Off Mike - Love Lies Bleeding, Hundreds of Beavers, Orphan, and more!

[00:00:00] Let's get together, talk about the movies that we saw this week. We'll have discussions,

[00:00:05] talk film news, we'll laugh a lot, and act like Jesus.

[00:00:07] And I'll have a guest or two, some kind, it's just the two of us.

[00:00:09] I'll specks up jokes and tell some folks to come along and hang with us!

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[00:00:24] You will have chosen wise.

[00:00:28] Hello and welcome to the podcast with Better Roundhouse Kicks than any other podcast in

[00:00:33] the business. It's Mike and Michael My Go To The Movies. I'm Mike Smith and join me

[00:00:36] as always is a man up against the elements and a cartoonish amount of beavers.

[00:00:40] Mike, I appreciate it.

[00:00:42] How do you do it, Mike?

[00:00:43] You know, if me always, I was going to make a weird joke and I don't like it anymore.

[00:00:48] Great, the work I'm wearing has this.

[00:00:49] I'm going to pull the cord on that one.

[00:00:51] That's going to rip cord right on the right way.

[00:00:53] Yeah, I'm good working on my roundhouse.

[00:00:56] How are you?

[00:00:57] Good.

[00:00:58] Good!

[00:00:59] Yeah, what's been going on in the life of Mike DeCriscio?

[00:01:02] Not a whole lot.

[00:01:03] Starting to look at computer upgrades because that's the thing you have to think about

[00:01:07] when you have a computer like a piece that you do gaming on a computer.

[00:01:11] Right.

[00:01:12] And you're like this is apart from three years ago.

[00:01:13] Push-on!

[00:01:14] Garbage!

[00:01:15] Trash!

[00:01:16] You're like what?

[00:01:17] Yeah.

[00:01:18] So that's my life.

[00:01:19] Cool.

[00:01:20] Yeah, no.

[00:01:21] Pretty much the same.

[00:01:22] We're gearing up for the Wildlife Film Festival at the Roxy.

[00:01:25] So that's been eating up a lot of time with the last few weeks kind of that coming together,

[00:01:30] which has been cool to see.

[00:01:32] Always a fun time if anybody wants to come out for the Wild Walk on Saturday the 20th.

[00:01:37] That festival always kicks off with a parade in downtown Missoula where like thousands

[00:01:42] of people are dressed as animals.

[00:01:43] It's a wild time.

[00:01:44] It's a very busy day.

[00:01:45] We're really relevant to one of your discussions I think.

[00:01:47] Yes, actually.

[00:01:49] That is 100% true.

[00:01:52] Yeah, so we're kind of doing a lot of work at Matt together but yeah otherwise Sam old

[00:01:56] stuff working watching movies.

[00:01:58] Doing the thing?

[00:01:59] Hell yeah.

[00:02:00] Living the dream.

[00:02:01] Yeah.

[00:02:02] And so today it's an off mic discussions episode.

[00:02:04] We're just talking about some of the stuff that we have been watching recently.

[00:02:08] So let's get right into it Mike.

[00:02:09] It's time for some discussions.

[00:02:11] All right, Sam for some discussions here on Mike and Mike go to the movies.

[00:02:33] Mike D what are you even watching recently?

[00:02:35] I have two Oscar movie catch ups to best pictures that I finally watched or best picture

[00:02:43] nobody's.

[00:02:44] That's the final.

[00:02:45] And that is Jonathan Glazer's zone of interest is the first one that I want to talk about

[00:02:50] which just holdy shit, you know, it's just one of those.

[00:02:53] It's just like a real movie, a real film.

[00:02:57] Yeah, that's crazy.

[00:02:58] That movie.

[00:02:59] Yeah, and I feel like everybody is about this about the common don of Auschwitz and his

[00:03:06] wife and children and they live in their house right next door outside the walls of the

[00:03:10] camp.

[00:03:11] And it's just about the day to day life of them.

[00:03:14] And yeah, I don't it's just one of those.

[00:03:16] It's a baffling like achievement in art when you really think about it like having it

[00:03:21] just start.

[00:03:22] And I think you even told me about this.

[00:03:23] I kind of forgot that it just starts with like three or four minutes of just a black screen

[00:03:27] with the overture, like no image.

[00:03:29] Yeah.

[00:03:30] And that like some theaters had to like have a sign on the door or whatever.

[00:03:33] Like this is good.

[00:03:34] Do not come tell us we know like this is supposed to happen.

[00:03:39] And that and then there's sequences that are in thermal vision and it's like some really

[00:03:43] experimental stuff and like the camera going into a flower and showing you like what

[00:03:48] that world is, whatever and stuff like that on top of all the other stuff that everyone

[00:03:52] need out the discussions on the sound design and everything's just like an incredible

[00:03:56] movie.

[00:03:57] And yeah, seeing some of the I guess blowback or pushback or whatever that this music gets

[00:04:02] to some backlash.

[00:04:03] Backlash is maybe the word yeah.

[00:04:05] Yeah, which it's backlash really the movie itself.

[00:04:07] I don't think really had any backlash until it won Best International feature in Jonathan

[00:04:11] Glazer out of speech.

[00:04:12] Then I think there was a slight backlash but it was incredibly misguided backlash I think.

[00:04:16] Yeah.

[00:04:17] Yeah.

[00:04:18] And and also like the people I saw at the particular one article I think was in the Hollywood

[00:04:21] reporter or something that people posted and it was like a guy analyzing that like

[00:04:26] there was really it doesn't say this the movie like this is not the movies point or whatever

[00:04:31] which you know it reflecting on the movie itself reflects on modern day genocides that are

[00:04:36] happening and then sent the way evil in the creeping fascism and all this stuff.

[00:04:41] Right.

[00:04:42] And it's like the person it must have been the first movie they've ever watched.

[00:04:45] Like I don't understand.

[00:04:46] There's one scene.

[00:04:47] There's one scene and the whole beauty of zone of interest is that it's all I don't

[00:04:52] even want to say implied like what's going on in Auschwitz because you hear it.

[00:04:56] The whole movie you hear constant gunshots.

[00:04:58] You hear screaming.

[00:04:59] You hear the the growing of a furnace like you hear everything going on and the other side

[00:05:04] of that wall that these people are just completely ignoring.

[00:05:07] And the scene in particular that I saw was it's where the father and the two kids like go

[00:05:12] out fly fishing in the river.

[00:05:13] All right.

[00:05:14] And they're like kind of having a summer day and then the river turns like an ash in gray

[00:05:19] like a cloud of ash comes down on hit like while he's fly fishing.

[00:05:22] Right.

[00:05:23] He's done something and bends down it picks it up and it's like a jawbone or whatever.

[00:05:27] And then they panic and he's freaking out and he gets the you know, and it's them.

[00:05:31] They cuts to them at home scrubbing in the bath and the bath has got the line of the dirt

[00:05:35] and all you know, you like we all know what that is.

[00:05:39] And the person in the article was like well if I hadn't known outside like outside knowledge

[00:05:43] of what happened in history the movie doesn't set up enough to tell you and it's like

[00:05:47] have you I don't think you know that if you show images in a certain sequence in a movie

[00:05:52] they convey meaning like I don't understand like you should have this outside knowledge

[00:05:56] anyway.

[00:05:57] And on top of that, that movie tells you anyway.

[00:06:00] Very crazy.

[00:06:02] So yeah, I don't know the movie is working with your outside knowledge that everyone

[00:06:06] has.

[00:06:07] Correct.

[00:06:08] Well, it was the most baffling thing ever and it's like such a mindy single thing to

[00:06:11] single out but I just blew my mind.

[00:06:14] And I forget what we talked about.

[00:06:15] I know the movie recently maybe even do actually think I was doing too.

[00:06:18] Actually it was pretty circling about just like oh, this is just proved that media

[00:06:21] literacy is at zero.

[00:06:23] Nobody knows how to inter like interface with a piece of art.

[00:06:27] So yeah, it's absolutely incredible and to complete my Sandra Hewler double feature

[00:06:32] I also watched anatomy of a fall.

[00:06:35] Nice which is fucking amazing.

[00:06:36] I don't also amazing like a three hour you know who I was going to say who done it but

[00:06:43] not really.

[00:06:44] A courtroom drama.

[00:06:45] Courroom drama.

[00:06:46] Yeah.

[00:06:47] Half a courtroom drama for short of this couple and the man falls dice in mystery

[00:06:51] story.

[00:06:52] He's definitely fallen off a balcony.

[00:06:53] You don't know how.

[00:06:54] How are why and died her husband, Sandra Hewler's character's husband and then it's the

[00:07:00] ensuing courtroom trial of that and yeah, French court is insane I guess it seems like there's

[00:07:06] no rules.

[00:07:07] It's anarchy which is so much fun to watch.

[00:07:11] Yeah, it's crazy.

[00:07:12] Everyone could just be sassy a little sassy and yeah they're all just arguing with each

[00:07:17] other in the openly arguing in court which is crazy.

[00:07:20] And yeah, there's something so anxiety inducing in most of these court room scenes where maybe

[00:07:27] you could bring this like American legal system thing to this where it's like oh of course

[00:07:33] the prosecutors and police and forensics and everybody are going to just lie to get

[00:07:38] the conviction.

[00:07:39] It's all about the batting average.

[00:07:41] And the way that what's the fray I forget the like turn of phrase or whatever it's like

[00:07:46] when you look at something through like a keyhole that's all you see right and that's

[00:07:49] basically what you're looking at an entire marriage and relationship in the context

[00:07:54] of this like 30 second event.

[00:07:56] And then you lose all the other years and years and years of context behind that and

[00:08:01] the way that somebody might bring up something in the middle of an argument specifically to

[00:08:04] hurt somebody else.

[00:08:05] And now it's being used as proof of a murder like in a court room right in transcript of

[00:08:11] courtroom and stuff.

[00:08:12] And yeah, I don't know just all that very, very interesting fascinating and Sandra Hewler's

[00:08:15] amazing.

[00:08:16] The place where lawyers also incredible have never seen him in anything that I'm aware

[00:08:20] of.

[00:08:21] So yeah, both both really high up there incredible movies and I think maybe probably hold

[00:08:25] over still my favorite of the year.

[00:08:27] Okay.

[00:08:28] Just because it's a little more warm.

[00:08:30] Yeah, it's a little more fun.

[00:08:32] So I'm interested in having a follow up with very dark movies.

[00:08:35] Yeah, very intense movies with a lot of acting.

[00:08:38] But yeah, great both really great movies and I'm glad I finally get around to nice.

[00:08:44] Yeah, I'm glad you watched them and enjoyed them as much as you did.

[00:08:46] Yeah, I think both those movies are terrific.

[00:08:47] I think zone of interest especially is a movie that you know, I saw it for the first

[00:08:51] time and I liked it quite a bit but I think it's really grown with me.

[00:08:54] So like just kind of sitting with it for a while.

[00:08:56] Yeah, you know, I think it's really just like it's and that last like 10 minutes of

[00:09:00] the movie like the last shot.

[00:09:01] It's like just really like I was like stoned into silence walking out of that theater

[00:09:05] or I was like I couldn't believe what I had just seen.

[00:09:07] So yeah, both great movies.

[00:09:09] I'm glad you really dug them.

[00:09:10] I have two new releases that I wanted to talk about Mike.

[00:09:12] I did a double feature on Sunday.

[00:09:14] Oh.

[00:09:15] I haven't done like a you know, go to the movies do a double feature in a while but

[00:09:19] I did one this past weekend and the first movie I went to go see was Love Lies Bleeding

[00:09:24] which is the new movie directed by Rose Glass who made Saint Maud which I know you were

[00:09:28] a big fan of right Mike.

[00:09:29] Yes, I was just thinking about because Rose Glass was actually on movies that made me recently

[00:09:34] okay.

[00:09:35] And I was thinking about Saint Maud as like maybe one of the most visceral or having a single

[00:09:41] moment that is the most visceral like fighter flight reaction I've ever had from a movie.

[00:09:45] If you remember that one jump scare with like the old lady or whatever and like the way

[00:09:52] that that like literally full like fighter flight response, I've never had that happen in

[00:09:56] a movie before.

[00:09:57] Right.

[00:09:58] Anyways, like Saint Maud I guess.

[00:10:00] Yes.

[00:10:01] So Love Lies Bleeding is not a horror movie in the van of Saint Maud it's a crime thriller

[00:10:05] starring Kristen Stewart and Katie O'Brien.

[00:10:07] And Kristen Stewart, it takes place in the 80s like nice and 89.

[00:10:11] Katie O'Brien is this sort of drifter that comes into town and she's a body builder and

[00:10:16] she's like kind of stopping in a town kind of work for a month on her way to Las Vegas

[00:10:20] to compete in a bodybuilding competition when she gets into town.

[00:10:22] She meets Kristen Stewart, the two of them fall in love and their love kind of spirals

[00:10:27] into violence that like Kristen Stewart is part of this like her father is the head of

[00:10:32] this sort of crime syndicates.

[00:10:34] Her father is Ad Harris.

[00:10:36] And Ed Harris is just so even like deviously evil in this movie, which is really terrific

[00:10:40] just really grimy and gross.

[00:10:42] He eats a bug at one point and all that stuff.

[00:10:46] But yeah, and so it's a little bit of blood simple.

[00:10:49] It's a little bit of bound.

[00:10:50] It's a little bit of lost highway.

[00:10:52] It's a little bit of Angleys Hulk in there too.

[00:10:55] It's a movie that is really confident in the shirt of itself and be two leads Kristen Stewart

[00:11:00] and Katie O'Brien are so great.

[00:11:01] I mean, Kristen Stewart really expect to be great at this point.

[00:11:04] Like she's always good and everything she does and she's great in this movie.

[00:11:07] Katie O'Brien is like a discovery for me.

[00:11:10] I've seen her in a couple of things.

[00:11:11] She was in the Mandalorian and she was in Ant-Man 3 and a couple of things but this is

[00:11:16] like, okay, now I've noticed her.

[00:11:19] Now I really have a really full glimpse of her as an actor and she's just such a great

[00:11:23] discovery for this movie and it's really fun.

[00:11:26] I really, really dug a lot of lives bleeding.

[00:11:29] The ending I think has rubbed some people the wrong way.

[00:11:32] I think the ending is something that you have to go with.

[00:11:35] I think it ultimately works but it takes this sort of like fantastical approach to what

[00:11:40] is happening and I think some viewers are like, hmm, I don't know about that.

[00:11:46] I thought it worked though.

[00:11:47] That's fair.

[00:11:48] I haven't seen this yet.

[00:11:49] I do know how it ends which unfortunately.

[00:11:50] Oh, you do.

[00:11:51] Or the seeing that happens but I would say see also St. Mod for same...

[00:11:55] Yeah, similar vibe, absolutely.

[00:11:58] I liked St. Mod but didn't love it.

[00:12:02] It was like, I thought it was pretty good.

[00:12:04] It had some great moments.

[00:12:05] I thought Morphic Clark was really great in that movie.

[00:12:08] Maybe that was just because it was a COVID release and it was like, oh, I'm watching it

[00:12:10] at my house and it's still light outside while I'm watching it or whatever it was.

[00:12:14] But yeah, I liked St. Mod, didn't love it but I really, really dug a lot of lives bleeding.

[00:12:18] I think it's like a step up in terms of her glass as a filmmaker and I'm excited to see

[00:12:22] what she does next.

[00:12:23] I think it's really cool.

[00:12:24] But yeah, so I really enjoyed a lot of lives bleeding and I did a double feature of that

[00:12:28] movie with the movie that I'm most excited to talk about.

[00:12:31] Go on.

[00:12:32] So after I saw Love Lies bleeding, I went over to the Roxy Annex and I watched a movie

[00:12:35] that I had heard a little bit about.

[00:12:38] Like I had seen like a couple people talk about it online.

[00:12:40] Not that much though but from what I had heard I was like, oh yeah, this seems like

[00:12:45] really positive and recently Letterbox posted their list of the highest rated 2024 movies

[00:12:52] so far.

[00:12:53] Like movies with the highest average rating so far.

[00:12:55] All the people who've watched them.

[00:12:56] Number one is Dune Part Two.

[00:12:58] Number two is this movie, Hundreds of Beaver.

[00:13:03] Wow.

[00:13:05] And so I saw hundreds of beavers on Sunday which is a new movie directed by Mike Cheslik

[00:13:11] and this movie is unlike anything out there right now.

[00:13:14] I loved this movie so, so much.

[00:13:17] It is my favorite movie of the year right now.

[00:13:19] I think it has good chance of being my favorite movie of the year at the end of the year.

[00:13:24] It's really, really, it's terrific.

[00:13:25] So you're like sort of familiar with this right Mike but not really.

[00:13:28] I think mostly entitled only and probably because of that Letterbox thing but I don't even

[00:13:33] really know where until I saw you posting about it.

[00:13:36] Okay, so hundreds of beavers is a black and white dialogue free film.

[00:13:41] There's no dialogue in it.

[00:13:43] There is a lot of sound effects and wacky score and all that kind of stuff but it is an

[00:13:47] hour and 45 minute slapstick comedy like Loonie Tunes cartoon.

[00:13:51] It's live action but it's basically it's about this guy.

[00:13:55] He's like an Applejack salesman or whatever.

[00:13:57] He like works in Applejack factory.

[00:13:59] It's like a frontiersman and he's like a drunkard and one day he's like rolling down

[00:14:04] a hill on a barrel and he destroys the Applejack factory and so he's stuck in the wilderness

[00:14:09] like having to survive only on his wits and is trying to kill animals to eat to survive

[00:14:15] but of course the animals keep getting the upper hand on him in classic Loonie Tunes fashion.

[00:14:19] This movie it operates on like Wiley Coyote Roadrunner Logic.

[00:14:23] It also operates in like old Buster Keaton silent films Logic.

[00:14:26] There's like a video game logic kind of thrown in there too.

[00:14:29] I was just going to say thank God you just watched all those Buster Keaton movies.

[00:14:32] I think it really prepared me for hundreds of beavers.

[00:14:34] Yeah, yeah and so basically the idea the loose plot of this movie is that he's you know

[00:14:40] in the he's in the woods doing his thing he finds like a storefront that will like trade him goods

[00:14:46] for animal pelt and so he goes to the storefront every once in a while.

[00:14:50] The storefront owner has a daughter and he has to woo the daughter like he's like falling

[00:14:55] in love with the daughter but the storefront owner does not approve this and the ultimate

[00:14:59] of at the end of the movie is if you bring me hundreds of beavers you can marry my daughter

[00:15:04] and so throughout the movie like you're watching him kind of become better and better as a hunter

[00:15:09] and by the way I haven't mentioned this yet all of the animals in the movie are people in mascot

[00:15:13] costumes like they're all incredible. They're all people like in full size like human size animal

[00:15:19] costumes and there's hundreds of them. There's so many of them. There's hundreds of beavers

[00:15:23] and but there's also rabbits and there's raccoons and there's coyotes and dogs

[00:15:28] and it just has so much fun with the premise and it's one of those things which was like okay

[00:15:33] it's dialogue free it's all slapstick comedy how can this possibly sustain an hour in 45 minutes

[00:15:39] but it does and it like really like builds and builds to like this really insane climax

[00:15:44] and all of the gags are so inspired and funny and there's stuff that like you would expect to see

[00:15:49] in a loony tunes cartoon like when he's trying to distract the bunny by creating a girl snowman

[00:15:53] bunny or something or like there's you know cardboard like a cardboard storefront that falls on his face

[00:15:58] or all all that kind of stuff it's like all classic you know gags from old 1930s shorts and cartoons

[00:16:05] repurposed for like a modern age and it's so so good I loved this movie so much I've been telling

[00:16:10] everybody I know it goes see hundreds of beavers dancing cron it's fantastic I love this movie

[00:16:16] I highly recommend checking it out if it's playing in a theater near you I know it's it's gaining traction

[00:16:21] like people have found this which is cool but yeah right now this is my favorite movie of 2024

[00:16:27] and like I said I think that's a good chance of remaining my favorite movie of 2024 my letterbox

[00:16:31] review was like this is the best loony tunes movie since Gremlins 2 and I stand by and I think it's

[00:16:37] great that's amazing yeah I had no idea I think I saw your I think the poster or whatever you

[00:16:42] tweeted the picture of yeah and it was like what is like it's almost like a courtroom drama

[00:16:46] whatever but it's all there's a whole sequence towards the end where the beavers put the man on

[00:16:54] you know I'm happy I asked yeah I don't know what I expected but yeah there's a Sherlock Holmes

[00:17:00] beaver he has like the mustache and the hat amazing it's fantastic I must go see this movie immediately

[00:17:07] I highly recommend that you do if it's playing anywhere near you just like do drop whatever it is

[00:17:12] you're doing like cancel your plans I'll be right back like I got to go get a podcast later

[00:17:19] and I understand I get it that's good but yeah hundreds of beavers it rock so that was my double

[00:17:23] feature on Sunday it was loved by bleeding hundreds of beavers and that was a great double feature

[00:17:28] highly recommend doing that if you have the ability to do so like it sounds like you can't get

[00:17:32] more further apart than those two movies like they sound like they're just the polar opposites of

[00:17:37] the cinematic spectrum correct but in a way they they compliment each other perfectly I can't poetry

[00:17:44] right exactly yes but there you go so love wise wearing hundreds of beavers two new releases that

[00:17:52] are absolutely worth seeing what else you got in your list Mike continuing my actress focused

[00:17:58] double feature thread okay you know Sandra Hooler in Anatomy of Fall and Zone of Interest I

[00:18:04] also watched two movies starring Isabel Furman who I know that name you know that name because she's

[00:18:12] the the star of orphan and orphan first kill oh she's the little girl in the orphan so you could

[00:18:19] have just said you did an orphan double feature I could have said that but I felt like it was

[00:18:23] funnier to do this way fair enough yeah orphan was there's a recent episode of screen drafts where

[00:18:29] they did 2009 horror and orphan came up which is a movie that I remember coming out I was

[00:18:36] graduating high school 2009 and it was just like I'm beyond this I don't need tell us to

[00:18:41] lover myself to I'm too good for for these horror movies yes these horror cut two 10 years later

[00:18:48] and just a stack of vinegar syndrome here is yes it's under 100 eighties just please yeah

[00:18:55] and so I never got around to it and yes so I was like this this will be my chance I remember when

[00:18:59] orphan first kill came out a couple years ago I think it was two doesn't you that eventually came

[00:19:03] out and it was a first kill was like it was like 2020 wasn't it says 2002 on do you mean 22 22

[00:19:09] yes yeah it was like in the last couple years it's like yeah two less than two and before orphan came

[00:19:14] out which you know it is called first kill it is called first kill of 2022 is what I meant yeah

[00:19:20] it was like a covid directive streaming thing and their goods day and date release or whatever

[00:19:25] for streaming and theaters but yes so orphan one is insane but both of these movies are insane

[00:19:30] first off my have you seen both of the either of these movies I have seen the first orphan but not

[00:19:35] since like 2010 what I like I saw you know a rep like not in theaters but shortly afterwards like

[00:19:41] at a friend's house or something got and so I've seen orphan I remember the twist in orphan I know

[00:19:46] what happens in that movie I I meant to watch orphan first kill but my thing was like well I got

[00:19:52] to rewatch orphan before I do and then I never did and so I never saw or first care very fair

[00:19:57] yeah so watch definitely watch both of them orphan first kill has maybe one of the most insane

[00:20:03] twists revro promises or whatever that baby I'll talk about after we finish recording or whatever

[00:20:08] if you want to go but shit it's crazy and the same thing for orphan I mean orphan of course the whole

[00:20:14] story that I think everybody knows is is about for even plays this young Russian girl play who's

[00:20:20] adopted by Vera Farminga and Peter Sars guard which like really dates these this movie

[00:20:25] but they're both great I mean just that Vera for me is incredible you know really scream queen of

[00:20:31] the post two thousands yeah very very having of course the conjuring movies yeah the none movies which

[00:20:36] like I saw also conjuring movies but yeah she's in a lot and also this movie just on Wikipedia made

[00:20:42] me realize maybe I'm the stupidest man alive did you know that Vera Farminga and Taser Farminga

[00:20:47] are sisters oh no I thought Taser Farminga was her daughter I did too they have like a 17 year

[00:20:53] age gap they're like 10 there's like 10 of them or something and she's the youngest daughter

[00:20:58] and Vera for me goes the oldest daughter and I was like what the fuck I just assumed she was

[00:21:04] Vera for me is not 100% V2 so that was that's a fun film discovery for all of us yeah did not know

[00:21:09] that I mean I guess okay there's a 17 year gap I mean yeah okay it makes sense that they would

[00:21:13] be sisters I guess but yeah they look like they would just be mother in daughter right I mean Vera

[00:21:18] for me goes according to Wikipedia she is 50 years old Taser Farminga look I mean I know she's

[00:21:24] in the none movies I assumed she was in her early 20s yeah that this seems like the math worked

[00:21:28] out or it makes sense yeah be 30 and have a kid yeah anyway yeah so that's a fun little thing for

[00:21:34] everyone to go home with yeah that they're siblings but yeah and of course her name is Esther

[00:21:41] Isabelle Furman's character the young Russian girl gets is to begin to integrate herself into

[00:21:45] this family weird things starts happening Esther seems to know more than she should about being

[00:21:50] a person right you know she says fuck she's very funny what it happens in the movie and then

[00:21:55] her movie stuff she starts she's just like a slasher killer basically it turns out that she's

[00:21:59] actually like a 30 year old woman that has I mean whatever I guess this is a spoiler but every

[00:22:03] I feel like everybody knows this the whole point of watching this movie this is the twist of orphan

[00:22:07] so yeah I guess spoilers for orphan proceeding this warning yeah she's a older 30 year old woman

[00:22:13] that has like some hormone thing that makes her look like a child she stopped aging basically right

[00:22:18] and I know so when orphan came out Isabelle Furman was like 13 years old or something she was

[00:22:23] like 10 actually yeah I looked it up she's the age that Esther supposed to be yeah that she looks

[00:22:28] like which is what really sells this movie it's very funny right very tense and she like recruits

[00:22:34] the younger daughter to help her who's like six in the movie like the characters six and she's like

[00:22:39] a Benjamin for like for Esther it's very intense um and uh yeah there's a there's a line in

[00:22:46] the movie when they go to the orphanage to adopt her where the nun says oh yeah Esther was either

[00:22:52] I think adopted or no her her family died in house fire and that's why she's an orphan right

[00:22:59] so then orphan first kill is about that family and that house fire and okay oh yes yes

[00:23:05] and so it's very intense it's very funny uh it starts with her in the like mental institute where

[00:23:12] it's like the big reveal when Vera Farmer you're fine where she's from right uh in the first movie

[00:23:18] starts with her at that institute escaping that institute and it's literally her like searching

[00:23:22] like missing girls and finding one that she looks like and saying that's me I'm Esther

[00:23:29] and so uh it's her coming back to America she it's a you know girl that's gone missing at a very

[00:23:34] unlike five or whatever yeah a couple years later she could be 10 blah blah blah and it's her

[00:23:38] with that family which is played by uh I just have I have what's it called open letterbox open

[00:23:44] because I can't remember all I can think is Nikki Parsons Julius styles I got there Julius styles

[00:23:49] is the mom and uh Rossif Sutherland is the father who I don't recognize but he's very good in it

[00:23:55] and it is as is well firm in his back it's obviously like 15 years later or 10 years later

[00:24:00] whatever it is that that was always the thing that was like here I was curious about with first

[00:24:04] kills that this is a prequel that takes place before the first movie however isabel firmman is

[00:24:09] 15 years old like she's like in her 20s now right yeah it's yeah and that is maybe

[00:24:14] it's part of the charm it's part of the fun a little bit I think this movie first kill feels a lot

[00:24:20] it's easier than orphan I think interesting I don't it's it's got a thing going for it um

[00:24:26] they use I think uh they use force perspective for everything to make as well firm and look

[00:24:31] the same size uh but there is a lot of that is the back of a child wearing a black wig in like

[00:24:38] the white shots you know who's never facing the camera uh right a lot of stuff for and then the close

[00:24:43] ups are like just ester right yes he could not tell that she's the same height as chelous styles or

[00:24:48] whatever um so they have to do a lot more like filmmaking things which I applaud them not just

[00:24:53] CGing all this bullshit I guess you know like they actually went to the effort to do first

[00:24:57] perspective things and make house the rooms look bigger and stuff yeah um so that's cool uh

[00:25:02] and then it has a absolutely bat shit second act twist that is very funny uh that just like

[00:25:08] absolutely changes the whole interpretation of the movie which is fun so yeah I mean they're fun

[00:25:14] there it's if you're just in for like a basically two slasher movies with uh you know a 10 year old girl

[00:25:18] basically as the slasher uh check out orphan and orphan first kill okay nice uh yeah I will and I

[00:25:24] think they're both on no I think orphan is on hbomax and then uh first kill I think is to rent

[00:25:30] on prime or something okay I know first kill when it was released was like a paramount plus

[00:25:34] original I think oh maybe it is probably on paramount plus but nobody's got that yeah that's the

[00:25:39] thing I think I think it was gonna be a movie that was gonna go to theaters and then it ended up

[00:25:42] being straight-distributing or whatever it was yeah but yeah there you go orphan and orphan first

[00:25:46] kill I'm glad you enjoyed both Mike yeah I definitely I think my girlfriend actually ended up

[00:25:50] watching orphan first kill without me and I was like I came home and she had watched it and it's

[00:25:54] like what come on yeah it's it's got a lot of that uh like really funny prequel thing sometimes

[00:26:01] where you have to like you know hun solo or you have to like explain why a thing of and it's like

[00:26:07] so in orphan she does this like black light painting in the first one do you remember that at all

[00:26:11] right she I remember almost nothing about for orphan other than the twist she's got a she's a big

[00:26:16] paint she paints right that's like her whole thing she's a painter she loves to paint and uh she's

[00:26:20] great painter in the in the viral this stuff and then they have this fish tank with a black light

[00:26:25] in it in her room and uh they keep show her painting all this stuff and then the big like as the reveal

[00:26:31] is happening about Esther and like all this stuff in the first movie Peter Sarsgard goes in and hits

[00:26:35] the black light and notices like there's some paint on the wall or whatever like black light paint

[00:26:39] uh so he takes the black light out of the fish tank and holds it up so it illuminates all the whole room

[00:26:43] and you see that Esther has painted like UV paint or whatever so it only shows under black light

[00:26:48] like these like pornographic paintings of of Vera from Igor and Peter Sarsgard because she's

[00:26:52] she's seen them having sex you know yeah and and the violent demonic imagery and all this you know

[00:26:58] it's your real killer stuff Eric sure um so that's in the first one and then in orphan first kill

[00:27:03] the family that she returns to the dad is a famous painter famous for painting in black light

[00:27:09] paint and it's so funny to be like well we have to explain why she knows about that

[00:27:13] so great but we can't leave that stone unturned you know yeah we got to really got to make sure

[00:27:21] everybody knows yeah um but it's a cool aesthetic thing you don't have like scary violent black light

[00:27:27] paintings I guess you know there you go all right so orphan in orphan first kill uh Mike

[00:27:31] Deidges watched those recently i want to give a shout out to a tv show uh who's new season just dropped

[00:27:36] on Netflix this used to be a peacock show uh now it's on Netflix and it's girls five ever which

[00:27:41] I believe i've talked about in this podcast before uh it sounds very familiar our friend Vin Craig

[00:27:46] was in the season one finale of this show that's right and i've been a huge fan of this show from day

[00:27:51] one uh this is a uh show that started out on peacock was produced by Tina Fey created by Meredith

[00:27:56] Sardino who worked with Tina Fey on Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and is very much just like yeah this

[00:28:01] is the next show in that kind of mold life 30 rock like Kimmy Schmidt like uh great news another

[00:28:07] great show that was canceled too soon but uh yeah it's just it's rapid fire jokes it's about a uh

[00:28:13] girl group from the 90s who had like what kind of one big hit and then broke up and then 20 years later

[00:28:19] they've all kind of kind of gone on different directions in life you know one of them's like a stay

[00:28:22] at home mom one of them's like an influencer uh one of them's a dentist now and they all they

[00:28:28] get sampled this like in the first episode of the first season they get like sampled like their

[00:28:32] song gets sampled in like a famous rapper's uh song they get invited to perform it and then they

[00:28:36] start kind of chasing their dream of like reuniting and becoming their like chasing fame again uh

[00:28:41] and so season three uh picks up with them on tour like kind of promoting their new album

[00:28:46] and it's cerebralis renailie skulls berry polypelle and busy phillips and this show is so good it's

[00:28:52] so funny and it's a shame that people aren't watching it it's i think they aren't on the

[00:28:58] neflix season i think a lot of people i've heard more about it this season than i've ever heard

[00:29:02] before besides been you know right besides being on it i hope that's the case i mean if he caught

[00:29:08] canceled after two seasons and neflix saved it they picked it up uh and so this new seasons only

[00:29:12] six episodes uh which is a little bit of a bummer uh because the other seasons were eight which is

[00:29:17] also like uh there should be more episodes they should bring back the 22 episode tv series

[00:29:22] sure i mean it's good for people like writers and and this the the crew and their actors and

[00:29:28] everything but uh i can't possibly be asked to watch 22 episodes of anything but it used to be like

[00:29:34] you know if you i was just watching an episode of 30 rock earlier today which is like oh yeah

[00:29:38] this show was like you know as as good as sitcoms ever got you know it was like one of those like great

[00:29:43] TV sitcoms that had 22 episodes seasons girls five ever at eight eight and six has now reached

[00:29:50] 22 episodes over the course of like four years right yeah it's true you know and it's just one

[00:29:56] of those things we're like it used to be expected that like you had a great show and it just kept

[00:29:59] going and there you can do 22 episodes in a single year that was a thing and so there's

[00:30:04] there's less girls five ever to enjoy them 30 rock uh which is unfortunate but i hope uh that

[00:30:09] Netflix picks it up for season four it does kind of end on the cliffhanger but it like on a plot

[00:30:14] cliffhanger emotionally it feels like it's all wrapped up right but like it could go on further

[00:30:18] from where it is but yeah the show is so funny it's so good and uh you check it out Mike it's

[00:30:22] it's a great like satire the music industry and just pop culture in general and all that stuff

[00:30:26] is all of it on Netflix now it is all on Netflix yeah okay uh and that's also the weird thing i've

[00:30:31] thought that they would like you know premiere the first two seasons first like on Netflix and being

[00:30:36] like recently added these two seasons of the show yeah and then and then have the new season come out

[00:30:42] like a few months later or something to like kind of build buzz for it on Netflix uh and instead they

[00:30:46] all they just put them all out at once um so seasons like all three seasons are on Netflix now uh which

[00:30:51] you know great i'm glad it's all there but at the same time i feel like there was no like i don't know

[00:30:55] there's no build up there's no buzz to it i know a lot of people who have watched the show like

[00:30:59] watched it on peacock but like had no idea it like it was coming out on Netflix uh so yeah people should

[00:31:04] watch it it's great it's on Netflix now i've watched the whole season and it's terrific so girls

[00:31:08] five ever it's out right now also want to give a shoutout to roadhouse not the new one the old one

[00:31:14] uh yeah so uh the new roadhouse came out this weekend uh which is directed by Doug Laman and

[00:31:19] starring Jake Chillinghall and lead role i do want to watch that at some point uh but the thing is

[00:31:24] i had never seen the original roadhouse it just never never happened to me it was a family guy gag

[00:31:29] uh for many many years are you do you remember that family guy joke?

[00:31:32] not off the top of my head but probably okay it's uh it's uh it was like a running gag on a

[00:31:36] family guy like across multiple episodes uh we're like it's an episode where like Peter like

[00:31:41] rents roadhouse and then like it becomes obsessed with kicking everything okay and so every time

[00:31:45] he does he would say he looked at the camera and say roadhouse uh and it was just like a dumb thing

[00:31:50] that my friends and i would say all the time but like i had never seen roadhouse and so i finally watched

[00:31:55] roadhouse from 1989 starring Patrick Swazie and Sam Elliott uh really fun good action movie uh

[00:32:01] a good time have you seen roadhouse mc? i have not never got around to it um yeah there's a couple

[00:32:05] times i think it's just the uh like you know watch scanning past it or whatever my mom being there

[00:32:12] and be like awesome movie was so dumb and like okay well i guess we'll keep going then uh

[00:32:15] yeah i just so i just like never had it interested in like watch a kid or whatever so i have no idea

[00:32:20] but i know it's like a beloved cult classic that a lot of people say rocks uh yeah it's uh it's fun

[00:32:25] it's not i mean it is dumb but it's like not great i don't think but it's a really good time uh and

[00:32:30] i think it is just like oh man Patrick Swazie action star mode like he's killing in this movie

[00:32:35] and more than anything when sam Elliott walks on screen he's so cool in this movie

[00:32:40] it's insane sam Elliott the hottest he's ever been in roadhouse it's wild i don't know you remember

[00:32:45] sam Elliott and toads from frogs from frogs was the name of that movie yeah uh yeah i do remember

[00:32:52] that and i got a like just walks in with the long hair he's got the fate like it's he's really cool

[00:32:57] yeah roadhouse it's a it's a pretty dumb movie about uh a Patrick Swazie plays like a bouncer and

[00:33:02] he's the best bouncer there ever was and he gets hired to uh kind of he gets hired to this like you

[00:33:08] know dive bar in a nowhere town to kind of change the bar up like change up the clientele and like make

[00:33:14] it into a more respectable place and in doing so he like causes consternation among the town

[00:33:19] there's this one guy who owns everything that he crosses paths with and like you know he's the bad

[00:33:23] and also there's like a hot doctor he falls in love with class and uh yeah it's just it's a good

[00:33:29] time some great action sequences a lot of Patrick's ways he kicking people a lot around house kicks

[00:33:34] uh which are fun uh and yeah had a really good time with roadhouse i think you dig it Mike

[00:33:38] probably like it if i watched it yeah yeah uh and then yeah i i do plan to watch the new one

[00:33:42] i watch this one because the new one came out i was like well i can't watch the remake until i've

[00:33:46] seen the original roadhouse but i i have heard the new one i've heard mixed things about the new one

[00:33:50] me too i've seen some people who are kind of into it and i've heard about the action sequences

[00:33:54] in the new one where apparently there's a lot of CGI involved but it's actually like i don't know

[00:33:58] like i've seen the behind-the-scenes stuff where it's like oh they're like just wailing on pillows

[00:34:02] like green screen pillows and like replacing that with heads yeah and it looks kind of cool uh but

[00:34:08] i don't know i gotta see the movie in action i guess i've also heard that Conor McGregor is like

[00:34:12] truly awful in it that's also what i heard yeah it like just like unbelievably bad in the movie so i

[00:34:17] i'm kind of curious about that performance too but anyway roadhouse the original salad stuff

[00:34:21] it's streaming i think both on amazon prime which is where the new roadhouse is streaming uh or

[00:34:26] it's also an hbomax you can watch it there which is where i watched it nice yeah just uh recently cancelled

[00:34:30] my prime actually because fuck that but i'm not gonna pay more for no ads so i just won't pay it all

[00:34:36] fuck you understood that makes sense but just sucks but oh well yeah as the way it is uh all right what

[00:34:43] else you got in your last mic just because you were talking about uh netflix tv shows you're

[00:34:47] reminded me i'll check in on um delicious and delicious in dungeon which is an anime i talked about

[00:34:53] a little while ago okay uh which is basically a like fantasy dnd kind of world where there's this

[00:35:00] dungeon if you there's this legend that whoever gets to the bottom of the dungeon first will be

[00:35:05] granted like named king of the dungeon like because it's like a it's like a city that appeared

[00:35:11] underground basically right and it's like this whole race and if you die there's like uh people that

[00:35:17] ferry your corpse back to the top level so people you can be your loved ones can pay to reanimate

[00:35:23] you and you can go again right it's like this whole thing yeah and it's real fun and it starts

[00:35:27] the first episode the main character sister is eaten by a dragon in the dungeon uh in her last

[00:35:32] act of desperation she teleports her party back to the top of the dungeon so they can survive

[00:35:37] and they realize if we get to the dragon before she's digested we can save her we can have a body

[00:35:43] to reanimate if she doesn't if she's gone she's gone and so that's the stakes and it's then it

[00:35:49] turns into this very silly cooking show thing where they're like we don't have enough time or money

[00:35:53] to buy supplies we'll have to eat the monsters in the dungeon as we go so there's this really like

[00:35:57] goofy romp through the dungeon and then every episode they fight a different monster and then it

[00:36:01] literally turns into a how do we cook this monster show it's like the animation style changes

[00:36:06] and it's very well if you chop this thing up and do it in place get fried this and blah blah blah

[00:36:11] does really fun and goofy and then I think it was like episode uh maybe eight or nine

[00:36:16] I forget it's a few episodes ago I don't even remember what number they're on because they are

[00:36:19] actually releasing these weekly on Netflix which is what that's okay cool nice it all the sudden

[00:36:23] Tate turned a hard took a hard pivot into very intense dark serious fantasy things so it's like

[00:36:29] nine episodes of like this kind of fun light-hearted cooking thing uh and then now it is like

[00:36:34] at a very intense life or death um like fantasy story uh so that's very fun and I'm excited for next

[00:36:40] week we're to finally see some you know uh repercussions because it was kind of like it ended on

[00:36:44] this moment we're like what's right what about this comfort show for me is gonna turn into a serious

[00:36:49] thing that the fuck um so that's been very fun so that's delicious in dungeon if you're

[00:36:55] interested in some new anime stuff on Netflix um and it's is releasing weekly which I know is a big

[00:37:00] Mike Smith thing I do love a good weekly release yeah that's how TV works yeah um so the other

[00:37:08] movies that I watched um is I just rewatched Oppenheimer this past weekend so their movie yeah

[00:37:13] we watched it with my parents we had here in New York um like a I don't know I forget how many inches

[00:37:18] of rain we got on Saturday it was like an entire day did not stop raining crazy intense downpour

[00:37:24] and uh me and my parents were like hey this movie's three hours long we could start it in the daytime

[00:37:29] now because it's dark because it's raining yes we don't have to wait till if you ever whatever

[00:37:34] and so they hadn't seen it yet so we rewatched it and that was a lot of fun and then well fun

[00:37:39] you know as fun as Oppenheimer could be I guess I mean it's a thrilling movie it really is it's

[00:37:43] edgy or seat man it's it's you pay for the whole seat but you only need the edge um yeah

[00:37:49] and then but while we were waiting to start that I was flipping around and I turned in turned on

[00:37:53] coming to America about 20 minutes into it on like showtime or something okay and I was like well

[00:37:58] here's my morning settle and yeah just I mean I think I had seen this before I don't know if

[00:38:05] I had ever seen the like unedited like not on TBS version you know what I mean one of those

[00:38:11] kind of movies and just fine what I want to delight what a great movie so it's fun

[00:38:16] edgy vervea so you wait all no coming to me I never saw the sequel which I heard was not good uh

[00:38:21] I saw the sequel uh it's okay it has its moments okay it's got Wesley Snipes which is fun

[00:38:28] that's fun yeah I think you know coming to America is a movie that I liked but never like loved

[00:38:33] and so coming to America it's okay it's but I think people who have like a stronger affection for

[00:38:38] coming to America were like man coming to America the set yes um you know it's funny actually

[00:38:44] the uh David Kramholz was on movies that made me in the past a couple months or whatever

[00:38:49] and he was telling some story and I don't remember what the whole how he got there but he is from

[00:38:54] Queens uh and him and his dad used to go to the movies all the time and I guess near whatever

[00:38:59] theater they used to go to there was like a Wendy's and uh they would go to the Wendy's and then go

[00:39:03] to the movies right that was like there sure that was their thing one weekend they go the they

[00:39:07] roll up and the Wendy's is is is taste is like caution there's like caution tape and barricades

[00:39:12] and they're like they can't they can't get down that street and they look up and instead of saying

[00:39:16] Wendy's it says McDowell's uh and it's the building they use to film coming to their film

[00:39:21] coming to America uh and he said he was like 14 or whatever while they were doing that um so

[00:39:26] it's funny that I watched coming to America and then Oppenheimer on the same day right

[00:39:30] I did a Kramholz backstory double feature just nothing but double features

[00:39:35] nothing but double features yeah um and that's all the stuff that I watched okay nice coming to

[00:39:41] America good movie people check it out check it out yeah yeah Oppenheimer check it out yeah

[00:39:44] Oppenheimer good too all right I got a couple more things to throw in there I'm actually

[00:39:47] going to toss in one extra thing too technically two extra things a couple of new Marvel TV

[00:39:51] shows that have happened on these 25 things it's 25 things I picked 25 but I I do want to give a

[00:39:56] shout out to you because I think the show was overlooked uh echo oh yeah which uh you know this

[00:40:01] was a a Marvel TV show I've watched four out of the five episodes so far there's five episodes

[00:40:06] of echo and this is a it's a it's a spin off sort of of the Hawkeye TV show because echo was

[00:40:12] a character in Hawkeye and this one kind of picks up a little bit later but it involves Vincent

[00:40:16] D'Anafriro as kingpin pretty heavily in the show also Charlie Cox as Daredevil made an appearance

[00:40:20] in the first episode for a really cool fight scene and I think he might be in the finale as well

[00:40:25] I'm not totally sure of that on that but I feel like this show kind of got buried a little bit it was

[00:40:29] released like the first weekend of January it was released all at once which most of these Marvel

[00:40:33] shows have not been they've mostly been weekly to try to build buzz and all that kind of stuff and uh

[00:40:37] you know we've been like I've been pretty hit or miss with a lot of the Marvel stuff lately I know

[00:40:40] you've been mostly miss uh I think the show is pretty solid it's it's uh you know every episode is

[00:40:45] like 40 minutes it like never outstages welcome uh almost every episode has like at least one

[00:40:50] really cool action scene there's a fight scene in episode three that's set in a roller rink uh

[00:40:57] that has Dracula by Rob Zombie playing hell yeah I mean it rules really into it and yeah I think

[00:41:05] this supporting cast is pretty fun and I don't know I've had a pretty good time with the show I

[00:41:08] still haven't watched the finale yet but it's a good time so I wanted to give a shout out to that

[00:41:11] and also uh this just premiered last week but X-Men 97 premiered which is a continuation of X-Men

[00:41:18] the animated series the animated X-Men show from when we were kids from the 90s uh and it picks up

[00:41:23] like right where that show left off uh so if you don't remember what happened on the show you know

[00:41:26] I think the show does a pretty good job which kind of like getting you acclimated to it like I

[00:41:30] don't remember what happened an X-Men like the animated show it was no I haven't watched this since I was 10

[00:41:35] you know yeah but I watched the first episode of X-Men 97 and had a pretty good time with it

[00:41:39] it's solid I'm not sure if I'll watch the rest uh but I kind of wanted to just sample it

[00:41:43] and also hear that theme song one more time because that theme song is pretty sick it's very good

[00:41:47] yeah I remember um actually back to echo for a hot second I remember yeah being in the car or

[00:41:53] something and hearing a radio commercial for echo like a trailer uh yeah and thinking how funny it is

[00:41:58] that they did that because echo doesn't talk so it's just things and I'm not for you talking

[00:42:04] like wait a second um anyway uh so that's weird yeah but um yeah I saw a lot of a lot of people

[00:42:11] being very excited for X-Men 97 and then having you know it's like the the correct way to do

[00:42:16] nostalgia or whatever that means uh yeah seems neat I guess yeah no it was it was pretty good

[00:42:20] from what I saw and uh yeah I think I actually watched like half of the second episode too

[00:42:25] because the first two episodes came out um but it was one of those things were like you know my

[00:42:29] girlfriend called me and I had the answer and then like I was uh I got distracted doing other

[00:42:32] things and then I think I tried to pick it up again and then something else happens I'm watching

[00:42:35] episode two which is like 22 minutes in like seven minute chunks uh just like there was commercials

[00:42:41] yeah exactly just like there was commercials exactly uh so yeah echo and X-Men 97 both uh

[00:42:46] two new-ish Marvel TV shows which uh this year is going to be a kind of quiet year for Marvel

[00:42:51] in terms of them putting out stuff other than the Sony Marvel movies which I still haven't seen

[00:42:56] Madam Webb me I haven't seen Madam Webb yet you mr. C's everything you haven't gone I I don't think

[00:43:02] I'm able to anymore I think it's out of the I think it's gone now I think but it's coming

[00:43:05] to VOD soon I think pretty soon I would imagine it's going to come in pretty soon and I will watch it

[00:43:09] but that is one that like man even no matter how bad I knew it was going to be I would have

[00:43:15] I a couple of years ago I would have moved mountains to make sure that I was there

[00:43:18] to see Madam Webb probably in the opening week and yeah I just don't have the uh don't have the

[00:43:22] energy for that anymore yeah I've heard bad things but anyway a couple other movies I want

[00:43:27] to talk about as well uh one of which might do you've watched I believe recommended before

[00:43:31] that is Thanksgiving yes uh quick update I think Madam Webb is already available in VOD

[00:43:36] is it really or is it available like actual just streaming or do I have to like rent oh it might be

[00:43:41] rent I don't know okay uh I think that might be the thing I'm waiting for it to just pop up on

[00:43:46] Netflix or something yeah exactly uh reasonable yes thanks giving though I did recommend it I just

[00:43:52] watched it a few weeks ago on uh Netflix because it just hit Netflix recently yes it did uh and

[00:43:57] that's where I watched it as well and yeah this is a movie that I wanted to see when it came out uh

[00:44:01] and just didn't get the chance to like it was it came out and there's like 10 other movies

[00:44:05] playing at the same time that I had to pray over it as over Thanksgiving but this is the new movie

[00:44:10] Eli Roth it is an adaptation of the uh fake Thanksgiving trailer from Grindhouse uh back in 2007

[00:44:18] which makes this the third Grindhouse trailer to get adapted into a movie which is a pretty good

[00:44:22] batting average for those fake trailers that's crazy uh yeah machete and hope over the shotgun

[00:44:27] of course with the other two but yeah Thanksgiving is now a full length movie and uh

[00:44:32] Eli Roth not a filmmaker I'm like always into uh but I think Thanksgiving rocks it's really fun

[00:44:38] yes great time with Thanksgiving uh and I think what I like so much about it is it is just like

[00:44:42] straight up it's a slasher movie it's doing its thing and I feel like we don't get you know if

[00:44:47] there's slasher movies today it's usually like oh slasher movies with a twist or like a

[00:44:51] metatextual element to it and this one is just like no this is just a straight slasher movie

[00:44:55] it happens to take place at Thanksgiving and it goes all in uh I think the first 20 minutes or so uh

[00:45:01] that depicts like the black friday riot in the store yeah so fun and so crazy and

[00:45:07] inventive and weird and uh yeah I just really really dug it uh so yeah Thanksgiving it's good

[00:45:12] good stuff good stuff Patrick's amc i'm gonna go Patrick Dempsey yeah and Gina Gershon

[00:45:17] popping up for a little bit too let's see so yeah Thanksgiving well worth checking out

[00:45:21] also wanted to mention another Netflix movie uh well thanksgiving is not a Netflix movie but it's

[00:45:25] on Netflix this one is a Netflix original which came out last year and I ended up watching this

[00:45:29] last week uh you are so not invited to my butt mitzvah uh which is a coming of age movie uh starring

[00:45:35] Adam Sandler and his daughters uh it's uh but Adam Sandler plays the dad and he's a supporting role

[00:45:42] it's really about like his daughter and like she's getting it getting into her bot mitzvah like

[00:45:46] leading up to that uh and she has a falling out with her friend over a boy and uh the two start

[00:45:51] to like destroy each other's lives as a result uh and it's pretty fun pretty charming I had a

[00:45:55] good time good time with it it's not great I don't think but uh it's okay enough I had a pleasant

[00:46:00] time watching it and isn't that what you want out of a Netflix original sometimes that's all

[00:46:04] you can ask for uh and Adam Sandler is great and like he's he's really fun uh doing that kind of

[00:46:09] role uh and also Sarah Sherman's in it's uh which was fun to see uh and I think I want to say Richard

[00:46:15] kind maybe Richard kind was in it oh no Louise Guizmama's in it that's one thing okay all right

[00:46:20] Richard kind was on girls five ever though this season which was really great uh playing himself

[00:46:24] as the guy who's in everything uh amazing yeah pretty good uh actually what was really funny about

[00:46:29] that is that earlier in the day um my girlfriend uh was flipping through cable and turned on inside out

[00:46:34] uh and it was the scene where BingBong was dying and I was like oh Richard kind and she's like what

[00:46:40] who is like over to kind voices BingBong and then later in girls five ever we watched the finale

[00:46:44] later that day Richard kind shows up and Sarah braille's like oh you're BingBong

[00:46:51] you can have a writer uh I can have a writer on girls

[00:46:54] haha amazing uh but there you go so you are so not invited time my about mitzvah a pretty solid coming

[00:47:00] of age story uh and then finally one last thing I wanted to talk about uh and I'll probably go more

[00:47:05] into these movies next week because next week uh we're talking about Star Trek first context yes

[00:47:10] so uh somebody David uh made us uh paid us fifty dollars or our coffee page which by the way

[00:47:16] anyone can do yeah kofi.com slash mic and mic pods we double dog dare you to go donate 50

[00:47:21] dollars and pick a movie for us to watch yeah exactly you donate 50 dollars will review anything

[00:47:25] you want or even the you know talk about whatever like we can have an idea for let's rank we'll do

[00:47:29] a let's rank do whatever you know uh but fifty bucks will review a movie he chose to make us watch

[00:47:34] Star Trek first contact uh which kind of helps me get my Star Trek into overdrive because uh

[00:47:41] somebody else you mean hyperdrive hyperdrive yes thank you but

[00:47:44] haha last year uh we don't know what it's called on Star Trek now I'm afraid that that's not

[00:47:50] what it's called what is it I think warp drive warp drive fuck there you

[00:47:55] anyway the nerds are gonna be coming at you for that one but yeah last year we had someone pay

[00:48:00] to make us watch Star Trek to the wrath of con uh and I had not seen any of the Star Trek movies

[00:48:04] outside of the JJ Abrams trilogy right I'm not seeing outside of those so back then I watched

[00:48:10] Star Trek one the motion picture which rules and then I watched wrath of con and also search for

[00:48:15] spark and the voyage home and my plan was to continue watching because I actually had the original

[00:48:19] series blue race set of those six movies and then I just kind of fell off of it I never got around

[00:48:24] to watching five six and seven and so because of this first contact fifty dollars I have now had

[00:48:30] the opportunity to kind of like okay I got to catch up my Star Trek movies for full context before

[00:48:35] first contact comes comes around uh so over the last week I watched Star Trek five the final

[00:48:40] frontier Star Trek six the undiscovered country and Star Trek generations and I will brief thoughts

[00:48:46] on all of them Star Trek five the final frontier is the one directed by William Shatner and it's

[00:48:51] you know it has a reputation of being a bad one and it's definitely not a good one uh I think

[00:48:57] there is still elements of it that I liked a lot though okay it's it's still fun and I think I

[00:49:00] had enough to I at that point I'm like pretty invested in the original series cast so I'm like all right

[00:49:06] yeah fine Star Trek five whatever uh there's moments that I liked it but it is overall like the

[00:49:11] weakest of those first six movies but then Star Trek six the undiscovered country man Crown Jewel

[00:49:17] the franchise wow it's so so good uh perhaps only outclass by Star Trek one the motion picture

[00:49:25] I think said but is no one ever is ever said that but Star Trek six brings back Nicholas

[00:49:32] Meyer who director breath of con so he directed this one and it's a it's a closing out of the

[00:49:38] original cast it's meant to be like their final big send off uh and it is so cool and fun and

[00:49:44] the actions great uh and uh it's basically the idea of it is that the Klingons are like trying to

[00:49:51] approach that they're trying to become a peaceful people they're trying to approach Earth and like

[00:49:55] kind of join the Federation and all that stuff but of course William Shatner doesn't trust them

[00:49:59] you know Kirk Kirk doesn't trust the Klingons because the Klingons killed his son back in Star Trek

[00:50:03] three we all remember and uh and so the Klingons arrive on board and like the Starship Enterprise is

[00:50:10] like tasked with escorting them back to Earth uh but while they're on board uh the leader of the Klingons

[00:50:17] is killed and the Enterprise is framed for being the ones that's killed him my god and so Kirk and

[00:50:24] McCoy go on trial and like a Klingon trial by the way Christopher Plummer is in this movie he plays

[00:50:29] a Klingon with an eye patch and he's quoting Shakespeare the entire time it's the best thing that's ever

[00:50:34] out that sounds incredible and yeah and so they go to trial on the the actual Klingon trial is like

[00:50:40] some of the most thrilling stuff that's happened in any Star Trek movies uh and like while all that's

[00:50:45] going on spock in the rest of the crew are trying to figure out how to break Kirk McCoy out of jail while

[00:50:49] they're also trying to figure out who actually killed the leader of the Klingons and it's so so good

[00:50:54] really fun uh highly recommend Star Trek six uh and uh what was a fun discovery for me is that

[00:51:00] Avengers Endgame lifted its like signatures at the end you know that the whole like in the end

[00:51:06] credits of Avengers Endgame like the main Avengers like I'll sign their names uh like to be like

[00:51:10] okay we're signing off with the franchise or whatever Star Trek six does that uh

[00:51:14] those fast they lifted it from Star Trek six uh which was kind of a fun discovery

[00:51:19] and the yeah Star Trek six rules and then I watch Star Trek generations and so this was the first

[00:51:23] next generation cast movie and I I will say I have much less familiarity with the next generation

[00:51:28] than I do original series uh just in general but I know it enough to be like yeah that's Picard

[00:51:33] that's you wharf you know all know that like I got it and man generations blows it's uh it's

[00:51:40] it's the worst of the movies I've watched so far oh no but it starts off pretty good it starts

[00:51:44] off with a scene with Kirk and uh Scotty and check off and Kirk's like um seeing off the Enterprise

[00:51:50] it's like sort of a PR stunt where like the the Enterprise like has a new crew a new commander who is

[00:51:56] Alan Ruck uh which is fun what uh that rules and he's like you know kind of a green new captain to

[00:52:03] the Enterprise and then like this you know weird kind of time wiggly wiggly time thing happens

[00:52:09] and it's clear that like Kirk has to take command again uh but in doing so he appears to die

[00:52:14] and then and then he cut to 73 years later and the next generation crew is just like they're the crew

[00:52:19] now and that's yeah that's them and so they get involved in sort of other time wiggly wavly nonsense

[00:52:25] and then Kirk shows up uh and then Kirk actually does die at the end of the movie and it's one of those

[00:52:29] things which like man Kirk had the perfect ending in Star Trek 6 and they just had to bring him back

[00:52:33] for this one last one but I think at the time it was like oh the uh the you got a transition from

[00:52:39] the old cast to the new because I think at that point next generation had just ended as a TV show

[00:52:43] okay and so they were like okay now we got it like the old cast is getting pretty old

[00:52:47] and we need we need to transition to the new cast uh and so they did but yeah generations

[00:52:52] doesn't really work which is unfortunate but I have hope for first contact because I have heard

[00:52:56] many good things and of the next generation movies it seems like the one that people like yeah

[00:53:01] I mean I mean it's been a while since I've seen it and I'm gonna talk about it next week uh but

[00:53:05] um now I'm scared because I've never seen generations and uh but but isn't Star Trek is the one

[00:53:10] where the franchise broadly where it's like oh the odd the even number ones are good and the

[00:53:14] odd ones are bad kind of thing that was the consensus for a long time yeah although the the thing is

[00:53:19] Star Trek the most pictures the best ones that flies in the face of that uh oh

[00:53:24] thing um yeah that that is the thing I mean a lot of fans don't like Star Trek one uh so there's

[00:53:29] that I think it was kind of the thing all the odd number ones are bad except for search for spot

[00:53:34] which is just like okay or something that was third one but like five and seven definitely they

[00:53:38] they they what were am I looking for five and seven they definitely like add to that argument you

[00:53:44] know they're fair yeah they back that one up uh but I don't know one's great and three is pretty good

[00:53:50] I got another it's Star Trek a baseline like I didn't I didn't hate generations if it was just

[00:53:54] one of those things there's like man what could have been like uh you know there's stuff there

[00:53:58] that I liked I liked data that data was pretty cool data is great data data was neat and uh

[00:54:03] there he has a whole arc in generations where like he gets like some kind of chip that like

[00:54:06] let's him feel human emotions and that was kind of a fun thing to like sit to see him get used to

[00:54:11] that right also he has a cat and that's fun love that for him yeah but we'll talk more next

[00:54:18] week about it um very exactly yes uh yeah well we're gonna dive deep into Star Trek next week

[00:54:23] and all the Star Trek movies right now are streaming on HBO Max so there is that so that was

[00:54:28] lucky for me because I have the the original six on Blu-ray but I didn't have any of the next generation

[00:54:32] ones and I was like oh man I gotta try to get Paramount Plus to work again no they they licensed it

[00:54:38] out to HBO Max I can just watch it there easy uh so there's that but all right I think that

[00:54:43] wraps things up for this week right Mike I think that's everything once again we've talked about

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[00:55:47] paid movie coming up or are we talking about one of the dragon balls e movies uh in the weeks to come

[00:55:52] and tribute to a curatorial ma yes yeah we got so we get to pick forget what to the person

[00:55:57] suggested we pick i believe the choices were dragon ball z battle of the gods or dragon ball super

[00:56:02] superhero yes which i have not seen either of them and i'm still uh you know i'm doing my dragon

[00:56:08] ball z watch uh which uh you know i i was a better start watching yeah so i don't i don't know i'm

[00:56:15] here i i kind of want to pick superhero uh because i've heard it's really good and that's the

[00:56:19] most recent one okay but dragon ball z battle of the gods feels like one where i will like i'll

[00:56:24] know the story anyway like no matter what going into it yeah so i don't know we'll see what happens

[00:56:28] i i i think i'm the one making that call yes we'll be up to you fair enough all right so uh thank

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