe enjoy it. But I think you will enjoy Loki season two. I think it continues the trend of like the, like all the themes of the first season and like Tom Hiddleston's so great

[00:40:02] and KiHee Kwan is a really great addition to that show. And he's really fun. And I think these season finale, which might be the series finale of the show is really terrific. Like a really good ending for that character of that version of Loki and all that.

[00:40:16] And also I think a pretty like convenient way where they could write out Kang if they wanted to. They can like kind of like write out the character and go in a different direction and it would be fine. Having great, honestly. So yeah, we'll see what happens there.

[00:40:30] That sucks though with the Marvels, it's just in general obviously, but that's like the kind of thing that in theory comic books are like the potential of comic books are so fun there where it's like, oh, let's just take these three characters.

[00:40:41] What I think like is like a super stand for Captain Marvel, right? Yeah. Like that whole thing. So like on paper is so much fun about comic books and that it just makes me think of that thing when you're reading a comic book and it's just like, bloop,

[00:40:55] if you wanna understand what this is, read Miss Marvel issue 450 and you're just like, fuck off. Like what do you do? Like what are you putting an asterisk in here for? And that's just annoying, which I think we even referenced them doing that in. In Spider-Verse 2.

[00:41:09] Which is really funny when they do it in Spider-Verse 2 I think. Honestly some of the Marvel movies could probably use that. Just like a little bit like that. And I will say, like I said before, I really liked the Miss Marvel TV show

[00:41:20] and I think Iman Vellani as Miss Marvel. Fantastic in this movie. Like she kills it. She's great. And the movie kind of ends, again, more spoilers for the end of the movie, but there's a quick cameo from Hailey Steinfeld as Kate Bishop as her version of Hawkeye.

[00:41:35] And it's sort of like a riff on Nick Fury recruiting Iron Man where it's Kamala Khan recruiting Kate Bishop for like a new kind of young Avengers sort of setup thing. And yeah, that's a version that that's something that I would enjoy seeing. So yeah, there you go.

[00:41:50] Sounds neat. Get a spider going in there and we're on our way man. Exactly. But all right, so that's the Marvels and also Loki season two worth watching there. What else are you watching Mike? I watched all of the Matt Reeves Planet of the Apes prequel trilogy thing.

[00:42:05] Right. Which we talked about last week with producer Colin which the audio got lost for. So I'm gonna bring it up again, god damn it. Yes. But yeah, I think when they made the trailer drop of Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes

[00:42:19] which will be the fourth movie in that franchise the prequel, I don't know what number Planet of the Apes movie would be but in the prequel series. I was like man, I never saw War for Planet of the Apes. I only saw Rise and Dawn.

[00:42:34] Let me go back and spend a Saturday with the Apes. Basically. Hang out with my eight buddies. With my eight pals. And yeah, we watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and then watched War for the Planet of the Apes

[00:42:47] all in one afternoon into night. Cause it's a lot of movies. And man, I can't believe how fucking good these movies are. They're so great. Yeah. They're crazy. I mean Rise of the Planet of the Apes I remember being like when that came out

[00:43:00] being like a huh, wait a second why is this good kind of movie? And it still holds up. It's also I think 90 minutes or an hour 45. It's relatively short in terms of modern day blockbuster run times. So I was like, oh yeah, this is kind of cool.

[00:43:13] This is fun. Caesar Rocks, you know, Andy Serkis says Caesar Rocks. It's very funny. We talked about that moment in that which has a Tom Felton mouthfully Yes. From Harry Potter. Which is very funny. But he's the one that gets to say the line

[00:43:28] you know keep your hip hauls off me you damn dirty ape or whatever he says. Yeah. Like the exact line that Charlton Heston has in the original movie. In the original one. And it just is just a total dud. It just sucks so hard.

[00:43:40] But like what they do with it feels very deliberate. You know, it feels like deliberately sucks almost Almost because it's followed up with I remember when this happened in the theater when Caesar finally talks and he yells no at him.

[00:43:53] You know, there's like a beat of like a one second of like, wow that line sucked. And then no. Yes. I remember being like mid-eye roll and then like my eyes rolling back and be like what? Yeah. Just like everyone gasping in the theater. So cool.

[00:44:07] And yeah, and then it ends with the apes kind of taking over and then dawn of the planet of the apes is sort of the you know, I guess insurgency kind of era or whatever. Right? The simian flu has wiped out humanity

[00:44:19] and now the apes are living in their own society in the redwoods and all this stuff. And Jeremy Clark is in that and Gary Oldman is in that. And it's like one of those movies that you're just like, wait a second. And I think this one in particular

[00:44:30] was really well received. And I remember this being like a holy shit kind of movie not being a surprise necessarily but just like wow great movie. And it is awesome. The action's awesome. It has an incredible shot where it's towards the end

[00:44:43] when it's like the big battle is going on and the humans roll in with a tank and there's one shot where the camera is just fixed on the side of the tank and you see one of the it might be a Coba or somebody.

[00:44:55] It's one of like the main apes go in and it's just like throwing dudes out of the hatch. Like he's just completely killing them. It's awesome as the top of the tank just like spins in a circle as the tank is rolling.

[00:45:09] So you're just like are seeing all these buildings and stuff it's just fucking amazing. And we used to have movies and it was the second plan of the apes prequel. It's amazing. And then I watched war for the plan of the apes

[00:45:21] and this might be the greatest movie that's ever been made. Right? It's phenomenal. Yeah, that was, I think it was in my like top three movies that came out that year in 2017. I loved war for the plan of the apes so much.

[00:45:32] Yeah, I remember you being a huge fan of it. And I think that is kind of the prevailing opinion that the people that did see this movie, which I think, I don't know why people, I mean, I think it did well from what I like remember,

[00:45:42] but I don't think it had quite the praise of the impact of Don. Which is nuts because it's the best one and Don did so well. Why didn't everybody, why didn't I go see a war for plan of the apes in 2017? I don't understand it.

[00:45:55] But yeah, and it's just like straight up Vietnam movie. Basically it's Apocalypse Now where Woody Harrelson is this like rogue army commander that is kind of squaring off against Caesar and the apes. And also the humans, because he's gone rogue basically. And yeah, I mean, it's very funny.

[00:46:14] Like for a lot of the movie, it is just like kind of homage and subtext that it's that, that it's Apocalypse Now. And then at one point they go into Woody Harrelson's like base or office. And it's just like, I forget if it's Purple Haze

[00:46:26] or some Jimi Hendrix song. And you're just like, oh, okay, I get it. And then literally they go into like tunnels under the base and somebody has painted Apocalypse Now. And you're like, okay. All right, Matt Reeves, calm down. But yeah, it fucking rules it's so good.

[00:46:43] What's his name? He plays bad ape in that. And I forget his Steve's on, I think is his name. Oh yeah. Yeah, as he's bad ape in War for the Plan of the Apes. And he's the most delightful, perfect character

[00:46:54] that is just the sweetest boy that I love forever. And he's so good at it. So yeah, I mean, if you were like me and just kind of like, I'll get around to it and War for the Plan of the Apes, absolutely do it.

[00:47:04] Watch the trilogy, watch all three of them and then just enjoy the majesty that is War for the Plan of the Apes. Nice, yeah, I have not seen these movies since War came out. Because I remember I did a rewatch when War was coming out.

[00:47:15] So I watched Rise and Dawn then. I have all three of them on Blu-ray and so yeah, I'm thinking of a rewatch will have to happen before Kingdom comes out. And I might try to do like a full Planet of the Apes for you watch.

[00:47:26] Like watch the franchise? The whole franchise. I believe there's a five original movies. I think I've seen three of them. And then there's the Tim Burton Planet of the Apes remake and then there's the three Rise, Dawn, War prequels. But I love the Apes.

[00:47:40] I love piece of Apes. I even love in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, they like reference the Charles and Heston stuff because like on the news in the background they're talking about like the Icarus launch and all this stuff.

[00:47:54] And then there's like a newspaper headline at the end which is like, you know, Lost in Space question mark or whatever. That's the guy, that's them and they're gonna come back later. Which is fun. Yeah, so it's a weird like it's,

[00:48:05] it actually is like a true prequel like trilogy. I think at the time people are like, oh this is just like a reboot, like a full, like but I think it actually is within the continuity of the original series which is neat.

[00:48:17] And you know, James Franco is actually like pretty good in that first one. John Lithgow is really great as the father of Alzheimer's I think. I remember John Lithgow being like heartbreaking in Rise of the Planet of the Apes. It was really devastating.

[00:48:28] And you know, for the James Franco of it all, like he's okay. He's fine. You know, in that, but it's really about the anti-circus and the ape motion capture performances. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like if, you know, they should have nominated anti-circus for an Oscar for Flames Caesar.

[00:48:44] He's unbelievable in those movies. And it's the most amazing part of that is how good the apes look. There's a lot of movies I think that have like very high or very CGI reliant and they just kind of look like trash. And like three years later,

[00:48:59] they look like trash, you know? Like The Flash. Awful. A few months later, man, that really looks like a shitty- Immediately upon release, this looks like awful trash. But even Rise back to 2011 looks amazing. 20 and War for the Planet of the Apes looks incredible.

[00:49:15] So yeah, it's just really impressive that these movies didn't cost $300 million like Indiana Jones, which I know had other stuff going on. But you know, they don't have a budget that high. I'm sure they're very expensive to make, but they're not that expensive

[00:49:29] and they look a thousand times better. So I'm a little scared though for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes because it's the Maze Runner guy. Which I don't see those movies. Yeah, it's not Matt Reeves anymore. I mean, he didn't direct Rise, Rupert Wyatt directed Rise

[00:49:42] and then Matt Reeves directed Dawn and War. But yeah, Matt Reeves, I think got hired onto the Batman on the success of his apes movies on the strength of those. And so yeah, now it's West Ball directing Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes

[00:49:54] who directed I think all of the Maze Runner movies. I think there's three of them, I wanna say. Yeah, three or four, which is crazy. Is that many? Yeah, I haven't seen any of the Maze Runners. So I can't judge their quality.

[00:50:06] You know, I'm just hoping for good ape action. You know, I'm hoping for a good time. Yeah, and that guy also right at the same time is the trailer for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes dropped was attached to the live action Zelda movie.

[00:50:19] Yes, yeah, he's also attached to that. So that's something. So it doesn't matter if or when that'll ever happen, but really making Maze Runner moves, you know? Yeah, absolutely. He's running through that maze. Yeah, there you go. That's the Planet of the Apes trilogy that Mike D watched.

[00:50:33] I watched Anatomy of the Fall recently, which is a new release from director Justine Triette. It won the Palm Door Decan Film Festival earlier this year and we were playing it at the Roxy. So I finally got the chance to watch it.

[00:50:45] This is a courtroom drama about a woman played by Sandra Hewler whose husband dies under mysterious circumstances. And she essentially has to clear her name and try to make the French court believe that she did not kill her husband. And the question of whether or not

[00:51:01] she killed her husband is what you, like you don't know whether she killed the husband or not so you're kind of trying to figure out along with them. But the only witness to the event is her son who's like a 12, 13 year old kid who is blind.

[00:51:14] And so yeah, that adds a wrinkle to it as well. And I love the procedural aspects of this of them just kind of going over the minute details of the case. The first half of the movie is just kind of them prepping for the court case.

[00:51:27] And then the back half of the movie is pretty much just the court case. And yeah, it's a really terrific courtroom drama. It's very snarky and French. So that's very fun. There's a lot of very funny moments in it. But it's also very quietly devastating at other points.

[00:51:39] And Sandra Hewler who is the main character, she's amazing in it. She's so great. So yeah, Anatomy of the Fall just recently stopped playing in theaters near me but it might be playing near you. So if you go to get a chance to see it,

[00:51:51] go see Anatomy of the Fall. It's great. Yeah, I've heard really great things. And obviously with the Palm Dore win, like lots of awards buzz for the end of the year for Oscars and stuff. So that's exciting. And I've heard amazing stuff. I just haven't gotten to it.

[00:52:04] It'll be that thing that when I text you in December in like, I guess two weeks to be like, hey, what are some movies I missed? And then I try to cram. Spend the last week and a half of the year just cramming as much as you can.

[00:52:13] Yeah, for our top 10 of the year episode. This will probably be in the mix. Nice. But go check out Anatomy of the Fall. And then I also went to go see Priscilla is the new movie from director Sophia Coppola. It is a Priscilla Presley biopic

[00:52:27] with Kayleigh Spani playing Priscilla, Jacob Alorty from Euphoria playing Elvis. And I will say Kayleigh Spani's greatest Priscilla, Jacob Alorty is Elvis. There's something here. It's really good. That's what I heard everyone just like dunking on what's his name for Mel. Austin Butler. Yeah.

[00:52:44] Like this guy went insane and thought he was Elvis for whatever, still talking in the accent. Yes. He lived as Elvis for three years. And then Jacob Alorty watched Lilo and Stitch once and it's like, I got it. Exactly. But he really is truly great as Elvis.

[00:52:59] I think, and I think this movie, it could be a really interesting companion piece to the Elvis movie which came out last year. You didn't see Elvis, right? No, I didn't. So Elvis is this very big bombastic movie that is very much about Elvis the spectacle

[00:53:14] and partially Elvis the man, but it's more like the spectacle. And Priscilla is barely in that movie. Like there's a quick montage where he gets married and then she's off screen for the rest of it or whatever. So Priscilla, this movie feels like a very good companion

[00:53:28] piece because it is the Priscilla movie and it's very squarely her movie. Like Elvis is a supporting character who comes in and out sometimes but it is just kind of about her and it's quiet and demure. It's a Sofia Coppola movie.

[00:53:39] So it just feels very different from Elvis and it's just much more of a character piece. And it's about this relationship and this really weird, strange sort of toxic love story because infamously Priscilla Presley was like 14 years old when she and Elvis met.

[00:53:55] And so that's, and this movie doesn't shy away from that. In fact, it like really accentuates the fact that like, oh, she was a child. And so that's part of it as well. And so yeah, it's really an engaging story. It's a great bio-pic.

[00:54:07] Kelly Spani is great in it. And yeah, I don't think there's any Elvis music used in the movie either. Like the actual performance aspect of Elvis's career completely separate from this movie for the most part. And yeah, it does a really great job of kind of depicting that.

[00:54:22] So yeah, Priscilla, Sofia Coppola's new movie worth watching. Nice. Yeah, also another one like, yeah, I've been hearing really great stuff, haven't gotten around to it. Just haven't been going to movies, you know? Yes, that's fair. I reached the pinnacle with Saw X

[00:54:33] and was like, fuck it, I'm out. I'm born. And you didn't even go to that one. You just watched it at home, right? At home, yeah exactly. What was the last movie you went to go see, Mike? Just out of curiosity. Honestly, couldn't tell you.

[00:54:42] I'd have to think about it for a while before. Mission Impossible probably, actually I'm thinking about it. Okay, yeah that was back in July. July, yeah. Man. I think, because yeah right after that I got my job, can't go on Tuesdays now. Well it's empty.

[00:54:55] But I was going on Tuesdays when it's $5 tickets, you know? Right, yeah fair enough. All right what else are you watching Mike? I got, my last thing is basically a David Fincher double feature. And I'll start with the old one

[00:55:06] and we could both talk about the new one. Sounds good. Yeah, you recently talked about watching 1997's The Game. Crossing off. The first one for you that you hadn't seen I think or something like that? That was the only David Fincher movie I had not seen

[00:55:17] and I had had that criterion disc for a long time and just never got around to watching it and I wanted to finish, I wanted to watch it before The Killer came out essentially. Right, I had the opposite thing where I was like I watched The Killer

[00:55:27] and I was like wait a second, I still haven't watched The Game. So it's like let me watch that. And yeah, we just fucking incredible. I don't know, it's just, Chef's Kiss of a Movie with Michael Douglas, this investment banker guy and his brother Sean Penn

[00:55:40] buys him a, it's like a serious version of Game Night. Yes, yeah essentially it is. This like kind of like a live action game thing. It's this creative, I forget what the CRS is, the acronym, I forget what the actual name of the company is and oh yeah,

[00:55:57] we're gonna sign you up for this thing and you won't know when it starts and it'll be this whole interesting game thing. And they call him and tell him actually your application is rejected. You'll not be participating in the game. Sorry for wasting your time.

[00:56:09] And then people start doing stuff with the game to him and he's like, well no I'm not supposed to be here. It kind of like- But that's all part of the game. It's all part of the game. Yeah exactly. And he's got the nightly news,

[00:56:21] the evening news anchor cuts in and he's talking to have a conversation with him live on this TV and this whole thing. And yeah, then he's just off to the races on this whole conspiracy. You can't trust your own eyes. You don't know who's in on it.

[00:56:33] Who's, what's part of the game and who's not part of the game and all this stuff. And I love this is one of my favorite things because one of my friends pointed it out to me how much he hates this in movies

[00:56:42] and now it's so noticeable when this thing happens. Where it's like just take a deep breath and explain what's going on to this person and the movie won't be happening anymore. He'll just get out of the plot but because everybody's like, it's too much to explain.

[00:56:55] We have another two hours of movie to happen. It's so funny when that thing happens. So, but yeah there's a lot of that going on where he's like it's too confusing and he just runs out of the room and you're like no just stay and tell him

[00:57:06] what's going on. Which is very funny. But yeah, everybody's all the performances are so great. It's just, you know, Michael Douglas, man. He kills it. He's so great in this movie. He's so good in this movie. He's such a scumbag at the beginning

[00:57:19] and I love the whole, you know, he's on top of the world. He's the big power broker guy with the $1,000 pair of loafers. And then by the end, he's hitchhiking into a roadside diner with his $18 in his pocket trying to beg for a ride home.

[00:57:36] And he's just like brought to the lowest lows. And then to even lower lows with the actual end of the movie. It's just crazy. And then everyone's just applauding and laughing and I forget what the song is that plays.

[00:57:48] Oh, as Gallas is the song at the very end. Right, yeah. And it's just great needle drop. But yeah, this movie's so good and it's just like David Fincher baby. You had it from the start. Yes, no, that movie is so fun.

[00:57:58] It's just a great, just like psychological thriller where you're just kind of like, it does a good job of placing you in Michael Douglas shoes where you're like as confused as he is and you're like as stressed out as he is. Yeah, it's really, really fun.

[00:58:09] I remember specifically just getting very excited when James Rapphorn showed up because I was like, yeah, it's Rapphorn baby. Let's go. Yeah, I mean, just down to like when it first starts like the game with like the waitress spilling the drink on him.

[00:58:23] And she gets fired and he's like chases her out into the alleyway of the restaurant to like try to explain like, I'm sorry this whole thing. And then the guy falls down and has a heart attack in the alleyway next to them.

[00:58:33] And then they get in the ambulance and then they get to the hospital and then the lights go out and everybody scatters and you're just like, what is this game? What is gonna be happening? If these are the levels we're at at the beginning

[00:58:43] and then it just goes a million miles an hour from there. It's so much fun. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, that's the game. And yeah, it's on the criterion disc. I think it kind of comes on and off the criterion channel every once in a while.

[00:58:55] So yeah, worth watching. And I think a lot of people for a lot of people that's like the David Fincher blind spot a little bit. Like it's a movie he made in between Seven and Fight Club. Right, it's other movie. Right.

[00:59:07] And yeah, I think it belongs right up there in the conversation with Seven and Fight Club in the Fincher Uvra. Yeah, absolutely. And then of course you watched David Fincher's newest film, right Mike? Yes, The Killer dropped on Netflix two weeks ago last week. November 10th I think.

[00:59:22] Yeah, remember third maybe? Yeah, something like that. November 10th, yeah, 10th. And yeah, we were, I was chilling with my friend and somebody was like, you ever hear this, you ever heard about this movie, The Killer? And I was like, why is it out?

[00:59:32] And he's like, yeah, it's on Netflix right now. I was like, what are we doing? Let's go. And everyone just turned the table over and exactly like that. The Chappelle show thing when he knocks the pitcher of water over. Right. Basically is what I did.

[00:59:44] And yeah, so then we sat down and watched The Killer, Michael Fosvander as a professional assassin hangout movie. I don't really know how to describe this movie. It is not, you know, I mean, I watched, like I said, I watched the game

[00:59:55] like a couple days after I watched The Killer, but it's like so, like that's kind of what I thought The Killer was gonna be. Right. And The Killer is into it. Yeah, and I think The Killer is very different than what you expected to be, right? Yeah, absolutely.

[01:00:06] Like a comedy almost. Yeah. It's really funny. It's a very funny movie. It is absolutely, I think one of the reviews somewhere I saw is like it's the funniest movie with no jokes in it. And that's really how it feels. And yeah, it's just about Michael Fosvander

[01:00:21] on a job that goes wrong basically in the beginning and the first act and then the fallout therein. And it's a classic, you know, a hit man on a job that goes wrong movie. I'm kind of a thing. So it's a lot of the stuff you might expect

[01:00:32] in the double crosses and all that. But it's, yeah, it's really funny. It's like incredibly stylized to you. And I think it's really interesting to view it like your expectation of this movie is also what the main character thinks he is, which is I think the best part.

[01:00:50] Yes. I think the reason why, I mean, I think this movie does sort of have jokes in it, but it's more just like you're hearing a lot of it is just Michael Fosvander on an extreme of consciousness like narration that's happening, which almost feels like a parody

[01:01:03] of the narration from Fight Club. I think you're 100% right. Right? Yeah, I think you're out of something. You know, where he's just always like, ah, these peons, I'm so much better than everybody else kind of thing. Just making fun of like, oh, enjoy your wordle.

[01:01:17] Like that's like, I'm Jack's Seething Rage or whatever, like all that shit from Fight Club. One of my favorite lines in this is he's like, I think he's like on the run doing something and was like, okay, I gotta think like, WWJWBD, what would John looks booth do?

[01:01:31] Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, it's like, have you ever seen, have you ever seen Les Samurai? Yes, yeah. And it's like, that's what he thinks he is. Right. But there's, Elaine Delon in that movie is so quiet. Like he almost never talks in the whole movie

[01:01:48] and in this movie Michael Fosvander's characters won't stop talking. Yes. It's so funny. And I mean, but honestly, when there is action and stuff like that fight, the fist fight scene is incredible. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah. So like it is simultaneously this kind of like

[01:02:03] deconstruction of like the Hitman movie, but also a really good one too. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I actually, I got the chance to watch this in a theater, which I think most people are not gonna get the chance to do and I was almost,

[01:02:14] I almost didn't, I was really annoyed about it. So the killer opened at the Roxy, the Indy Theater and the Manuscript of the Montana where I also work and it opened on November 3rd and I was in New York at that time.

[01:02:27] And so I was busy with my mom's party and I couldn't go see it. And yeah, got back on like Tuesday and we only had the movie for a week because it was hit Netflix that Friday. And so on Thursday morning,

[01:02:39] I came in to work early at like 10 a.m. and watched The Killer in the theater by myself just before work started, before I had to do anything for work. And so that's what I ended up doing. And I'm glad I did because yeah,

[01:02:51] the sound design in this movie is so great. Like the sound is so good. And I think it's a really entertaining movie. I did feel like, I was like, ah, you know, I think maybe because it was different from what I was expecting it to be.

[01:03:01] Like it felt a little bit off to me. But I did wonder and I think, I feel pretty confident in saying this. I think if I watched The Killer again, I'm gonna really love it. Like I feel like if I watch, give it a second watch,

[01:03:13] I'm gonna be like really on board like team killer, like all the way, you know? And yeah, and also Tilda Swinton makes brief parents in this movie and her scenes are in Beacon, New York, although not actually shot in Beacon, New York

[01:03:24] and that was kind of a bummer. Yeah, yeah. And then Charles Parnell is in this movie too. The guy from Top Gun Maverick who goes, yeah. Does the fist bump. Does the fist bump. Yes. And I did that fist bump myself

[01:03:34] when I saw him pop up on screen. So yeah. He's great too. That's what he shows up. Yeah. And I just love, I love all the like, yeah, the rules that he has for himself and all this stuff. And then he's just like not,

[01:03:44] if he doesn't follow a single one ever. Yes. So good. The Killer baby. Yeah, The Killer. It is on Netflix right now. And yeah, it's a new fincher. Go watch it. Yeah, it's pretty good. Way better than Mank, gotta say. I mean, I'm pretty high on Mank.

[01:03:57] I liked Mank but... Yeah. But I just had to get a dig on Mank, sorry. Yeah, fair enough. I know you were not as big on Mank as I was. I got two more movies to talk about, Mike, before we wrap this up.

[01:04:10] First of which is a new Indian action movie called Jawan and I think in our last discussions episode I talked about Pathan. Yes. Which is also a new Indian action movie. Both of these movies feature Shahrukh Khan in the lead role, Shahrukh Khan

[01:04:25] who is India's biggest action star. And this is like his first attempt at making action movies. He's never made an action movie before this year. And now he's had Pathan and Jawan. And I think they are both about equal in terms of quality.

[01:04:38] I might like Jawan a little bit more just on a storytelling level. I think Pathan has a lot more action in it and the action is suitably insane. But the action in Jawan when it's there is also pretty insane. And it's a really insane movie.

[01:04:52] It's incredibly convoluted and wild. It's almost three hours long like many Indian movies are. And it stars Shahrukh Khan as this prison warden who runs like this women's prison. All the women in the prison love him. They're big fans of Shahrukh Khan as the prison warden.

[01:05:08] And he's also using them to facilitate these attacks. He is secretly like attacking like, you know various things throughout Indian cities in order to make the government give him money so that he can then disperse it to the poor.

[01:05:20] Like to the farmers who are being abused by the society. Right? And so the first like 40 minutes of this movie is like a taking of Pelham one, two, three thing where he holds a train hostage and he gets all the money from the government.

[01:05:32] And then he like gives the money to like a thousand Indian farmers who were like on the verge of killing themselves because if they kill themselves they get money from the government to that they can give to their families. It's like a whole wild backwards system.

[01:05:45] And so that's all going on. Meanwhile, Shahrukh Khan is also playing his own father who has amnesia and doesn't know that he has a son. And but his father is like a soldier from way back who got lost in a village and he became this village's messiah.

[01:06:04] And so there's like these gang wars that are happening that are trying to take down prison warden Shahrukh Khan because of all the money he's stealing from the government. Also he's getting married and the woman he's marrying is the woman from the government is hunting him down

[01:06:17] and she doesn't know it. There's a lot of stuff going on. All I could think of is Shirley in community just being like, okay, Charlie Kaufman, I get it but some of us have work in the morning. Correct. So yeah, it's an incredibly convoluted movie.

[01:06:33] The action is awesome. It's really fun. And I think it's a really, it's a really fun movie to watch. It's a good time. And there's a few, you know, dance song sequences which are also pretty fun. Ever since Triple R, I've been like trying to chase the high

[01:06:47] of that movie with the Indian action and I've kind of dipped my toe into it with the Pathan and Jawan. Both movies I enjoyed, they're not quite Triple R but they are very good. Nice. And I was kind of wondering like, man,

[01:06:58] how would this play if it was in a theater? Like if I played this for Inferno of Danger, would people react to it the way I want them to react? I don't know. Well, I may see what happens there. Interesting. But yeah, Jawan, it's worth watching

[01:07:09] and it's on Netflix right now in the original Hindi. It's a Hindi language movie. So yeah, check it out there. And then I have one more movie to talk about here which just came out this weekend. It is the newest Hunger Games movie,

[01:07:20] The Hunger Games, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. And Hunger Games, man, it's back, baby. In a big way. In a big way. Yeah, I was never like the biggest Hunger Games guy but I did read those books and watch those movies.

[01:07:33] Like I saw them all and you know, I was always kind of like, yeah, they're pretty good. They're fine. Like I didn't love them but I was like, oh, they're solid. I remember specifically really liking Makinjay Part One. I thought that was a pretty good movie.

[01:07:46] Makinjay Part Two, awful. I remember that one being pretty bad. I couldn't tell you what the difference was. Well, one was Part One and one was Part Two. Well, that's right there at the title, you're right. Yeah, no, but I remember liking the movies to a degree

[01:07:59] but I also have not gone back to revisit them at all. Like I left The Hunger Games behind. It was not a franchise that I felt all that attached to. And so The Hunger Games, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes is coming out.

[01:08:11] I wasn't really looking forward to it but I actually heard pretty solid things leading up to it. Like critical reviews were like, you know, pretty good. And my girlfriend wanted to see it. So we went to go see The Hunger Games, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.

[01:08:22] It's about as good as the other ones. It's fine. It's an okay time. Fair enough. This one stars Rachel Zegler who I like a lot from the West Side Story remake and she plays Lucy Gray-Baird. This is a prequel that takes place,

[01:08:34] you know, many years before the original movies. I think the original movie is like the 74th Hunger Games and this one is the 10th. So The Hunger Games is like still a relatively new phenomenon within the world of Pan Am

[01:08:48] and it's in danger of like not catching on. Like it's in danger of like not being like, you know the tradition, like the capital wants it to be. And so this movie is really the origin story of President Snow who is Donald Sutherland's character in the original series.

[01:09:02] The main bad guy who was played by Tom Blight in this movie and it's about kind of his relationship with Rachel Zegler. Rachel Zegler is a tribute who has to compete in the Hunger Games. He is her mentor and you know, he's like, you know

[01:09:13] this rich snob who comes from the capital but he falls in love with her and they have a sort of relationship but he ultimately goes to look at Anakin Skywalker-esque arc and ultimately becomes, you know the overall bad guy of the series as the movie goes on.

[01:09:27] Movie solid. It's, you know, the actual Hunger Games part of it. It takes place in three parts and The Hunger Games is the second part and that stuff is pretty good. I like watching kids kill each other. You gotta say. That around, right there. Yeah, exactly.

[01:09:41] That's fun stuff. You know, people kept telling me like, oh man this movie is like more brutal than the other ones and I was like, is it? I don't know. Doesn't seem that bad. But I also think, you know, people who like,

[01:09:53] you know a lot of people who watch The Hunger Games movies maybe don't watch a lot of more brutal movies than that, you know. Yeah, fair. I mean, that's fair. Those are pretty sanitized from what I remember. I mean, I also didn't read the books

[01:10:03] but I don't remember them being particularly graphic or anything. Right, but I think just the idea of like kids killing each other is it's, you know that's a lot that's heavy. For sure. But also, you know, I've seen way worse. You know, I've seen Battle Royale.

[01:10:17] Yeah, I've seen Come and See. I can handle The Hunger Games. Exactly. And so, yes, the actual games are pretty fun. I think the lead up to it's fine. The end of it, it sort of feels like a movie that like weirdly maybe could have been two movies.

[01:10:32] Like it feels like the ending feels rushed. I think the last third of it feels like it could have been stretched out into two. And you know, that's one of those things where like I don't want to advocate for that.

[01:10:39] Like I think that really hurt the Mockingjay movie. You know, but in this case, maybe it could have worked. There was enough here for it to maybe do two but you know, it is what it is. They did one and I'm sure they could make more

[01:10:53] if they wanted to. I know this is actually based on a book that was released a few years after the book series. So there was like a text for it and I don't think there's anything else beyond that. Wow, surprised. Yeah, me too a little bit.

[01:11:05] But yeah, it's an okay time. I had a fine time watching The Hunger Games, the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. It is two hours and 40 minutes. Woof. Which is a lot for a Hunger Games movie, I think. And I told that to my girlfriend.

[01:11:17] She wanted to see it but she was like, oh wait, how long is it? And I was like, I looked it up. Oh, it's two hours and 40 minutes. And she was like, what? Why is it so long? And I was like, this is a whole ballad

[01:11:26] of Songbirds and Snakes we have to go through. Yeah, you have to throw everything on that. This isn't just some diddy of Songbirds and Snakes. We had to go through the whole ballad. I mean, that's a half hour shorter than Killers of the Flower Moon, right?

[01:11:38] Just about an hour shorter than Killers of the Flower Moon. Killers of the Flower Moon, three and a half hours, but way better, very well worth it. Yeah, Hunger Games, if you like the Hunger Games movies, you will probably enjoy Hunger Games, Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes,

[01:11:51] but it really truly did feel like weirdly heavily influenced by the Star Wars prequels. Wild. So just what an era we're living in, you know? Yeah, I got nothing. You know, we got the people that, when George Lucas was making Star Wars,

[01:12:06] he's referencing, you know, the Akira Kurosawa movies and stuff, and now people growing up are referencing the prequels. They're in Star Wars. Cool, I guess. Yes, I mean, we still have Matt Rees making his apocalypse now, Planet of the Apes. True. That's a good point. There's that.

[01:12:24] But all right, so that thing that's gonna wrap up discussions this week, Mike. Yeah, we talked about a lot of stuff. We certainly did, yeah, that was a lot of stuff to get through. So Mike D, where can we find you on land this week?

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[01:13:22] It is time for that Mike Makes Mike Watch. I am making Mike D watch Francis Ha, which of course is directed by Noah Bombeck, co-written by Noah Bombeck and Greta Gerwig, starring Greta Gerwig. Mike D just on a Greta Gerwig kick lately. I made him watch Lady Bird,

[01:13:37] he watched Barbie of his own accord and now he'll get to watch Francis Ha, which I think is the best of those three movies. Interesting, yeah, also around that time of Barbie slash, I think when we watched Lady Bird, there was a screen drafts episode

[01:13:50] for all of Greta Gerwig's directorial movie? No, just anything that she was in actually. And yeah, so then I was like, huh, let me download all these movies. So I've got a bunch of Gerwig in the queue. I haven't gotten any of those other ones yet, but.

[01:14:02] Nice, Mistress America is actually my favorite. So that's well worth watching that too. If you happen to, if you want to do a double feature of Francis Ha and Mistress America, I won't stop you. Okay. Yeah. And then I'm making you watch Ravinous, finally it's happening.

[01:14:17] I am very excited about this. I believe it's on the Criterion channel now, which is cool. It might be in like the nineties horror, although no something, I don't know. It's on there somewhere. Somewhere in there, yeah. But yeah, I know you've been talking to this movie

[01:14:29] for a couple of years now, I think. And you're a huge fan of Ravinous. You've seen it a couple of times, right? Yes, a handful of times. I almost came to Montana just to see Ravinous in theaters that one time. Right.

[01:14:40] And then we ultimately did not get to play it. So it's a good thing you got sick that weekend, I think. Yes, that was it. I got sick, yeah. Right. You got sick like a day before you were supposed to come out and then we ultimately couldn't play

[01:14:51] Ravinous that weekend. I think because there was no, like there was no easy way to get it or it was so expensive that we couldn't play it. Yeah, something weird. We were supposed to play Ravinous for Trashfall and instead we played Boarding House,

[01:15:03] which I went to go see Boarding House and man, I'm really glad you didn't fly out for Boarding House. It would have been hilarious. But then I made it for a campfire, so it all worked out. Exactly, yes. So yeah, Ravinous and Francis Han next week.

[01:15:16] In the meantime, the complete works just did our episode on a haunting in Venice, which of course is the final Michelin-yo movie of the regular season. Next week, it is the epic Michelin-yo finale episode. We made it. We did it. The big grand countdown episode,

[01:15:32] lots of reminiscing, lots of different categories. It's a good episode. Yes, it feels like just yesterday that we were doing the season two finale, right? Doesn't it? Oh, I thought you were gonna say that we recorded it. I mean, it literally was just yesterday

[01:15:46] that we recorded the season three finale. I thought you were doing a goof. No, I meant literally, like it doesn't feel like that much time has passed. No, I mean, yeah, because I think just over a year and coming up on two years,

[01:15:58] I guess, since we actually finished Goldbloom, but yeah, like last spring 2022, we wrapped up Goldbloom, which is crazy. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, Michelin-yo finale coming at you next week and that was the end of this week's episode of Michael McGill to the Movies.

[01:16:12] We will see you on the other side.